Hi!
Santiago:
>> >>1/ "Donald, come ove rhere! I've got the world by its tail, and it's
too BIG
>> >> to handle alone!"
>>The Fabulous Philosopher's Stone
Already answered by Dani?l, but right nonetheless.
>> >>2/ "Uncle Scrooge, you rope us ducks ino some of the GOSHAWFULEST
deals!"
>> The Great Steamboat Race
Right!
The ping-pong ball clue too obviously pointed at the sunken yacht story; it
was actually a tricky reference to the other story where they salvage a ship
the same way, with tires instead of ping-pong balls.
I read the "rival beachcombers" story (WDC&S 103, April 1949; WDC&S Album
15) again yesterday.
One thing always puzzles me: why would Gladstone be the ducks' chauffeur at
the end? There's no mention of such a wager.
A very good story, with an intriguing ending.
The ducks luck out of their predicament; Gladstone does not get the gem,
and thus loses the challenge, but he does not exactly loses; it's this
chauffeur-wager ending that makes him the loser.
Gladstone's luck in this story serves the ducks, finding the gem for them;
he does not find it because he is unlucky but by sheer laziness-- he only
had to fish it out of the dune. The only unlucky event in his case is the
policemen's arrival; has they not come, the ducks would have finished the
job and he would have gotten $9000.
Yet I'm no sure whether it's enough to say he has been unlucky. Rather, he
does not do anything to use his luck. There surely are lots of hidden
treasures of all sorts wherever he goes (lost wallets, coins, bills, rings,
...), waiting for him to pick up; he may pick one, but "leaves" the others.
The Maharajah's gem is just one of those many treasures he does not make
the effort of looking for and picking up, because he does not need it.
Olivier
Author
Topic: 200306
(426 messages)
Olivier
More Barks quizes (Olivier-- answers) / Rival Beachcombers
Message 421 -
2003-06-30 at 12:23:09
Arie Fachrisal
MM coloring bok
Message 422 -
2003-06-30 at 18:47:07
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2180010725&category=65
Hi,
can anyone give me more infos about this item? I like to browse a bit
sometimes in eBay and this one particular book kinda intrigue me since (to
me) it doesnt have the same hype/buzz like the original DD Maharajah Donald
original giveaway. Yet it was able to reach quite a high price for a
coloring book. Not being in a country where collectibles are regarded very
valuable, such phenomena i cant quite follow/understand. If u ask me, i
still cant follow/understand why the DD giveaway was THAT high-priced. I
mean reprints are way way better and economical for me. Perhaps it's the
nostalgic value or the nominal value people/comic shops hype about.
Which kinda makes me want to express an opinion about a well-discussed
issue. It's about comic industry in US and non-US.
I think it's a good move for Gemstone to target the mainstream as their
readers rather than only a bunch of collectors. True, the quality of the
books will differ than those aimed for collectibility but Gemstone already
making a mag that imho fits both worlds. It is suitable to grab up and read
by anyone and the extra infos/articles is good enough for the Disney Comics
die-hards. The only thing that stands as an obstacle is of course the price.
$6.95 price may be seemed high in a comic industry filled with superheroes
comics which priced at $2.95, sometimes lower.
I cant do anything but wish the best for Gemstone so that their new line of
much economical issues will be able to captivate the children of US into
their regular readership.
The Disney Comics situation in my country is also similar to Scandinavia.
The comics are made and distributed for mainstream market, which is good in
some ways. The comics industry here is also geared towards mainstream comics
instead of collectible comics. Collectible comics can only be enjoyed by
people of higher economy class, while the mainstream comics can reach nearly
ALL economy class. To me, this is the deciding factor if one should sell
comics.
It is true like Olaf said that the quality of such books are quite low
(seeing from a collector's point of view). But to the children, they will
have a blast no matter a serious article about Barks is in there or not.
Later on, they'll grow up and a certain amount of em growing up will
evetually come back and check for all infos about their favorite comic
artists (eventually grow to be like the lot of us here who subscribed to the
DCML) ;-)
ANd good thing, eventually the mainstream-mags will increase their quality
over time, though somewhat very slow. 20 years ago, who draw what duck
stories are hardly unheard of/publicized in Indonesia. Now, slight mentions
of Barks and Rosa has been put in the local Disney mags articles, along with
the names of Block, Jippes, Taliaferro, etc. Too bad they havent mention
anything about the mouse-artists such as Gottfredson and Feriolli.
Well, lastly... Go go Gemstone. Make it so the Disney Comics will be widely
read again in US and a whole new legion/generation of duck/mouse fans will
certainly join us in this list within a couple of decades :-D
Best regards,
Arie Fachrisal who just practiced (or issit malpracticed?) flipism today to
decide a "hard" decision :-D
Hi,
can anyone give me more infos about this item? I like to browse a bit
sometimes in eBay and this one particular book kinda intrigue me since (to
me) it doesnt have the same hype/buzz like the original DD Maharajah Donald
original giveaway. Yet it was able to reach quite a high price for a
coloring book. Not being in a country where collectibles are regarded very
valuable, such phenomena i cant quite follow/understand. If u ask me, i
still cant follow/understand why the DD giveaway was THAT high-priced. I
mean reprints are way way better and economical for me. Perhaps it's the
nostalgic value or the nominal value people/comic shops hype about.
Which kinda makes me want to express an opinion about a well-discussed
issue. It's about comic industry in US and non-US.
I think it's a good move for Gemstone to target the mainstream as their
readers rather than only a bunch of collectors. True, the quality of the
books will differ than those aimed for collectibility but Gemstone already
making a mag that imho fits both worlds. It is suitable to grab up and read
by anyone and the extra infos/articles is good enough for the Disney Comics
die-hards. The only thing that stands as an obstacle is of course the price.
$6.95 price may be seemed high in a comic industry filled with superheroes
comics which priced at $2.95, sometimes lower.
I cant do anything but wish the best for Gemstone so that their new line of
much economical issues will be able to captivate the children of US into
their regular readership.
The Disney Comics situation in my country is also similar to Scandinavia.
The comics are made and distributed for mainstream market, which is good in
some ways. The comics industry here is also geared towards mainstream comics
instead of collectible comics. Collectible comics can only be enjoyed by
people of higher economy class, while the mainstream comics can reach nearly
ALL economy class. To me, this is the deciding factor if one should sell
comics.
It is true like Olaf said that the quality of such books are quite low
(seeing from a collector's point of view). But to the children, they will
have a blast no matter a serious article about Barks is in there or not.
Later on, they'll grow up and a certain amount of em growing up will
evetually come back and check for all infos about their favorite comic
artists (eventually grow to be like the lot of us here who subscribed to the
DCML) ;-)
ANd good thing, eventually the mainstream-mags will increase their quality
over time, though somewhat very slow. 20 years ago, who draw what duck
stories are hardly unheard of/publicized in Indonesia. Now, slight mentions
of Barks and Rosa has been put in the local Disney mags articles, along with
the names of Block, Jippes, Taliaferro, etc. Too bad they havent mention
anything about the mouse-artists such as Gottfredson and Feriolli.
Well, lastly... Go go Gemstone. Make it so the Disney Comics will be widely
read again in US and a whole new legion/generation of duck/mouse fans will
certainly join us in this list within a couple of decades :-D
Best regards,
Arie Fachrisal who just practiced (or issit malpracticed?) flipism today to
decide a "hard" decision :-D
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks's "new" Daisy (DCML digest, Vol 1 #566)
Message 423 -
2003-06-30 at 19:17:37
HALSTEN AASTEBOL to MARCO BARLOTTI, 12-06-2001:
>> The story W WDC 308-06 "The Beauty Business" ends with Donald
>> "creating" whith his beauty business a new Daisy. As a sort of
>> continuity, Daisy keeps the same look in the last stories written
>> and drawn by Barks in which she appears:
>> W WDC 312-01 "The Not-so-ancient Mariner" and W US 68-02 "Hall of
>> the Mermaid Queen". Maybe Barks wanted to leave us with a "modern"
>> Daisy, who knows?
> I've read somewhere that the editors wanted Barks to modernize Daisy
> and include her as title character in order to appeal to girls of the
> late 1960s. This was one of the efforts to try stop the drop in sales
> figures, thinking that if they could get just as many girls as boys
> to buy Disney comics they would sell a lot more. Of course it was a
> fiasco. Even more boys stopped buying them, and no girls started. At
> least this is what I think about this particular question. It would
> take a lot more than a simple (and silly) shift like this to reverse
> the general trend of dropping sales figures for American Disney comics
> in the sixties.
Halsten, your information sounds very interesting.
Do you (or others) remember the exact origin of this information?
And do you (or others) know more information about this subject?
--- Dani?l
>> The story W WDC 308-06 "The Beauty Business" ends with Donald
>> "creating" whith his beauty business a new Daisy. As a sort of
>> continuity, Daisy keeps the same look in the last stories written
>> and drawn by Barks in which she appears:
>> W WDC 312-01 "The Not-so-ancient Mariner" and W US 68-02 "Hall of
>> the Mermaid Queen". Maybe Barks wanted to leave us with a "modern"
>> Daisy, who knows?
> I've read somewhere that the editors wanted Barks to modernize Daisy
> and include her as title character in order to appeal to girls of the
> late 1960s. This was one of the efforts to try stop the drop in sales
> figures, thinking that if they could get just as many girls as boys
> to buy Disney comics they would sell a lot more. Of course it was a
> fiasco. Even more boys stopped buying them, and no girls started. At
> least this is what I think about this particular question. It would
> take a lot more than a simple (and silly) shift like this to reverse
> the general trend of dropping sales figures for American Disney comics
> in the sixties.
Halsten, your information sounds very interesting.
Do you (or others) remember the exact origin of this information?
And do you (or others) know more information about this subject?
--- Dani?l
Lars Jensen
Manrique (was YAHOO! (delayed in Finnish weekly))
Message 424 -
2003-06-30 at 21:17:47
Simo Malinen wrote:
> Two weeks ago there was a Manrique story (Ferioli-style Duck-artist)
In some cases where Manrique is named as the sole artist of a story, it
is in fact Manrique working from Ferioli's layouts.
Lars
> Two weeks ago there was a Manrique story (Ferioli-style Duck-artist)
In some cases where Manrique is named as the sole artist of a story, it
is in fact Manrique working from Ferioli's layouts.
Lars
Lars Jensen
Moby Duck, Mad Madam Mim and others
Message 425 -
2003-06-30 at 21:23:39
Rich Bellacera rambled:
> Like Daniel, I am also a fan of Mad Madam Mim. While I can't speak
> for all of her story presentations, I liked the ones I saw which
> presented her and Magica as Castle-mates.
Argh! In my opinion, most of those stories are awful. Several funny
moments, but on the whole, they leave me with the questions: "Why would
Magica and Mim want to live with each other? Why would either want to
live in a run-down castle? And why would Mim be interested in stealing
Scrooge's Dime?"
The answer, of course, is that Mim and Magica are both portrayed
horribly out of character. Argh!
> I'm not sure how much [Madam Mim] interacts with Ducks or Mouses these
> days.
At Egmont, she currently appears on her own, without other Duckburg
characters. The Dutch haven't used her lately with other Duckburg
characters either, but they (and Egmont) once in awhile reprint older
stories where they're together.
> Moby was probably not used as best as he could be all the time, but he
> (and to a lesser extent, Dim-Witty) might still find some usefulness
> in modern Duck society.
Agreed. Moby has *lots* of potential! And Dim-Witty has some potential,
too.
> Other characters I miss include Clara Cluck, Launchpad & Webby,
> Gizmoduck, Eega Beeva,
Eega Beeva appears in Danish Mickey Mouse stories from time to time.
> Fifi, Tanglefoot, Butch (the bulldog), Bruto, Melody, Panchito,
> Humphrey the Bear, Percy & Patricia,
You miss Percy and Patricia Pig(g)?! Exactly which characteristic of
theirs is it you want to see more of, Rich? :-)
Lars
> Like Daniel, I am also a fan of Mad Madam Mim. While I can't speak
> for all of her story presentations, I liked the ones I saw which
> presented her and Magica as Castle-mates.
Argh! In my opinion, most of those stories are awful. Several funny
moments, but on the whole, they leave me with the questions: "Why would
Magica and Mim want to live with each other? Why would either want to
live in a run-down castle? And why would Mim be interested in stealing
Scrooge's Dime?"
The answer, of course, is that Mim and Magica are both portrayed
horribly out of character. Argh!
> I'm not sure how much [Madam Mim] interacts with Ducks or Mouses these
> days.
At Egmont, she currently appears on her own, without other Duckburg
characters. The Dutch haven't used her lately with other Duckburg
characters either, but they (and Egmont) once in awhile reprint older
stories where they're together.
> Moby was probably not used as best as he could be all the time, but he
> (and to a lesser extent, Dim-Witty) might still find some usefulness
> in modern Duck society.
Agreed. Moby has *lots* of potential! And Dim-Witty has some potential,
too.
> Other characters I miss include Clara Cluck, Launchpad & Webby,
> Gizmoduck, Eega Beeva,
Eega Beeva appears in Danish Mickey Mouse stories from time to time.
> Fifi, Tanglefoot, Butch (the bulldog), Bruto, Melody, Panchito,
> Humphrey the Bear, Percy & Patricia,
You miss Percy and Patricia Pig(g)?! Exactly which characteristic of
theirs is it you want to see more of, Rich? :-)
Lars
Stefan Persson
Eega Beeva (was: Moby Duck, Mad Madam Mim and others)
Message 426 -
2003-06-30 at 23:56:45
>From: "Lars Jensen" <lpj at forfatter.dk>
>To: "Disney Comics Mailing List" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: Moby Duck, Mad Madam Mim and others
>Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:23:39 +0200
>Eega Beeva appears in Danish Mickey Mouse stories from time to time.
And also in various Italian Mickey Mouse stories. In the Italian stories he
is usually considered an alien, as opposed to Gottfredson's stories, where
Eega is a man from the future. Does anyone know why the Italians changed
that?
Stefan
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>Subject: Moby Duck, Mad Madam Mim and others
>Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:23:39 +0200
>Eega Beeva appears in Danish Mickey Mouse stories from time to time.
And also in various Italian Mickey Mouse stories. In the Italian stories he
is usually considered an alien, as opposed to Gottfredson's stories, where
Eega is a man from the future. Does anyone know why the Italians changed
that?
Stefan
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