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Don Rosa
From: Teme
>>>But I have a question: if I remember correctly your stories usually take
place around 50 ties, 60 ties or something like this, right? So why did
you leave in what look like cell phone relay masts to the panel 1 on
page 25 (the one where Iku-Turso & Louhi find themselves in front of the
Helsinki central station

I knew very well that there were buildings on that side of that panel that
did not exist in the mid-50s when that story (and all my stories) takes
place. All of those Helsinki panels were traced overactual photos taken
from various angles from Helsinki street corners that I specifically
described to a friend. It was impossible for me to have photos taken of
those precise views in 1955, so I had to settle for 1999. Actually, I
originally was careful to include only buildings that existed in 1955...
the train station, the Old Student Building, Stockmann's, the Cathedral,
etc. But when I looked at the Train Station shot where I would insert
Iku-Turso who is supposed to look very perplexed and small when surrounded
by a huge, modern city, it did not look right because there were no
buildings on the left side of the photo, resulting in him looking very
UNcrowded. So I had the photographer shift the angle further to the left to
catch the buildings there. These buildings were obviously newer, but I
could not know what was there 45 years ago, so I went with it. However, I
figured those towers were radio towers, which they are, but not cel phone
radio towers. Surely the buildings looked more outta-place than the radio
towers.
Georgios Balanikas
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I also disagree with Don's remark that none is "gifted " with a =
talent. Of course the high art studies, the very long and hard practice =
can make someone an acceptable artist. But can we imagine if anyone has =
also the natural gift of the combination of inspiring and drawing easier =
than others? I think is like a polishing and shaping of a beautiful raw =
diamond.
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I am sending to all my fellow members and friends of the list my =
Warmest Wishes for a Happy Holiday Season, a very Happy New Year and an =
excited New Millennium (even false).

Georgios
Michael Naiman
My individual (and crude) census on Uncle Scrooge #179 uncovered 12
copies......worldwide.
Now I know this is very unscientific....but, perhaps everyone who has a
copy does not read the ML!
Happy Holidays to One and All!

Michael
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Dear listmembers!

Finally I'm delurking, and will try to become a bit more
active again. I bet you've missed me :) No? Oh, well...

For the last four years or so, most of my spare time have
been used on old ships, restoring them, sailing them, and
writing about/documenting them. At the moment I'm mostly
involved with three preserved ships; a 108 foot coal fired
passenger steamer built in 1908, a 90 foot coal fired sea
going tug built in 1910 and a 144 foot diesel powered mine
sweeper built in 1954. The mine sweeper and the passenger
ship are both active, and the tug will sail in about two
years.

There's a lot of fun and great experiences in this. Last
summer, for instance, we joined a steam ship meeting in
Flensburg with the passenger steamer, and had a race with
six other preserved ships. And last year we had a fantastic
trip with her along the Norwegian coast, from Oslo to Lofoten
in Northern Norway.

Anyway, this will not change, but I'll try to make some time
for Disney comics as well. I do of course still buy my daily,
er, weekly Duck magazine.

A few years ago I sent reviews of the Norwegian weekly to the
list from time to time. I've now written reviews of the last
six issues, which I'll now send. They are a bit long, so I'll
send them twice a day... er... two a day, I mean.

If anyone's insterested, I might continue. I won't promise
that they'll be very regular, but I might try.

And, oh yes, they'll be _loaded_ with spoilers, of course.

BTW, it's nice to see that so many of the "old" ones are still
on the list, and I'm very glad to see that there's also so
many new regular contributors. This is indeed a great list.

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co # 46 1999

There's a Dutch front cover on this one, of which we've had many during
the last year. A good thing, I think, since I usually like them better
than Egmont's. For some reason they have stopped putting the picture code
on the cover, so it's sometimes a bit difficult to be certain of the origin,
though. On this one, the tree ducklings are each holding a musical
instrument - a trumpet, a saxophone and a violin. The latter is obviously
troubling the conductor, Donald, a bit, since he's oiling it.

During the last few weeks, two mysterious stones have puzzled Norwegian -
and presumably some other - Duck readers. The stones, which appear in
both Duck and Mouse stories, are spherical, and have strange abilities.
All the stories are written by Pat and Carol McGreal.

And here it is, the first story with one of these mysterious stones,
written by Pat and Carol McGreal (D 99007, 12 pages), and drawn by Vicar.

The first part of the story is pretty standard, with Magica de Spell going
by magic to Duckburg, without these two detectives noticing anything.
Scrooge himself is on the other side of the globe, in some business, and
Donald is watching the money bin. Magica is of course fooling Donald, but
Scrooge gets a feeling that something is wrong, and heads home. After some
problems they all end up at Vesuvio - Magica's volcanoe - where the first
coin is to be melted. And now mysterious things are beginning to happen.
Donald falls into the volcanoe, and Scrooge runs to his rescue, giving
Magica time to lower the coin into the molten lava. Rather strange
behaviour for the old McDuck... But he's in luck, since Magica pays more
attention to what they are doing than to the coin. And now Donald discovers
this stone, stuck near the top of the crater. It suddenly comes loose,
flies away, hits Magica in the head, and flies back to Donald. Scrooge
runs after the coin, which Magica has lost. Magica is followed back to
her house by the detectives, and everything is back to normal again.

Not really a story I would have remembered for long, if this stone hadn't
reappeared a few times.

Story number two is an old one-pager (KF 09-18-49).

And, ah, here's something. Story number three is written and drawn by
Noel van Horn (D 98381, 10 pages). It is, as you might have guessed, a
Mickey story.

It seems that everyone in Duckburg (yes, Duckburg and Mousetown is one
thing in Norway) are checking whatever anyone else is doing, using
binoculars, video cameras etc. Mickey gets very tired of this, while Goofy
doesn't really seems to understand what's going on. No surprise there...
Then they meet an astronomer who's just finishing a new, enormous
telescope - which is for studying the space, not the neighboors. While
looking at some distant planet, they discover aliens looking at Earth.
Immediately after the discovery, Mickey and Goofy are transfered to the
distant planet, and are being studied by the aliens. Soon after the latter
looses interest in the earthlings, and our friends start to walk around.
They meet lots of other aliens that have been transfered there, and all
of them look at Mickey and Goofy all the time.
They then find out that by reversing the machine that got them there,
they can get back. But first they'll give the aliens a lesson. Mickey
finds some really monstrous creatures which he gets there, to cure the
aliens from their curiosity.
When they return, Mickey is annoyed by the fact that the astronomer has
been looking at them all the time in his telescope. He and Goofy then
walks into a forest, to rest under the trees, alone. They don't notice
that two of the trees are aliens who's there to study them.

Not really such a memorable story, although there's some good gags here.
The art is splendid, though. I especially like van Horn's Goofy. And some
of the aliens are really hillarious.

Number four is a one page Gyro Gearloose story (D 98308) written by
Lars Jensen, and drawn by Alferez.

Gyro has invented a walking tennis racket which he's playing against. The
robot is too good for him.

Number five is a Dutch Donald Duck story (H 94167, 10 pages), written by
Frank Jonker, and drawn by Mau Heymans.

Heymans is one of my favourite artists, and he's done a very good job on
this one. Donald is exhausted from his job in a lamp factory, and he sees
lamps everywhere. Even old 313 looks like a lamp in his eyes. He decides -
or rather his doctor does - to go on a vacation on a place where he can
really cool down. The place seems to be pretty close to Antarctica. They
rent a plane, and Donald is put down alone on a floating piece of ice. On
the way down there they spot a whale catcher going southward.
Donald's ice floe breaks up, and some time later he's rescued by the whale
catcher - which seems to be hunting sperm whales. This upsets Donald, but
he's even more upset when he's told that the crew were disguised as lamp
sellers to get safely to the ship. He fires the harpoon gun through the
bottom of the ship, which then sinks.
The plane with the doctor and the nephews onboard starts looking for
Donald, and when they find the catcher's crew in a life boat, they think
he's drowned. But then they find him, being used as a toy by some whales.

The story isn't so very interesting really, but the art does a very good
job in saving it. Heymans obviously doesn't know what a whale catcher
looks like, though. And I do think it would have been pretty easy for
someone in the Netherlands to find that out, since that nation was very
active in pelagic whale catching in the sixties (together with Norway,
UK, USSR and Japan - and of course the Greek pirate fleet).

Next is an old Mickey one-pager (KF 10-06-46)

And number seven is a Donald Duck story (D 97368, 6 pages), written by
Pat and Shelly Block, and drawn by Guirado. Guirado? Must be a new one.

Donald's nephews are delivering newspapers every morning, and they are
doing it very well, putting all their pride into the job. Then one
afternoon, they all come home with a cold. Donald offers to deliver the
newspapers the next day, to which the nephews protest heavily. They have
to give up, though, and beg Donald to do a good job.
Donald has a few, in his own opinion, quite revolutionizing ideas - which
don't exactly have the expected results... The nephews are crushed, since
they now believe they'll lose all their customers. But it shows up that
they're wrong. All Donald's accidents make big headlines, and more people
end up buying the newspaper.
Not much new in this story really, although the end is a bit surprising,
but it is well done. The art is ok; standard Branca style.

The next story is the end part of a two part story. It's a Donald Duck
story (D 98352, totally 16 pages) written by Charlie Martin and drawn
by Santanach.

The Duckburg football (that's soccer for those of you on the other side
of the Atlantic) club has gone to some quite corrupt nation, to play a
game against the local club. Donald and his nephews are there to see the
game. The team is kidnapped by the president, so that the local club will
win, and Donald rescues them.

I don't know. Maybe football fans would find the story interesting. It
didn't give me much.

The issue ends with an old Mickey one-pager (KF 03-09-47)

In addition to the stories, there's one page with an index of the issue,
and also an old newspaper strip. This is a regular feature. There's one
page with jokes - also regular (I wonder if the same jokes are in the
Swedish issues, with Norwegian substituted for Swede...). Two pages with
funny things to do, and strange things from around the world (yes, also
regular). Two pages with puzzles, one page with instructions for a simple
airbrush set which came with the magazine, and one page with information
about next week's issue (regular). There's also five pages with
advertisements (all of them between the stories; they are never inside
them) - four of them for other Disney publications.

Now, isn't it time for you all to learn a Scandinavian language? :-)

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co # 47 1999

The front cover is a Dutch one. Donald is sitting on a wooden box on
the ice, with ice skates on his feets. He's bought a cup of hot
chocolate, which he has put down on the ice. He looks surprised at it -
and his nephews and the man who sold it are laughing at him - when the
cup is melting its way through the ice.

This issue opens with a story about the stone age girl Gneis (D 99017,
12 pages), this time written by Janet Gilbert, and drawn by Vicar. This
girl has appeared in a few stories now, all the other being - as far as
I remember - written by Stefan Printz-Påhlson.

In this story she's as usual in love with Donald - a feeling that is not
quite returned. Another person falls in love with Gneis, though - a
person from the future. He travels back in time, and then makes every
effort to make the girl become interested in him. Gneis is not a very
sophisticated girl, so giving her flowers is quite in vain. She eats
them. Another few attempts fail as well, but then, rather by mistake,
the man from the future does something that attracts her. And then
someone's girlfriend from the future appears. It all ends with a happy
couple travelling back to the future, and Donald being bothered with
Gneis again, as usual.

Story number two is a Dutch one (H 91121, 4 pages). This has been a
pattern for a while now, that there usually is one Dutch story in every
issue. This one is written by Ruud Straatman, and drawn by Jose Colomer
Fonts.

Donalds nephews are angry at him since he doesn't understand the kind of
music they like, and turns off the TV when a music program is starting.
They think he's too old to enjoy it. Gyro Gearloose comes by, and saves
them with giving them a chemical which makes people act like they're
younger than they are. The nephews spray Donald back to puberty, and he
starts to dance wildly around the living room. By accident he gets a lot
more of the chemical sprayed on him, and suddenly he's much more
interested in cartoons than pop music. But then, soon after, the cartoon
makes him scared. He's becoming younger and younger. Shortly after, he
loses the ability to talk, and is acting like a baby. The nephews are now
too old to see the same programs as their uncle. Gyro comes by again,
and tells them that this baby condition will only last for a week...

I liked this story. I only wonder about one thing; since Donald is looking
like his old himself, but acting like a baby, how would he have acted if
he'd gotten just a little more of the chemical - enough to bring him back
to the egg state?

Story number three is a one page Mickey story (D 98086), with a mystery
the reader is supposed to solve. No credits given. This kind of story
have also become a usual feature of the weekly Duck magazine. Earlier
they were mostly F-coded (French), but nowadays they all have D-codes
(Egmont).

Story number four is a Mickey Mouse story (D 99014, 10 pages) written by
Pat and Carol McGreal, and drawn by Ferioli. This is story number two
about the stones. The McGreal couple must be writing a lot, BTW. Their
stories seem to appear very often.

From the first picture (and especially that one) one is stricken by
Ferioli's beautiful art. It makes me want to frame it and hang it on the
wall - but that would of course make a strange gap in the magazine.

Mickey and Goofy are in a country called Nibet, to see a monk called
Damai Lali fly. This monk is a young child, and he has the ability to
empty his mind of all thoughts - obviously the requirement for a flying
career. Mickey finds this difficult to do, while Goofy... well, you know.
He floats in the air, telling that he doesn't believe it's possible to
fly.
Then enters The Phantom Blot. And this is the real one, not that
handkerchief from the eighties. He kidnaps the young monk, because he
wants to learn how to fly. Our two friends follow him into the mountains,
and with the help of Goofy's flying and a spherical stone Mickey finds
in the ice, they manage to save the kid.

The story is pretty good, but at first I didn't quite like that stone
suddenly appearing. It seemed like a too easy way out of a story, just
like that Donald Duck story in the last issue... er... something I'm not
getting here? A third stone story the next week did indeed tell me there
was more to these stones.

Number five is an old one-pager (KF 07-15-51).

Story number six is a Junior Woodchuck story (D 98093, 6 pages), written
by Paul Halas and Jack Sutter, and drawn by Millet.

In this story the Woodchucks have a trip in the forest with their parents,
and in HDL's case, Donald Duck. As usual this Duck brags about his
abilities to survive in the forest, which attracts some angry looks from
the other parents.
In good accordance to his personality, Donald starts on a short cut,
and... gets lost. He hurts himself on a bush, and hurts himself more when
trying to heal it with a poisonous plant. It starts to snow, and it all
looks rather bad. Then, for some reason, a truck appears, and it is pulled
up from whereever it was by another truck.

I don't think I've ever seen a story being ended in a simpler way. Here
we have four Ducks, cold, angry, hungry and lost. Then, standing in deep
snow is suddenly a truck there, and they can just let themselves being
saved by being pulled up by another truck. Er... something missing here?
Will I soon see another truck mysteriously appearing in a story about
Mickey's nephews? (none so far...)

Number seven is about Mad Madam Mim (D 98072, 2 pages), written by
Per Hedman, and drawn by Millet. Hedman is writing a _lot_ of stories.
Sometimes I like them, but usually I think they are too simple. There's
got to be a few stories of that kind, I guess, since a great part of the
market is young children. But still, I didn't like that kind of stories
myself when being a bit younger than I am now.

In this story Mim has the noble intention of helping a rather miserable
actor imitate a gorilla by doing some magic through a closed door. But by,
accidentally, actually making him a gorilla, she scares the producer a
little too much.

Number eight is another old one-pager (KF 01-21-51)

Number ten is a story about Scrooge McDuck and Goldstein Glomgold
(D 98285, 12 pages), written by Paul Halas, and drawn by Colomer.

Usually Scrooge doesn't care much about aristocracy, but when Glomgold
suddenly becomes a baron, and starts to frequent in circles that are
closed to McDuck, it becomes a bit too difficult to swallow that he
doesn't have any titles himself. More so when he thinks about all the
money belonging in those circles.
Scrooge starts to hunt for a title for himself, but the only possibility
he finds is an ancestor who once lost his title. The lord who now owns
it, whom Scrooge visits, seems to be as careful with his money as McDuck
himself. But then it shows up that he actually doesn't have any. He does
have one thing though - a permission from some king to sell titles. And
he has sold one recently, to Glomgold.
This makes Scrooge happy, since he believes that the real aristocrats
then won't take Glomgold's title seriously. He goes to a party for the
aristocracy, dressed as a servant, to observe what happens. And he finds
that he's actually wrong. The aristocrats are very interested in Glomgold,
since he's the only one at the party (except for Scrooge) who has any
money. They all attack him with demands that he should pay all their
expences so the aristocracy can keep up the appearance - to Scrooge's
great joy.

I like this story. Halas draws up the lines for several possible plots,
and not until just before the ending do we see what really happens. And
Colomer has done an excellent job with the art.

Number eleven, another old one-pager (KF 12-25-60), makes a nice ending
to the issue.

Also with this issue was the first part of this year's Christmas calendar.

Jorgen
Stefan Persson
>From: "Jørgen Andreas Bangor" <(Email removed)>
>
>Donald Duck & Co # 47 1999
>
>The front cover is a Dutch one. Donald is sitting on a wooden box on
>the ice, with ice skates on his feets. He's bought a cup of hot
>chocolate, which he has put down on the ice. He looks surprised at it -
>and his nephews and the man who sold it are laughing at him - when the
>cup is melting its way through the ice.

That seems to be the same as the one on the Dutch Donald Duck 2/99, the
Swedish Kalle Anka & C:O 47/99 and the Danish Anders And 47/99.
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Stefan Persson
>From: "Jørgen Andreas Bangor" <(Email removed)>
>
>Donald Duck & Co # 46 1999
>
>There's a Dutch front cover on this one, of which we've had many during
>the last year. A good thing, I think, since I usually like them better
>than Egmont's. For some reason they have stopped putting the picture code
>on the cover, so it's sometimes a bit difficult to be certain of the
>origin,
>though. On this one, the tree ducklings are each holding a musical
>instrument - a trumpet, a saxophone and a violin. The latter is obviously
>troubling the conductor, Donald, a bit, since he's oiling it.

Netherlands: Donald Duck 23/98
Sweden: Kalle Anka & C:O 46/99
Denmark: Anders And & C:O 46/99
BTW, have codes EVER been printed on the covers?
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Anders Christian Sivebaek
Welcome back Jorgen. I'm one of the newcomers even though i've been
here for a year and a half now.

> Donald Duck & Co # 46 1999

> There's a Dutch front cover on this one, of which we've had many
during
> the last year. A good thing, I think, since I usually like them
better
> than Egmont's. For some reason they have stopped putting the picture
code
> on the cover, so it's sometimes a bit difficult to be certain of the
origin,
> though. On this one, the tree ducklings are each holding a musical
> instrument - a trumpet, a saxophone and a violin. The latter is
obviously
> troubling the conductor, Donald, a bit, since he's oiling it.
This description hopefully rings a bell with our Barks-readers. It's a
redrawn WDC-cover,
but very nice indeed!

> During the last few weeks, two mysterious stones have puzzled
Norwegian -
> and presumably some other - Duck readers. The stones, which appear in

> both Duck and Mouse stories, are spherical, and have strange
abilities.
> All the stories are written by Pat and Carol McGreal.
and they change color from time to time... not intended but because of
the
newly discovered egmont-syndrome.
It makes the weekly be filled with miscollerings, patly wrong
informations about
Frogs, ads about books that aren't supposed to be published before 2
weeks after the ad... and no references of course... why is that,
anyway?
Don't the kids want to have them there? If that's the case I give up.
Oliv
PAOLO :
>I just read the last message from "wunderwurm", announcing his
>scans from the story "MM on a secret mission" by coincidence I
>just scanned the same story (as told few days ago), and I
>uploaded it on
>http://members.xoom.it/_XOOM/inducks/appo/MMscans/

Super nice !
Thanks a lot !
These stories are very good stories.
I can't understand why these jewels and many
others are not published again.
That shows the Disney's lack of imagination too.
The arts could be changed to be "correct" without
changing the story.
(but that won't be the same story :-(

>it is complete, but it is in Italian, taken from the weekly
>supplement to "Il Messaggero".... a very interesting publication,
>IMO.

Hey ! Wait a moment ! Is it a very old "Il Messagero" ?
Do you think it could be actually available ?

Oliv
Oliv
WUNDERWURM :
>I just wanted to inform that I have uploaded a first installment of scans
>(30 out of 84) of "Mickey Mouse on a Secret Mission" (7/19-10/23/43;
>Gottfredson/B. Walsh/D.Moores), ready for download at:

Good idea :-)
I asked it some days ago and you put it on line,
thank you very much.
I was so pleased to discover this fancy story - should i
say i'm always pleased to read a F.Gottfredson story.

Oliv

PS : Your name ?? fan of Dune or fan of tequila ?
Teme
Don wrote:

> I knew very well that there were buildings on that side of that panel that
> did not exist in the mid-50s when that story (and all my stories) takes
> place. -->snip.

Oops.. my mistake. I didn't think they could be radio towers. Sorry. As
for the new buildings in story of past I guessed most of your reasons
for using them. Just the towers struck me as strange. Thanks again for a
great story.
btw. you got my vote (much better choice than Uosukainen) :-)

Teme

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Da: oliv <(Email removed)>

> Hey ! Wait a moment ! Is it a very old "Il Messagero" ?
> Do you think it could be actually available ?

Ten years ago.. don't make me think about it.. when I moved 7 years ago... I
lost my *whole* collection of the Messaggero inserts... :-(

Sprea
Dannyjhorn
Thanks to the person who posted the letter from Bruce Hamilton. In America,
we're all waiting impatiently for the new Disney comics, and it's great to
get the news when we can -- even if it's inconclusive news like this letter.
If you hear anything else, please send it to the list! Thanks!

-- Danny
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
The more I learn (or should I say, DON'T learn) about the situation with
the comics not being published the more angry I get. I don't understand
why a big giant company like Disney feels the need to be *so* controlling
over every license agreement. I am already not the biggest fan of Disney
as a corporation and this obvious disregard for their historic past
irritates me to no end. Wasn't it Walt Disney himself who said that
without the *comic strip* department the studio would've gone under
during WWII? Disney chooses to ignore Gladstone's attempts at making
sure these classic items are available for future generations by only
seeing dollar signs. It seems to me that they have lost focus of their
history. I can't help but think that this isn't the way Walt wanted it,
and it really makes me sad. *sigh* If we ever do get comics here again,
I will never take it for granted.

~~~Rodney.

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