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Hi all!

In WDC 196 - "Ice Statues", page 4, panels 7-8 Barks mentiones a General
Crow. He looks like Cornelius Coot, but are much thicker.

In a DCML-mail dated June 22nd 2002 our friend Rob Klein mentiones a
"Duckburg Park-statue
of General Crow".

Does this mean that this same historic person is mentined at least twice by
Barks? If so, what story does Rob refer too?

Sigvald

DON:

> but it seems like "make big money" would work
> in any language.

Only in the context of what you drew. If you think about it, "big money" is
clearly an idiom: if you use a synonym, e.g., "large money", the meaning
changes drasticly.

(Back when they used to have a Greek version of "Wheel of Fortune", the girl
turning the letters did not say "come on, big money!" in Greek.)

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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Hi, All!

About Grandma...

>> 13) Grandma Duck = W WDC 121-04 "GD adopts Gus and Jaq" 1950-10 ?
>
> Grandma Duck appeared in comic strips in the fourties. According to Sigvald's
> homepages, she appeared as a picture on a wall in 1940 and in person in 1943.
> According to Inducks: YD 43-09-27 "Grandma Duck gag" September 27, 1943
You can find a survey on Grandma, her first mention in a Disney comics page
(1934!), her picture on a Wall, Taliaferro's strips and her possible
(different) birthdays, in the article I wrote, under the title "Buon
Compleanno, Nonna Papera", published this very month in "Zio Paperone" #
169. You can also discover that she was born in October from the first story
of Jaq and Gus at the farm (reprinted here; yes, it is W WDC 121-04
1950-10); you can also find the very rare Bill Wright story introducing
Humperdink.

Incidentally, there is also a picture Don Rosa shoot froma a young reader at
the last "Napoli Comicon Convention", in Italy, some monts ago, where this
fan explaines how he was able to skip the huge crowd of people asking for a
drawing from Don, to get one picture for himself!

>> 31) Sonny Seagull = D 96408 "Free Spirits" Nov. 7, 1997 ?
>
> According to the home pages of Norwegian Donald Duck & Co., very little is
> known about the creation of Sonny, but that he may have been created in Italy
> or France in the 1980's. Although, the story you mention is said to be his
> first story published in Scandinavia.

It's untrue... It was created at the Egmont's offices in the late '90es.

>> From: Wolfsong <wolfsong at mpinet.net>
>> Subject: Re: Does Goofy have a family name?
>> If you look at some of the Goofy cartoons where he's in a domestic
>> situation or where he has an office job, you'll find he's referred to as
>> George Geef. I like to think of this as Goofy's
>> real name with "Goofy" being his stage name.
>
> That's the opposite of Disney's position. Disney thinks it's cute to pretend
> like their classic characters are actors who are playing roles in the
> animated cartoons they appear in, and that would seem evident since they are
> almost always (slightly or drastically) different characters in the old
> films, and clearly actors-in-roles in recent features like "Mickey's
> Christmas Carol" and "The Prince and the Pauper". And this is another reason
> why the comic book versions (the non-Disney versions) of these characters,
> where they are *true* characters in their own rights, are much more
> appealing and interesting to me.

True. Indeed, Goofy's family name, in Italian comics, is DE PIPPIS (PIPPO DE
PIPPIS); from an old US Sunday we could detect that his "original" family
name can be GOOBER (GOOFY GOOBER). His home address is 103 Ellum St. (from
Dick Moores' page published in Vacation Parade # 3, reprnted in Disney's
WDC&S # 577 - 1992).

Luca

Soeren wrote:

> Interesting though, the opposite has its niche. There is the saying
> "to sell something for small money" (etwas f?r kleines Geld
> verkaufen) when a seller wants to praise that it's cheap or he won't
> gain much from the deal. I've never heard of "selling something for
> big money", though - (no big advertisement in that...)

That's probably because money with little value (mostly coins) is called
"Kleingeld" (="small money") while the more valuable banknotes are _not_
called "Gro?geld" ("big money"). Ils sont fos, ces Allemagnes!

Cord

> BTW: What language is used in Dukburg? English? Or could they have their
> own language?

Asking what language is used in Duckburg, is like asking what time it is on the
North Pole...

Nah, if we stick to thinking of Duckburg as a town in the United States of
America, let's say they use English...

.but in most cases where I've seen our friends from Duckburg, they have been
talking Norwegian. In other cases, they have been talking English. In many
cases, the cases where they have been talking Norwegian and the cases where
they were talking English turned out to be the exact same case, depending on
where in the world the publication is printed. And I'm sure you've seen many of
the same stories in... German, I guess. So, Duckburg uses the language of
Fantasy. They use all different languages at once, depending on who's listening.

Just like Santa Claus, you know... He talks all different languages so that
everybody is able to understand him. And I'm sure that if Santa were to talk to
a Norwegian child and a Japanese child at the same time, they would both
understand him - because the language he uses is the language of fantasy.
Everybody understands it. That's the language they use in Duckburg.

Or English, I guess.

Olaf

> From: <H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl>
> Subject: Make big money (no, this is not a spam mail)
> I don't see why you think such a word joke would work in any
> language. Why would "manufacture a large banknote" mean the same
> as "earn a lot of money" in any language other than English (and Italian)?

Because in English "make" has many meanings other than simply "manufacture".
It is synonymous with "earn". I knew that might not be true in other
languages, and that's why I was asking you.

> Even more likely, the translator was never told to translate that
> text, because the Egmont whiteners removed it.

No, there never was any text in that art. You surely know that I cannot put
any text in my art which I am doing for an international publisher. The text
was in the script which is sent to all publishers with a numbered reference
pertaining to that magazine back cover.
>

Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:

> I need the Swedish and the Danish name for the new Don Rosa story - "Trash
> and Treasure". I also need to know what issue of Kalle Anka & Co / Anders
> And & Co it is printed in - it's #43/2003 I presume.

http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/issue.php/0/se/KA2003-43

Stefan