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CAREY FURLONG, 06-06-2003:

>>> Where is your Uncle Scrooge?

>> Hint: "Then, you have no uncle!"

> Ah. That was the hint I needed. Hewey, Dewey and Louie trying
> to convice the owner at Ajax Rent-A-Camel to rent them camels to
> use to search for their Uncle Scrooge in, "McDuck of Arabia" (US 55).

Correct. Someone else, Santiago, guessed this one in a private email.

As I wrote yesterday, I think "McDuck of Arabia" is a beautiful story
with great timing and great storytelling. Just look at how many things
are happening at the same time and on different locations, without
making the story difficult to follow. In my opinion, this is one of the
1960s stories that show how greatly Barks developed his storytelling
since his so-called "classic" period of the late 1940s and early 1950s.

Reading "McDuck of Arabia", I got fascinated by the great drawings of
the caravans and the desert. It looks so real to me, that I almost feel
that I'm part of the story, myself. (And, as far as I know, Barks had to
work with smaller and cheaper paper since the early 1960s, so this would
make the drawings even more of an effort to get so much atmosphere.)

Personally, I think that Barks' story-telling technique was at its best
in the 1960s. The 1960s stories are easy to read (unlike the stories from
the "classic" period), but in a way that requires a great story technique.
It's easier to make a story look difficult than vice versa. That's why I
think that Barks's 1960s stories and their technique are underestimated
by a lot of people, and that these stories deserve far more attention and
appreciation.

To name only a few, here are some other 1960s stories I find all-time
great Barks classics:

"Mystery of the Ghost Town Railroad" (US 56)
"The Swamp of No Return" (US 57)
"North of the Yukon" (US 59)
"The Phantom of the Norte Duck" (US 60)
"House of Haunts" (US 63)
"Micro-Ducks From Outer Space" (US 65)
"The Doom Diamond" (US 70)

And these are only a few. I'm afraid I'll list most of the 1960s Scrooge
adventures if I would go on.

> Okay. Identify this quote:
> "What puny marks men make on the face of the land."

Er... this one is of course far too easy. I don't want to spoil it for the
dummies, by immediately giving the answer. That would be unfair, of course,
for a good sport like me. (Cough! Cough! Brag! Brag!) :-)

--- Dani?l (running away, before people realise he doesn't know the answer)

Olaf:
>I now also remember a story where Black Pete got knocked in the bed by an
>ironer
>and suddenly remembered all about the time machine standing in the Museum
>basement (Zapotek and Marlin, Black Pete has used it a few times, but got a
>potion to forget all about it every time). So he decided to break into the
>museum, go back in time to 1928 and prevent Walt Disney from ever drawing
>Mickey, so he could go back to a future where Mickey didn't exist. How
>annoying
>to not remember story codes - can anyone help me on this one?

Yes, the story is I TL 1951-B:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?I+TL+1951-B

Hmm... we seem to discuss about this story once a year. I wonder
how it comes up next year? :-)

--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/

ROB KLEIN, 04-02-2002:

> I forgot to mention that Barks also drew a Duck Mayor, in
> addition to Pigs and Dogs/Weasels.

Rob, you wrote this more than a year ago, but do you still remember
in which story this Duck Mayor appeared?

BTW. Has anyone ever attempted to make a list of the different animal-
faces in Duckburg, apart from the well-known dog-faces, pig-faces,
chicken(?)-faces (like Gyro) and rat-faces?
I remember at least a hippopotamus-face, a horse/donkey-face, and even
an elephant-face. And as far as I remember, these were NO art-only
stories. A lot of people are interested in family-trees and Duckburg-
maps, so I think such a citizen-list might be a nice addition.

--- Dani?l

Daniel wrote:

>do you still remember in which story this Duck Mayor appeared?

There's a beaked mayor in this Barks art-only-story:

http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?W+OS+1055-06

But he's not from Duckburg and rather a representative of the Gyro species
than a duck.

Frank

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Regarding the question of different "races" or subspecies of residents of
Duckburg:

The Duck mayor of Duckburg (I referred to previously)was shown by Barks
in "Monsterville", the lead story of Gyro Gearloose Four Color Comic Nr. 1184
May-July 1961 (USA). He had a long white beard, and a full head of white hair
(feathers).

I think Barks put enough of his own interpretation into the scripts he recived
from the other writers, that even the "narrowest" "Barks Universe" should also
include all information from the stories he drew but did not write the original
script.

Rob
Klein

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Daniel wrote:
>>>That's why I
> think that Barks's 1960s stories and their technique are underestimated
> by a lot of people, and that these stories deserve far more attention and
> appreciation. >>>
>
I couldn't agree more. While his stories from the late 40's and the
early 50's are generally concidered classics, his storytelling and artwork
was boiled down to feature only the most essential in the mid- late 60's.
Only what's really needed to tell a good story is there. Art is done with
bold ink lines and with knowledge of exactly what will work and not. If you
look closely at the ducks their anatomy and poses is not as well definied as
in the 50's but they work because of the *acting* Barks was so good at.
Beeing an art editor myself I see too many samples of comic book art
sent here, where the artist is so focused on getting the poses and anatomy
right, the panels and characters becomes lifeless.
Making the ducks act and showing their emotions/feelings/ through
acting, treating their personalities as if they were *humans* is for me the
clue why Barks storytelling and artwork stands out from most other Disney
artists from that era. And still does for that matter.

/Joakim Gunnarsson.

Don't forget the McElks in 'Hound of the Whiskervilles' (who are no
Duckburgians, though).

There's another monkey and a wolf in WDC 74.

A stork lady in WDC 257.

A bear and a bull are members of the Billionaire's Club in 'The Christmas
Cha-Cha'. Later on a cow lady appears as well..

The judges in Duckburg are usually owls. In fact it seems to be the same guy
all of the time, at least to my eyes. I think he had his debut in Letter to
Santa, although I'd have to check.

The famous Chisel McSue is a fox.

Last not least there also live human beings in Duckburg.

About the guy in The Beauty Contest: Sorry, the German translation changed
the senator into a mayor.

Frank

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I wrote in my Murry post about a month ago:
> I don't have the book here to check it up, but I've
> heard that this theory is supported in Bruno Sarda
> and Massimo De Vita's marvellous story "Alla ricerca
> della pietra zodiacale - L'eredit? di Zodiacus" (I TL
> 1791-A), where Mickey makes a phone call to Scrooge
> and a map shows Duckburg on the west coast and
> Mouseton on the east coast (thanks to Arne Bye for
> making me aware of this). When I first read this story
> myself I was too young to know what USA looked like,
> so I never noticed this - and now I have the book at home,
> 99950 kilometres away (well, at least a hundred).

Well, I have read the story now, and I was COMPLETELY wrong. The situation was
the other way around!

The setting showed MICKEY, being in the museum with Zapotec and Marlin, being
situated in CALIFORNIA, while SCROOGE, sitting safe in his money bin, was
somewhere in FLORIDA! (this was in part six of the Zodiacus-series)

However, another thing I noticed was that in the Zodiacus-series part 1, Mickey
and Goofy had to go to Miami (from Mouseton), and said "luckily it's not far
away". Which could mean they was already quite close to Florida - but not IN
Florida, as Goofy went there in typical Floridan tourist clothes and said "I
thought you HAD to dress like this when in Florida!"

Best, Olaf the Blue
15 days from heaven