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Olaf Solstrand
> By the way, were Scrooge had have his Garden in dis story? On the Hill wen
> Scrooge Money Bin is?

No. On his farm, if I remember right.
Mark A. Semich
At 12:01 AM 10/4/2003 +0200, Katie Sullivan wrote:
>Don Rosa wrote:
> > The illustrations used in those calendars were lifted from
> > PICSOU magazine
> > where I had done them as "pin-ups". I recently learned that
> > the French
> > PICSOU editor did not even know that this had been done! But
> > yes, Gemstone
> > can also use those pin-ups (with the lovely French coloring)
> > at cost of
> > copies from France.
>
>Are we talking about the Christmas calendar images I've seen
>scanned online? Where a different character is featured on each
>day, including somewhat more obscure ones like Jose Carioca and
>yes, my favorite, Goldie? I'd love to have that published in
>America!

I was actually asking Don about the pictures used in the European-only 2003
Don Rosa Duck Calendar. The pictures aren't of different characters, but
rather, are of different stories. Each month features one big splash
picture, by Don, illustrating scene(s) from a particular Don Rosa or Carl
Barks tale. Living in the United States, I had to order it over the
internet from a shop somewhere in northern Europe. I don't have the URL
handy, but I got it from this list.

- M
Klartekst
Personally, I like the idea of the flat at the top floor of
the money bin as shown in Don Rosa's plan drawing. Why do we
never see how Scrooge spends his nights, anyway? Is there a
policy that this should be left to the reader's imagination?

The question is more than academic to me. I'm trying to
break through as a Disney writer, and since Egmont seemed to
like the first story I sent them, I've started working on
another. In this story, something terrible happens to the
money bin and I thought it would be more dramatic if it took
place at night. But Scrooge has to be there!

Of course, I could have him working late (I bet he does that
a lot), or taking a last money swim before going home, but I
would really like to show him in bed. It would make him seem
more vulnerable and the whole thing would become more
realistic and personal. Maybe he has a nightgown with dollar
signs on it (a Christmas gift from Grandma), maybe even a
nightcap like Donald used to wear in the old days.

I seem to remeber having seen Scrooge in nightclothes in
Italian stories, but does anyone remember if this has been
shown elsewhere recently? Or is there a rule against it?

Nils Smeby
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
David Gerstein <ramapith at mail.dk> wrote:

>> [A Stavanger Aftenblad article written by
>> a friend of mine] presented some of the
>> Secondary characters in the Disney's comics
>> universes [...] These characters were
>> mentioned: The favourites [and] the
>> "hate" characters [...]
>
> Interesting stuff, Sigvald, but I'm not
> entirely clear on the point of your friend's
> article. Is he attempting to speak for MOST
> Norwegian Disney readers when he defines
> "favorite" and "hated" characters?

My clear impression is that he presents his personal view only.

Sigvald
Madame Jennifer Inantaz
Someone was asking if there were any young people collecting comics earlier.
I'm 19 (the 2nd was my birthday), and I've been collecting and reading them
for at least 6 years. The funny thing is I don't recall what got me so
danged interested! I think I just picked up a copy at the used bookstore by
some force of fate...but why?
It may have had something to do with me watching DuckTales, because I know I
watched that show before even know there were <joy>comics</joy>! I *lived*
off of Disney Afternoon cartoons.
So I guess that's my theory: I saw a familiar face (Scrooge) on a comic book
cover, and bought it.

I haven't been collecting that avidly, so I'm still around 115 or so comic
books. The only old (Dell) comic is the one with the story "The Second
Richest Duck" (but it's a good story!).

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Oh...and I *must* have your talent Katie Sullivan!
Mustmustmustmustmustmust...must!
I'm going to make time to read your new fan fic! It looks great!
Who says my loyalties have to lie with only comic book artists?!

By the way, thanks for putting putting the extra Goldie pictures done by
Scarpa, Vicar, Rota and Andrea Ferraris (someone scanned them for you
didn't they? thank you guys too). Doesn't the Rota version of Goldie look
oddly like the DuckTales version? (O_o)

~*OchaGirl*~

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Hoy Murphy
That's a wonderful drawing. I notice the triplets still have floating eyes,
even as adults.

--your pal, Hoy
Matthew Williams
With all of the recent discussion about Barks's one use of Ludwig Von Drake,
I was just curious if Barks had ever commented on the character in an
interview. Are any of you aware of any comments he made about the
character?

On a related matter, I was just curious if any of the other major Disney
comic artists had ever used the character. I know Rosa used him in a cameo
in the Gyro pied piper story, but that's all that I am aware of. Does the
character have any kind of international reputation? I would LOVE to see a
Scarpa Von Drake!

Ludwig's one of my favorites. In a way I would love to see him used more in
the comics, but I'm just not sure if he can be half as amusing without that
brilliant Paul Frees voice. I forget who mentioned it, but I thoroughly
enjoyed the Ludwig shorts that Disney printed during their brief run of
comics too! Still without that voice. The funniest thing about the
character to me is his (seemingly ad-libbed by Paul Frees) digressions, and
I'm just not sure if that could work in a comic. But I ramble, so I'll stop
now!

Take care,

Matthew A. Williams
Shad Z.
From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
>
> Hi all!
>
> I just read in the foreword in the huge white book "Jeg, Mikke Mus" that
> Mickey's debut in "Steamboat Willie" took place on September 19th 1928. This
> means that Mickey's 75th anniversary took place or started 15 days ago.
> However so far I have not seen any kind of Mickey anniversarybook,
> anniversarybooklet, anniversarymagazine or anything else published here in
> Norway by Egmont to celebrate this anniversary. Is the situation the same in
> other countries? And does anyone here know if we will see any such
> anniversary stuff soon?

In America, the Disney parks (Disneyland and
Disney World) are producing some merchendise...
and that's about it. On Mickey's 50th birthday,
Disney made it a big deal, with TV specials,
books, etc. (Does anyone remember the Mickey's
50th logo that appeared on the cover of ALL
the Disney comics that year?). And the 60th
was also celebrated -- I still have the commerative
magazine (with free fake animation cel) somewhere.

But there doesn't seem to be much done with
Mickey's 75th
--
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Katie Sullivan
> Oops, yes, I received your messages in the wrong order, making
> me really
> confused.
> Stefan

No problem, we confused each other, then! ;)

Don Rosa wrote:
> But let me explain it!
> This art was originally a piece that I did as a birthday
> present for the
> editor on the Finnish ROOPE SETA (Uncle $crooge) digest. He is
> a collector
> of American western comics. So I drew him a parody of my
> favorite western
> comic cover TIM HOLT #17.

Wow, neat!

> Anyway, I later sent the colored image to the Swedish
> Donaldists and they
> added their magazine info to the cover, but did so by
> recreating the style
> used in the original TIM HOLT #17 title and other cover text
> elements
> absolutely perfectly based on a picture of an actual TIM HOLT
> #17 I also
> sent. Perhaps one of them will send in a link to a scan of
> that TIM HOLT
> issue so you can see what a good job they did, and to compare
> my
> $crooge/Goldie version to the original Ghost Rider/Victor
> Mature.

What a neat idea. Like the "Tales from the Bin/Crypt" and other
such drawings I've seen sprinkled around the Internet. Those
are *so* clever. ^_^

> Only my father
> knows, and he won't say. (Mainly because he died last Spring.)

Sorry to hear that! :(

> > From: Katie Sullivan <vazali at yahoo.com>
> > I doubt it was a deliberate slight, and even if it was, stop
> > being so touchy! *sigh*
Don Rosa:
> I think we should resign ourselves to this personality trait.
> Obviously it
> will not change. (yes... *sigh*).

True. ;)

> I never believed that $crooge lived anywhere other than the
> Money Bin, but
> the "Island" story made it easier to show him arriving from
> elsewhere in the
> morning, as did that TEMPO magazine gag. To show him arriving
> at his office
> from upstairs would imply that he was just coming down from
> another office,
> and would have required a several panel explanation of
> something that was
> not related to the story and inappropriate at that moment.

That makes sense.

> Anyway, the Egmont editor said that he had always assumed that
> $crooge lived
> in town in some cheap apartment. I said that wasn't too
> abhorrent an idea to
> me, so we compromised for future purposes -- $crooge lives
> mainly in his Bin
> quarters, but for various reasons he sometimes stays at a
> small apartment he
> has in some downtown Duckburg building.

Somehow he could work that to his advantage for tax purposes,
I'm sure. ;)

> In fact, in the story
> I'm working on
> right now, I had to show $crooge arriving at the Bin's
> entrance at dawn as
> in "Island", but I invent another reason for it since to go
> into an
> explanation of the "downtown apartment" idea would have
> interrupted the
> story with unnecessary info

A lock-in at the Billionaire's Club? After-hours sale at The
Really Really Cheap Stuff Warehouse? Out watching for
potentially valuable meteorites? Goldie in town?
*runs away, laughing evilly*
Sorry, I have a cold right now and my brain is a little fuzzy
from the medicine. >_<

> (and I already have enough
> unnecessary info in
> every panel of my stories already!).

Define "unnecessary!" We fans enjoy it, anyway... ;)

> (I still
> like the idea of
> them being the same character times 3, with no individual
> traits... I think
> that's part of the "gag" for me, that there could be three
> such noble yet
> identical people.)

Yeah, their uncanny similarity is both amusing and cute. I
recall seeing a "cartooning tips" feature in WDC&S once during
the Gladstone run that showed "not-so-great" and "better
approaches" to drawing the nephews running. The "not-so-great"
version showed them moving in perfect sync, each limb positioned
exactly the same. The "better" version, which they said was
more visually interesting, showed them each with different
postures. If they had chose any other characters to illustrate
this concept, I'd have agreed, but with HD&L the whole point is
their uniformity. After reading that I looked at Barks stories
and saw that they almost ALWAYS walk in unison. ;) Just a
random observation.

> (Why am I sending so many messages on so many different past
> DCML digests? I
> just returned from a trip to a very nice comic convention in
> St. Paul, MN,
> and I'm playing catch-up.)

Oh. My. God. You're kidding! I live in western Wisconsin,
just like 100 miles away. I would have come if I had known! I
even got an advertising postcard in the mail about that
convention but because so many of my fellow Americans are too
unenlightened to appreciate duck comics, the ad never even
mentioned your name! ARG, I can't believe I missed that! :(
I'm going to go bash my head against the wall now...

> From: "Klartekst" <info at klartekst.no>
> Of course, I could have him working late (I bet he does that
> a lot), or taking a last money swim before going home, but I
> would really like to show him in bed. It would make him seem
> more vulnerable and the whole thing would become more
> realistic and personal.

See Rosa's "Dream of a Lifetime" and "Island at the Edge of
Time" for panels showing Scrooge asleep in bed.

> Maybe he has a nightgown with dollar
> signs on it (a Christmas gift from Grandma), maybe even a
> nightcap like Donald used to wear in the old days.

That's pretty much how he's pictured in the stories mentioned
above. And don't forget the bedroom slippers over his webbed
feet. ;) The nightshirt, slippers and old-fashioned nightcap
image of Scrooge brings to mind the 1982(?) animated "Mickey's
Christmas Carol." As a little girl I dragged around a little
stuffed Scrooge in that purple outfit for ages. (It was given
out as part of a promotion at Hardee's fast food restaurant.)
My mom sewed a little broadcloth coat for him, though, so he
didn't have to wear his pajamas all the time. ;)

Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/

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Jonathan H. Gray
>But let me explain it!

>snippety snip snip snip

Mr. Rosa, the amount of research you put into single pictures never ceases
to completely boggle my mind. XD

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Jonathan H. Gray
>From: rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: age of American readers
>Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:50:04 GMT
>
>
> >What I would like to ask (and I don't want to delve into anyone's
> >personal space) is if there are very many of you out there who are
> >American
> >AND were hooked into the comics in the eighties or afterwards?

I'm 24 as well. My first comics were the Disney Comics reprint of The Three
Caballeros and Gottfredson's Sky Island, and upon trying to find more, the
next book i bought was the Gladstone reprint of Carl Bark's first story -
Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold in a box for 50 cents. :)

Quite a haul if I do say so myself ^^

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Rob Klein
Regarding the question of where Uncle Scrooge sleeps at night, why can't we
assume that his "Downtown Duckburg Apartment" is in his "McDuck Building". It
is located in Downtown Duckburg. Why would he pay rent to someone else, when
he could sleep near a lot of his money (and its soothing fumes), and be ready
to go to work in his Downtown office early in the morning. Of course, he also
goes to his Money Bin #1 on Killmotor Hill every day (where he also has an
office). He also sleeps once in a while at his little wood frame house next to
Jughead Jones' house, once in a great while (probably when he wants to get away
from his creditors who hire collection agencies who bother people for money in
the middle of the night. He also spends some nights at his country mansion,
and also at his country farm. In short, he is a multi-zillionaire who owns
much property with facilities for him to sleep-and he sometimes stays at ALL of
them. They were ALL depicted by Barks. He has several offices and several
money bins (also according to Barks).

Rob
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Jonathan H. Gray
>Anyway, the Egmont editor said that he had always assumed that $crooge
>lived
>in town in some cheap apartment. I said that wasn't too abhorrent an idea
>to
>me, so we compromised for future purposes -- $crooge lives mainly in his
>Bin
>quarters, but for various reasons he sometimes stays at a small apartment
>he
>has in some downtown Duckburg building. In fact, in the story I'm working
>on
>right now, I had to show $crooge arriving at the Bin's entrance at dawn as
>in "Island", but I invent another reason for it since to go into an
>explanation of the "downtown apartment" idea would have interrupted the
>story with unnecessary info (and I already have enough unnecessary info in
>every panel of my stories already!).

Thats an interesting concept. Though I have to ask if an apartment is
feasable though? I just cant see Scrooge parting with a monthly "rent" let
alone putting down a deposit he could possibly lose should something go
"awry" such as a Donald visit or a Gearloose invention gone wonky. :)

I guess thats why I'd always assumed that McDuck just kept his mansion as a
spare home even though he didnt necessarily "live" in it. It just felt
convenient. I'm with you on the fact that he probably lives in his bin more
than anything else though.

Jon Gray

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Katie Sullivan
> From: "Madame Jennifer Inantaz" <madame82 at hotmail.com>
> Oh...and I *must* have your talent Katie Sullivan!
> Mustmustmustmustmustmust...must!
> I'm going to make time to read your new fan fic! It looks
> great!
> Who says my loyalties have to lie with only comic book
> artists?!

Aww, shucks. You'll make me blush. As you might notice from
the dates on that story, I wrote it awhile ago but I was too shy
to post it before this. o_0

> By the way, thanks for putting putting the extra Goldie
> pictures done by
> Scarpa, Vicar, Rota and Andrea Ferraris (someone scanned them
> for you
> didn't they? thank you guys too).

Actually, I scanned them myself, but a couple of my friends from
the list sent me the comics themselves. My Danish pal Anders
sent me the comics that the Rota and Ferraris stories were in.
We trade comics back and forth sometimes. ;) And the Vicar one
was from the copy of Zio Paperone issue #100 that Luca B. sent
me. :) Thanks again, guys! *hugs*

I'm always looking for new takes on the character, so any other
artists who've drawn her are welcome to join the gallery, too.

(We're talking about the part of my webpage that's here:
http://www.sullivanet.com/duckburg/loves/goldiegallery.htm )

> Doesn't the Rota version of
> Goldie look
> oddly like the DuckTales version? (O_o)

She looks more Barksian to me, but I *do* like his style. :)

Speaking of fan-made works, a new online acquaintance of mine
from Finland drew this wonderful picture of Scrooge and Goldie:
http://www.deviantart.com/view/3276509/
I love the expressions! :)

Re: Ludvig, I like the character too, and wish it was possible
for him to appear more often. In addition to the Pied Piper
cameo already mentioned by Matthew, he can be spotted if you
look very carefully at "A Little Something Special," too. ;)

> Mr. Rosa, the amount of research you put into single pictures
> never ceases
> to completely boggle my mind. XD
> Jonathan H. Gray

Doesn't it, though? :D It really does make a difference. Just
like Barks and his infamous collection of National Geographics.
Authenticity really makes a difference.

Rob Klein wrote:
> In short, he is a
> multi-zillionaire who owns
> much property with facilities for him to sleep-and he
> sometimes stays at ALL of
> them. They were ALL depicted by Barks. He has several
> offices and several
> money bins (also according to Barks).

That certainly makes sense. And yes, he would hardly pay ANYONE
rent! ;)

Katie Sullivan
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Don Rosa
> From: "Matthew Williams" <kingofduckburg at apptechnc.net>
> I was just curious if Barks had ever commented on the character in an
> interview. Are any of you aware of any comments he made about the
> character?

As I recently stated (when you blinked), when I put Ludwig into my Family
Tree which I was constructing with Barks' help, he wrote to me that he was
"very sorry about the unfortunate creation of that character"... but I
didn't presume to tell him that I *liked* LVD, having seen him on TV since I
was 9, nor did I quiz him as to what he had against the character.

> On a related matter, I was just curious if any of the other major Disney
> comic artists had ever used the character.

To also repeat: Egmont deemed him an "officially dead" character. I was
forbidden to use him, so I could only sneak him into panel corners when the
editor wasn't looking.

> I know Rosa used him
> in a cameo
> in the Gyro pied piper story, but that's all that I am aware of.

I also used him in "A Little Something Special".

> From: Katie Sullivan <vazali at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Replies to things Don Rosa wrote
> Oh. My. God. You're kidding! I live in western Wisconsin,
> just like 100 miles away. I would have come if I had known! I
> even got an advertising postcard in the mail about that
> convention but because so many of my fellow Americans are too
> unenlightened to appreciate duck comics, the ad never even
> mentioned your name! ARG, I can't believe I missed that! :(
> I'm going to go bash my head against the wall now...

Golly, I'm sorry! I would have VERY MUCH liked to meet you. I would have
drawn you another pic of Goldie. Or given you one of the prints of the cover
art from "Hearts of the Yukon" that I carry with me to shows. But as you
know I never use this forum for self-promotion so I never mention my
personal appearances (I was also in a Chicago suburb of Tinley Park 2 weeks
ago at a show). I generally only reply to direct questions on here. Someone
needs to periodically ask me where I'll be appearing... I might be getting
more invitations now that the Gemstone comics are here. For example, if
someone should ask me where my next appearance will be, I would say "at a
big show in Toronto on November 7-9 and then at the MidOhio ComiCon in
Columbus the weekend after Thanksgiving". Is Toronto close enough to you?
I was only contacted to appear at the St. Paul show less than a month ago,
so perhaps I was not on their earliest flyers, but I saw the last one they
sent out and I was mentioned prominently. And don't fuss at them for not
granting me (as our friend might say) proper "respect" -- they treated me
VERY nicely! They kept referring to me as "legendary" (which sort of worries
me... that must mean my gray hair makes me look old!). It was an *excellent*
show, very much in the lost spirit of the comic cons of 30 years ago. I hope
they invite me back again next year. One way to help that happen is to send
them a note and request it.

> From: "Jonathan H. Gray" <jongraywb at hotmail.com>
> Mr. Rosa, the amount of research you put into single pictures
> never ceases
> to completely boggle my mind. XD

That's my job. I'm an anal retentive.
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