Hej Joakim, - I'm curious about the panels you think habve replacement art
in "Terror Of The River", and the Grandma Duck story. I looked closely at
Terror Of The River", and see NO panel that seems to have Donald drawn by
someone else. Do you mean Panel 4 on page 26 (page 346 in Carl barks Library)?
Also, I'm curious to know about the replacement panel in Grandma Duck's farm
friends Four Color No. 1010, Page 5 Panel 6 of "Sheepish Cowboys" (CBL Set VI,
Book 2, Page 489). The panel is clearly drawn by someone else other than Barks,
with NO Background!!! The poor quality of the drawing, and having NO background
shows that it was done VERY quickly. But, I really don't remember having seen
that drawing in the original comic book. It sticks out like a sore thumb. I
would have remembered such a difference from Barks' style. Could that have been
changed for The Carl Barks Library, only???
Rob Klein
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Replacement Art
Message 241 -
2003-06-17 at 03:49:16
Gary Leach
MMiC and "The Fine Art Book"
Message 242 -
2003-06-17 at 05:05:03
My best answer to the inquiries about "Mickey Mouse in Color" and "The
Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck" is this:
No editions of these books have been produced since their original
publications by Another Rainbow, and there are no current plans to
produce new editions.
Beyond that, I would second that both books were, indeed, labors of
love. I was not around for the production of "The Fine Art of Walt
Disney's Donald Duck", but I believe the result speaks for itself on
that score. As for "Mickey Mouse in Color", again I was not involved in
the original planning, but was definitely up to my neck in the actual
production - as was John Clark and Susan Daigle-Leach, among others.
It, too, was a grand vision realized, though I have to admit that the
battle scars from getting it published have left me a little less able
to appreciate it for its own sake.
One of the great missed opportunities of publishing was the plan to
have both Floyd Gottfredson and Carl Barks do a special remarqued
edition of the upscale version of "Mickey Mouse in Color". Barks did
his drawings - of Donald, in pencil - but, sadly, Gottfredson passed
away before he could do his complementary drawings. Barks' drawings
were bound into the planned number of books, but to look at one leaves
one rather wistful for what could have been.
A few years ago, as I may have mentioned before on this mailing list,
there was a plan to do a new edition of "The Fine Art..." book,
utilizing new reproduction techniques. This plan has seen no progress
for some time, and may never come about...but it remains a possibility.
Gary
Fine Art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck" is this:
No editions of these books have been produced since their original
publications by Another Rainbow, and there are no current plans to
produce new editions.
Beyond that, I would second that both books were, indeed, labors of
love. I was not around for the production of "The Fine Art of Walt
Disney's Donald Duck", but I believe the result speaks for itself on
that score. As for "Mickey Mouse in Color", again I was not involved in
the original planning, but was definitely up to my neck in the actual
production - as was John Clark and Susan Daigle-Leach, among others.
It, too, was a grand vision realized, though I have to admit that the
battle scars from getting it published have left me a little less able
to appreciate it for its own sake.
One of the great missed opportunities of publishing was the plan to
have both Floyd Gottfredson and Carl Barks do a special remarqued
edition of the upscale version of "Mickey Mouse in Color". Barks did
his drawings - of Donald, in pencil - but, sadly, Gottfredson passed
away before he could do his complementary drawings. Barks' drawings
were bound into the planned number of books, but to look at one leaves
one rather wistful for what could have been.
A few years ago, as I may have mentioned before on this mailing list,
there was a plan to do a new edition of "The Fine Art..." book,
utilizing new reproduction techniques. This plan has seen no progress
for some time, and may never come about...but it remains a possibility.
Gary
Danehog
New Disney Comics Release Date Question
Message 243 -
2003-06-17 at 06:52:20
I remember reading that the new Disney comics were going to be released on
June 17, which didn't make any sense to me, considering that the new comics are
shipped on Wednesday. Upon checking the Diamond shipping list[1], I noticed
that neither the new Uncle Scrooge or Walt Disney's Comics and Stories was
slated for release on Wednesday.
What's going on? Does anyone know when the books will be released for sure?
[1] -- http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/shipping_061803.txt
--
Dane Martin
"Surrealism in th' service of sanity is no sin."
--Griffy, "Zippy the Pinhead"
June 17, which didn't make any sense to me, considering that the new comics are
shipped on Wednesday. Upon checking the Diamond shipping list[1], I noticed
that neither the new Uncle Scrooge or Walt Disney's Comics and Stories was
slated for release on Wednesday.
What's going on? Does anyone know when the books will be released for sure?
[1] -- http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/shipping_061803.txt
--
Dane Martin
"Surrealism in th' service of sanity is no sin."
--Griffy, "Zippy the Pinhead"
Klartekst
Barks Quiz
Message 244 -
2003-06-17 at 09:17:19
Daniel wrote:
>Do you think that DONALD is a horse? The quote comes from a scene in
>which the colt has hypnotized Donald.
You are right, of course. The quote refers to Donald, not to the colt as I
mistakenly thought.
As for the new quote:
"So you'll have to leave RIGHT AWAY, as you'll only be able to travel by
DAYLIGHT!"
Here is a tip: To find out WHY they have to travel by daylight, look at
what the Beagle Boy is hiding behind his back.
Anyone who solves this one receives a free membership in the CLUB for human
search engines.
Nils from Norway
>Do you think that DONALD is a horse? The quote comes from a scene in
>which the colt has hypnotized Donald.
You are right, of course. The quote refers to Donald, not to the colt as I
mistakenly thought.
As for the new quote:
"So you'll have to leave RIGHT AWAY, as you'll only be able to travel by
DAYLIGHT!"
Here is a tip: To find out WHY they have to travel by daylight, look at
what the Beagle Boy is hiding behind his back.
Anyone who solves this one receives a free membership in the CLUB for human
search engines.
Nils from Norway
Gunnarsson, Joakim SE - HMJ
Face of Terror
Message 245 -
2003-06-17 at 13:34:40
Hi, all!
Just a correction of yesterdays post.
I checked the face of DD in "Terror of the river" (on the last page) and it
was indeed drawn by Barks.
(Even if it wasn't one of his better drawings of DD...)
Sorry. Must be the cold I have that messes my mind up.
/Joakim.
Just a correction of yesterdays post.
I checked the face of DD in "Terror of the river" (on the last page) and it
was indeed drawn by Barks.
(Even if it wasn't one of his better drawings of DD...)
Sorry. Must be the cold I have that messes my mind up.
/Joakim.
Stefan Persson
Gemstone: Life and Times?
Message 246 -
2003-06-18 at 00:02:00
>From: Anthvvuono at aol.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Gemstone: Life and Times?
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:50:24 EDT
> I was wondering if Gemstone has any future plans to do a single
>volume hardcover edition of the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don
>Rosa. I
>would love to see a complete edition in print with the 12 original chapters
>plus
>his additional chapters and commentary or further analysis. I've always
>wanted
>one book with the 15 chapters or so in sequential order so it looks like
>one
>continuous long story. I know the Europeans have produced great examples of
>this. Will Americans have their turn? I believe this book could also sell
>well
>since bookstores would probably love to have it in regular book format. If
>it
>can't be done for sevaral years, I understand (Don Rosa might have more
>chapters of L&T by then anyways). Is there any possibility at all?
Didn't Gladstone publish a Lo$ book?
Stefan
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Hitta r?tt k?pare p? MSN K?p & S?lj http://www.msn.se/koposalj
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Gemstone: Life and Times?
>Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:50:24 EDT
> I was wondering if Gemstone has any future plans to do a single
>volume hardcover edition of the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don
>Rosa. I
>would love to see a complete edition in print with the 12 original chapters
>plus
>his additional chapters and commentary or further analysis. I've always
>wanted
>one book with the 15 chapters or so in sequential order so it looks like
>one
>continuous long story. I know the Europeans have produced great examples of
>this. Will Americans have their turn? I believe this book could also sell
>well
>since bookstores would probably love to have it in regular book format. If
>it
>can't be done for sevaral years, I understand (Don Rosa might have more
>chapters of L&T by then anyways). Is there any possibility at all?
Didn't Gladstone publish a Lo$ book?
Stefan
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Cord Wiljes
AW: MMiC and "The Fine Art Book"
Message 247 -
2003-06-18 at 00:02:36
Gary Leach wrote:
> As for "Mickey Mouse in Color", again I was not involved in
> the original planning, but was definitely up to my neck in the actual
> production - as was John Clark and Susan Daigle-Leach, among others.
> It, too, was a grand vision realized, though I have to admit that the
> battle scars from getting it published have left me a little
> less able to appreciate it for its own sake.
I believe "Mickey Mouse in Color" to be among the greatest books ever.
In fact I recently made a thought experiment: If I had to chose among my
2000+ books and 7000+ comics the ten items I would take with me to a deserted
island - which ten items would those be? "Mickey Mouse in Color" made it
into the list:
http://www.biblioforum.de/forum/read.php?f=3&i=10&t=10
The book is still available at original price (10+ years after its publication)
so I suppose demand was not very high. Do you have any idea why it obviously
did not sell as much as it deserves?
Cord
> As for "Mickey Mouse in Color", again I was not involved in
> the original planning, but was definitely up to my neck in the actual
> production - as was John Clark and Susan Daigle-Leach, among others.
> It, too, was a grand vision realized, though I have to admit that the
> battle scars from getting it published have left me a little
> less able to appreciate it for its own sake.
I believe "Mickey Mouse in Color" to be among the greatest books ever.
In fact I recently made a thought experiment: If I had to chose among my
2000+ books and 7000+ comics the ten items I would take with me to a deserted
island - which ten items would those be? "Mickey Mouse in Color" made it
into the list:
http://www.biblioforum.de/forum/read.php?f=3&i=10&t=10
The book is still available at original price (10+ years after its publication)
so I suppose demand was not very high. Do you have any idea why it obviously
did not sell as much as it deserves?
Cord
Cord Wiljes
WG: MMiC and "The Fine Art Book"
Message 248 -
2003-06-18 at 00:07:47
Gary Leach wrote:
> As for "Mickey Mouse in Color", again I was not involved in
> the original planning, but was definitely up to my neck in the actual
> production - as was John Clark and Susan Daigle-Leach, among others.
> It, too, was a grand vision realized, though I have to admit that the
> battle scars from getting it published have left me a little
> less able to appreciate it for its own sake.
I believe "Mickey Mouse in Color" to be among the greatest books ever.
In fact I recently made a thought experiment: If I had to chose among my
2000+ books and 7000+ comics the ten items I would take with me to a deserted
island - which ten items would those be? "Mickey Mouse in Color" made it
into the list:
http://www.biblioforum.de/forum/read.php?f=3&i=10&t=10
The book is still available at original price (10+ years after its publication)
so I suppose demand was not very high. Do you have any idea why it obviously
did not sell as much as it deserves?
Cord
> As for "Mickey Mouse in Color", again I was not involved in
> the original planning, but was definitely up to my neck in the actual
> production - as was John Clark and Susan Daigle-Leach, among others.
> It, too, was a grand vision realized, though I have to admit that the
> battle scars from getting it published have left me a little
> less able to appreciate it for its own sake.
I believe "Mickey Mouse in Color" to be among the greatest books ever.
In fact I recently made a thought experiment: If I had to chose among my
2000+ books and 7000+ comics the ten items I would take with me to a deserted
island - which ten items would those be? "Mickey Mouse in Color" made it
into the list:
http://www.biblioforum.de/forum/read.php?f=3&i=10&t=10
The book is still available at original price (10+ years after its publication)
so I suppose demand was not very high. Do you have any idea why it obviously
did not sell as much as it deserves?
Cord
Kriton Kyrimis
MMiC and "The Fine Art Book"
Message 249 -
2003-06-18 at 09:24:16
CORD:
> The book is still available at original price (10+ years after its publication)
> so I suppose demand was not very high. Do you have any idea why it obviously
> did not sell as much as it deserves?
If you are talking about the deluxe version, there is one very obvious reason:
as great as the book might be, both in terms of content and of production
value, it has two severe drawbacks: you can't hold it in your hands to read
it, and it is impossible to put in a bookshelf--the book is *huge*! It is more
like something meant to be placed on a coffeee table so that you can show off
to your friends, bragging about how much you payed for it. I only bought it
because I didn't pay close attention to Gladstone's ad, where they specificly
mentioned the book's dimensions. I ended up storing it flat in my stereo rack,
as it is the same size as my stereo components, and this was the only place
where I could fit it!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Sorry, but I'm from the twentieth century and I have no idea what you're
talking about."
-----
> The book is still available at original price (10+ years after its publication)
> so I suppose demand was not very high. Do you have any idea why it obviously
> did not sell as much as it deserves?
If you are talking about the deluxe version, there is one very obvious reason:
as great as the book might be, both in terms of content and of production
value, it has two severe drawbacks: you can't hold it in your hands to read
it, and it is impossible to put in a bookshelf--the book is *huge*! It is more
like something meant to be placed on a coffeee table so that you can show off
to your friends, bragging about how much you payed for it. I only bought it
because I didn't pay close attention to Gladstone's ad, where they specificly
mentioned the book's dimensions. I ended up storing it flat in my stereo rack,
as it is the same size as my stereo components, and this was the only place
where I could fit it!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Sorry, but I'm from the twentieth century and I have no idea what you're
talking about."
-----
Cord Wiljes
AW: MMiC and "The Fine Art Book"
Message 250 -
2003-06-18 at 10:29:00
Kriton wrote about "Mickey Mouse in Color":
> As great as the book might be, both in terms of content and
> of production value, it has two severe drawbacks: you can't
> hold it in your hands to read it, and it is impossible to put
> in a bookshelf--the book is *huge*!
Nice to know that there are other MMiC's out there 8:o)
I bought the standard edition (which is indeed long sold out now)
to read and the deluxe edition to marvel about. I earned around
$ 350 a month when I bought it. I do not display the book because
of the huge size you mentioned and I think my friends would not
envy me for it but call me crazy ;-)
Maybe it can be compared to a Ferrari: It is too small to transport
anything, needs too much fuel, is expensive, you cannot park it in a
public parking place and it is difficult to drive. So which sane
person would like to own a Ferrari? _I_ definitely don't - but I
understand there are people out there who would. So let them have
their Ferraris - I have my MMiC.
Cord
> As great as the book might be, both in terms of content and
> of production value, it has two severe drawbacks: you can't
> hold it in your hands to read it, and it is impossible to put
> in a bookshelf--the book is *huge*!
Nice to know that there are other MMiC's out there 8:o)
I bought the standard edition (which is indeed long sold out now)
to read and the deluxe edition to marvel about. I earned around
$ 350 a month when I bought it. I do not display the book because
of the huge size you mentioned and I think my friends would not
envy me for it but call me crazy ;-)
Maybe it can be compared to a Ferrari: It is too small to transport
anything, needs too much fuel, is expensive, you cannot park it in a
public parking place and it is difficult to drive. So which sane
person would like to own a Ferrari? _I_ definitely don't - but I
understand there are people out there who would. So let them have
their Ferraris - I have my MMiC.
Cord
Mads Jensen
Gemstone: Life and Times?
Message 251 -
2003-06-18 at 11:54:20
> Didn't Gladstone publish a Lo$ book?
Yes, they did, but this book was limited and signed, and did not include all
the subchapters!
/Mads
--
Mads Jensen
http://www.ddfr.dk Dansk Donaldist-Forening
Yes, they did, but this book was limited and signed, and did not include all
the subchapters!
/Mads
--
Mads Jensen
http://www.ddfr.dk Dansk Donaldist-Forening
Gary Leach
Shipping Gemstones
Message 252 -
2003-06-18 at 15:09:36
Dane, and all:
Gemstone's first regular Disneys, Uncle Scrooge #319 and Walt Disney's
Comics and Stories #634, are shipping from the printer today.
Gary
Gemstone's first regular Disneys, Uncle Scrooge #319 and Walt Disney's
Comics and Stories #634, are shipping from the printer today.
Gary
Mattias Hallin
Shipping Gemstones
Message 253 -
2003-06-18 at 15:49:24
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Gary Leach wrote:
> Gemstone's first regular Disneys, Uncle Scrooge #319 and Walt Disney's
> Comics and Stories #634, are shipping from the printer today.
Any news about when subscriptions will be available? Belgium might be one
of the better places to live in the world if one likes comics, except if
those comics are Disney comics, so the possibility to subscribe would come
in rather handy...
All the best,
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <cmhallin at algonet.se> ***
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
> Gemstone's first regular Disneys, Uncle Scrooge #319 and Walt Disney's
> Comics and Stories #634, are shipping from the printer today.
Any news about when subscriptions will be available? Belgium might be one
of the better places to live in the world if one likes comics, except if
those comics are Disney comics, so the possibility to subscribe would come
in rather handy...
All the best,
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <cmhallin at algonet.se> ***
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Mickey Mouse in The Netherlands, 1931
Message 254 -
2003-06-19 at 10:41:53
DAVID GERSTEIN to ERIK, 31-03-2003:
> The book _Im Reiche der Micky Maus_ (1991), by Mario Dre?ler and
> J. P. Storm, is still available from some Internet booksellers. It
> explains in detail how a German newspaper published the Mickey strip
> under license for some while in the early 1930s, and even had their
> own cartoonist do a Mickey story of their own for a special holiday
> number. This story, a one- or two-pager as I recall, is reprinted in
> full in the book.
> _Im Reiche_ was originally tied to a 1991 exhibition in Berlin, but
> it remains a great reference book on its own. The early 1930s Mickey
> phenomenon as experienced in Europe is a woefully understudied topic,
> I think: I know only one similar book, Lasse ?berg's _Musseum_, that
> tackles the subject; in this case, from a Swedish perspective.
> I imagine that Italy in particular, home of ten gazillion Disney
> reference books, must have something similar, but if so I haven't
> seen it...
The December 24, 1931 Christmas-attachment of Dutch newspaper
"Leidsch Dagblad" shows a page-full non-Disney illustration which
includes a running Mickey Mouse as detail. The illustration is signed
by Herman Nijgh, who studied in Berlin, Germany. Possibly, he had
Berlin's famous KaDeWe department store in mind.
This information is taken from a reprint in December 22, 2001 Christmas-
attachment of Dutch newspaper "Haarlems Dagblad", "Dagblad van Almere"
and possibly also "IJmuider Courant". It is part of a memorial by the
artist's son, Lennaert Nijgh.
Mentioning the artist's son Lennaert Nijgh may not mean anything for
non-Dutch people, but he is one of the most respected (song)writers here.
He wrote lyrics for Dutch performers like Boudewijn de Groot ("Het land
van Maas en Waal") en Rob de Nijs ("Malle Babbe"). Unfortunately, he died
last year.
I don't know if this 1931 Dutch illustration may be of any importance in
the European/Dutch Disney history, but I was surprised to see this early
Mickey appearance. The artist must have seen Mickey Mouse before, at least.
And if he didn't see Mickey in a Dutch publication, then maybe his time in
Berlin may have been of influence? I'm very curious.
BTW. I have the reprint, but my scanner has flaws in its picture-quality.
--- Dani?l
"Onder de groene hemel, in de blauwe zon
speelt het blikken harmonieorkest
in een grote regenton..."
> The book _Im Reiche der Micky Maus_ (1991), by Mario Dre?ler and
> J. P. Storm, is still available from some Internet booksellers. It
> explains in detail how a German newspaper published the Mickey strip
> under license for some while in the early 1930s, and even had their
> own cartoonist do a Mickey story of their own for a special holiday
> number. This story, a one- or two-pager as I recall, is reprinted in
> full in the book.
> _Im Reiche_ was originally tied to a 1991 exhibition in Berlin, but
> it remains a great reference book on its own. The early 1930s Mickey
> phenomenon as experienced in Europe is a woefully understudied topic,
> I think: I know only one similar book, Lasse ?berg's _Musseum_, that
> tackles the subject; in this case, from a Swedish perspective.
> I imagine that Italy in particular, home of ten gazillion Disney
> reference books, must have something similar, but if so I haven't
> seen it...
The December 24, 1931 Christmas-attachment of Dutch newspaper
"Leidsch Dagblad" shows a page-full non-Disney illustration which
includes a running Mickey Mouse as detail. The illustration is signed
by Herman Nijgh, who studied in Berlin, Germany. Possibly, he had
Berlin's famous KaDeWe department store in mind.
This information is taken from a reprint in December 22, 2001 Christmas-
attachment of Dutch newspaper "Haarlems Dagblad", "Dagblad van Almere"
and possibly also "IJmuider Courant". It is part of a memorial by the
artist's son, Lennaert Nijgh.
Mentioning the artist's son Lennaert Nijgh may not mean anything for
non-Dutch people, but he is one of the most respected (song)writers here.
He wrote lyrics for Dutch performers like Boudewijn de Groot ("Het land
van Maas en Waal") en Rob de Nijs ("Malle Babbe"). Unfortunately, he died
last year.
I don't know if this 1931 Dutch illustration may be of any importance in
the European/Dutch Disney history, but I was surprised to see this early
Mickey appearance. The artist must have seen Mickey Mouse before, at least.
And if he didn't see Mickey in a Dutch publication, then maybe his time in
Berlin may have been of influence? I'm very curious.
BTW. I have the reprint, but my scanner has flaws in its picture-quality.
--- Dani?l
"Onder de groene hemel, in de blauwe zon
speelt het blikken harmonieorkest
in een grote regenton..."
Timo Ronkainen
Im Reiche der Micky Maus
Message 255 -
2003-06-19 at 11:17:08
Hi!
Can anyone help me to get this book "Im Reiche der Micky Maus"? I can see
it's available from German comics shop Dreidreizehn, but payment can be done
outside Germany only by Credit Card or PayPal and I don't have either one.
:-(
I could send money to anyone who can get this book for me, to cover all
costs. (20 euros plus postal).
Thanks in advance!
Timo
^^''*''^^
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Can anyone help me to get this book "Im Reiche der Micky Maus"? I can see
it's available from German comics shop Dreidreizehn, but payment can be done
outside Germany only by Credit Card or PayPal and I don't have either one.
:-(
I could send money to anyone who can get this book for me, to cover all
costs. (20 euros plus postal).
Thanks in advance!
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
?? Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
?? Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
_________________________________________________________________
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