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Don Rosa
> From: "Anders ChristianSiveb?k" <anders_sivebaek at nns.dk>
> The danish and norwegian translations are fine on this area, and on most
> others.
> I do wonder though how 1 object should be able to sell for half a million
> - and then
> 12 objects and their box should sell for half a billion?? That's what it
> says on the danish
> last page... in the norwegian version, the price the actioneer presumes is
> a bit higher
> than the price of 12...

All I can tell you is that in my original script I had each pen being worth
$40,000 and all 12 in their original box would be auctioned with the
starting bid at $500,000. And that would be low... in such cases, the
original box would be worth as much, if not more, than the contents, being
as the box is rarer than the contents since it is normally trashed. Mind
you, that's to those types of collectors... I am a toy collector (among many
other collections... just last week I bought a slew of 1964 Coke bottle caps
off eBay), but when I get a new item the box (with all tags and labels and
hokey "certificates of authenticity") goes into the trash, and if I ever get
an old item as-they-say MIB ("mint in box"), the item goes on display and
the box gets tossed into the back of a closet for future trade value to one
of those collectors. And speaking of other recent buys, just a few weeks ago
I bought a perfect, mint 1961 RCA talking Ludwig Von Drake doll, a big
sucker with a speaker in his belly that came with a huge tape cassette (of a
design that I never even knew they made prior to modern-style tape
cassettes) for your RCA tape deck, all in the original box, complete with a
perfect 1961 RCA battery in a transistorized (transistorized! obviously
*very* modern!) mini-amplifier, all museum-quality shape, from a retired RCA
employee who kept a few that were given out at the office 42 years back. But
that lovely box is in the back of my closet, waiting for an interested
collector... not me.

By the way, the value quoted for the 1910 Parker Aztec pen is by today's
standards, not those of the mid 1950's -- I couldn't resist that added shock
value. Somebody smack me.

Which leads me to another question (though I guess I can read at least well
enough to see this for myself as the issues arrive here): did the
translators take me seriously when I used the "1910 Parker Aztec" as the
most valuable pen in history? Or did they make up some silly name of their
own? (I know our buddy Stefan used the Parker.)

Also by the way, there are *far* more valuable pens than the 1910 Parker
Aztec, some "worth" a half-million bucks EACH, but those would be special
one-of-a-kind pens made for Presidents or Sultans. I needed a normal pen
that might have been peddled by the boxful to a businessman. Granted the
1910 Parker Aztec was a top-of-the-line pen, that's why (in my script) I
made it clear that a salesman left them *as free samples* to impress the
tycoon, as $crooge would never have paid for anything but the cheapest. But
perhaps the office staff of Hortense or Matilda or Quackmore or Miss
Quackfaster tried to convince $crooge to buy some when he passed through
Duckburg during his 1902-1932 globetrotting. As to why they would never have
used even one of the pens... um... I'll get back to you on that'n.... right
now I need to go to eBay and find a 1950's style RCA tape-cassette deck so I
can hear what Ludwig has to say.

> From: Olaf Solstrand <olaf at andebyonline.com>
> Question to Don:
> Speaking of pens... When Scrooge says on page 2 that "I got [the
> pens] from a
> salesman"... Is that a reference to US 24 "The Magic Ink"?

Nope. My implication in my original script was that the salesman left the
ink *with* the pens. $crooge would have bought those Parker Aztecs circa
1910 when a salesman would have been selling them, not nearly a half-century
later. Didn't the colorist (on my story) follow directions and make it clear
that was the same box of pens that were the ones that turned out to be so
valuable at the end of the tale? Besides, as I recall, that "Magic Ink"
salesman only sold him bottles of ink, right?
Rich Bellacera
Kriton Kyrimis said:
: Just to add to the confusion....
: I would argue that this is the point of Donald's conception...
(snip discussion about how Donald should look)
: Now *that* would be Donald's real birthday!

I would beg to differ, or rather back up to your point that
the process you described is more akin to being the the process
by which Donald was "concieved."

And return to his film premiere (or in the case of some other
characters, their newpaper premiere) being the point at which
they were presented unto the world as thier "birth."

Of course, we're talking about a Duck, and ducks are more commonly
known to have "hatched," and since ideas are said to "hatch" then
maybe there is some blurring of the process by which Donald was
"conceived" and "hatched" LOL!
:-)

Thanks,

Rich Bellacera
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Mads Jensen
Hi

I couldn't really find any information on this character from Duck Tales
other than her foreign names.

Is she related to anyone from Duck Tales, eg. niece (Scrooge's, Daisy's)
? or is she just put in the show as an extra charater replacing the ones
that were originally featured in the Barks story!

Thanks in advance!

best,
Mads
Fernando Ventura
Timo Ronkainen
>http://news.awn.com/index.php3?ltype=top&newsitem_no=9411
>Finally...

I thought they already were "Disney Legends" ... Sigh...
How about Ub Iwerks?

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Olaf Solstrand
I have to share this with you, as I really find it amazing myself...

About a year ago, a Norwegian boy, Mats Gullikstad, posted a message in one of
the many web forums I attend where he asked for helps and hints - as he was
building a model of the Money Bin, and needed help on how to do it. I
immediately asked him if he could send me some photoes of it when it was done,
as I thought it sounded like a pretty fascinating project.

Now, he's finished it, and today he sent me some photoes. It was beyond my
wildest imaginations, and I immediately understood that this was something I
had to share with you. I feel sure everybody here will find it just as amazing
as I did.

I've put his photoes online - they're pretty big, so it takes a while loading,
but it's most certainly worth it. The front and roof can be removed, so the
pictures are from both outside and inside the bin.

http://www.andebyonline.com/usmb1.jpg
http://www.andebyonline.com/usmb2.jpg
http://www.andebyonline.com/usmb3.jpg
http://www.andebyonline.com/usmb4.jpg
http://www.andebyonline.com/usmb5.jpg

I get the impression that the main inspiration source here has been the
magnificent blueprints our friends Don Rosa and Dan Shane made - and that Mats
has done about as much work as Don and Dan has. Anyhow, this is really amazing.

A few facts to make everything even MORE amazing:

-- Mats Gullikstad, who built this (alone, I think), is only 15 years old.

-- The model is 40x40x42 centimetres.

-- The dollar sign on the front took him three days to make.

-- The bin is furnished with 250 office desks and 250 chairs made out of
cardboard.

-- All the "coins" in the vault are cardboard from milk boxes, made with a
holing machine, which took veeeeery long.

-- 1st-10th floor can be pulled out like drawers.

-- The windows have glass in them.

-- The door into the vault, which took a day to make, has a turnable wheel.

-- The walls of Scrooge's thinking room are dressed with felt.

I find this to be an absolutely amazing work, so... I just HAD to show it to
you.

If anyone else has a positive comment to this, I'm VERY happy to forward it to
Mats.

Best,
Olaf the Blue
Olivier
Hi everyone!

Olaf:

>>> About a year ago, a Norwegian boy, Mats Gullikstad, posted a message in
one of
>>> the many web forums I attend where he asked for helps and hints - as he
was
>>> building a model of the Money Bin, and needed help on how to do it.
[...]
>>> I've put his photoes online - they're pretty big, so it takes a while
loading,
>>> but it's most certainly worth it. The front and roof can be removed, so
the
>>> pictures are from both outside and inside the bin.

Let me forward a series of comments from a friend that prefers to remain
anonymous...
- where's the rest of the hill?!
- and the "Scram!" and "Go away!" signs?
- where are all those lazy employees? if nobody's working, I will go almost
half broke in about 250 years!
- where are the guards? all the thieves in town will rob the Bin in no time!
- where are the traps?-- wait, never mind: no need to show everyone where
the traps are
- no ladder in the vault?
- *gold* coins?!
- you can't even read what kind of coins they are!
- and have you seen the size of those coins?!
- no bills?!
- no money bags?!
- no bulldozer to move the money around and air it?
- glass for the windows?! do you know how much glass costs?
- so that's what you do of your time?! I see 20 cents an hour is too much
- and the idea of making a model of it! now all the thieves in the world
can study it and plan an attack on my Bin!
- which reminds me-- Old Number One! where's Old Number One?!
Poliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

;o)

Seriously now, this is indeed truly SPLENDID work! I want one too!
The picture of the vault is great: so that's what it looks like "for real"!

These pictures ought to be properly presented on a web site, with notes &
comments from Mats; pictures from the comics and the blueprints next to
these would be nice too. I would gladly do it, but I could not work on it
right now; it would take me several weeks to find the time to do it, one bit
at a time.
Once the web pages are done, Mats could send the link to Egmont & Gemstone
(a li'l picture & the link in the letters page?), and maybe also Disney
Hachette (does Picsou Magazine still have a "links" section?).

Nice Donald car, by the way. Oh, and you can find "grass carpets" in model
shops to cover the hill with "grass".

>>>If anyone else has a positive comment to this, I'm VERY happy to forward
it to Mats.

I guess you can forward this message.

All the best,

Olivier
Stefan Persson
Mads Jensen wrote:
> Is she related to anyone from Duck Tales, eg. niece (Scrooge's, Daisy's)
> ? or is she just put in the show as an extra charater replacing the ones
> that were originally featured in the Barks story!

Mrs. Beakley is her grandmother, according to some DuckTales episode.

Stefan
Arie Fachrisal
> I find this to be an absolutely amazing work, so... I just HAD to show it
to
> you.

> Best,
> Olaf the Blue

HOT DANG, way cool !!! If he ever gonna make more replicas of it and make it
available to the DCMLers at an affordable price, i definitely want one.

It should be featured in an article imho. It is a grand project and with a
grand result so i believe that most duck fans would love to see it.

Keep On Quacking,
Arie Fachrisal

PS Tell Mats that I pity him that for his hardwork, he will get paid only 30
cents per hour in form of the tiny coins in the bin by Scroogey :-P
Katie Sullivan
Wow, that's quite a piece of work! Very impressive!!!

I want one for my room. ;)

Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/

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Comments to Mats Gullikstad:
*Jaw drops. Eyes bug out in amazement.* WOW!!!!!! Great work!!!!!!! You have a whole lot more patience than I do. You are definitely talented.

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Kriton Kyrimis
OLAF:

Pretty amazing!

I also liked the 404 error page (page not found) on your server!

> -- All the "coins" in the vault are cardboard from milk boxes, made with a
> holing machine, which took veeeeery long.

Ah, but did he use a different diameter for each coin, just as Don uses a
different template to draw each individual coin? :-)

Seriously, I was impressed by seeing all those little coins in the bin, and I
still can't believe how they were produced. Is the bin full of them, or is it
just a thin layer of "coins" glued on a flat surface? If milk cartons have a
metallic surface only on the inside, I would assume it is the latter. (I don't
really know, as over here they use wax(?)-coated cardboard or plastic
containers.)

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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Lars Jensen wrote:

>>> 1. Buettner was born in 1903 (in Minneapolis).
>>> 2+3. Hubbard lived 1915-1984.
>>
>> i didnt get the original post, but i wrote a obit for Hubbard for a
>> fanzine back in 84 - his birth date came from himself (via jerry
>> bails)
>
>Thanks, Steven. Can you confirm 1903 as the birth date for Carl
>Buettner? And, for that matter, his death in 1965? (I need these dates
>for an article, so I have to check and re-check everything. Sigh!)
>Lars

Hello Lars
My sources for Buettner's and Hubbard's dates are:
1. Buettner: Lambiek Comiclopedia (http://www.lambiek.net/artists/index.htm)
and Maurice Horn: The World Encyclopedia of Comics.
2. Hubbard: The preface of the Swedish reissues of the complete volumes of
"Kalle Anka & Co." (1957 #2).

Hello Steven
I would very much like to read your obituary for Hubbard.
Would it be possible to get a scan or something of it???
Claudio Eckert
Great work!!!

I would like to include the Money Bin at my "Page 42"
(http://www.seite42.de) as soon as I've finished a new section about
"selfmade Disney models". (Olaf, maybe you can tell me your friends e-mail.)

All:
Are there more such things out there? Please let me know!
(I remember "oolated squiggs" and "Barks dog soup", for example)

greetings,
Claudio

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