What a fucking e-mail did you send to me? sorry, I don´t understand
and I want to separate this lists. i don´t know how this used. Please, I
hope that you don´t send me any letters.
Best Wishes:
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Laura Pihlainen
Valitusta... perkeleen lista
Message 136 -
1999-12-08 at 15:03:04
Fluks, H.W.
valitusta... perkeleen lista
Message 137 -
1999-12-08 at 15:10:50
> What a fucking e-mail did you send to me? sorry, I don´t understand
> and I want to separate this lists. i don´t know how this
> used. Please, I
> hope that you don´t send me any letters.
Using words like "fucking" will only make that you'll get much more letters
than you want.
There *are* politer ways of saying things.
> and I want to separate this lists. i don´t know how this
> used. Please, I
> hope that you don´t send me any letters.
Using words like "fucking" will only make that you'll get much more letters
than you want.
There *are* politer ways of saying things.
Bhc
DCML digest, Vol 1 #12 - 19 msgs
Message 138 -
1999-12-08 at 20:11:47
It is now the effective one-year anniversary of the publication of the last
Gladstone Disney comics.
A year ago we expected a relatively short hiatus, a month or two, in the
publication of Disney comics in the US. Some of us here at Gladstone, by
dint of experience, were inclined to double our even triple that estimate,
but to have an entire *year* go by...
The reasons for the holdup will make fascinating reading for future law
students, I'm sure. For those of us who just want to get on with doing
comics, all we want to know is 1) will we? and 2) if so, how soon? That's
something not even the lawyers can tell us at this point.
But the negotiating process continues, and it is a great credit to Steve
Geppi and his people that they have stuck with it.
STEFAN DIOS:
You wrote:
>Finally, if some countries (like Denmark, as it seems) choose not to use
>the runometer at all, it's a pity for the Rosa fans and other mature
>readers in that country... but it has to be that publisher's decision.
>Maybe they think it would be too strained for the kids to read (and maybe
>they would be right, at that?!); maybe the translator doesn't feel he can
>handle the runometer well enough in his language (just as I'm not
>comfortable with all the details in some technical stories); maybe they
>haven't the time to do a proper job about it; maybe they can use some other
>tricks to lend a proper atmosphere to their dialog... or whatever their
>reasons may be. I always enjoy putting a little poetry or pseudo-poetry in
>the stories when needed, but I wouldn't expect every translator and
>publisher in the world to work in exactly the same way that I do. For
>better or for worse.
I like this paragraph. I like it so much I decided to make sure it appears
more than once on the mailing list. Hope you don't mind.
Gary
****************************
"I took the liberty of updating your resume. I'm guessing you'll need it
soon" - the world's smartest garbage man
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Gladstone *still* on the Web: http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone
Gladstone Disney comics.
A year ago we expected a relatively short hiatus, a month or two, in the
publication of Disney comics in the US. Some of us here at Gladstone, by
dint of experience, were inclined to double our even triple that estimate,
but to have an entire *year* go by...
The reasons for the holdup will make fascinating reading for future law
students, I'm sure. For those of us who just want to get on with doing
comics, all we want to know is 1) will we? and 2) if so, how soon? That's
something not even the lawyers can tell us at this point.
But the negotiating process continues, and it is a great credit to Steve
Geppi and his people that they have stuck with it.
STEFAN DIOS:
You wrote:
>Finally, if some countries (like Denmark, as it seems) choose not to use
>the runometer at all, it's a pity for the Rosa fans and other mature
>readers in that country... but it has to be that publisher's decision.
>Maybe they think it would be too strained for the kids to read (and maybe
>they would be right, at that?!); maybe the translator doesn't feel he can
>handle the runometer well enough in his language (just as I'm not
>comfortable with all the details in some technical stories); maybe they
>haven't the time to do a proper job about it; maybe they can use some other
>tricks to lend a proper atmosphere to their dialog... or whatever their
>reasons may be. I always enjoy putting a little poetry or pseudo-poetry in
>the stories when needed, but I wouldn't expect every translator and
>publisher in the world to work in exactly the same way that I do. For
>better or for worse.
I like this paragraph. I like it so much I decided to make sure it appears
more than once on the mailing list. Hope you don't mind.
Gary
****************************
"I took the liberty of updating your resume. I'm guessing you'll need it
soon" - the world's smartest garbage man
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Nils Lid Hjort
"love" in Duckburg
Message 139 -
1999-12-08 at 20:39:05
Yesterday I inquired about toilets in Duckburg,
today I'm shifting register and ask about "love".
In English and American usage this word is much
more frequent and ambiguous, and therefore less
weighty and less precise, and more context-dependent,
than in several other languages: Liebe, kjærlighet,
liobov', amour, agape, amor/ardor/flamma/amans...
In these other languages the corresponding word
typically means more and carries more weight and
temperature than in poor pedestrian English/American.
So I'd expect the word "love" to have appeared once
in a while in the Duckburg reports we read, perhaps
in contexts as "I'd love to ...", "how I'd love to ...",
"I love vanilla/icecream". Nevertheless I suspect (real)
love is a theme (like toilets) with which artists
and publishers would choose to avoid serious contact
in Disney comics (for several reasons).
I'm slowly converging towards my question du jour:
are there earlier instances in Disney comics where
"love" is explicitly used, in the "real" sense
(more weighty than loving soda (DD) or prunes (167-761?))?
Has the word "kjærlighet" ever appeared in DD's 50 year
history in Norway, for example? Or "Liebe" in the
German Mickey Mouse weekly?
One reason for being curious about this is that the
word _does_ (cleverly, relevantly and movingly) appear
in DD & Co. #50 next week. I'm also curious about how
other translators have solved the task -- the German
#1/2000 goes around it slightly differently, for example.
(I have lent out my Finnish Kalevala book to my Finnish-Estonian-
Vepsian-Ingermanian-East/West-Karelian-Votian-Livian
-Latvian-Mordvinian-reading friend and cannot check this spot now.)
So: 20 Norwegian crowns to the first person able to find
the word "kjærlighet" in any Disney Duckburg-universe
comics story prior to the next week issue.
Nils Lid Hjort
PS:
Stefan P: <<BTW, "runometer" is called "rune-o-meter" in English.>>
Stefan D (hesitantly): <<I'll take your word for it...>>
Don't -- this is such a rare word that when the occasion
raises its head one is allowed to (re)construct it for
its intended use. And scholars use both "runo" and "rune"
in this Finnish-Nordic context (from "runar", Old Norse).
And it's actually "metre" this side of the Atlantic.
I'd write runometre.
today I'm shifting register and ask about "love".
In English and American usage this word is much
more frequent and ambiguous, and therefore less
weighty and less precise, and more context-dependent,
than in several other languages: Liebe, kjærlighet,
liobov', amour, agape, amor/ardor/flamma/amans...
In these other languages the corresponding word
typically means more and carries more weight and
temperature than in poor pedestrian English/American.
So I'd expect the word "love" to have appeared once
in a while in the Duckburg reports we read, perhaps
in contexts as "I'd love to ...", "how I'd love to ...",
"I love vanilla/icecream". Nevertheless I suspect (real)
love is a theme (like toilets) with which artists
and publishers would choose to avoid serious contact
in Disney comics (for several reasons).
I'm slowly converging towards my question du jour:
are there earlier instances in Disney comics where
"love" is explicitly used, in the "real" sense
(more weighty than loving soda (DD) or prunes (167-761?))?
Has the word "kjærlighet" ever appeared in DD's 50 year
history in Norway, for example? Or "Liebe" in the
German Mickey Mouse weekly?
One reason for being curious about this is that the
word _does_ (cleverly, relevantly and movingly) appear
in DD & Co. #50 next week. I'm also curious about how
other translators have solved the task -- the German
#1/2000 goes around it slightly differently, for example.
(I have lent out my Finnish Kalevala book to my Finnish-Estonian-
Vepsian-Ingermanian-East/West-Karelian-Votian-Livian
-Latvian-Mordvinian-reading friend and cannot check this spot now.)
So: 20 Norwegian crowns to the first person able to find
the word "kjærlighet" in any Disney Duckburg-universe
comics story prior to the next week issue.
Nils Lid Hjort
PS:
Stefan P: <<BTW, "runometer" is called "rune-o-meter" in English.>>
Stefan D (hesitantly): <<I'll take your word for it...>>
Don't -- this is such a rare word that when the occasion
raises its head one is allowed to (re)construct it for
its intended use. And scholars use both "runo" and "rune"
in this Finnish-Nordic context (from "runar", Old Norse).
And it's actually "metre" this side of the Atlantic.
I'd write runometre.
Georgios Balanikas
Greek summer specials
Message 140 -
1999-12-08 at 22:39:08
ANDERS
>Georgias, if you don't like those stories, may I ask if you liked the
>summer-specials with Scrooge, mickey, Donald and the others? 6 issues
>they published, with D-coded stories.
Some of them contained very nice stories.
For example I really liked the Scrooge Special. There are two stories by
Vicar, one by J.Lusting/Branca, another by D.Rawson/Marshall....I enjoyed
all of them . The paper quality was inferior compared to that one of KOMIX.
I am not negative to the other Disney editions and I am looking for nice
stories with interesting scripts and acceptable or sometimes wonderful art.
And in fact there are many of them with those characteristics.
Another nice recent example is the story D98405 which was published in
Aku Ankka #44 (D.Rawson/Ferioli) as a 10 -page (not 32).
.................
If I'll find *Minnie* I will let you know.
Georgios Balanikas
>Georgias, if you don't like those stories, may I ask if you liked the
>summer-specials with Scrooge, mickey, Donald and the others? 6 issues
>they published, with D-coded stories.
Some of them contained very nice stories.
For example I really liked the Scrooge Special. There are two stories by
Vicar, one by J.Lusting/Branca, another by D.Rawson/Marshall....I enjoyed
all of them . The paper quality was inferior compared to that one of KOMIX.
I am not negative to the other Disney editions and I am looking for nice
stories with interesting scripts and acceptable or sometimes wonderful art.
And in fact there are many of them with those characteristics.
Another nice recent example is the story D98405 which was published in
Aku Ankka #44 (D.Rawson/Ferioli) as a 10 -page (not 32).
.................
If I'll find *Minnie* I will let you know.
Georgios Balanikas
Vidar Svendsen
"love" in Duckburg
Message 141 -
1999-12-08 at 23:56:36
Nils Lid Hjort
>So: 20 Norwegian crowns to the first person able to find
>the word "kjærlighet" in any Disney Duckburg-universe
>comics story prior to the next week issue.
D 88140 (DD&co 19/90)
The extra to DD&Co 2/97 had a page about Donald in love and
DD&Co 15/99 had a page about Donald and marriage. Donald actually proposes
a marriage in this issue (D 8586)
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Vidar Svendsen http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/
"There is an art, it says,
or rather, a knack to flying
The knack lies in learning
how to throw yourself at the ground
and miss"
>So: 20 Norwegian crowns to the first person able to find
>the word "kjærlighet" in any Disney Duckburg-universe
>comics story prior to the next week issue.
D 88140 (DD&co 19/90)
The extra to DD&Co 2/97 had a page about Donald in love and
DD&Co 15/99 had a page about Donald and marriage. Donald actually proposes
a marriage in this issue (D 8586)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/
"There is an art, it says,
or rather, a knack to flying
The knack lies in learning
how to throw yourself at the ground
and miss"
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Re:Barks outstanding stories
Message 142 -
1999-12-09 at 01:37:15
Of course, I wasn't saying that Barks is the only person who ever
influenced someone to draw disney comics. There are many artists and
writers I've sadly been under-exposed to, because here in the US we just
didn't get a great amount of Italian stories. Most Gladstone issues
consisted mainly of Barks, Rosa, Van Horn, Gottfredson and Egmont with
the odd bit of Verhagen and Jippes thrown in. We have sadly gotten
*very* few Scarpa stories, and though I have a few in Italian, I don't
speak Italian so all I can say is "very impressive artwork". I hope if
we ever have Disney comics in America again we will be blessed with some
additional variety. But right now I just hope we'll be blessed with
Disney comics in America again.
~~~Rodney.
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influenced someone to draw disney comics. There are many artists and
writers I've sadly been under-exposed to, because here in the US we just
didn't get a great amount of Italian stories. Most Gladstone issues
consisted mainly of Barks, Rosa, Van Horn, Gottfredson and Egmont with
the odd bit of Verhagen and Jippes thrown in. We have sadly gotten
*very* few Scarpa stories, and though I have a few in Italian, I don't
speak Italian so all I can say is "very impressive artwork". I hope if
we ever have Disney comics in America again we will be blessed with some
additional variety. But right now I just hope we'll be blessed with
Disney comics in America again.
~~~Rodney.
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Paolo Castagno
Bucky Bug
Message 143 -
1999-12-09 at 11:09:35
Hello,
Special Education wrote:
> I am trying to find a way to purchase a comic book that had
> the Bucky Bug clip within.
Are you interested just in USA comics or something written in
Italian might be of any interest to you?
- Paolo
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Special Education wrote:
> I am trying to find a way to purchase a comic book that had
> the Bucky Bug clip within.
Are you interested just in USA comics or something written in
Italian might be of any interest to you?
- Paolo
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Paolo Castagno
Bucky Bug
Message 144 -
1999-12-09 at 11:09:35
Hello,
Special Education wrote:
> I am trying to find a way to purchase a comic book that had
> the Bucky Bug clip within.
Are you interested just in USA comics or something written in
Italian might be of any interest to you?
- Paolo
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Special Education wrote:
> I am trying to find a way to purchase a comic book that had
> the Bucky Bug clip within.
Are you interested just in USA comics or something written in
Italian might be of any interest to you?
- Paolo
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Robert J. Davidek
U$ 179
Message 145 -
1999-12-09 at 13:43:12
For those that may have missed it, the U$ 179 for sale on eBay went for
$1275.
$1275.
Halvor.Sandven
Quality in the Scandinavian Disney-books
Message 146 -
1999-12-09 at 15:13:47
Hello!
I'm a new member of this list, and maybe this is a bit off-target. If so, I
hope you'll forgive me.
I have rated nearly all the artists who have had some work published in the
danish Anders And, and with the help of the danish index in INDUCKS and a
system of my own, I have been able to show changes in quality in this book
thru the years. I have used the danish index, since this is almost complete,
but the results should be valid for the norwegian and swedish (and finnish?)
books too. The grades for each year are plotted in an Excel-diagram. I know
that this sort of rating is very subjective, and it takes little regards to
the writers, but I still think the results are rather informative, even if
they may not be completely 'correct'.
I anyone is interested in details on this subject or want to see the
results, or if anyone has made anaything similar and want to compare, they
can send email to (Email removed) I am also interested in results
from other countries, if anyone has made such a thing. Then it would be
possible to compare the quality of the different books in different
countries, if you don't look at such things as paper quality etc.
--- Halvor.
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I'm a new member of this list, and maybe this is a bit off-target. If so, I
hope you'll forgive me.
I have rated nearly all the artists who have had some work published in the
danish Anders And, and with the help of the danish index in INDUCKS and a
system of my own, I have been able to show changes in quality in this book
thru the years. I have used the danish index, since this is almost complete,
but the results should be valid for the norwegian and swedish (and finnish?)
books too. The grades for each year are plotted in an Excel-diagram. I know
that this sort of rating is very subjective, and it takes little regards to
the writers, but I still think the results are rather informative, even if
they may not be completely 'correct'.
I anyone is interested in details on this subject or want to see the
results, or if anyone has made anaything similar and want to compare, they
can send email to (Email removed) I am also interested in results
from other countries, if anyone has made such a thing. Then it would be
possible to compare the quality of the different books in different
countries, if you don't look at such things as paper quality etc.
--- Halvor.
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Valitusta... perkeleen lista
Message 147 -
1999-12-10 at 00:50:30
What a------- e-mail did you send to me?
This is a group that discusses Disney Comics....so that's what the
e-mails are about. If you don't want to be part of it I'd suggest you'd
follow the message that you got when you subscribed to unsubscribe.....if
you don't want to unsubscribe, you're welcome to stay, but leave your
potty mouth at home.
~~~Rodney.
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e-mails are about. If you don't want to be part of it I'd suggest you'd
follow the message that you got when you subscribed to unsubscribe.....if
you don't want to unsubscribe, you're welcome to stay, but leave your
potty mouth at home.
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Ugo Dell'Arciprete
Kalevala in Italy?
Message 148 -
1999-12-10 at 01:30:14
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Hi everybody!
All the chat that was made recently on the list about the Kalevala story =
made me curious.
Before it was mentioned, I had never heard of it, as I guess it's the =
case for most non scandinavian members of the list.
I looked for some information on the net (if you are interested, a good =
page is http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/folklore/library/kalevala.html =
).
And now I'm curious to see how the ducks fit into the poem ... .
Can anyone (Luca ?) give us italian readers a hint when will the story =
be published in Italy (on ZP, I guess)?
Please forgive me for a short personal message to Marco : I sent you a =
mail, but my mail server doesn't recognize your address. If you're still =
on the list please contact me.
Bye
Ugo
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Hi everybody!
All the chat that was made recently on the list about the Kalevala story =
made me curious.
Before it was mentioned, I had never heard of it, as I guess it's the =
case for most non scandinavian members of the list.
I looked for some information on the net (if you are interested, a good =
page is http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/folklore/library/kalevala.html =
).
And now I'm curious to see how the ducks fit into the poem ... .
Can anyone (Luca ?) give us italian readers a hint when will the story =
be published in Italy (on ZP, I guess)?
Please forgive me for a short personal message to Marco : I sent you a =
mail, but my mail server doesn't recognize your address. If you're still =
on the list please contact me.
Bye
Ugo
=20
Carey Furlong
US 179, Again!
Message 149 -
1999-12-10 at 04:49:57
In case anyone is interested, Uncle Scrooge 179 went for $1275 dollars
on Ebay last night. The only comment I can think of to make is, "My
stars and little comets."
Carey
on Ebay last night. The only comment I can think of to make is, "My
stars and little comets."
Carey
David Rawson
Greek summer specials
Message 150 -
1999-12-10 at 04:57:33
Georgios Balanikas wrote:
> For example I really liked the Scrooge Special. There are two stories by
> Vicar, one by J.Lusting/Branca, another by D.Rawson/Marshall....I enjoyed
> all of them .
Hello, Georgios. Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you like my
work. This "Scrooge Special" was published in Greece? It would be
wonderful to find out my stories have reached there. (Recently,
David Gerstein has let me know some have been published in India.
That, too, was fantastic.) Was there a code on my story? If not,
do you know it's title or a simple description?
> I am not negative to the other Disney editions and I am looking for nice
> stories with interesting scripts and acceptable or sometimes wonderful art.
> And in fact there are many of them with those characteristics.
> Another nice recent example is the story D98405 which was published in
> Aku Ankka #44 (D.Rawson/Ferioli) as a 10 -page (not 32).
Ah, VACATION BRAKE where Pete and Sylvester Shyster conspire to
steal the color from fall in rural New England. Oddly, because of
changing global weather patterns that is exactly what happened
this year!
I had the privilege of chatting with Senor Ferioli a bit as we
rode together on the bus back from northern Denmark to the airport
in Kobenhavn after the Egmont conference of creators. He, too, had
kind words for my humble script. He seemed to enjoy the challenge
and said that for this story he had to learn to draw deciduous
trees with which he was previously unfamiliar.
He did an absolutely brilliant Pete for this story and the closing
panel with Mickey and Minnie's tail subtly intertwining into a
heart is classic. He understood precisely my subtext that they
enjoy a very real and lovingly mature relationship. I'm very
gratified to have had this story turn out as it did.
> For example I really liked the Scrooge Special. There are two stories by
> Vicar, one by J.Lusting/Branca, another by D.Rawson/Marshall....I enjoyed
> all of them .
Hello, Georgios. Thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you like my
work. This "Scrooge Special" was published in Greece? It would be
wonderful to find out my stories have reached there. (Recently,
David Gerstein has let me know some have been published in India.
That, too, was fantastic.) Was there a code on my story? If not,
do you know it's title or a simple description?
> I am not negative to the other Disney editions and I am looking for nice
> stories with interesting scripts and acceptable or sometimes wonderful art.
> And in fact there are many of them with those characteristics.
> Another nice recent example is the story D98405 which was published in
> Aku Ankka #44 (D.Rawson/Ferioli) as a 10 -page (not 32).
Ah, VACATION BRAKE where Pete and Sylvester Shyster conspire to
steal the color from fall in rural New England. Oddly, because of
changing global weather patterns that is exactly what happened
this year!
I had the privilege of chatting with Senor Ferioli a bit as we
rode together on the bus back from northern Denmark to the airport
in Kobenhavn after the Egmont conference of creators. He, too, had
kind words for my humble script. He seemed to enjoy the challenge
and said that for this story he had to learn to draw deciduous
trees with which he was previously unfamiliar.
He did an absolutely brilliant Pete for this story and the closing
panel with Mickey and Minnie's tail subtly intertwining into a
heart is classic. He understood precisely my subtext that they
enjoy a very real and lovingly mature relationship. I'm very
gratified to have had this story turn out as it did.