Hi, RICH and all......
Nick Kosarin wrote:
> The 'fountain of youth' scene is from 'Kids is Kids'.
> It was a cartoon but is part of Kids is Kids for Calisota.
>
... But it's not exact. The name of the cartoon is "Don's Fountain of
Youth", and was directed by Jack Hannah in 1953. "Kids is Kids" is a
TV special of 1961 directed by Ham Luske, hosted by Ludwig Von Drake,
which included the main part of the cartoon, mixed with new footage.
In 1963 it was distributed also in the thetres, joined with a live
action movie, in some countries (not Italy, indeed, surely
Scandinavian countries).
Bye
Luca Boschi
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Luca Boschi
Not "Kids is Kids"...
Message 1 -
1998-08-01 at 01:51:08
Tristan Havelick
Comic Appriciation and other Jazz
Message 2 -
1998-08-01 at 03:46:42
This was originally sent to the worng addres, but it is all by me.
>DONALD D.
>
>Don't get me wrong.. I don't collect games or comics as an investment.
>Although I refer to myself as collecting, I really see myself as a reader.
>I don't buy comics for thier finacial value, I collect them for the
stories.
>As for the Gladstone Albums, In my playing field as a college freshman with
>a minimumn wage job, Albums are pretty scarace within my budget (In Fact
>these new Prestige Format comics BARELEY fit my budget hint hint
Gladstone).
>
>Upon Reflection, I believe you are more correct than I was. I thought about
>it, and I realized something. I had already played (for long periods of
>time) all or most of the Good video games on my actuall systems. That is
>why I was bored by most of the emulator games. I realize now that 80% of
>classic video games probably are pretty low quality; whereas 99.99% of
>disney duck comics stories are high quality. I was drawing a metaphore
>between two very diffrent things. In the comic world, my emulator
>expirience would probably equate to working 10 years for a fair collection
>of Uncle Scrooge's, only to stumble upon 1000 different Bob Hope Comic
Books
>(Yes, there is actually a Bob Hope Comic series, although it didnt make it
>to the 1000's) for free. Of course the Bob Hope Comics will pale.
>
>In retrospect, you are correct. I think CD (perhaps series thereof)
wouldnt
>be such a bad idea. Probably a lot cheaper than Albumns too.
>
>(sorry to offend fans of "The Adventures of Bob Hope")
>
>
>JUHANA K KOUHIA
>
>>2. I see the recent colorizations might not be that good (I have seen good
>>ones too), and quality in old ones varies. We could as well colorize the
>>stories on our own. This solves the problems of scanning colors.
>
>You don't like recent colorizations? Maybe I mis-understand you. I
>personally much perfer to read my Gladstone Series II reprints over the
>originals from Dell or Gold Key. The colors look so much crisper and
>vibrant. I agree that It would solve the problem of scanning colors. I
>often scan a gag from a comic to use as my desktop background, and it never
>looks nearly as good as the original.
>
>ALL
>
>All this talk of CD deterioration amuses me. Back in the Early 80s, we had
>5.25 inch floppy disks. They failed after about a year or Two of use. So,
>they were replaced by 3 1/2" floppies which died within about 5 years.
Now,
>floppies have been replaced by CD's.. Soon DVDs will replace the
commonplace
>CD; and here we sit debating the age that CDs will last. Long before our
>CDs die, we will transfer them to something better.
>
>Glass will start to "melt" after a century or two. Should we stop making
>windows? I think not.
>
>--
>
>How much power does the Walt Disney Company have in their comic market?
>
>--
>
>I am really curios as to how many people like the Prestige Format vs. The
>Classic Format. Woud someone be willing to create a CGI form on thier
>webpage so we could all vote on this (I think it'd be too hard to manage it
>through the mailing list itself). I'd do it on my webpage, but I have free
>webspace, and of corse they fear CGI virises (virii?)
>
>
>
>
>
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #181
******************************************
>DONALD D.
>
>Don't get me wrong.. I don't collect games or comics as an investment.
>Although I refer to myself as collecting, I really see myself as a reader.
>I don't buy comics for thier finacial value, I collect them for the
stories.
>As for the Gladstone Albums, In my playing field as a college freshman with
>a minimumn wage job, Albums are pretty scarace within my budget (In Fact
>these new Prestige Format comics BARELEY fit my budget hint hint
Gladstone).
>
>Upon Reflection, I believe you are more correct than I was. I thought about
>it, and I realized something. I had already played (for long periods of
>time) all or most of the Good video games on my actuall systems. That is
>why I was bored by most of the emulator games. I realize now that 80% of
>classic video games probably are pretty low quality; whereas 99.99% of
>disney duck comics stories are high quality. I was drawing a metaphore
>between two very diffrent things. In the comic world, my emulator
>expirience would probably equate to working 10 years for a fair collection
>of Uncle Scrooge's, only to stumble upon 1000 different Bob Hope Comic
Books
>(Yes, there is actually a Bob Hope Comic series, although it didnt make it
>to the 1000's) for free. Of course the Bob Hope Comics will pale.
>
>In retrospect, you are correct. I think CD (perhaps series thereof)
wouldnt
>be such a bad idea. Probably a lot cheaper than Albumns too.
>
>(sorry to offend fans of "The Adventures of Bob Hope")
>
>
>JUHANA K KOUHIA
>
>>2. I see the recent colorizations might not be that good (I have seen good
>>ones too), and quality in old ones varies. We could as well colorize the
>>stories on our own. This solves the problems of scanning colors.
>
>You don't like recent colorizations? Maybe I mis-understand you. I
>personally much perfer to read my Gladstone Series II reprints over the
>originals from Dell or Gold Key. The colors look so much crisper and
>vibrant. I agree that It would solve the problem of scanning colors. I
>often scan a gag from a comic to use as my desktop background, and it never
>looks nearly as good as the original.
>
>ALL
>
>All this talk of CD deterioration amuses me. Back in the Early 80s, we had
>5.25 inch floppy disks. They failed after about a year or Two of use. So,
>they were replaced by 3 1/2" floppies which died within about 5 years.
Now,
>floppies have been replaced by CD's.. Soon DVDs will replace the
commonplace
>CD; and here we sit debating the age that CDs will last. Long before our
>CDs die, we will transfer them to something better.
>
>Glass will start to "melt" after a century or two. Should we stop making
>windows? I think not.
>
>--
>
>How much power does the Walt Disney Company have in their comic market?
>
>--
>
>I am really curios as to how many people like the Prestige Format vs. The
>Classic Format. Woud someone be willing to create a CGI form on thier
>webpage so we could all vote on this (I think it'd be too hard to manage it
>through the mailing list itself). I'd do it on my webpage, but I have free
>webspace, and of corse they fear CGI virises (virii?)
>
>
>
>
>
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #181
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Juhana K Kouhia
about hatching and CDs and love for the *stories*
Message 3 -
1998-08-01 at 10:56:56
>From: "www.conk.com/world/teme" <(Email removed)>
>
>But although CDs might not for eternity they still last longer, I should
>think, than print. And with me it isn't the paper, it is stories,
>characters, artwork and plots that entertain me.
Me too. I would not be interested in the originals if current stuff
would be made properly. As I have written here, it is far from properly.
>but I say when you reach that point your interest is no longer in the
>stories but in the *collection*)
But a CD can provide much more than paper: original line drawings,
various colorizations (or your own from hard disk), various translations
(or your own), various versions (after censor).
Yours,
Juhana
>
>But although CDs might not for eternity they still last longer, I should
>think, than print. And with me it isn't the paper, it is stories,
>characters, artwork and plots that entertain me.
Me too. I would not be interested in the originals if current stuff
would be made properly. As I have written here, it is far from properly.
>but I say when you reach that point your interest is no longer in the
>stories but in the *collection*)
But a CD can provide much more than paper: original line drawings,
various colorizations (or your own from hard disk), various translations
(or your own), various versions (after censor).
Yours,
Juhana
RobertK168
Eggshells
Message 4 -
1998-08-01 at 14:10:22
RICH BELLACERA wrote:
<<JUST FOR FUN:
Here is a scan form the Italian publication "I Classici di Walt
Disney" #93 titled "Happy Birthday Donald Duck"
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/Compleanno.gif>>
Thanks, Rich! I thought the picture was adorable, despite my continued
protestations about the eggs. Does anyone know if this story has been
reprinted in an American comic in the last few years?
Bob Kass
Arlington, MA
<<JUST FOR FUN:
Here is a scan form the Italian publication "I Classici di Walt
Disney" #93 titled "Happy Birthday Donald Duck"
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/Compleanno.gif>>
Thanks, Rich! I thought the picture was adorable, despite my continued
protestations about the eggs. Does anyone know if this story has been
reprinted in an American comic in the last few years?
Bob Kass
Arlington, MA
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V98 #181
Message 5 -
1998-08-01 at 15:00:55
>From: <(Email removed)>
>I'm leaving West Virginia with my family Saturday for a cross-crounty trip
to
>the Junior Woodchuck, I mean, National Boy Scout training camp in Philmont,
>New Mexico, where my boys are likely to earn a quart of awards. We'll be
>passing through Louisville, Kentucky, so if we see Don Rosa cutting his
grass
>we'll wave as we go by.
Stop by, why doncha? List-member Arthur Wolf had dinner here 3 days ago.
>From: "Henning Reichstein"
>Some time ago it was discussed if Don Rosa's art for "On A Silver
>Platter" had been "censored" by the Dutch editors. Even Don denied
>that, but someone on this list has an original page from the story,
>and claims that many details have been whited out.
>Maybe he can be talked into restoring it into it's original state?
Aha! I missed seeing that comment while browzing, otherwise I woulda spoke
up then.
I still don't think that they "censored" (or cleaned up) the art for that
story when it was printed... but I can't argue the point because I never sat
and compared the pages side-by-side with any published version. But they
would NEVER have been able to make such corrections by whiting out lines on
the original art as they *never had the original art* at Oberon! I sent
copies! All of the white-outs seen on that original art, or ANY of my
original art that anyone will ever see, is all made by ME. I white-out whole
vistas of detail and smooth out lines and even-up cross hatching on every
panel I ink. I once counted the corrections and noted that I make an average
of about 12-15 white-outs for various reasons in *each panel*.
So, if the idea that the published version of that story has been altered is
based on the fact the original art has been attacked mercilessly with white
ink, then it's not so, since I am the phantom white-outer myself.
>By The Way, about half my collection is weeklies - what purists
>would refer to as "comic books proper" - and the other half is
>pocket sized books with contents of mostly Italian origin.
Oh. You were counting comic "books", digests, and *foreign editions* in your
measurement? Ah, then *I* claim championship! I have three file cabinets
filled with foreign editions of my stories from all over the world, and I
have many more boxes of other foreign editions, comics and digests, my
stories or not.... well, I always carry these foreign comics to conventions
and give them away to kids, but if I had *kept* all those foreign Disney
comics that the publishers send me each week, I would easilly have hundreds
of feet (or meters) more of Disney comic stuff.
Nyaah.
>From: Eta Beta
>>But apart from a few C'n'D stories, I cannot
>>remember any GOOD story drawn by Bradbury!
>
>Well, he did quite a few Pluto's shorts that weren't bad at all, in the
>fifties, if one likes the "genre", that is, and some DD ones, too.
>But I guess I understand what you mean with "good" stories, here.
>Bradbury was mostly a short-story man, which means he hardly ever had
>material for an intricate plot to expand.
My friend Jim Engel, possibly the best "funny-animal" cartoonist in the
country, would want me to say something here:
Jack Bradbury is a great artist. Many people would say he's vastly superior
to Barks, art-wise. But he was simply an artist and not concerned with the
stories. Still, there are those who love "funny-animal" art and are not
interested in epic adventure stories, and, like my friend Jim, did not grow
up considering Barks "the Good Artist", but called him "the Weird Artist"
because he did not draw simple tales of cute animals. There were many better
artists in funny-animal comics than Barks, and the very best were over at
ACG comics in the late 40s - early 50s where Bradbury did most of his work.
But I didn't like / don't like funny-animal comics or art. I like Barks! Jim
prefers Bradbury and those sort of stories. One man's meat...
>From: "Tristan Havelick"
>>I don't collect games or comics as an investment.
>>Although I refer to myself as collecting, I really see myself as a reader.
>>I don't buy comics for thier finacial value, I collect them for the
>stories.
This is sad... "collecting" originally had *nothing* whatsoever with this
idea of gathering and hoarding something simply for future financial value.
Until the 80's, "collecting" simply was gathering some hard-to-find (but
NONvaluable) item that you had a personal aesthetic interest in simply for
the fun of seeing if you could complete a series or get all-of-a-kind. It
wasn't until the 80s that the masses, forever puzzled as to why anyone would
spend so much time on something intellectual or which didn't turn a profit,
decided to start publishing damned price guides of everything in the
universe, and suddenly everyone was a "collector" of stuff they had no
interest in other to later resell..... and this finally, sadly resulted in
the idea that a "collector" is someone who is seeking financial enhancement
rather than intellectual pleasure. And then there's this 80's non-word
"collectibles" created for use by just these people. Ugh.
>>In the comic world, my emulator
>>expirience would probably equate to working 10 years for a fair collection
>>of Uncle Scrooge's, only to stumble upon 1000 different Bob Hope Comic
>Books
Wow! If this ever happens, call me! I love old BOB HOPE comics, and I
actually *don't* yet have them all.
>>You don't like recent colorizations? Maybe I mis-understand you. I
>>personally much perfer to read my Gladstone Series II reprints over the
>>originals from Dell or Gold Key. The colors look so much crisper and
>>vibrant.
This is not a reference to Gladstone comics specifically... but put me down
as someone who also prefers the old-style of comic book coloring. Those
lovely "crisp and vibrant" colors spoil the stories, I think. I like the old
pale Dell coloring which didn't hide the art and story. The coloring should
not be so noticeable in comics... it's just a detail to enhance the art, not
dominate it. Well, I know I'm in a minority nowadays, judging by the garish
colors that have filled comics for 10 years or so... but gimmee the old Dell
or DC color printing of the 50s any day.
>I'm leaving West Virginia with my family Saturday for a cross-crounty trip
to
>the Junior Woodchuck, I mean, National Boy Scout training camp in Philmont,
>New Mexico, where my boys are likely to earn a quart of awards. We'll be
>passing through Louisville, Kentucky, so if we see Don Rosa cutting his
grass
>we'll wave as we go by.
Stop by, why doncha? List-member Arthur Wolf had dinner here 3 days ago.
>From: "Henning Reichstein"
>Some time ago it was discussed if Don Rosa's art for "On A Silver
>Platter" had been "censored" by the Dutch editors. Even Don denied
>that, but someone on this list has an original page from the story,
>and claims that many details have been whited out.
>Maybe he can be talked into restoring it into it's original state?
Aha! I missed seeing that comment while browzing, otherwise I woulda spoke
up then.
I still don't think that they "censored" (or cleaned up) the art for that
story when it was printed... but I can't argue the point because I never sat
and compared the pages side-by-side with any published version. But they
would NEVER have been able to make such corrections by whiting out lines on
the original art as they *never had the original art* at Oberon! I sent
copies! All of the white-outs seen on that original art, or ANY of my
original art that anyone will ever see, is all made by ME. I white-out whole
vistas of detail and smooth out lines and even-up cross hatching on every
panel I ink. I once counted the corrections and noted that I make an average
of about 12-15 white-outs for various reasons in *each panel*.
So, if the idea that the published version of that story has been altered is
based on the fact the original art has been attacked mercilessly with white
ink, then it's not so, since I am the phantom white-outer myself.
>By The Way, about half my collection is weeklies - what purists
>would refer to as "comic books proper" - and the other half is
>pocket sized books with contents of mostly Italian origin.
Oh. You were counting comic "books", digests, and *foreign editions* in your
measurement? Ah, then *I* claim championship! I have three file cabinets
filled with foreign editions of my stories from all over the world, and I
have many more boxes of other foreign editions, comics and digests, my
stories or not.... well, I always carry these foreign comics to conventions
and give them away to kids, but if I had *kept* all those foreign Disney
comics that the publishers send me each week, I would easilly have hundreds
of feet (or meters) more of Disney comic stuff.
Nyaah.
>From: Eta Beta
>>But apart from a few C'n'D stories, I cannot
>>remember any GOOD story drawn by Bradbury!
>
>Well, he did quite a few Pluto's shorts that weren't bad at all, in the
>fifties, if one likes the "genre", that is, and some DD ones, too.
>But I guess I understand what you mean with "good" stories, here.
>Bradbury was mostly a short-story man, which means he hardly ever had
>material for an intricate plot to expand.
My friend Jim Engel, possibly the best "funny-animal" cartoonist in the
country, would want me to say something here:
Jack Bradbury is a great artist. Many people would say he's vastly superior
to Barks, art-wise. But he was simply an artist and not concerned with the
stories. Still, there are those who love "funny-animal" art and are not
interested in epic adventure stories, and, like my friend Jim, did not grow
up considering Barks "the Good Artist", but called him "the Weird Artist"
because he did not draw simple tales of cute animals. There were many better
artists in funny-animal comics than Barks, and the very best were over at
ACG comics in the late 40s - early 50s where Bradbury did most of his work.
But I didn't like / don't like funny-animal comics or art. I like Barks! Jim
prefers Bradbury and those sort of stories. One man's meat...
>From: "Tristan Havelick"
>>I don't collect games or comics as an investment.
>>Although I refer to myself as collecting, I really see myself as a reader.
>>I don't buy comics for thier finacial value, I collect them for the
>stories.
This is sad... "collecting" originally had *nothing* whatsoever with this
idea of gathering and hoarding something simply for future financial value.
Until the 80's, "collecting" simply was gathering some hard-to-find (but
NONvaluable) item that you had a personal aesthetic interest in simply for
the fun of seeing if you could complete a series or get all-of-a-kind. It
wasn't until the 80s that the masses, forever puzzled as to why anyone would
spend so much time on something intellectual or which didn't turn a profit,
decided to start publishing damned price guides of everything in the
universe, and suddenly everyone was a "collector" of stuff they had no
interest in other to later resell..... and this finally, sadly resulted in
the idea that a "collector" is someone who is seeking financial enhancement
rather than intellectual pleasure. And then there's this 80's non-word
"collectibles" created for use by just these people. Ugh.
>>In the comic world, my emulator
>>expirience would probably equate to working 10 years for a fair collection
>>of Uncle Scrooge's, only to stumble upon 1000 different Bob Hope Comic
>Books
Wow! If this ever happens, call me! I love old BOB HOPE comics, and I
actually *don't* yet have them all.
>>You don't like recent colorizations? Maybe I mis-understand you. I
>>personally much perfer to read my Gladstone Series II reprints over the
>>originals from Dell or Gold Key. The colors look so much crisper and
>>vibrant.
This is not a reference to Gladstone comics specifically... but put me down
as someone who also prefers the old-style of comic book coloring. Those
lovely "crisp and vibrant" colors spoil the stories, I think. I like the old
pale Dell coloring which didn't hide the art and story. The coloring should
not be so noticeable in comics... it's just a detail to enhance the art, not
dominate it. Well, I know I'm in a minority nowadays, judging by the garish
colors that have filled comics for 10 years or so... but gimmee the old Dell
or DC color printing of the 50s any day.
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
Disney comics Digest V98 #181
Message 6 -
1998-08-01 at 17:00:56
Hello friends
> NAFS(k) actually has an entry in the huge Swedish "Nationalencyklopedin",
> even though "Donaldism" or "ankism" have not. I'm more than a little
proud
> that something I have been part of, originally more or less as a gag (at
> least according to outsiders), has been "seriously accepted" in this
way...
> But there are still some small portions of the population, like your
> acquaintances, that need enlightenment! (Actually, quite large portions.)
I would like to know what word to look for in that encyclopedia, Stefan
> In this case, my point was that I couldn't understand why you were
talking
> about peas at all. But now you told me... "green peas" in Danish are
"green
> woodpeckers" in Swedish and "greenhorns" in English... right? Sounds easy
> enough. You live and learn.
I think you understood it, yes
Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen
First, Ole, would you know what a mint issue of that number one would be
worth?
> Anders Sivebaek: It's nice to hear you enjoyed your trip to the
> neighbouring countries, and added a few feet to your disney
> collection :-)
Well, I don't really work in them feets, 20 cm's perhaps (The collection
must be around 7 m (maybe that's about 23 feet, not much!)
It's sad about all those albums that aren't in DK anymore, especially the
dailies-albums of which I have the 4 Danish Issues.
> "Musone" is Gloomy, and "Enigm" is Professor Einmug, both characters
> from the old Gottfredson days, as is the villain with the moustache,
> known in Denmark as "Sorte Slyngel" and in Sweden "Sorte Klat".
Thanks for this, and all the other "infoes", but I
realise that they are not always the same
> prof. Krinkelkrogh/Saehr/Lunetta/Rebus/Ferm/Cumulus/Finurlig/Rahr and
> dr. Kvalm, as well as Otto Man (in a crossword/puzzle book)...
Now, about that mr. Saehr (Strange) was that not another
prof. too, I remember him as working together with a mr.
Kloghsen (Wise), in the danish Pocket-books. They had
a time-mashine which Mickey and Goofy use in those series;
what's their names in your countries?
About those non-persons, have I got this right Ludwig von Drake does not
exist in Egmont-stories anymore? That's sad, that's very sad :-(
> I had NO idea your question was so difficult, when I sat down to
> answer it, but it's surprising how much you can learn with a good
> database and 20 meters of source material. :-)
Well, thank you anyway (Wow, that's sounds like a lot to little me!)
> NAFS(k) actually has an entry in the huge Swedish "Nationalencyklopedin",
> even though "Donaldism" or "ankism" have not. I'm more than a little
proud
> that something I have been part of, originally more or less as a gag (at
> least according to outsiders), has been "seriously accepted" in this
way...
> But there are still some small portions of the population, like your
> acquaintances, that need enlightenment! (Actually, quite large portions.)
I would like to know what word to look for in that encyclopedia, Stefan
> In this case, my point was that I couldn't understand why you were
talking
> about peas at all. But now you told me... "green peas" in Danish are
"green
> woodpeckers" in Swedish and "greenhorns" in English... right? Sounds easy
> enough. You live and learn.
I think you understood it, yes
Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen
First, Ole, would you know what a mint issue of that number one would be
worth?
> Anders Sivebaek: It's nice to hear you enjoyed your trip to the
> neighbouring countries, and added a few feet to your disney
> collection :-)
Well, I don't really work in them feets, 20 cm's perhaps (The collection
must be around 7 m (maybe that's about 23 feet, not much!)
It's sad about all those albums that aren't in DK anymore, especially the
dailies-albums of which I have the 4 Danish Issues.
> "Musone" is Gloomy, and "Enigm" is Professor Einmug, both characters
> from the old Gottfredson days, as is the villain with the moustache,
> known in Denmark as "Sorte Slyngel" and in Sweden "Sorte Klat".
Thanks for this, and all the other "infoes", but I
realise that they are not always the same
> prof. Krinkelkrogh/Saehr/Lunetta/Rebus/Ferm/Cumulus/Finurlig/Rahr and
> dr. Kvalm, as well as Otto Man (in a crossword/puzzle book)...
Now, about that mr. Saehr (Strange) was that not another
prof. too, I remember him as working together with a mr.
Kloghsen (Wise), in the danish Pocket-books. They had
a time-mashine which Mickey and Goofy use in those series;
what's their names in your countries?
About those non-persons, have I got this right Ludwig von Drake does not
exist in Egmont-stories anymore? That's sad, that's very sad :-(
> I had NO idea your question was so difficult, when I sat down to
> answer it, but it's surprising how much you can learn with a good
> database and 20 meters of source material. :-)
Well, thank you anyway (Wow, that's sounds like a lot to little me!)
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
What A Day
Message 7 -
1998-08-01 at 17:53:11
Hello again friends
Today I borrowed the car and drove to the nearest city.
First I went to the library where I found issue 4 of a comics
with a swedich duck named Arne (There's a copyright story
about him, which a swedish person should be able to tell us)
Then I went to the old-comics-shop where I have spent many
hours of the years gone by! He's just had a "rebuild" so there's
much more place for the disney comic (books)
Well, what did I find? a Fethry Duck-story, a van Horn-story
(D 921459), another two Fethry Duck-stories where he's a
journalist, a Paul Murry-story (WDC 449), and an extra-issue
with 3 stories of the, what I would call, expert-stories (You
know, Don's an expert and he falls very deep when it goes
wrong). Along with these I also found a comic-book featuring
Millie and Melody (or is it Tillie), They wear pink clothes
(D 5366 in AA 82-31).
Then I went to the pocket-book shelf, where I found the book
where the story about Altacraz is. For some reason they call it
Sing-Song. I also bought another book issuing some Scarpa-
stories. Thanks to SKO, because I visited he's page and found
out where to find the stories.
Then, the most important thing, was that the salesman, didn't
know who Barks was. He just showed me a shelf with american
comics which I never noticed before!
I bought Donald Duck adventures no. 5, which along with a
barks-story has Don's two-pager (AR 116)
Then I found Mickey and Donald no. 3. It has the first story
with Mickey's space friend (What was it... (some minuts later)
Eega Beewa, right?) Sad, that Goofy doesn't believe he's real!
It also presents The Firebug (DDOS 108). As some other member
said, why don't some artist reconstruct those two last panels so
that we can see them, I don't mind Doanld sitting behind bars,
I've seen that before! I also bought DD no. 264.
Then off home, where There was a package from A comic store
in Copenhagen. Now I also have LICGY no. 1 issuing a lot of Barks'
Gyro stories, great. Even if I was adviced not to buy it, I also
received no 7 from 1961 of the danish weekly.
It's almost a clean Barks-issue. The front-cover is by Barks,
there's a one-page-gag by him, two Grandma Duck-stories
(I have not got either one of them), there's also a continued
story by Barks (Back to long ago) but luckily I have that story
collected in one book.
Today I ordered the issues 2,3 and 6 of the Barks Library
of Gyro, and LICW 51 too, according to the database it has
the two whole stories not published by Western. Was there
not some apple story too, that was never published?
Today I borrowed the car and drove to the nearest city.
First I went to the library where I found issue 4 of a comics
with a swedich duck named Arne (There's a copyright story
about him, which a swedish person should be able to tell us)
Then I went to the old-comics-shop where I have spent many
hours of the years gone by! He's just had a "rebuild" so there's
much more place for the disney comic (books)
Well, what did I find? a Fethry Duck-story, a van Horn-story
(D 921459), another two Fethry Duck-stories where he's a
journalist, a Paul Murry-story (WDC 449), and an extra-issue
with 3 stories of the, what I would call, expert-stories (You
know, Don's an expert and he falls very deep when it goes
wrong). Along with these I also found a comic-book featuring
Millie and Melody (or is it Tillie), They wear pink clothes
(D 5366 in AA 82-31).
Then I went to the pocket-book shelf, where I found the book
where the story about Altacraz is. For some reason they call it
Sing-Song. I also bought another book issuing some Scarpa-
stories. Thanks to SKO, because I visited he's page and found
out where to find the stories.
Then, the most important thing, was that the salesman, didn't
know who Barks was. He just showed me a shelf with american
comics which I never noticed before!
I bought Donald Duck adventures no. 5, which along with a
barks-story has Don's two-pager (AR 116)
Then I found Mickey and Donald no. 3. It has the first story
with Mickey's space friend (What was it... (some minuts later)
Eega Beewa, right?) Sad, that Goofy doesn't believe he's real!
It also presents The Firebug (DDOS 108). As some other member
said, why don't some artist reconstruct those two last panels so
that we can see them, I don't mind Doanld sitting behind bars,
I've seen that before! I also bought DD no. 264.
Then off home, where There was a package from A comic store
in Copenhagen. Now I also have LICGY no. 1 issuing a lot of Barks'
Gyro stories, great. Even if I was adviced not to buy it, I also
received no 7 from 1961 of the danish weekly.
It's almost a clean Barks-issue. The front-cover is by Barks,
there's a one-page-gag by him, two Grandma Duck-stories
(I have not got either one of them), there's also a continued
story by Barks (Back to long ago) but luckily I have that story
collected in one book.
Today I ordered the issues 2,3 and 6 of the Barks Library
of Gyro, and LICW 51 too, according to the database it has
the two whole stories not published by Western. Was there
not some apple story too, that was never published?
Juhana K Kouhia
Disney comics Digest V98 #181
Message 8 -
1998-08-01 at 17:54:46
>From: Erik Hørthe <(Email removed)>@ns.applause.no
>Subject: Disney Index in Finland?
>
>In -The Ultimate Disney Trivia Book- that was written by Kevin Neary and
>Dave Smith, one of the questions are: In 1978 a group of Finns cencored
>Donald Duck comics. What didn t they like about his clothing? The answer:
>They were shocked that Donald Duck doesn t wear pants. Two questions pop
>up: What group of Finns were these people? And what did they do when they
>cencored Aku Ankka, did they really give him pants?
I'm only repeating what I have heard of the incident:
Finnish communists wanted to rethink what magazines is okay to subscribe
to a public library. That was considered as silly here and one non-communist
congress man was joking that then Donald Duck should not subscribed because
they have no pans. This joke was then distributed as true initiative among
the foreign journalists. Nothing was censored.
>From: Stefan Diös <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Re: Recent Digests
>
>"WORKERS' PARADISE"
[ ... ]
>But I kept the "McDuck Industries" intact, instead of going back to
>"workers' paradise". Why? Because I think it's much better. No political
>statement, just my opinion of humorous story-telling. That panel (and that
>whole scene) is brilliant, and works even better with the reference to
>"McDuck Industries", especially with Scrooge's facial expression.
I noticed too that it "works" because of Scrooge's facial expression.
But, simply: it is not what Carl Barks was thinking!
I'm sure a translator can make any story "better" but that is not
then a translation.
>From: "Tristan Havelick" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Fw: Comic Appriciation and other Jazz
>
>>You don't like recent colorizations? Maybe I mis-understand you.
I wrote earlier about differences in a recent version and an old version.
I saw that the recent version was not that good and had severe ruinings.
Ok, that "good" part might be a personal opinion: I just dislike when
the sky color changes from blue to green to burble to yellow and so on.
(In old version sky was always blue.)
Otherwise, I do like recent colorings.
>I agree that It would solve the problem of scanning colors.
Well, some recent colorings are so badly done that line drawings are
breaking. It would be silly to use such version for making a CD.
If a CD is done, then it should be done correctly at once.
Yours,
Juhana
>Subject: Disney Index in Finland?
>
>In -The Ultimate Disney Trivia Book- that was written by Kevin Neary and
>Dave Smith, one of the questions are: In 1978 a group of Finns cencored
>Donald Duck comics. What didn t they like about his clothing? The answer:
>They were shocked that Donald Duck doesn t wear pants. Two questions pop
>up: What group of Finns were these people? And what did they do when they
>cencored Aku Ankka, did they really give him pants?
I'm only repeating what I have heard of the incident:
Finnish communists wanted to rethink what magazines is okay to subscribe
to a public library. That was considered as silly here and one non-communist
congress man was joking that then Donald Duck should not subscribed because
they have no pans. This joke was then distributed as true initiative among
the foreign journalists. Nothing was censored.
>From: Stefan Diös <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Re: Recent Digests
>
>"WORKERS' PARADISE"
[ ... ]
>But I kept the "McDuck Industries" intact, instead of going back to
>"workers' paradise". Why? Because I think it's much better. No political
>statement, just my opinion of humorous story-telling. That panel (and that
>whole scene) is brilliant, and works even better with the reference to
>"McDuck Industries", especially with Scrooge's facial expression.
I noticed too that it "works" because of Scrooge's facial expression.
But, simply: it is not what Carl Barks was thinking!
I'm sure a translator can make any story "better" but that is not
then a translation.
>From: "Tristan Havelick" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Fw: Comic Appriciation and other Jazz
>
>>You don't like recent colorizations? Maybe I mis-understand you.
I wrote earlier about differences in a recent version and an old version.
I saw that the recent version was not that good and had severe ruinings.
Ok, that "good" part might be a personal opinion: I just dislike when
the sky color changes from blue to green to burble to yellow and so on.
(In old version sky was always blue.)
Otherwise, I do like recent colorings.
>I agree that It would solve the problem of scanning colors.
Well, some recent colorings are so badly done that line drawings are
breaking. It would be silly to use such version for making a CD.
If a CD is done, then it should be done correctly at once.
Yours,
Juhana
Michael Naiman
Convention
Message 9 -
1998-08-01 at 19:13:08
Any of the ML folk coming to San Diego for the "Big Show" (other than
ex-patriot Gerstein) ?? I'd like to meet & greet you if you're coming to my
fair town...
If you are looking for any particular product I can guide you to the proper
dealer...just ask Frank Stajano (the man with the overweight comicbook
suitcase).
ex-patriot Gerstein) ?? I'd like to meet & greet you if you're coming to my
fair town...
If you are looking for any particular product I can guide you to the proper
dealer...just ask Frank Stajano (the man with the overweight comicbook
suitcase).
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
Rockerduck in Denmark
Message 10 -
1998-08-01 at 21:14:30
Hello again friends
The other day you talked about Rockerduck's nephews.
I would like to now (again) where I can find
Rockerduck's second appearence in Denmark, which
must be an italian story S. Krarup O. (SKO)
can you help me?
Anders Christian
(Email removed)
The other day you talked about Rockerduck's nephews.
I would like to now (again) where I can find
Rockerduck's second appearence in Denmark, which
must be an italian story S. Krarup O. (SKO)
can you help me?
Anders Christian
(Email removed)
GMRoser
DR-stories in MM
Message 11 -
1998-08-02 at 00:09:29
Helmut:
>Can someone tell me, in what 'Micky Maus'-issues the last Don-Rosa-stories
> were published.
>(I got only informations until 'WHADALOTTAJARGON' in the me-known
>Rosa-Indices).
DR's Gladstone anniversary story was presented in MM 8, the Eldorado story
appeared in MM 22-23 and The Black Knight was published in MM 28-29.
-- Gilbert
>Can someone tell me, in what 'Micky Maus'-issues the last Don-Rosa-stories
> were published.
>(I got only informations until 'WHADALOTTAJARGON' in the me-known
>Rosa-Indices).
DR's Gladstone anniversary story was presented in MM 8, the Eldorado story
appeared in MM 22-23 and The Black Knight was published in MM 28-29.
-- Gilbert
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V98 #181
Message 12 -
1998-08-02 at 09:54:05
STEFAN DIOS:
> > By the way, how
> > was the very funny "Coral Barques" line in Don Rosa's "Tresure Under
> > Glass" dealt with in various translations?
>
> I did the Swedish translation for this one, and I have to admit I never even
> noticed the gag!
If it's any consolation, I only realized there *was* a gag while reading
the part of your message that I'm quoting.
I must be the last person in the world to get this pun! To my defense,
I don't read comics out loud and, as I mentioned earlier, one tends to
read in terms of patterns/words rather than letters that form words...
HENNING REICHSTEIN:
> I use both sides of the shelves...
You mean the top and *bottom* sides?
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Starship captains are a special breed of beings who boldly go, et cetera."
-----
> > By the way, how
> > was the very funny "Coral Barques" line in Don Rosa's "Tresure Under
> > Glass" dealt with in various translations?
>
> I did the Swedish translation for this one, and I have to admit I never even
> noticed the gag!
If it's any consolation, I only realized there *was* a gag while reading
the part of your message that I'm quoting.
I must be the last person in the world to get this pun! To my defense,
I don't read comics out loud and, as I mentioned earlier, one tends to
read in terms of patterns/words rather than letters that form words...
HENNING REICHSTEIN:
> I use both sides of the shelves...
You mean the top and *bottom* sides?
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Starship captains are a special breed of beings who boldly go, et cetera."
-----
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V98 #182
Message 13 -
1998-08-02 at 10:19:58
DON:
> I had *kept* all those foreign Disney
> comics that the publishers send me each week, I would easilly have hundreds
> of feet (or meters) more of Disney comic stuff.
As with collecting string, it's the length that you have managed to keep
that counts! Although even that is probably enough to give you the Comic
Book Champ title, I'm sure that all of us would have had several more
meters of comic books if we had kept everything they had ever bought.
A question for you and all those with meters upon meters and feet upon
feet of comics: What do you *do* with all those comics? To start the
discussion here's what I do with my mediocre collection:
For regular comic books, I start from the leftmost comic book at the
top shelf, slowly read through the entire collection until I reach the
rightmost comic book at the bottom shelf, then start all over again. Not
surprisingly, each time I go through the collection it takes longer than
the previous time, as I keep adding to the collection. This does not
hold true for the B&W CBL and the Gladstone albums, which have been read
once and never been re-read again, as for reasons I have stated before,
I like to read comics laying them flat on the table. I wonder what I'll
do when it's the new prestige format comic books' turn.
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Starship captains are a special breed of beings who boldly go, et cetera."
-----
> I had *kept* all those foreign Disney
> comics that the publishers send me each week, I would easilly have hundreds
> of feet (or meters) more of Disney comic stuff.
As with collecting string, it's the length that you have managed to keep
that counts! Although even that is probably enough to give you the Comic
Book Champ title, I'm sure that all of us would have had several more
meters of comic books if we had kept everything they had ever bought.
A question for you and all those with meters upon meters and feet upon
feet of comics: What do you *do* with all those comics? To start the
discussion here's what I do with my mediocre collection:
For regular comic books, I start from the leftmost comic book at the
top shelf, slowly read through the entire collection until I reach the
rightmost comic book at the bottom shelf, then start all over again. Not
surprisingly, each time I go through the collection it takes longer than
the previous time, as I keep adding to the collection. This does not
hold true for the B&W CBL and the Gladstone albums, which have been read
once and never been re-read again, as for reasons I have stated before,
I like to read comics laying them flat on the table. I wonder what I'll
do when it's the new prestige format comic books' turn.
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Starship captains are a special breed of beings who boldly go, et cetera."
-----
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Anders and Rockerduck
Message 14 -
1998-08-02 at 17:26:29
Anders:
You can find the Rockerduck scans (that Eta Beta provided)
and a short Danish explanation on my site http://sko.nu
Enter the "Italiensk galleria", enter the Bordini section and
you're almost there... :-)
Soeren
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #182
******************************************
You can find the Rockerduck scans (that Eta Beta provided)
and a short Danish explanation on my site http://sko.nu
Enter the "Italiensk galleria", enter the Bordini section and
you're almost there... :-)
Soeren
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #182
******************************************
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
Br'er Bear
Message 15 -
1998-08-02 at 22:31:46
Hello friends
I have a question for all you Wolf-readers
Is there one or two Bears in the forest outside
Duckburg were the Wolfs and the Rabbits Live?
On the character page it seems like there's only one...
But he has so different personality in different stories.
E. g. in a story with Br'er Rabbit, he and Br'er Fox
will catch the Rabbit and try to cook him,
(somehow they never succeed in doing that...
just like BBW and the pigs... )
And in the stories with Li'l Bad Wolf there's a bear
(we call him farmer Bear, who is friendly and helps
the pigs, he even knocks BBW on the head or shoots
him when he tries to eat the pigs (But BBW is never
hurt; don't forget the kids).
In those stories, perhaps they are newer than other,
he also sometimes has a wife and two kids.
A total different question, directed to Harry,
when was the Disney Comics Database created,
and what about the ftp archive? I was just
wondering because until two years ago I actually
thought that it was only me among normal people,
that had noticed something called story codes
(how stupid can one be ;-)
Thanks for the answer SKO, I have looked at the
pictures, and of cause thanks to Eta Beta too,
even though I couldn't spell your name at first!
Anders Christian
(Email removed)
I have a question for all you Wolf-readers
Is there one or two Bears in the forest outside
Duckburg were the Wolfs and the Rabbits Live?
On the character page it seems like there's only one...
But he has so different personality in different stories.
E. g. in a story with Br'er Rabbit, he and Br'er Fox
will catch the Rabbit and try to cook him,
(somehow they never succeed in doing that...
just like BBW and the pigs... )
And in the stories with Li'l Bad Wolf there's a bear
(we call him farmer Bear, who is friendly and helps
the pigs, he even knocks BBW on the head or shoots
him when he tries to eat the pigs (But BBW is never
hurt; don't forget the kids).
In those stories, perhaps they are newer than other,
he also sometimes has a wife and two kids.
A total different question, directed to Harry,
when was the Disney Comics Database created,
and what about the ftp archive? I was just
wondering because until two years ago I actually
thought that it was only me among normal people,
that had noticed something called story codes
(how stupid can one be ;-)
Thanks for the answer SKO, I have looked at the
pictures, and of cause thanks to Eta Beta too,
even though I couldn't spell your name at first!
Anders Christian
(Email removed)