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>From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: Non-Disney indexing / Exceptional Barks
>Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:52:46 +0200

>The non-Disney INDUCKS-formatted files are maintained independently and
>voluntarily.

Nope. The data is put in the same files as the Disney stuff. And it's
considered part of Inducks. And it's not possible to exclude the items in
an Inducks search.

Stefan

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(I sent this as a private email, but it was intended for DCML.)

MACIEK KUR to me, 25-06-2003:

>> Was Barks the creator of Scrooge's *lucky* dime?
>> In which story does the lucky dime appear for the first time?

> Acording to http://duckman.pettho.com/characters/characters.html
> In The Round Money Bin.

Yes, and also according to my email. :-) I asked something else.
What I mean is the *LUCK* that is attributed to the dime.
Did Carl Barks originate that luck, or was it somebody else?

> I have one Qestion obout the Dime. In "Lo$ 12" The Beagle Boys
> (not Magica de Spell) stell Scrooge Dime bicous Blackheart Beagle
> was thinking it will bring hime Luck and made him rich. Did somwon
> now some other storie's in wich The Beagle Boys (not Magica de Spell)
> stell Scrooge 1# Dime bicous some reasons.

"From Dime to Dime" (D/D 2001-004). Scripted by Geoffrey Blum, based on
a story idea by Barks. The idea is taken from an April 1991 letter from
Barks to Don Rosa. Maybe Don Rosa based Blackheart Beagle's thoughts on
that letter, too. I don't know.

For more information on "From Dime to Dime", see my recent email about
this story. It can be found at:
"http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-June/023412.html"

--- Dani?l

OLAF:
>WOPPEEE!!! I'm now officially a published Disney comics writer!
>

Congratulations!

>...and would terribly love your feedback on my first story (D/D 2001-013),
>for those of you who's read it. Out in Scandinavia in the weeklies this
>week
>(26) - out in Norway TODAY.
>

Eer.. but apparently it looks like the Finnish weekly
Aku Ankka decided not to publish your story - atleast
in number AA2003-26.

Since the Finnish weekly is not a direct copy of
it's Swedish/Danish siblings (has less pages), it's
editors are making selections about the stories
to be published.

Usually the first leading stories go directly to our
weekly (with exeptions though). This week we had Vicar's
12-pager (D 2001-118) written by Janet Gilbert
(stunning art, by the way). According to INDUCKS
D/D 2001-013 is a 14-pager Nunez story:

D D 2001-013 14 A -> MSN ? BB Being Donald Duck
[xapp:GY,BB,DD,US,QF] [writ:Olaf Solstrand] [xref:W WDC 249-01]

So far regular 8-pager Nunez Beagle Boys stories
(written by McGreals) are being published here in
a month since they were in Swedish/Danish weeklies.
In this case - I don't know. In a past for some reason
the Finnish editors have rarely valuated Nunez's Duck
stories or the scripts high enough to be published.
(the Beagle Boys stories are in a different league)

Just past few weeks among the brand new stories our
weekly has also released a couple "older" unpublished
material. This week it had 10-pager Ferioli story
(D 2000-111) seen originally in Swedish/Danish weeklies
2001/28. (nice) Two weeks ago there was a Manrique story
(Ferioli-style Duck-artist) from year 2000.
So there's still hope for us (?)

- Simo

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GERD SYLLWASSCHY to me, 19-06-2003:

>> I don't know if this 1931 Dutch illustration may be of any importance
>> in the European/Dutch Disney history, but I was surprised to see this
>> early Mickey appearance. [Herman Nijgh] must have seen Mickey Mouse
>> before, at least. And if [Herman] didn't see Mickey in a Dutch
>> publication, then maybe his time in Berlin may have been of influence?
>> I'm very curious.

> Maybe a more likely source is the cinema, not print publications.
> Mickey Mouse cartoons were regularly shown in German cinemas in 1931
> and earlier. And I would not be surprised if the same is true for the
> Netherlands.

Is there any information available on the earliest history of Mickey
Mouse in The Netherlands? Did Mickey Mouse directly come from the USA,
or was he imported via Germany, for example?

Though my scanner has flaws in its quality, I've made a scan of the
illustration. As reference. I haven't checked if any technical flaws
are visible this time (the dot-quality is taken from the publication),
but people can contact me if they want to use a better scan.

http://www.tobia.nl/hd011222_tekening.jpg
(full size, greyscale, 1.848 kB)

http://www.tobia.nl/hd011222_tekening_1.jpg
(shrunk, greyscale, 171 kB)

http://www.tobia.nl/hd011222_mickey.jpg
(detail with Mickey, greyscale, 56 kB)

BTW. As far as I see, Mickey seems to have four fingers on each hand.
Was this typical Disney-method already well-known at the time?

This (non-Disney) illustration was first published in the December 24,
1931 Christmas-attachment of Dutch newspaper "Leidsch Dagblad". The
scan is taken from a reprint in December 22, 2001 Christmas-attachment
of Dutch newspaper "Haarlems Dagblad".

For more information, see my earlier email about this subject:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-June/023396.html

--- Dani?l

>From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: Re: Non-Disney indexing / Exceptional Barks
>Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:26:58 +0200

>The files *can* be maintained independently.

Er, how do you mean? The non-Disney comics are NOT in any non-Disney
comic-specific files!

>Technically it *is* possible to exclude the data in an Inducks search.
>It may need some software-configuration, though.

And some extra Inducks fields, indicating whether an item is Disney or
non-Disney.

Stefan

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Hello everybody!

To Mr Don Rosa:

I've been wanting to ask you this question since I received one of FSM's latest score (about two weeks ago)s: Miklos Rozsa's "Green Fire"-- a gorgeous, dazzling adventure score.
Knowing you preference for "Golden Age" composers, I guess you (would) like this score. Somehow, I also felt it was the kind of score that would become one of your more exotic Scrooge / Donald adventures-- "Treasure of the Ten Avatars" for instance, if not thematically, at least stylistically.
(You will find tracks-- not just clips, *entire* tracks-- from the album on FSM's site:
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/
https://secure.filmscoremonthly.com/store/detailCD.asp?ID=259 )

I also remember your reference to "The Ghost and Mrs Muir" in the notes to Part 10 of L&T (regarding the death of Scrooge's father).
"Lydia the Tatooed Lady" (I've found the mp3 file, by the way) is quoted as a running gag in "Treasury of Croesus". I remember also a classic piece of music (by Sibelius, I guess) quoted in the Khalevala story.

I'm pretty sure there are other such instances when you (and fellow members of the list) thought of / listened to a specific score while you were writing, drawing, or reading a duck story. Could you tell us about such associations, please?

Best wishes,

Olivier

I just picked up the first 2 Gemstone issues and it was worth
the wait. The text by Don Rosa on the back inside cover
about "The Dutchman's Secret" was a nice bonus. It would
be a nice feature in every issue to get some extra information
and the thoughts of various contributors regarding one of the
stories in the issue (not just the writer or artist, but even from
those doing coloring, lettering, etc.). A bit of behind-the-scenes
details might be interesting. My congratulations to everyone
involved with these issues!
Gary Pantzer