I assume you all know me good enough now to know that whenever I start writing
a new story, I need help and lots of it. This time, I'm writing a story where I
want to make a few references to the Barks classic "The Golden Helmet" (OS
408). Problem is, I only have access to the Norwegian edition of this story -
and Norwegian is not the language I'm writing stories in.
So, can anyone who has a copy of this story in American, please help me out on
this? (This is a kind of reversed quote quiz, I guess... I have the story, and
want the quotes. How 'bout that, Daniel?)
Question one: On page five, last frame, Azure Blue says (in the Norwegian
edition): "The helmet! The ship! The map! All the things I read of in the old
book I found in Oslo! Now it's getting started!" My question: Is the town he
mentions "Oslo" in the original version as well, or is that something the
translator put in to replace a well-known-to-Americans-but-not-that-known-to-
Norwegians-city? (the translator is Helene Kl?vstad, whom in 1950 translated a
Sunday page into saying that Mickey's ADDRESS was in Oslo, so I have to ask.)
Uhm, actually this isn't VERY important, but I would love to know it anyway.
Question two: Lawyor Sharky comes with lots of Juridical quotes during the
story. I'm wondering what these were in the original language. I COULD be
wrong, naturally, but "flikkus, flakkus, fumdidlidum" doesn't sound like
something Carl Barks would have written, more like a translation.
The quotes are: On page seven: "Flikkus, flakkus, fumdidlidum! Meaning: How can
you prove he's not?" (also repeated on page twenty-five) On page
seven: "Hokkus, pokkus, jokkus. Meaning: The one who owns soil, owns
everything!" Page fourteen: "Jokus, krokus, spokus. Meaning: When the master
speaks, the servant remains silent." Page twenty-three: "Oktus, soktus,
bomfiffikus. Meaning: That's the way it will be!" Page twenty-three: "Klunkus,
blunkus, skunkus. This is the law!"
Answers will be recieved with great gratitude. (No need to rush, though - I'm
still on the synopsis and won't really need this information before I get to
the script itself.)
If anyone wonders why I'm asking these questions... Well, it is too early to
say if it ever will see print, as I'm only working on the synopsis so far, but
if it does, Azure Blue and Lawyor Sharky are the main villains of the story!
Best,
Olaf the Blue
Author
Topic: 200310
(424 messages)
Olaf Solstrand
Help needed on The Golden Helmet
Message 406 -
2003-10-29 at 02:56:45
SRoweCanoe
DCML Digest, Vol 8, Issue 55 (Al Hubbard)
Message 407 -
2003-10-29 at 04:25:43
In a message dated 10/28/2003 6:50:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kimba1962 at comcast.net writes:
Actually, Hubbard continued to appear in American Disney comics after he had
joined the overseas program. I was plowing thru a stack of 1970s WDC&S
(purchased at a con) last night and noted a new Hubbard-drawn SCAMP story that
appeared in an issue published in 1972.
oops, i knew that!
did a bunch of Aristocats too
steven rowe
kimba1962 at comcast.net writes:
Actually, Hubbard continued to appear in American Disney comics after he had
joined the overseas program. I was plowing thru a stack of 1970s WDC&S
(purchased at a con) last night and noted a new Hubbard-drawn SCAMP story that
appeared in an issue published in 1972.
oops, i knew that!
did a bunch of Aristocats too
steven rowe
Madame Jennifer Inantaz
The Golden Helmet~
Message 408 -
2003-10-29 at 05:51:37
I wanna help!!!
*whips out extra copy of 'The Golden Helmet'*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The answer to your first question (5th pg., last frame):
"The helmet! The ship! The map! All the fragments of those tales I
translated in Norway are fitting together! It is time to act!"
It'd be rather weird for a Norwegian to read that I'd think...
The answer to question two:
Sharky's legal language on page 7 is, "Flickus, flackus, fumdeedledum!" and
"Hocus, locus, jocus!".
"Hocus, locus, jocus" meaning "To the landlord belong the door knobs!"
Legal speak on page 14: "Yokus, crokus, spokus!" which means, "The boss
speaketh a jawful!"
On page 23:
"Octus, soctus bombifficus!" meaning, "That's telling 'em boss!". Also
"Clunkus, bunkus, skunkus!" as "It is the law!"
I hope that helps you!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I question for you: have you heard any word on whether any of your stories
will be printed English? 'Cause as I said before, I'd really like to read
one of your stories!
Jennifer the infamous ~*OchaGirl*~
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*whips out extra copy of 'The Golden Helmet'*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The answer to your first question (5th pg., last frame):
"The helmet! The ship! The map! All the fragments of those tales I
translated in Norway are fitting together! It is time to act!"
It'd be rather weird for a Norwegian to read that I'd think...
The answer to question two:
Sharky's legal language on page 7 is, "Flickus, flackus, fumdeedledum!" and
"Hocus, locus, jocus!".
"Hocus, locus, jocus" meaning "To the landlord belong the door knobs!"
Legal speak on page 14: "Yokus, crokus, spokus!" which means, "The boss
speaketh a jawful!"
On page 23:
"Octus, soctus bombifficus!" meaning, "That's telling 'em boss!". Also
"Clunkus, bunkus, skunkus!" as "It is the law!"
I hope that helps you!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I question for you: have you heard any word on whether any of your stories
will be printed English? 'Cause as I said before, I'd really like to read
one of your stories!
Jennifer the infamous ~*OchaGirl*~
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Al Hubbard
Message 409 -
2003-10-29 at 13:53:17
Didn't Hubbard do most of the stories in the Robin Hood series too that ran
in 1973 and 1974? I don't know that for sure, but the art in those comics
sure looks like his work.
Matthew A. Williams
in 1973 and 1974? I don't know that for sure, but the art in those comics
sure looks like his work.
Matthew A. Williams
Matthew Williams
The Golden Helmet~
Message 410 -
2003-10-29 at 14:03:30
Madame Jennifer Inantaz wrote:
>I question for you: have you heard any word on whether any of your stories
>will be printed English? 'Cause as I said before, I'd really like to read
>one of your stories!
Ditto from me, Olaf! The humor and imagination that you show in your posts
really make me want to see your work!
Matthew A. Williams
>I question for you: have you heard any word on whether any of your stories
>will be printed English? 'Cause as I said before, I'd really like to read
>one of your stories!
Ditto from me, Olaf! The humor and imagination that you show in your posts
really make me want to see your work!
Matthew A. Williams
Olaf Solstrand
The Golden Helmet~
Message 411 -
2003-10-29 at 15:22:38
Quoting Madame Jennifer Inantaz <madame82 at hotmail.com>:
> I wanna help!!!
You sure did! Thank you very, very much!
> I question for you: have you heard any word on whether any of your stories
> will be printed English? 'Cause as I said before, I'd really like to read
> one of your stories!
I haven't heard any word on this - and most likely I never will. That's a
decision completely in Gemstone's hands, and I don't really see why they would
notify me about such trivial things (concidering they print twenty-something
stories each month, most of them with two different creators). I just hope that
if they WILL print my stories, they print them in U$ or WDCS, one of the issues
I actually buy every month, so I get to see it myself. (If you should happen to
spot my name in e.g. "Donald Duck and Friends", let me know so that I can buy
it!)
Olaf the Blue
> I wanna help!!!
You sure did! Thank you very, very much!
> I question for you: have you heard any word on whether any of your stories
> will be printed English? 'Cause as I said before, I'd really like to read
> one of your stories!
I haven't heard any word on this - and most likely I never will. That's a
decision completely in Gemstone's hands, and I don't really see why they would
notify me about such trivial things (concidering they print twenty-something
stories each month, most of them with two different creators). I just hope that
if they WILL print my stories, they print them in U$ or WDCS, one of the issues
I actually buy every month, so I get to see it myself. (If you should happen to
spot my name in e.g. "Donald Duck and Friends", let me know so that I can buy
it!)
Olaf the Blue
Gary Leach
Money Bin model
Message 412 -
2003-10-29 at 15:25:46
To Mats Rune Gullikstad:
Let me add my congratulations to your accomplishment with your Money
Bin. I've always loved models, especially ones that really explore the
features of the item being modeled. Looks like you've done a great job
bringing this hallowed edifice into three dimensions, inside and out.
Good luck with the details that remain.
Gary
Let me add my congratulations to your accomplishment with your Money
Bin. I've always loved models, especially ones that really explore the
features of the item being modeled. Looks like you've done a great job
bringing this hallowed edifice into three dimensions, inside and out.
Good luck with the details that remain.
Gary
Olaf Solstrand
Rosa and Coleridge
Message 413 -
2003-10-29 at 19:12:52
Katie:
> When my class studied that poem in 12th grade I brought in that
> comic, particularly that panel of "Xanadu" that you described,
> to show everyone.
> I also brought in "Son of the Sun" to my Spanish class when we
> had a unit on the history of the Incas. When Atahualpa and
> Manco Capac came up in discussion, I simply couldn't resist!
I used the ten avatars in my religions exam a few years ago - and even though I
didn't bring and show the story, Don Rosa did all the research for me. :-)
> When my class studied that poem in 12th grade I brought in that
> comic, particularly that panel of "Xanadu" that you described,
> to show everyone.
> I also brought in "Son of the Sun" to my Spanish class when we
> had a unit on the history of the Incas. When Atahualpa and
> Manco Capac came up in discussion, I simply couldn't resist!
I used the ten avatars in my religions exam a few years ago - and even though I
didn't bring and show the story, Don Rosa did all the research for me. :-)
Katie Sullivan
Rosa and Coleridge
Message 414 -
2003-10-29 at 19:20:42
Matthew A. Williams wrote:
> In the class, we're discussing Samuel Taylor's Coleridge's
> "Kubla Khan." I
> had small groups looking at the poem on Monday, and they
> seemed to find it
> virtually incomprehensible. As I tried to explain difficult
> parts of the
> poem to them, I got off into talking about Tralla La! When I
> came home that
> evening, I quickly pulled out Rosa's "Return to Xanadu."
> Reading back
> through the comic, it struck me that page 6 serves as a
> perfect visual
> accompaniment to a discussion of the story! The ducklings
> quote the poem,
> there's a beautiful picture of the river Alph, and the
> ducklings even share
> background info on the poem. Anyway, I've put together a
> spiffy handout
> that will help my students understand and visualize Coleridge
> a bit better
> and will also introduce them to the work of Don Rosa and duck
> comics. Thank
> you, Mr. Rosa! If you had just managed to include something
> about
> Coleridge's opium dream... :)
What a great idea! Let us know how it goes! :D
When my class studied that poem in 12th grade I brought in that
comic, particularly that panel of "Xanadu" that you described,
to show everyone. Of course none of them had ever heard of Don
Rosa, or read a duck comic since DuckTales went off the air when
we were in elementary school. :-p So they weren't all that
interested, but I was pleased, anyway.
I also brought in "Son of the Sun" to my Spanish class when we
had a unit on the history of the Incas. When Atahualpa and
Manco Capac came up in discussion, I simply couldn't resist!
^_^
Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/
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> In the class, we're discussing Samuel Taylor's Coleridge's
> "Kubla Khan." I
> had small groups looking at the poem on Monday, and they
> seemed to find it
> virtually incomprehensible. As I tried to explain difficult
> parts of the
> poem to them, I got off into talking about Tralla La! When I
> came home that
> evening, I quickly pulled out Rosa's "Return to Xanadu."
> Reading back
> through the comic, it struck me that page 6 serves as a
> perfect visual
> accompaniment to a discussion of the story! The ducklings
> quote the poem,
> there's a beautiful picture of the river Alph, and the
> ducklings even share
> background info on the poem. Anyway, I've put together a
> spiffy handout
> that will help my students understand and visualize Coleridge
> a bit better
> and will also introduce them to the work of Don Rosa and duck
> comics. Thank
> you, Mr. Rosa! If you had just managed to include something
> about
> Coleridge's opium dream... :)
What a great idea! Let us know how it goes! :D
When my class studied that poem in 12th grade I brought in that
comic, particularly that panel of "Xanadu" that you described,
to show everyone. Of course none of them had ever heard of Don
Rosa, or read a duck comic since DuckTales went off the air when
we were in elementary school. :-p So they weren't all that
interested, but I was pleased, anyway.
I also brought in "Son of the Sun" to my Spanish class when we
had a unit on the history of the Incas. When Atahualpa and
Manco Capac came up in discussion, I simply couldn't resist!
^_^
Katie Sullivan
http://www.sullivanet.com/
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Kai Saarto
Rosa and Coleridge
Message 415 -
2003-10-29 at 19:46:17
Great idea. When my wife taught her highschool class about the religions
of India, I scanned some pictures form the "Treasure of Ten Avatars" (by
Don, also) for her to use.
When she starts teaching about the crusades (my pet peeve), I?ll know
where to get her information in a nice package (Crown of the Crusader
Kings).
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.go.to/donrosa
of India, I scanned some pictures form the "Treasure of Ten Avatars" (by
Don, also) for her to use.
When she starts teaching about the crusades (my pet peeve), I?ll know
where to get her information in a nice package (Crown of the Crusader
Kings).
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.go.to/donrosa
Arthur
W.i.t.c.h. and other 'girlie' Disney titles
Message 416 -
2003-10-29 at 21:51:37
Hi,
As you may know I have a website on Disney comics and magazines from around
the world at http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
I get a lot of emails from people, such as:
"Can you please sell W.i.t.c.h. in the United Arab Emirates?"
"How can I get Brazilian Disney magazines in Georgia?"
"Why did you stop Super Mickey in Egypt?"
Although my site clearly mentions that it is an unofficial fan site, people
still seem to often think that it is official. A lot of questions are about
how to subscribe to English Disney comics or to the ones by Gemstone in
particular. I have sent dozens of people to Gemstone's website where they
can subscribe.
I am really amazed by the popularity of W.i.t.c.h. around the world! I get a
lot of emails about it. The recent article that Lars Jensen sent around,
that was published in Publishers Weekly
(http://publishersweekly.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=
CA330761) mentions that W.i.t.c.h. is published in 42 countries around the
world! That must make it one of the most popular 'syndicated' Disney comics
ever! On my website visitors can rate each title from 1 to 10 and there are
5 publications of W.i.t.c.h. in the top 20 at the moment.
As I am updating my site lately and I get information from publishers or I
find information on publishers' websites, I get the impression that more and
more countries are canceling Disney comic titles and only keeping the ones
that are targeted at girls, like W.i.t.c.h and 'Princess Disney'-type
titles. I wonder why that is happening?
Kind regards,
Arthur
As you may know I have a website on Disney comics and magazines from around
the world at http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
I get a lot of emails from people, such as:
"Can you please sell W.i.t.c.h. in the United Arab Emirates?"
"How can I get Brazilian Disney magazines in Georgia?"
"Why did you stop Super Mickey in Egypt?"
Although my site clearly mentions that it is an unofficial fan site, people
still seem to often think that it is official. A lot of questions are about
how to subscribe to English Disney comics or to the ones by Gemstone in
particular. I have sent dozens of people to Gemstone's website where they
can subscribe.
I am really amazed by the popularity of W.i.t.c.h. around the world! I get a
lot of emails about it. The recent article that Lars Jensen sent around,
that was published in Publishers Weekly
(http://publishersweekly.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=
CA330761) mentions that W.i.t.c.h. is published in 42 countries around the
world! That must make it one of the most popular 'syndicated' Disney comics
ever! On my website visitors can rate each title from 1 to 10 and there are
5 publications of W.i.t.c.h. in the top 20 at the moment.
As I am updating my site lately and I get information from publishers or I
find information on publishers' websites, I get the impression that more and
more countries are canceling Disney comic titles and only keeping the ones
that are targeted at girls, like W.i.t.c.h and 'Princess Disney'-type
titles. I wonder why that is happening?
Kind regards,
Arthur
Stefan Diös
Rosa and Coleridge
Message 417 -
2003-10-30 at 13:29:22
On the related subject "Barks and Coleridge", I brought the Swedish version
of "The Not-so-ancient Mariner" (WDC 312) to class when we studied
Coleridge in high school some 25 years ago. The teacher was so impressed by
finding real poetry in a Duck comic that she immediately signed up as a
member of NAFS(k), our Donaldist society, even ending up as a member of the
board for one period.
And on the also related subject "Rosa and teaching", where I'm sure that
hundreds of similar examples can be given from aorund the world, I'll
contribute this little item: My sister, who is a teacher, ordered extra
copies of Rosa's "The Island at the Edge of Time" (also the Swedish
version, of course) in order to show her junior high students how the
international date line works. No textbook she had ever encountered, she
told me, managed to explain this phenomenon as clearly (not to mention
entertainingly!) as Don did in this story.
S Di?s
of "The Not-so-ancient Mariner" (WDC 312) to class when we studied
Coleridge in high school some 25 years ago. The teacher was so impressed by
finding real poetry in a Duck comic that she immediately signed up as a
member of NAFS(k), our Donaldist society, even ending up as a member of the
board for one period.
And on the also related subject "Rosa and teaching", where I'm sure that
hundreds of similar examples can be given from aorund the world, I'll
contribute this little item: My sister, who is a teacher, ordered extra
copies of Rosa's "The Island at the Edge of Time" (also the Swedish
version, of course) in order to show her junior high students how the
international date line works. No textbook she had ever encountered, she
told me, managed to explain this phenomenon as clearly (not to mention
entertainingly!) as Don did in this story.
S Di?s
Matthew Williams
Rosa and Coleridge
Message 418 -
2003-10-30 at 15:52:09
Just a footnote to my earlier posting: the Rosa handout went pretty well!
The students didn't jump up and ask where they could get subscriptions to
Disney comics at, but I think their understanding of Coleridge was
definitely enhanced!
On a similar note, last week my students came to my office for individual
conferences where I would read their rough drafts, and then we would discuss
their work. In the past, the experience has always been slightly awkward
because the students don't really have anything to do while I read their
work. This time I brought in a volume of the Carl Barks Library and it went
over pretty big. At least one student had read "Trick or Treat" before, in
an Austrian comic book no less!
Earlier in the semester too, I came up with a handout entitled "Carl Barks
and the Elements of Narrative." I basically photocopied "The Lemonade
Fling" and defined a bunch of literary terms (like round character, climax,
internal conflict, etc.) through it. It met my objectives quite nicely, and
it was neat to have a class reading a Barks story!
Anyway, I really like the comics and education stories! I 've always
believed that growing up reading Barks and Rosa and watching DuckTales gave
me a leg-up as I went through college and even grad school. The whole world
of the ducks brings together history, literature, and science quite well and
really helped me to contextualize as I went through school. Even though
some stories and details may not be 100% factual, the comics still inspired
me to learn more!
Matthew A. Williams
The students didn't jump up and ask where they could get subscriptions to
Disney comics at, but I think their understanding of Coleridge was
definitely enhanced!
On a similar note, last week my students came to my office for individual
conferences where I would read their rough drafts, and then we would discuss
their work. In the past, the experience has always been slightly awkward
because the students don't really have anything to do while I read their
work. This time I brought in a volume of the Carl Barks Library and it went
over pretty big. At least one student had read "Trick or Treat" before, in
an Austrian comic book no less!
Earlier in the semester too, I came up with a handout entitled "Carl Barks
and the Elements of Narrative." I basically photocopied "The Lemonade
Fling" and defined a bunch of literary terms (like round character, climax,
internal conflict, etc.) through it. It met my objectives quite nicely, and
it was neat to have a class reading a Barks story!
Anyway, I really like the comics and education stories! I 've always
believed that growing up reading Barks and Rosa and watching DuckTales gave
me a leg-up as I went through college and even grad school. The whole world
of the ducks brings together history, literature, and science quite well and
really helped me to contextualize as I went through school. Even though
some stories and details may not be 100% factual, the comics still inspired
me to learn more!
Matthew A. Williams
H.W.Fluks
Inducks issue dates
Message 419 -
2003-10-30 at 19:45:04
Ola wrote, some time ago:
> I've been comparing the issue dates in inducks versus the issue dates in
> Gerbers photo journal books for the Dell Giants. Some of these issues
> have different issue dates in these two sources.
>
> The ones that differ are
>
> title Gerber Inducks
> Vacation Parade 1 6-50 7-50
> Vacation Parade 2 6-51 7-51
> Vacation Parade 3 6-52 7-52
> Vacation Parade 4 6-53 7-53
> Vacation Parade 5 6-54 7-54
> Picnic Party 6 6-55 7-55
> Silly Symphonies 6 8-55 8-56
> Christmas Parade 8 11-56 12-56
> Picnic Party 8 6-57 7-57
> Christmas Parade 9 11-57 12-58
>
> Does anyone know what is the correct issue dates for these issues ?
I asked this to one of our experts on American comics, Martin Olsen.
This is his reply:
> Inducks is right (but also wrong).
> Inducks has defined the issue date in these cases as the date
> which can be derived from the code on the first page of the
> comic book. So e.g. Vacation Parade #1 is dated 7-50, because
> the code is W.D.V.P.#1-507.
> This does *not* mean that this issue was published in July,
> 1950. June 1950 is a likely date of issue for Vacation Parade
> #1 (but May is equally likely in my opinion), but we have
> chosen to list the printed date, which is July 1950. There is
> no reason to list a date which cannot be derived from
> information in the issue itself or in reliable information
> given elsewhere.
> This means that Inducks is right, as it reports the printed
> date, but Gerber may or may not be right as he reports an
> alleged month of issue.
>
> Two exceptions, where Gerber is definitely wrong, are Silly
> Symphonies #6 and Christmas Parade #9, where he has the year
> wrong. Silly Symphonies #6 has a printed year 1956 in the
> indicia (not 1955), and Christmas Parade #9 (1958) must have
> fooled Gerber because #8 was published in 1956. Apparently
> Gerber has overlooked the fact that the 1957 issue was not
> titled Christmas Parade but Christmas in Disneyland, so the
> Christmas Parade run jumps over one year.
>
> My conclusion is that Gerber has jumped to conclusions!
>
> Martin.
--Harry.
> I've been comparing the issue dates in inducks versus the issue dates in
> Gerbers photo journal books for the Dell Giants. Some of these issues
> have different issue dates in these two sources.
>
> The ones that differ are
>
> title Gerber Inducks
> Vacation Parade 1 6-50 7-50
> Vacation Parade 2 6-51 7-51
> Vacation Parade 3 6-52 7-52
> Vacation Parade 4 6-53 7-53
> Vacation Parade 5 6-54 7-54
> Picnic Party 6 6-55 7-55
> Silly Symphonies 6 8-55 8-56
> Christmas Parade 8 11-56 12-56
> Picnic Party 8 6-57 7-57
> Christmas Parade 9 11-57 12-58
>
> Does anyone know what is the correct issue dates for these issues ?
I asked this to one of our experts on American comics, Martin Olsen.
This is his reply:
> Inducks is right (but also wrong).
> Inducks has defined the issue date in these cases as the date
> which can be derived from the code on the first page of the
> comic book. So e.g. Vacation Parade #1 is dated 7-50, because
> the code is W.D.V.P.#1-507.
> This does *not* mean that this issue was published in July,
> 1950. June 1950 is a likely date of issue for Vacation Parade
> #1 (but May is equally likely in my opinion), but we have
> chosen to list the printed date, which is July 1950. There is
> no reason to list a date which cannot be derived from
> information in the issue itself or in reliable information
> given elsewhere.
> This means that Inducks is right, as it reports the printed
> date, but Gerber may or may not be right as he reports an
> alleged month of issue.
>
> Two exceptions, where Gerber is definitely wrong, are Silly
> Symphonies #6 and Christmas Parade #9, where he has the year
> wrong. Silly Symphonies #6 has a printed year 1956 in the
> indicia (not 1955), and Christmas Parade #9 (1958) must have
> fooled Gerber because #8 was published in 1956. Apparently
> Gerber has overlooked the fact that the 1957 issue was not
> titled Christmas Parade but Christmas in Disneyland, so the
> Christmas Parade run jumps over one year.
>
> My conclusion is that Gerber has jumped to conclusions!
>
> Martin.
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
John Nichols?
Message 420 -
2003-10-30 at 20:24:12
Does anyone know the e-mail address of John Nichols?
The one that I have doesn't work (I got a bounce message).
Thanks,
--Harry.
The one that I have doesn't work (I got a bounce message).
Thanks,
--Harry.