STEFAN PERSSON to me, 25-06-2003:
>> The [non-Disney] files *can* be maintained independently.
> Er, how do you mean? The non-Disney comics are NOT in any
> non-Disney comic-specific files!
But it is easily *possible* to do that.
>> Technically it *is* possible to exclude the data in an Inducks
>> search. It may need some software-configuration, though.
> And some extra Inducks fields, indicating whether an item is Disney
> or non-Disney.
Multiple fields? I think a checkbox-option would be enough.
I've mentioned that in my first email about this subject.
See http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-June/023445.html
--- Dani?l
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Topic: 200306
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
Non-Disney indexing / Exceptional Barks
Message 346 -
2003-06-27 at 04:12:32
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Mickey Mouse in The Netherlands, 1931
Message 347 -
2003-06-27 at 04:38:15
In a private email, Rolf van de Kamer has sent me a scan of the dust-sleeve
of a Dutch translation of "The Adventures of Mickey Mouse", published by
Scheltens & Giltay. The Dutch translation is by J.H. Clinge Doorenbos.
Rolf thinks the book has been released around Sint Nicolaas 1931 (that's
a Dutch celebration in early December). No date is mentioned in the book.
http://www.tobia.nl/030626_mickey3101.bmp
(scan as sent to me, in BMP-format, 743 kB)
http://www.tobia.nl/030626_mickey3101.jpg
(BMP-format converted to JPEG, 91 kB)
Rolf also mentions that according to the article of expert Kees de Bree
in "Mickey Mouse - Vijftig Vrolijke Jaren" (pages 248/249), a Mickey-strip
has been announced in "Het Nieuws Van De Dag" in October 1931 (3 ? 4 panels
with text below).
This predates the Mickey I've seen in a non-Disney illustration by Herman
Nijgh, published in the December 24, 1931 Christmas-attachment of Dutch
newspaper "Leidsch Dagblad".
See http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-June/023465.html
--- Dani?l
of a Dutch translation of "The Adventures of Mickey Mouse", published by
Scheltens & Giltay. The Dutch translation is by J.H. Clinge Doorenbos.
Rolf thinks the book has been released around Sint Nicolaas 1931 (that's
a Dutch celebration in early December). No date is mentioned in the book.
http://www.tobia.nl/030626_mickey3101.bmp
(scan as sent to me, in BMP-format, 743 kB)
http://www.tobia.nl/030626_mickey3101.jpg
(BMP-format converted to JPEG, 91 kB)
Rolf also mentions that according to the article of expert Kees de Bree
in "Mickey Mouse - Vijftig Vrolijke Jaren" (pages 248/249), a Mickey-strip
has been announced in "Het Nieuws Van De Dag" in October 1931 (3 ? 4 panels
with text below).
This predates the Mickey I've seen in a non-Disney illustration by Herman
Nijgh, published in the December 24, 1931 Christmas-attachment of Dutch
newspaper "Leidsch Dagblad".
See http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-June/023465.html
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
P.S. (Non-Disney indexing / Exceptional Barks)
Message 348 -
2003-06-27 at 05:05:27
STEFAN PERSSON to me, 25-06-2003:
> And some extra Inducks fields, indicating whether an item is Disney
> or non-Disney.
And then I replied:
> Multiple fields? I think a checkbox-option would be enough.
On second thought, I think I misunderstood you. I was referring to the
interface. You seem to be referring to the input-files.
I think extra input-fields are unnecessary, because non-INDUCKS items
already have codes beginning with "Q".
--- Dani?l
> And some extra Inducks fields, indicating whether an item is Disney
> or non-Disney.
And then I replied:
> Multiple fields? I think a checkbox-option would be enough.
On second thought, I think I misunderstood you. I was referring to the
interface. You seem to be referring to the input-files.
I think extra input-fields are unnecessary, because non-INDUCKS items
already have codes beginning with "Q".
--- Dani?l
Gary Leach
DCML Digest, Vol 4, Issue 35
Message 349 -
2003-06-27 at 05:18:16
Hello all!
Although the difference isn't large, retailers did order more US #319
than WDCS #634. US has been the most popular Disney comics title in the
American direct market for quite some time, so this is no surprise.
If there seem to be "shortages" of any of our books at any retailers,
this is probably due to simple slip-ups in order fulfillment. Retailers
should contact Diamond if this seems to have occurred...and I hope they
do. But busy retailers who ordered just a couple of copies of US and/or
WDCS, and then did not receive them, may not put themselves to much
bother over that. (Other than making sure they aren't expected to pay
for them.)
For future reference: while both Gemstone and Diamond are owned and
overseen by Steve Geppi, each is otherwise independently operated. In a
nutshell, Diamond does not publish the Disney comics, and Gemstone does
not take and fulfill retail orders for Disney comics.
Gary
Although the difference isn't large, retailers did order more US #319
than WDCS #634. US has been the most popular Disney comics title in the
American direct market for quite some time, so this is no surprise.
If there seem to be "shortages" of any of our books at any retailers,
this is probably due to simple slip-ups in order fulfillment. Retailers
should contact Diamond if this seems to have occurred...and I hope they
do. But busy retailers who ordered just a couple of copies of US and/or
WDCS, and then did not receive them, may not put themselves to much
bother over that. (Other than making sure they aren't expected to pay
for them.)
For future reference: while both Gemstone and Diamond are owned and
overseen by Steve Geppi, each is otherwise independently operated. In a
nutshell, Diamond does not publish the Disney comics, and Gemstone does
not take and fulfill retail orders for Disney comics.
Gary
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks trivia and quotes quiz
Message 350 -
2003-06-27 at 06:19:13
BLAIR FRODELIUS, 29-04-2003:
> My kids are hooked on the Barks Disney comics, and we often test
> each other's knowledge of Bark's stories. Can anyone tell me if
> there are any online trivia questions for these stories? I'm
> running out of good questions. :)
In the wild colt story (WDC 59), Donald is hypnotized by a colt.
Can you mention at least four other Barks stories with hypnotism?
NILS KLARTEKST, 17-06-2003:
> Anyone who solves this [quote] receives a free membership in the
> CLUB for human search engines.
I already have a membership of another club.
I'm member 404 of the File Not Found Foundation.
I can't show my member card, though. (I don't know where it is.)
Here are three remaining undiscovered Barks quotes:
- "THIS is getting monotonous!"
- "SCRAMBLED EGGS, anyone? Hee, hee!"
- "All things come to him who sits and waits! That's my slogan!"
--- Dani?l
> My kids are hooked on the Barks Disney comics, and we often test
> each other's knowledge of Bark's stories. Can anyone tell me if
> there are any online trivia questions for these stories? I'm
> running out of good questions. :)
In the wild colt story (WDC 59), Donald is hypnotized by a colt.
Can you mention at least four other Barks stories with hypnotism?
NILS KLARTEKST, 17-06-2003:
> Anyone who solves this [quote] receives a free membership in the
> CLUB for human search engines.
I already have a membership of another club.
I'm member 404 of the File Not Found Foundation.
I can't show my member card, though. (I don't know where it is.)
Here are three remaining undiscovered Barks quotes:
- "THIS is getting monotonous!"
- "SCRAMBLED EGGS, anyone? Hee, hee!"
- "All things come to him who sits and waits! That's my slogan!"
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Marko Leppala
Message 351 -
2003-06-27 at 06:31:55
Can someone give me a valid email address of Marko Leppala?
--- Dani?l
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Answer to old quote quiz
Message 352 -
2003-06-27 at 06:48:54
LARS JENSEN to me, 02-06-2003:
>> "Glory be! Then it's okay to whale the blazes out of 'em - if
>> I do it with a SMILE!"
> Could this be from "Donald Tames His Temper" (WDC 64)?
Yes, that's the right story.
--- Dani?l
>> "Glory be! Then it's okay to whale the blazes out of 'em - if
>> I do it with a SMILE!"
> Could this be from "Donald Tames His Temper" (WDC 64)?
Yes, that's the right story.
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Madame Mim (comment to ancient discussion)
Message 353 -
2003-06-27 at 07:59:08
FRANCOIS WILLOT to GILLES MAURICE, 05-03-2003:
> Moby [Duck] represents Kay Wright's & Gil-Bao's style to me. He
> is like Madame Mim. A no-character, a ghost, a zombie, a nobody.
> I'm surprised you like him so much... He disappeared long before
> I bought my first comics, and you are younger than me.
I don't know Moby, but IMO there are some great stories with Madame Mim.
A recent creator who IMO writes remarkable Mim-stories, is Frank Jonker.
Some of his Mim-stories are inspired by a (partly erased) Dutch 1970s
children television series titled "Kunt u mij de weg naar Hamelen
vertellen, mijnheer?" This series had a typical, magical atmosphere.
Here are two Mim-stories which I like very much:
Vader Tijd (H 99130, 4 pages)
Written by Frank Jonker, art by Jos? Ramon Bernad?.
This story is about visiting Father Time. Father Time is not at home
and Mim screws up his workroom by turning the time back and forth.
A zany joke that really got me laughing out loud for minutes, was the
special, difficult, magic abracadabra used by Father Time, in order to
restore Mim's mess. In fact, these words are directly taken from the
opening tune of a Dutch television soap titled "Goede Tijden Slechte
Tijden" ("Good Times Bad Times"). It's hard to explain what got me
laughing. I just found it hilarious to see Father Time standing in an
all-mighty pose, with a big magic wand, suddenly reciting the lyrics
of a dull soap tune.
Geest in de put (H 22120, 2 pages)
Written by Frank Jonker and Paul Hoogma, art by Jos? Ramon Bernad?.
This story may be hard to translate. Mim has to cheer up a ghost on
the bottom of a well. This is one of the best gag-stories I've ever
read. The story is about (lame) jokes, with a great overall effect.
In Dutch, being on the bottom of a well (being "in de put") means
being unhappy/depressed. In this story, the saying is visualized with
a grumpy wishing well. If you manage to cheer up this grumphy wishing
well, it grants you a wish. (Mim wants to be the most beautiful witch
of the Witch Ball, so that's why she consults the wishing well.)
I think Bernad? has a great feeling for the Mim-stories. Even though I
cannot really explain the two stories I just mentioned, the artwork
alone will already be very convincing.
--- Dani?l
> Moby [Duck] represents Kay Wright's & Gil-Bao's style to me. He
> is like Madame Mim. A no-character, a ghost, a zombie, a nobody.
> I'm surprised you like him so much... He disappeared long before
> I bought my first comics, and you are younger than me.
I don't know Moby, but IMO there are some great stories with Madame Mim.
A recent creator who IMO writes remarkable Mim-stories, is Frank Jonker.
Some of his Mim-stories are inspired by a (partly erased) Dutch 1970s
children television series titled "Kunt u mij de weg naar Hamelen
vertellen, mijnheer?" This series had a typical, magical atmosphere.
Here are two Mim-stories which I like very much:
Vader Tijd (H 99130, 4 pages)
Written by Frank Jonker, art by Jos? Ramon Bernad?.
This story is about visiting Father Time. Father Time is not at home
and Mim screws up his workroom by turning the time back and forth.
A zany joke that really got me laughing out loud for minutes, was the
special, difficult, magic abracadabra used by Father Time, in order to
restore Mim's mess. In fact, these words are directly taken from the
opening tune of a Dutch television soap titled "Goede Tijden Slechte
Tijden" ("Good Times Bad Times"). It's hard to explain what got me
laughing. I just found it hilarious to see Father Time standing in an
all-mighty pose, with a big magic wand, suddenly reciting the lyrics
of a dull soap tune.
Geest in de put (H 22120, 2 pages)
Written by Frank Jonker and Paul Hoogma, art by Jos? Ramon Bernad?.
This story may be hard to translate. Mim has to cheer up a ghost on
the bottom of a well. This is one of the best gag-stories I've ever
read. The story is about (lame) jokes, with a great overall effect.
In Dutch, being on the bottom of a well (being "in de put") means
being unhappy/depressed. In this story, the saying is visualized with
a grumpy wishing well. If you manage to cheer up this grumphy wishing
well, it grants you a wish. (Mim wants to be the most beautiful witch
of the Witch Ball, so that's why she consults the wishing well.)
I think Bernad? has a great feeling for the Mim-stories. Even though I
cannot really explain the two stories I just mentioned, the artwork
alone will already be very convincing.
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
P.S. (Madame Mim (comment to ancient discussion))
Message 354 -
2003-06-27 at 08:13:02
I wrote "05-03-2003", but I meant "O5-03-2002".
That's a year earlier.
--- Dani?l
That's a year earlier.
--- Dani?l
Dan Rosenberg
New Gemstone Issues
Message 355 -
2003-06-27 at 08:34:23
My comic shop in Oakland, CA carried both titles. Loved 'em! Don Rosa: Great story. One question about the depiction of you and your wife as hikers: I noticed you didn't draw yourself with a dog nose. Any particular reason?
I liked what the Van Horn's had to offer as well as Vicar and many others. Good start. -Dan
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Moby Duck, Mad Madam Mim and others
Message 356 -
2003-06-27 at 08:55:16
Like Daniel, I am also a fan of Mad Madam Mim. While I can't speak for all
of her story presentations, I liked the ones I saw which presented her and
Magica as Castle-mates. Of course, her famous (or is that "infamous"?)
bout with Merlin from the Disney feature film is a classic! She's an odd
sort of person, but she's a witch, so it suits her. She's also one of the
few "human" (i.e., non-anthropomorphic) characters that seems to have
meshed well with the Duck & Mouse universes, though I'm not sure how much
she interacts with Ducks or Mouses these days. (As an aside, I think Ranger
Woodlore and the Red Fly do alright in the anthropomorphic world of Donald
& Mickey).
As for Moby, I grew up with his comics so I have fond memories of his and
others from that era. Moby was probably not used as best as he could be
all the time, but he (and to a lesser extent, Dim-Witty) might still find
some usefulness in modern Duck society. I realize he has (had?) a series
(Day Chronicles) which featured him recently, but I never got to read it so
I'm not sure if I would have liked it (especially since it was removed from
Duckburg in general). I prefer he interacted with other known characters
from time-to-time.
Ludwig Von Drake is another favorite of mine whom "I" have not seen much of
lately. From reading the DCML I gather he, too, is not appearing much
these days in other countries' publications, either.
Other characters I miss include Clara Cluck, Launchpad & Webby, Gizmoduck,
Eega Beeva, Fifi, Tanglefoot, Butch (the bulldog), Bruto, Melody, Panchito,
Humphrey the Bear, Percy & Patricia, Atomino Bip-Bip & Disney Babies!
Except for the recent Rosa story featuring Panchito, I wonder if he will
return to obscurity again? This would be sad since Panchito is such a
great character! I would love to see more stories featuring him as well as
the Aracuan. I'm probably in the minority with many of these characters
here.
Thanks to China, I have had the privledge of seeing comics which include
Ellsworth, Fethry, Horace, Clarabelle, Morty & Ferdie, Cousin Bertie Cow
and many others I like, as well as the regulars like Mickey, Goofy &
Scrooge. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the Gemstones when I
return to the USA.
One of my hobbies is collecting PVCs of my favorite characters. My
collection includes Mickey, Minnie, Scrooge, Donald, Daisy, Launchpad,
Webby, three Beagle Boys, Clarabelle, Pluto, Goofy, Figaro, Max, Bad Pete,
Huey, Dewey & Louie, Big Bad Wolf, Li'l Bad Wolf, the Three Pigs, Br'er
Bear, Fox & Rabbit, Chief O'Hara, Prof. Doublex, Bonkers, Disney Babies
(including Pete) and so many others that are a bit too small to stand next
to these (like Magica, Gyro, Gladstone, Grandma Duck, Horace, Cousin Gus,
P.J., Phantom Blot, etc.). Thanks to the Japanese toy company Tomy, there
is a new line of articulated characters that are now available with more in
the future. They have a fantastic set of the Three Caballeros! I hope
they manage to make one of Scrooge and other favorites of mine in the near
future as these all tend to be a near perfect match in size to the
collection I have going. I hope one day soon they make a Clara Cluck, (a
better)Clarabelle, Horace, Humphrey, Ranger, Fifi, Butch & Ludwig figure so
I can add them, too.
Ah, well, I can see I started rambling again...
Zai jian, Rich Bellacera
xephyr at cwnet.com
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of her story presentations, I liked the ones I saw which presented her and
Magica as Castle-mates. Of course, her famous (or is that "infamous"?)
bout with Merlin from the Disney feature film is a classic! She's an odd
sort of person, but she's a witch, so it suits her. She's also one of the
few "human" (i.e., non-anthropomorphic) characters that seems to have
meshed well with the Duck & Mouse universes, though I'm not sure how much
she interacts with Ducks or Mouses these days. (As an aside, I think Ranger
Woodlore and the Red Fly do alright in the anthropomorphic world of Donald
& Mickey).
As for Moby, I grew up with his comics so I have fond memories of his and
others from that era. Moby was probably not used as best as he could be
all the time, but he (and to a lesser extent, Dim-Witty) might still find
some usefulness in modern Duck society. I realize he has (had?) a series
(Day Chronicles) which featured him recently, but I never got to read it so
I'm not sure if I would have liked it (especially since it was removed from
Duckburg in general). I prefer he interacted with other known characters
from time-to-time.
Ludwig Von Drake is another favorite of mine whom "I" have not seen much of
lately. From reading the DCML I gather he, too, is not appearing much
these days in other countries' publications, either.
Other characters I miss include Clara Cluck, Launchpad & Webby, Gizmoduck,
Eega Beeva, Fifi, Tanglefoot, Butch (the bulldog), Bruto, Melody, Panchito,
Humphrey the Bear, Percy & Patricia, Atomino Bip-Bip & Disney Babies!
Except for the recent Rosa story featuring Panchito, I wonder if he will
return to obscurity again? This would be sad since Panchito is such a
great character! I would love to see more stories featuring him as well as
the Aracuan. I'm probably in the minority with many of these characters
here.
Thanks to China, I have had the privledge of seeing comics which include
Ellsworth, Fethry, Horace, Clarabelle, Morty & Ferdie, Cousin Bertie Cow
and many others I like, as well as the regulars like Mickey, Goofy &
Scrooge. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the Gemstones when I
return to the USA.
One of my hobbies is collecting PVCs of my favorite characters. My
collection includes Mickey, Minnie, Scrooge, Donald, Daisy, Launchpad,
Webby, three Beagle Boys, Clarabelle, Pluto, Goofy, Figaro, Max, Bad Pete,
Huey, Dewey & Louie, Big Bad Wolf, Li'l Bad Wolf, the Three Pigs, Br'er
Bear, Fox & Rabbit, Chief O'Hara, Prof. Doublex, Bonkers, Disney Babies
(including Pete) and so many others that are a bit too small to stand next
to these (like Magica, Gyro, Gladstone, Grandma Duck, Horace, Cousin Gus,
P.J., Phantom Blot, etc.). Thanks to the Japanese toy company Tomy, there
is a new line of articulated characters that are now available with more in
the future. They have a fantastic set of the Three Caballeros! I hope
they manage to make one of Scrooge and other favorites of mine in the near
future as these all tend to be a near perfect match in size to the
collection I have going. I hope one day soon they make a Clara Cluck, (a
better)Clarabelle, Horace, Humphrey, Ranger, Fifi, Butch & Ludwig figure so
I can add them, too.
Ah, well, I can see I started rambling again...
Zai jian, Rich Bellacera
xephyr at cwnet.com
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Storycodes in Gemstone's new issues?
Message 357 -
2003-06-27 at 09:15:26
As it will be a few months before I get to finally read the new Gemstones
books (I have my local Comic Shop Guy holding them for me until I return
from China again), and having just recently picked up the Free "Maharajah
Donald" offering, I'm curious how Gemstone is handling storycodes? I mean,
I noticed in Maharajah Donald & the second story, they listed the
"original" printings of both of those stories. Of course, both were
originally printed in the USA. However, with many of the new stories
presented in Uncle Scrooge, WDC&S and the other three titles, their
original printings will have been outside of the USA. I noticed neither
story in Maharajah Donald included a "storycode" on the first page/panel of
the comics so I'm wondering how Gemstone is handling such identification
for non-USA original printings?
I might be in the minority, but I am curious about where these comics first
appeared, and the storycodes are a great way to search out other printings
of them as well (using the INDUCKS).
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
xephyr at cwnet.com
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books (I have my local Comic Shop Guy holding them for me until I return
from China again), and having just recently picked up the Free "Maharajah
Donald" offering, I'm curious how Gemstone is handling storycodes? I mean,
I noticed in Maharajah Donald & the second story, they listed the
"original" printings of both of those stories. Of course, both were
originally printed in the USA. However, with many of the new stories
presented in Uncle Scrooge, WDC&S and the other three titles, their
original printings will have been outside of the USA. I noticed neither
story in Maharajah Donald included a "storycode" on the first page/panel of
the comics so I'm wondering how Gemstone is handling such identification
for non-USA original printings?
I might be in the minority, but I am curious about where these comics first
appeared, and the storycodes are a great way to search out other printings
of them as well (using the INDUCKS).
Thanks,
Rich Bellacera
xephyr at cwnet.com
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Gemstones
Message 358 -
2003-06-27 at 09:37:47
Joe wrote:
>Please note that I PRE-ORDERED these through Diamond's
>PREVIEWS catalogue.
I also recommend purchasing a copy of Previews, which
lists -all- of the new releases three months in advance.
You can then ask your comic shop to order the items that
you want.
Alternatively, you can check Westfield's web site
(http://www.westfieldcomics.com). It lists the same
items as Previews.
Best,
Eric
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>Please note that I PRE-ORDERED these through Diamond's
>PREVIEWS catalogue.
I also recommend purchasing a copy of Previews, which
lists -all- of the new releases three months in advance.
You can then ask your comic shop to order the items that
you want.
Alternatively, you can check Westfield's web site
(http://www.westfieldcomics.com). It lists the same
items as Previews.
Best,
Eric
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Q[u]estion [a]bout Back To The Klo[n]dike
Message 359 -
2003-06-27 at 10:38:29
Pekka Timonen
Gemstones
Message 360 -
2003-06-27 at 10:41:50
> I also recommend purchasing a copy of Previews, which lists
> -all- of the new releases three months in advance.
> You can then ask your comic shop to order the items that you want.
>
> Alternatively, you can check Westfield's web site
> (http://www.westfieldcomics.com). It lists the same items as
> Previews.
>
Or you can do as I do: Go directly to the Diamond's Previews web site
(http://previews.diamondcomics.com/orderform/orderform.html) and make an
order list which you then take/email to your favorite comic book store.
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> -all- of the new releases three months in advance.
> You can then ask your comic shop to order the items that you want.
>
> Alternatively, you can check Westfield's web site
> (http://www.westfieldcomics.com). It lists the same items as
> Previews.
>
Or you can do as I do: Go directly to the Diamond's Previews web site
(http://previews.diamondcomics.com/orderform/orderform.html) and make an
order list which you then take/email to your favorite comic book store.
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