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Matthew Williams
Wasn't it great to see that little mean, hairy guy again? I know this will
make me sound geeky, but his appearance made my subscription worth it! I
LOVE little references to past stories!

Matthew A. Williams

Larry Giver wrote:
>Three days ago I bought my copy of Gemstone's DD & Friends #308.
>In my area it indeed arrived about 3 weeks later than MM & Friends.
>The story DD "Hole in One" has a cameo appearance in panels
>1 & 2, page 4, of the reclusive loner Donald persuaded to buy
>an eggbeater in "Salesman Donald" WDC&S #39, Dec. 1943.
>It seems he's moved to a cave on Demontooth Mtn. to avoid the
>high-pressure door-to-door salesmen in Duckburg suburbs. Does
>anyone know if he's been used in any other stories in the past 60
>years? I checked to make sure he was the customer from this
>story, and not the similar, but even hairier, hermit who was HDL's
>steam caliope customer in "Totem Poles".
Matthew Williams
Jonathan H. Gray wrote:
>Only one I can remember from that era was "Terror Of The Black Forest" or
>something like that. I think it was drawn by Kay Wright....was that written
>by Barks as well?

Barks wrote "Peril of the Black Forest" if that is the one you're thinking
about. I was in HDL Junior Woodchucks #6.

Matthew A. Williams
Daniel J. Neyer
Jonathan H. Grey's message on Donald and Mickey fascinates me, especially
because I've been thinking along those lines myself. Judging from the
classic Gottfredson stories, Donald and Mickey grew up together--as I
believe David Gerstein has suggested in an old message--but can that be
fit into the Barks/Rosa universe? My answer is YES!

Without meaning offense to anyone, here's my theory: After the end of
Rosa's EMPIRE BUILDER FROM CALISOTA story, Hortense and Quackmore were
(understandably) so upset with Scrooge that they decided to move away
from Duckburg altogether, along with their young son Donald. They settled
in Mouseton, but kept in touch with their Duckburg relatives in the
once-a-year reunions on Grandma Duck's farm (SIGN OF THE TRIPLE
DISTELFINK). Mickey and Donald grew up together in Mouseton--probably
went to college together, too--and, after Donald held several jobs
(without success) in Mouseton, including assistant at Amos Zoup's
clothing store (CASE OF THE VANISHING COATS) and newsboy for the War Drum
(EDITOR IN GRIEF; Mr. Foozle found himself forced to fire the
hot-tempered Don when he bought the paper back from Mickey) our Duck
decided to move to Duckburg, where he hoped his illustrious family
connections (the Coots, the McDucks) would get him better work (we all
know it didn't, though). This would explain why Donald left the Mouse
universe after a certain point, and why Hortense and her husband were
never seen in Duckburg again after EMPIRE BUILDER FROM CALISOTA. Mickey
and Donald kept in touch after Don's return to Duckburg (hence Donald's
worry in Barks' door-to-door salesman story that his caller may be "Daisy
or Mickey or someone I know") and have re-teamed for great adventures on
occasion.

By the way, I can't wait to see this Mythos Island story--I hope Gemstone
decides to publish it in this country. I've always wanted to see how
Mickey and Scrooge would interact, and I like the idea of establishing
the fact that the Mice and the Ducks exist in the same universe. It would
also be fun to see Ferioli draw Donald and Scrooge--his Mickey artwork is
delightful, and it would be interesting to see him tackle the Ducks as
well.

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Frank Stajano
At 2003-10-14 14:16, Niels Houlberg Hansen wrote:
>Is there a sports fan around who knows if he is identical to the Gianluca
>Vialli who used to play for the Italian national soccer team (and some of
>the big European clubs)? Or maybe it is just a funny coincidence. I supose

Not a coincidence at all---he did the football story because he was a
football star. In that period they did a number of such promotional stories
in Topolino where the plot was written by some famous personality and then
"rendered" into a script by a staff writer.

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/
Kimba1962
"Madame Jennifer" wrote re the portrayal of HD&L in Korhonen's "Sons of the Moon":

> Korhonen's HD&L are different (in a fun way) from Rosa's, even Barks', HD&L.
> He too doesn't treat Huey, Dewey and Louie as three parts to a machine. I
> like the way they were protrayed in his 'Sons of the Moon' story, even
> though they weren't child prodigies.
> They seemed to act alot like the HD&L from the beginning of the DuckTales
> series, really.

Amen!!! Especially to the last sentence. While the best Duck creators (including Rosa and Barks) never really DID treat HD&L as "interchangeable parts" and always remembered that they were children as well as precocious adventure-enablers, Korhonen seemed to capture something in this story that had been rarely explored before, at least in print. This was the sort of Duck story that reminds us that for all the well-established, if not downright "formulaic", aspects of Duck comics (and Disney comics in general), there are always new worlds of characterization to conquer.

Chris Barat
(who'd also like to see more Korhonen stories along the above lines)
Olaf Solstrand
Quoting Lars Jensen <lpj at forfatter.dk>:

> Olaf Solstrand wrote:
>
> > I've always missed... what's their names again?... I'm not sure, but I
> > think one of these men has the catchy name Inspector Creeper. I only
> > know them as Inspekt?r Kr?kke and Betjent Bollemo. The inspector and
> > policeman always doing dirty tricks to get Chief O'Hara fired so that
> > Creeper can take his job.
>
> This doesn't ring a bell at all. Do you remember in which stories these
> characters appeared?

I'm afraid not. They appeared in Norwegian weeklies when I was younger, so much
younger than today... must have been the late eighties. It may not be quite as
many stories as I think it is, but certainly more than one - a revided guess
would be something inbetween four and ten stories.

These characters are unfortunately not listed in COA, which is why I struggled
finding this information. But in a COA-search (for D-coded stories first
published between 1985 and 1990 containing chief O'Hara) I managed to find a
story named "Inspector Creeper's revenge" (D 9132), and it seems likely to me
that this Inspector Creeper must be the inspekt?r Kr?kke I remember from my
childhood comics. "Inspector Creeper's revenge" was according to COA published
in the Scandinavian Donald Duck Weeklies no. 34-1988.

Also, I have a vague feeling that they appeared in "Chief O'Hara's Stolen
Police Car" (D 9268), Scandinavian Donald Duck Weeklies 5-1989.

> Branca has just finished drawing the next chapter in the Douglas saga.

Jolly good! What does that make it, a triology, or...

> As for Gedeone, have you considered writing a story with him yourself?

Keeping in mind that I haven't considered ANYTHING except for the story I'm
working on now, I have to answer no. I haven't got ANY plans on what to write
in the future. As for Gedeone, I don't really know the character yet, but I'll
try to get to know him... and if I get to know him, I don't see why I should
NOT write stories about him. (unless Byron Erickson has a very good reason for
me!)

Olaf
Fernando Ventura
Olaf:

"Disney has made manga? Sounds like a dream-come-true!"

As far as I know, yes!

I know they did with japanese artists:
- Monstes Inc;
-Witch;
-Kingdon of Hearts;

Witch and Kingdon are in print in Japan. Witch into the Asuka Magazine (a
shoujo - for girls -manga).

"Is this available anywhere? In English?"

I don't think so... :-(

I also know Egmont produced some Duck manga style comics...I've saw samples
of two here on DCML, and all are re-drawings of Barks comics.

"(by 'English', I mean 'English, not mirrored', as I guess much manga in
english, especially by big corporations like Disney, IS mirrored)"

I hate mirrored mangas...at least here in Brazil most of the manga titles
are NOT mirrored! :-)

Fernando!
Olaf Solstrand
Quoting Frank Stajano <fms27 at cam.ac.uk>:
> Not a coincidence at all---he did the football story because he was a
> football star. In that period they did a number of such promotional stories
> in Topolino where the plot was written by some famous personality and then
> "rendered" into a script by a staff writer.

Can you mention any of the other famous personalities? I'm just curious.
Stefan Persson
Fernando Ventura wrote:

> I know they did with japanese artists:
> [...]
> -Kingdon of Hearts;

What is this?

Stefan
Frank Stajano
At 2003-10-14 16:26, Olaf Solstrand wrote:
>Can you mention any of the other famous personalities? I'm just curious.

Well, famous for an Italian audience at least...

Luciano Benetton (fashion industrialist)
Enzo Biagi (journalist)
Gigi Proietti (actor)
Renzo Arbore (entertainer)

and possibly others.

Thanks to Marcobar's FSB for this (manual) search.
http://www.cce.unifi.it/~marcobar/DisneyIndex/topo2200.html

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/
Jonathan H. Gray
> >> Actually, I clearly remember reading "Let Sleeping Bones Lie" and
> >> "Bottled Battlers" back in the 1970s [...]
> >
> > Only one I can remember from that era was "Terror Of The Black Forest"
> > or something like that. I think it was drawn by Kay Wright....was that
> > written by Barks as well?
>
>If you're thinking of the story "Peril of the Black Forest" it was drawn
>by John Carey and, yes, written by Barks.
>

Thats the one! Thanks! :)

Hard to remember something exactly that you havent seen in ages...

Jon Gray

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Katie Sullivan
> > I also miss Moby Duck... but I guess he went to Vegas with
> Ludwig and
> > Launchpad? (sigh)
Lars wrote:
> Sadly, I have an ugly feeling Moby is providing the feathers
> for Ludwig
> and Launchpad's costumes.

LOL!!!!!! *is way too amused*

Fernando wrote:
> I hate mirrored mangas...at least here in Brazil most of the
> manga titles
> are NOT mirrored! :-)

I've read and enjoyed manga by Naoko Takeuchi and CLAMP, some
mirrored, some not. I have to say that I don't *really* mind
the mirrored kind, but neither do I dislike the unmirrored ones.
I sort of like the authentic feel of the unmirrored ones. It
feels exotic. ;)

Nitpick: I believe the plural of manga is still manga, not
mangas.

Now, if Disney did manga, I'm imagining Daisy in a miniskirt
with legs three times too long for her anatomy, pink hair, and
eyes the size of dinner plates. LOL!!! ;)

Of course, I already did a parody pic along these lines,
concerning the popularity of sailor suits...
http://www.sullivanet.com/duckburg/myart/smdon.jpg

Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/

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Lars Jensen
Olaf Solstrand wrote:

> > Branca has just finished drawing the next chapter in the Douglas
saga.
>
> Jolly good! What does that make it, a triology, or...

Well, the word "trilogy" makes these stories sound a little more
important to Duck literature than they necessarily are. But, yes, this
is the third story with this particular Douglas, following "Uncle
Scrooge Visits Cousin" (D 5560) and "Gall in the Family" (D 99252).

Lars
Petri Kanninen
FERNANDO:
> I know they did with japanese artists:
> - Monstes Inc;
> -Witch;
> -Kingdon of Hearts;

>OLAF:
>>"Is this available anywhere? In English?"
>I don't think so... :-(

If it's any help, Witch and Kindgom Hearts should be published in Germany
next year.
http://www.animestreet.de/asnews/shownews.php?nummer=181

Quick translation:
"Georg F. Tempel has confirmed in Animexx-Forum that the Witch-manga
mentioned in the news a while ago and the manga for Kingdom Hearts will be
published by EMA in 2004. Both manga belong to Japanese Disney comics."

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Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/

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hour ago! Run! Run!" -Calvin
Disneyfanjune
Hi. I'm new to the list. I'm only eighteen, but I'm a hardcore female Disney fan who plans to work for Disney some day in the animation department. I have known about Disney comics before they started reappearing in the States because I lived in Hong Kong for four and a half years. I purchased quite a few Disney comics while I was there and was disappointed when I couldn't find any when I moved back to the States. Now that they are back on the shelves, all I can say is "Yippie!!!!". My favorite comic series is the Scrooge McDuck series. I can't wait for the next editions to come out; I'm so excited about the new Take-Along series.
I'm not sure whether this is allowed under the rule that we are only suppose to talk about Disney comics since it isn't talking about the ones that feature Mickey and the gang, but what's this I hear about Disney getting in on the superhero business? Are they really going to do it? Plus, are any of the talented Gemstone/Disney artists and writers who are working on the Mickey and the gang series going to take this new venture on? Finally, what's this I hear about Disney opening themselves up to character ideas from superhero fans?"I only hope that we never lose sight of one thing-that it was all started by a mouse."
-Walt Disney (and a man)
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