DAVID GERSTEIN to ROB KLEIN, 13-06-2003:
> But Carl Buettner *did* draw a whole story with Donald- WDC&S 50's
> Three Caballeros story, which was published about a year and a half
> before "The Firebug"
I cannot judge the identification of the artist of the last two panels,
but I'm reading the discussion with great interest.
On 7 August 1998, Luca Boschi wrote: "I bet he has been Carl Von Buettner
"art editor" at Western, a very clever artists. The same who redrew some
Bugs Bunny's heads in Barks' "Porky of the Mounties". His art is very
similar to that one showed on some covers SURELY drawn by him."
Luca seems to have written an article about this in Zio Paperone #100,
Italy. I'm curious for his opinion on this discussion.
JAIL ENDINGS IN BUETTNER AND BARKS STORIES
What I find interesting is the mentioning of Carl Buettner's 'The Three
Caballeros' (WDC 50). In that story an (innocent) Donald ends up in jail.
About 'The Firebug', Barks has said: "The editors objected to the last
couple of panels of that story because I had Donald set fire to the judge's
wastebasket. [It] accidently burned down the courthouse, and he wound up in
jail. Western couldn't have a Disney character looking out from behind bars
in the final panel of the story, so they changed the ending. They didn't
usually redraw my art like that; the editors would often suggest that the
artist do the changing himself. [...]" Source: Carl Barks Library (1B-362)
I remember having written about these jail endings before, on 8 July 2001:
"http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2001-July/016408.html".
What I find remarkable is that both the Caballeros-story and 'The Firebug'
end/ended with Donald being put in jail. And there's even a *third* story
from 1944-1946 with a similar ending: the water ski race story (WDC 62) by
Barks. After causing great chaos during a ski race, Donald ends up in jail.
So, between November 1944 and November 1945, *before* 'The Firebug', there
were already *two* stories with a jail ending. The Caballeros-story by
Buettner (WDC 50) and the water ski race story by Barks (WDC 62).
The water ski race story was submitted on 27 June 1945. 'The Firebug' was
submitted on 19 July 1945. This is less than a month later. (Correct?)
<GUESS>So, in June/July 1945, the editor saw yet another Disney comic
jail ending, within two years - the second one within a month - and they
decided that the stories were going into a wrong direction. They feared
that regularly ending up in jail would become a standard element in
Disney comics. This would give the Disney characters a criminal image.
And so, they changed the ending to give a signal. And that signal could
be "Don't do this too much" or simply "Don't do this ever again."</GUESS>
Does this guess make sense? Are there other USA Disney stories with Disney
characters ending in jail, especially in the 1940s? And what about jail
scenes *during* stories?
If Carl Buettner was staff artist, then at least he could/should have
known that 'The Firebug' already was the third story with a jail ending,
within two years - because he wrote and drew one of these stories, himself.
(And maybe he was even the one who started with a jail ending in USA
Disney comics? Does someone know this?)
Was Carl Buettner staff artist at the time of making the Caballeros-story?
If so, that might be a case of an editor initially giving a wrong direction
to their artists. In a retrospective view, at least.
--- Dani?l (intended to stay behind the computer for only a few minutes...)
<PS>In the "Caballeros"-story, Donald gets the blame for all the damage
that is caused by his visiting two Caballeros friends, Panchito and Jos?.
During the visit, they are quite unmannered. Donald is held responsible,
because they are his guests... Donald is helpless in keeping them under
control. After a few warnings, he's put into jail. End. I remember looking
through this story as a young kid, unable to read the dialogue and unable
to understand it. Later, when I was able to read, I still didn't get the
point. Why should Donald be guilty of someone else's behaviour? Because
it serves the story? Then, which story?</PS>
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Topic: 200306
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
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Message 211 -
2003-06-14 at 06:20:17
Daniel Van Eijmeren
DCML archives are incomplete. Why?
Message 212 -
2003-06-14 at 07:04:18
The DCML archives at "http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/"
are incomplete. At least, the period from February 1995 to
November 1999 is missing. That's almost five years. So, about
half the time of this mailing list's existance is unrecorded
or erased. At least online.
I find the Disney Comics Mailing List very important.
History has been written here. Stories were discussed before
they were made. Stories were discussed after they were made,
regularly with fresh answers from the creators themselves.
Discoveries have been done. Information has been shared. Etc.
Disney Comics Mailing List became an interesting history on its
own. I hope that information won't get lost. It's too valuable.
Shouldn't there be a complete DCML archive available online?
--- Dani?l (thinks that a DCML CD-Rom should be sent into space,
like that laser disc with Earth impressions, as a message
for other galaxies...)
are incomplete. At least, the period from February 1995 to
November 1999 is missing. That's almost five years. So, about
half the time of this mailing list's existance is unrecorded
or erased. At least online.
I find the Disney Comics Mailing List very important.
History has been written here. Stories were discussed before
they were made. Stories were discussed after they were made,
regularly with fresh answers from the creators themselves.
Discoveries have been done. Information has been shared. Etc.
Disney Comics Mailing List became an interesting history on its
own. I hope that information won't get lost. It's too valuable.
Shouldn't there be a complete DCML archive available online?
--- Dani?l (thinks that a DCML CD-Rom should be sent into space,
like that laser disc with Earth impressions, as a message
for other galaxies...)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks-quote quiz 14-06-2003
Message 213 -
2003-06-14 at 08:11:46
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"Yessir! Thrift saves money, and money makes more money!
You just can't beat my system!"
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Too difficult? Then take this quote with a grain of ...
--- Dani?l
"Yessir! Thrift saves money, and money makes more money!
You just can't beat my system!"
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Too difficult? Then take this quote with a grain of ...
--- Dani?l
Timo Ronkainen
Firebug Artist
Message 214 -
2003-06-14 at 12:04:53
Hi all!
This all have been very interesting reading, although I have nothing much to
add, and have had little time to contribute even in general. I have no idea
who this artist might have been. Still, thanks David, for sharing the info
and panel samples of Buettner and Noonan. Noonan was completely new to me.
Rob:
>His editor at that time was a woman (I forget her
>name). he would have dealt with HER.
Eleanor Packer. Right? Anyway, I think the decision to change these panels
must have been hurried and sudden one, otherwise the job would have gone to
Barks himself.
Best Wishes
Timo
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This all have been very interesting reading, although I have nothing much to
add, and have had little time to contribute even in general. I have no idea
who this artist might have been. Still, thanks David, for sharing the info
and panel samples of Buettner and Noonan. Noonan was completely new to me.
Rob:
>His editor at that time was a woman (I forget her
>name). he would have dealt with HER.
Eleanor Packer. Right? Anyway, I think the decision to change these panels
must have been hurried and sudden one, otherwise the job would have gone to
Barks himself.
Best Wishes
Timo
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Lunnan & Hjort
Who messed up the "Firebug" 1946 story?
Message 215 -
2003-06-14 at 12:36:00
I got out my Donald Duck 1946 "Terror of the River" comic the
other day, and looked forward to some delightful minutes reading
"Donald Duck in the Firebug". I'm a fan of Dan Noonan, whose
work in e.g. "New Funnies" and "Animal Comics" is of high calibre,
and I believe "the Firebug" might be Noonan's best duck story ever.
Imagine then my surprise, frustration and irritation, when I saw
what I believe are the not entirely successful efforts of a quite different
artist to "repair" and post-edit Noonan's art and story line. Not only some
panels here and there, and some alterations of Dan's originally conceived
ingenious plot, but long sections, on many pages, seem to have fallen into
the hands of this other artist, for reasons incomprehensible to me. In fact
I believe nearly all of Noonan's original story and artwork have been
seriously affected by these strange and unmotivated editorial decisions.
Where are the allusions to Freudian-Jungian theories of dreams, that
Dan so masterfully put into his story? Gone with the winds of the editorial
office. Luckily Noonan's delightful ending of his story is at least kept
untouched and intact, including also some of his uniquely enjoyable prose
("I'll put cone-shaped blisters on your --" etc etc).
I must also say that in addition to the higher principles involved,
"though shalt not mess with another author's artwork" etc., and that
here are so blatantly broken, apparently without this having caused
the scandals and "sue you in the morning"s that I would have expected,
that some of the efforts of this unknown tinkering-with-others artist
leave me troubled. "A beeyootiful fire! I love fires!" etc etc is not
only disturbing, but orthographically incorrect. Pyromania of the piffledeck?
School of Quackery? What is this? The intended audience for all of this
is that of school children and readers of tender age and soft tinkerable souls.
"I must answer the call of the infernos!" Clearly Donald does not have
Dante Alighieri (1265-1321) in mind. Where is the Italian Embassy when
one needs it? And the bit about Doctor Carver Beakoff, Number 249 Groaner
Building, is simply preposterous and incidentally also harmful to the honourable
medical profession. Note also that the lettering efforts of this other artist are
of inferior quality to the clear, concise style of Dan Noonan.
Nils Lid Hjort
other day, and looked forward to some delightful minutes reading
"Donald Duck in the Firebug". I'm a fan of Dan Noonan, whose
work in e.g. "New Funnies" and "Animal Comics" is of high calibre,
and I believe "the Firebug" might be Noonan's best duck story ever.
Imagine then my surprise, frustration and irritation, when I saw
what I believe are the not entirely successful efforts of a quite different
artist to "repair" and post-edit Noonan's art and story line. Not only some
panels here and there, and some alterations of Dan's originally conceived
ingenious plot, but long sections, on many pages, seem to have fallen into
the hands of this other artist, for reasons incomprehensible to me. In fact
I believe nearly all of Noonan's original story and artwork have been
seriously affected by these strange and unmotivated editorial decisions.
Where are the allusions to Freudian-Jungian theories of dreams, that
Dan so masterfully put into his story? Gone with the winds of the editorial
office. Luckily Noonan's delightful ending of his story is at least kept
untouched and intact, including also some of his uniquely enjoyable prose
("I'll put cone-shaped blisters on your --" etc etc).
I must also say that in addition to the higher principles involved,
"though shalt not mess with another author's artwork" etc., and that
here are so blatantly broken, apparently without this having caused
the scandals and "sue you in the morning"s that I would have expected,
that some of the efforts of this unknown tinkering-with-others artist
leave me troubled. "A beeyootiful fire! I love fires!" etc etc is not
only disturbing, but orthographically incorrect. Pyromania of the piffledeck?
School of Quackery? What is this? The intended audience for all of this
is that of school children and readers of tender age and soft tinkerable souls.
"I must answer the call of the infernos!" Clearly Donald does not have
Dante Alighieri (1265-1321) in mind. Where is the Italian Embassy when
one needs it? And the bit about Doctor Carver Beakoff, Number 249 Groaner
Building, is simply preposterous and incidentally also harmful to the honourable
medical profession. Note also that the lettering efforts of this other artist are
of inferior quality to the clear, concise style of Dan Noonan.
Nils Lid Hjort
Rob Klein
Barks' 40s Editor
Message 216 -
2003-06-14 at 14:15:00
Thanks Timo, for the name of Barks' early-to-mid 1940s editor. It was, indeed,
eleanor Packer. You are probably correct, that they needed the story ending
change quickly (otherwise they would have had the original story artist make
the changes). That is probably also why they didn't worry about making the
replacement lettering the same size and style as that of the original story.
The new lettering was smaller, and more "squared". I assume that was the same
situation with "The Ghost of the Grotto", "The Horseradish story", and several
other situations in which the lettering is visibly different.
Rob
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eleanor Packer. You are probably correct, that they needed the story ending
change quickly (otherwise they would have had the original story artist make
the changes). That is probably also why they didn't worry about making the
replacement lettering the same size and style as that of the original story.
The new lettering was smaller, and more "squared". I assume that was the same
situation with "The Ghost of the Grotto", "The Horseradish story", and several
other situations in which the lettering is visibly different.
Rob
Klein
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
DCML archives are incomplete. Why?
Message 217 -
2003-06-14 at 16:45:16
(I think this email is intended for DCML. DvE, 14-06-2003.)
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Van: Kai Saarto <ksaarto at mbnet.fi>
Aan: Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
Onderwerp: Re: DCML archives are incomplete. Why?
Datum: zaterdag 14 juni 2003 9:14
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> I find the Disney Comics Mailing List very important.
> History has been written here. Stories were discussed before
> they were made. Stories were discussed after they were made,
> regularly with fresh answers from the creators themselves.
> Discoveries have been done. Information has been shared. Etc.
I must agree with Daniel here. As a historian with special interest in
Disney comics I find the absence of those five years a great personal
loss. If anyone has them somewhere, I'd love to be able to download them
for future reference.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
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Van: Kai Saarto <ksaarto at mbnet.fi>
Aan: Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
Onderwerp: Re: DCML archives are incomplete. Why?
Datum: zaterdag 14 juni 2003 9:14
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> I find the Disney Comics Mailing List very important.
> History has been written here. Stories were discussed before
> they were made. Stories were discussed after they were made,
> regularly with fresh answers from the creators themselves.
> Discoveries have been done. Information has been shared. Etc.
I must agree with Daniel here. As a historian with special interest in
Disney comics I find the absence of those five years a great personal
loss. If anyone has them somewhere, I'd love to be able to download them
for future reference.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Daniel Van Eijmeren
DCML archives are incomplete. Why?
Message 218 -
2003-06-14 at 16:55:55
KAI SAARTO to me, 14-06-2003:
> I must agree with Daniel here. As a historian with special interest
> in Disney comics I find the absence of those five years a great
> personal loss. If anyone has them somewhere, I'd love to be able to
> download them for future reference.
Just to be sure: I would like the see the archive online *permanently*.
Not only for individual download-requests.
There has been (at least) one other archive before, attempting to fill
the gap, but after a while it disappeared.
--- Dani?l
> I must agree with Daniel here. As a historian with special interest
> in Disney comics I find the absence of those five years a great
> personal loss. If anyone has them somewhere, I'd love to be able to
> download them for future reference.
Just to be sure: I would like the see the archive online *permanently*.
Not only for individual download-requests.
There has been (at least) one other archive before, attempting to fill
the gap, but after a while it disappeared.
--- Dani?l
David Gerstein
What is in the new Donald Duck Adventures pocket?
Message 219 -
2003-06-14 at 17:45:43
OLE:
>I wrote:
>> >Mickey Mouse: Panicking Pachyderm (D 2001-032) 37 pages, by
>> >McGreals?/Xavi
>> >Found in Danish Jumbo 270.
>
>David Gerstein replied:
>> This story is really written by Mark and Laura Shaw.
>
>Sorry, my mistake [...]
>At least I got Xavi right, I hope.
Oops. I'm afraid you didn't...
"Panicking Pachyderms" is written by Mark and Laura Shaw, and drawn by
J. Gonzalez.
Best, David
>I wrote:
>> >Mickey Mouse: Panicking Pachyderm (D 2001-032) 37 pages, by
>> >McGreals?/Xavi
>> >Found in Danish Jumbo 270.
>
>David Gerstein replied:
>> This story is really written by Mark and Laura Shaw.
>
>Sorry, my mistake [...]
>At least I got Xavi right, I hope.
Oops. I'm afraid you didn't...
"Panicking Pachyderms" is written by Mark and Laura Shaw, and drawn by
J. Gonzalez.
Best, David
Daniel Van Eijmeren
DCML Digest, Vol 4, Issue 23
Message 220 -
2003-06-14 at 20:51:52
NILS LID HJORT, 14-06-2003:
> Imagine then my surprise, frustration and irritation, when I saw
> what I believe are the not entirely successful efforts of a quite
> different artist to "repair" and post-edit Noonan's art and story line.
You're right! I didn't notice this before. Does the Dan Noonan Library
say anything about these changes? If so, which set and page-number? :-)
--- Dani?l
> Imagine then my surprise, frustration and irritation, when I saw
> what I believe are the not entirely successful efforts of a quite
> different artist to "repair" and post-edit Noonan's art and story line.
You're right! I didn't notice this before. Does the Dan Noonan Library
say anything about these changes? If so, which set and page-number? :-)
--- Dani?l
Arthur De Wolf
"The Return of the Disney Comic" in Disney Magazine
Message 221 -
2003-06-15 at 00:56:24
Hi,
The Summer 2003 issue of Disney Magazine from the USA features a 6-page
article on Disney comics. This is quite unusual as the magazine is usually
about everything Disney, except the comics.
The cover reads "The Return of the Disney Comic". The article is titled
"Comic Relief - The evolution of Disney comic books". The article contains
pictures of some of the first Disney comics, for instance Hoffman's Mickey
Mouse Magazine (US) of 1933, Mickey Mouse Weekly (UK) of 1936 with a cover
by Wilfred Haughton, a Musse Pigg Tidningen (Sweden) of 1938 and others. It
is mostly about the start of Disney comics around the world in the early
years. Unfortunately it doesn't say anything about the current popularity in
Europe.
About Sweden it says: "Musse Pigg Tidningen (Lively Mouse Magazine) began in
Sweden in 1932. It lasted only into the next year, with a total of 23
issues.". That may be true but if you don't know anything about it, it may
look like they haven't had any Disney comics in Sweden at all since 1933.
It is nice anyway that Disney advertises the new Gemstone comics in their
magazine. There is a half page announcing the new titles with images of the
covers of WDC and US.
Coincidentally there is also a question from someone in the "Ask Dave"
section ("Disney's archives director answers all your questions") of someone
asking for information about their wife's uncle, Tony Strobl. There is a
page shown of a Bucky Bug story from WDC #100.
Kind regards,
Arthur de Wolf
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
The Summer 2003 issue of Disney Magazine from the USA features a 6-page
article on Disney comics. This is quite unusual as the magazine is usually
about everything Disney, except the comics.
The cover reads "The Return of the Disney Comic". The article is titled
"Comic Relief - The evolution of Disney comic books". The article contains
pictures of some of the first Disney comics, for instance Hoffman's Mickey
Mouse Magazine (US) of 1933, Mickey Mouse Weekly (UK) of 1936 with a cover
by Wilfred Haughton, a Musse Pigg Tidningen (Sweden) of 1938 and others. It
is mostly about the start of Disney comics around the world in the early
years. Unfortunately it doesn't say anything about the current popularity in
Europe.
About Sweden it says: "Musse Pigg Tidningen (Lively Mouse Magazine) began in
Sweden in 1932. It lasted only into the next year, with a total of 23
issues.". That may be true but if you don't know anything about it, it may
look like they haven't had any Disney comics in Sweden at all since 1933.
It is nice anyway that Disney advertises the new Gemstone comics in their
magazine. There is a half page announcing the new titles with images of the
covers of WDC and US.
Coincidentally there is also a question from someone in the "Ask Dave"
section ("Disney's archives director answers all your questions") of someone
asking for information about their wife's uncle, Tony Strobl. There is a
page shown of a Bucky Bug story from WDC #100.
Kind regards,
Arthur de Wolf
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
Luca Boschi
Deleted Jail Panels
Message 222 -
2003-06-15 at 00:57:19
Hi, all, and Daniel expecially...
Well, thanks for involving me in this discussion...
It's true, from when I've seen the two panels for the first time, reading
that story reprinted into an old "Albo della Rosa", I think that Buettner
could be the *possible and logical* answer for this puzzle.
You quote...
>
> On 7 August 1998, Luca Boschi wrote: "I bet he has been Carl Von Buettner
> "art editor" at Western, a very clever artists. The same who redrew some
> Bugs Bunny's heads in Barks' "Porky of the Mounties". His art is very
> similar to that one showed on some covers SURELY drawn by him."
>
> Luca seems to have written an article about this in Zio Paperone #100,
> Italy. I'm curious for his opinion on this discussion.
Well, no. Maybe that in ZP # 100 I wrote one or two lines about, but not a
whole article, since ZP # 100 has not real articles inside, only an index,
with comments, about stories, covers and so on.
Surely, I think that it was a "rough" and quick, last-minute-work. If
actually Buettner got his holydays, or was ill, maybe he wasn't able to do
the job... And maybe also that Dan Noonan (I also like his art very much)
was passing thru there to bring Miss Packer some pages he made for another
comic book, so he was compelled to change the two panels before leaving.
Even if Buettner was a very clever artist in doing animal no-feathered
characters, I think he wasn't trained enough to draw ducks,even if some
covers by him are marvelous. But not all, IMHO.
In the meantime, often Dan Noonan made "fast art", full of personality, but
without being so careful in details. So, he can be a good candidate, too.
Honestly, I can't judge if the two panels were made by the first or by the
second.
> <GUESS>So, in June/July 1945, the editor saw yet another Disney comic
> jail ending, within two years - the second one within a month - and they
> decided that the stories were going into a wrong direction.
It makes sense.
Thank, bye,
Luca
Well, thanks for involving me in this discussion...
It's true, from when I've seen the two panels for the first time, reading
that story reprinted into an old "Albo della Rosa", I think that Buettner
could be the *possible and logical* answer for this puzzle.
You quote...
>
> On 7 August 1998, Luca Boschi wrote: "I bet he has been Carl Von Buettner
> "art editor" at Western, a very clever artists. The same who redrew some
> Bugs Bunny's heads in Barks' "Porky of the Mounties". His art is very
> similar to that one showed on some covers SURELY drawn by him."
>
> Luca seems to have written an article about this in Zio Paperone #100,
> Italy. I'm curious for his opinion on this discussion.
Well, no. Maybe that in ZP # 100 I wrote one or two lines about, but not a
whole article, since ZP # 100 has not real articles inside, only an index,
with comments, about stories, covers and so on.
Surely, I think that it was a "rough" and quick, last-minute-work. If
actually Buettner got his holydays, or was ill, maybe he wasn't able to do
the job... And maybe also that Dan Noonan (I also like his art very much)
was passing thru there to bring Miss Packer some pages he made for another
comic book, so he was compelled to change the two panels before leaving.
Even if Buettner was a very clever artist in doing animal no-feathered
characters, I think he wasn't trained enough to draw ducks,even if some
covers by him are marvelous. But not all, IMHO.
In the meantime, often Dan Noonan made "fast art", full of personality, but
without being so careful in details. So, he can be a good candidate, too.
Honestly, I can't judge if the two panels were made by the first or by the
second.
> <GUESS>So, in June/July 1945, the editor saw yet another Disney comic
> jail ending, within two years - the second one within a month - and they
> decided that the stories were going into a wrong direction.
It makes sense.
Thank, bye,
Luca
Arthur De Wolf
Ancient 'funny animal' comics in Egypt
Message 223 -
2003-06-15 at 01:11:47
Hi,
I was in Egypt earlier this year and visiting one temple after the other I
couldn't help but notice how much many of the ancient Egyptian wall carvings
looked like comic book stories. There were many walls full of stories where
people are talking to eachother in panels and the dialogues in hieroglyphs
were carved in between the people. All that was missing were the text
baloons.
The fact that many of the gods in these carvings had animal heads also made
it look a bit like Disney comics. Check out the picture of this man with the
head of a baboon that I took in the Temple of Edfu:
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/baboon.jpg
Kind regards,
Arthur de Wolf
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
I was in Egypt earlier this year and visiting one temple after the other I
couldn't help but notice how much many of the ancient Egyptian wall carvings
looked like comic book stories. There were many walls full of stories where
people are talking to eachother in panels and the dialogues in hieroglyphs
were carved in between the people. All that was missing were the text
baloons.
The fact that many of the gods in these carvings had animal heads also made
it look a bit like Disney comics. Check out the picture of this man with the
head of a baboon that I took in the Temple of Edfu:
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/baboon.jpg
Kind regards,
Arthur de Wolf
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
Carey Furlong
DCML Digest, Vol 4, Issue 23
Message 224 -
2003-06-15 at 03:18:15
"Daniel van Eijmeren" wrote:
> "Yessir! Thrift saves money, and money makes more money!
> You just can't beat my system!"
> - - - - - - -
>
> Too difficult? Then take this quote with a grain of ...
Took me a minute, but...
US 7: Billion Dollar Pigeon (Pigeonholed Millions), spoken by McDuck
in panel 1.6.
Now, how about this one:
"Oh, Boy! Oh, Boy! Look at'em dive! They're playing tag like school
kids!
;-)
Carey Furlong
> "Yessir! Thrift saves money, and money makes more money!
> You just can't beat my system!"
> - - - - - - -
>
> Too difficult? Then take this quote with a grain of ...
Took me a minute, but...
US 7: Billion Dollar Pigeon (Pigeonholed Millions), spoken by McDuck
in panel 1.6.
Now, how about this one:
"Oh, Boy! Oh, Boy! Look at'em dive! They're playing tag like school
kids!
;-)
Carey Furlong
Fabio Blanco
Ancient 'funny animal' comics in Egypt
Message 225 -
2003-06-15 at 10:22:09
Yes you know, I like carved comics... I prefer Karlbakis comics over
Disnesis shadows shows...
I love Ibis, Anubis, Apis and other holy animals comics... (ooops I am
hearing thunders?)
Indeed I am waiting the galley from north with the new Khemsthon sacred
texts...
by Hermes-Thot god of comics
and Promethea his holy daughter...
Bless all of you...
Pharao Fabio
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
> Hi,
>
> I was in Egypt earlier this year and visiting one temple after the other I
> couldn't help but notice how much many of the ancient Egyptian wall
carvings
> looked like comic book stories. There were many walls full of stories
where
> people are talking to eachother in panels and the dialogues in hieroglyphs
> were carved in between the people. All that was missing were the text
> baloons.
>
> The fact that many of the gods in these carvings had animal heads also
made
> it look a bit like Disney comics. Check out the picture of this man with
the
> head of a baboon that I took in the Temple of Edfu:
> http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/baboon.jpg
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Arthur de Wolf
> http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
Disnesis shadows shows...
I love Ibis, Anubis, Apis and other holy animals comics... (ooops I am
hearing thunders?)
Indeed I am waiting the galley from north with the new Khemsthon sacred
texts...
by Hermes-Thot god of comics
and Promethea his holy daughter...
Bless all of you...
Pharao Fabio
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
> Hi,
>
> I was in Egypt earlier this year and visiting one temple after the other I
> couldn't help but notice how much many of the ancient Egyptian wall
carvings
> looked like comic book stories. There were many walls full of stories
where
> people are talking to eachother in panels and the dialogues in hieroglyphs
> were carved in between the people. All that was missing were the text
> baloons.
>
> The fact that many of the gods in these carvings had animal heads also
made
> it look a bit like Disney comics. Check out the picture of this man with
the
> head of a baboon that I took in the Temple of Edfu:
> http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/baboon.jpg
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Arthur de Wolf
> http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>