Joakim:
(It's a honour for me to be able to give information to the editor of the
Swedish edition of PK!)
>Found this message from Marco just after having sent my latest posting.
>What about the 0/2 and 0/3 issues then? Does they exist?
Yes.
While it was still being questioned whether the PKNA project would carry
on, after issue 0 (Zero) they published (on a random date basis) issue 0/2
(Zero-slash-two) and 0/3 (Zero-slash-three).
Thereafter the "regular" numbering started from 1 (One).
By the way, YOUR issue #1 is our 0/2 (I think). Certainly our issue #0 was
never printed outside Italy and is not being reprinted even here in Italy.
It has been -in a sense- forbidden!
I can't tell what was wrong with that issue 0. Please give a look for
yourself to my WWW page devoted to that problem
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Censored/PKNA
and let me know your opinion!
Marco
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Marco Barlotti
PKNA 0/2 and 0/3
Message 271 -
1998-08-15 at 20:06:13
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
David Gerstein
Message 272 -
1998-08-15 at 20:07:10
Hello
DAVID
I don't know if you think it's unpolite to ask,
but where do you come from, what natonality are you?
your last name, does it mean anything?
DAVID
I don't know if you think it's unpolite to ask,
but where do you come from, what natonality are you?
your last name, does it mean anything?
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
Summaries and how often the list comes out to us
Message 273 -
1998-08-15 at 22:45:47
Hello
For some months now, summaries has been presently not
available. Why?
Is the database still being updated; I suppose that takes time...
Many people (I hope) look on the pages, and if they cannot
read the summaries it makes it harder to find the story mentioned!
I don't think it says in the welcoming message how many mailing
lists are supposed to be posted a day, or how many mails there,
at least has to be on a list?
For some months now, summaries has been presently not
available. Why?
Is the database still being updated; I suppose that takes time...
Many people (I hope) look on the pages, and if they cannot
read the summaries it makes it harder to find the story mentioned!
I don't think it says in the welcoming message how many mailing
lists are supposed to be posted a day, or how many mails there,
at least has to be on a list?
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Things falling from sky on Discovery channel
Message 274 -
1998-08-15 at 22:54:29
PAOLO CASTAGNO to FRANCESCO SPREAFICO, 10 August 1998:
>> Well, I actually believed that the sardine rain was a real thing [...]
>> I even managed in convincing friends of mine it was true! :-) Mind
>> you, I was three!
> Hey, I was.. maybe 6 or 7, but I belived that sardines were raining on
> Tegucigalpa too!
I remember that one Discovery Channel programme actually *was* about
strange things (like vegetables and ice-blocks) falling out of the sky,
it must have been part of a series on mysteries. Could there be a
connection? Is there someone who remembers that programme, too?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
>> Well, I actually believed that the sardine rain was a real thing [...]
>> I even managed in convincing friends of mine it was true! :-) Mind
>> you, I was three!
> Hey, I was.. maybe 6 or 7, but I belived that sardines were raining on
> Tegucigalpa too!
I remember that one Discovery Channel programme actually *was* about
strange things (like vegetables and ice-blocks) falling out of the sky,
it must have been part of a series on mysteries. Could there be a
connection? Is there someone who remembers that programme, too?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Phantom Blot's evil twin
Message 275 -
1998-08-15 at 22:56:18
OLE REICHSTEIN to PAOLO, 8 August 1998:
>> ...Phantom Blot's brother???? Dressed in white????
>> This is the WORST news I read on the latest messages! :-(
> Yes, but as Soeren commented the "evil twin" plot idea has been
> used so often it's a cliche. Turning it upside-down with a "good
> twin" for the villain is at least slightly more innovative.
In the Mad magzazine was/is a very funny gag-series called "Spy vs. Spy",
about two cartoon-looking spies attacking each other in the most bizarre
ways.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
>> ...Phantom Blot's brother???? Dressed in white????
>> This is the WORST news I read on the latest messages! :-(
> Yes, but as Soeren commented the "evil twin" plot idea has been
> used so often it's a cliche. Turning it upside-down with a "good
> twin" for the villain is at least slightly more innovative.
In the Mad magzazine was/is a very funny gag-series called "Spy vs. Spy",
about two cartoon-looking spies attacking each other in the most bizarre
ways.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks and Gutenberghus
Message 276 -
1998-08-15 at 23:23:19
ANDERS CHRISTIAN, 5 August 1998:
> But what was wrong with Gutenberghus, why did they shorten those beaks,
> were they affraid someone would discover the stories were "old" (of
> course some are from the 40'es and 50'es but they are still very fun
> and interesting, aren't they?), or had they just no respect for Barks'
> great work. It suddenly seams that they didn't have that in the 70'es!
It was Guthenberghus who asked Barks to do a synopsis, which turned out
to be "Go Slowly Sands of Time". Possibly, they also asked for "Hang
Gliders be Hanged". As Carl Barks Library set 1 seems to say, the
latter was made in/after 1974.
However, Gutenberhus didn't use any of them until the 1980s. Can someone
here tell more about these stories? When exactly did Gutenberghus ask
Carl Barks for them and how is it possible that they apparently know who
he is, while heavily shortening his stories in their reprints (which harms
his style). Also, why didn't they for a long time use the stories they
asked for?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
> But what was wrong with Gutenberghus, why did they shorten those beaks,
> were they affraid someone would discover the stories were "old" (of
> course some are from the 40'es and 50'es but they are still very fun
> and interesting, aren't they?), or had they just no respect for Barks'
> great work. It suddenly seams that they didn't have that in the 70'es!
It was Guthenberghus who asked Barks to do a synopsis, which turned out
to be "Go Slowly Sands of Time". Possibly, they also asked for "Hang
Gliders be Hanged". As Carl Barks Library set 1 seems to say, the
latter was made in/after 1974.
However, Gutenberhus didn't use any of them until the 1980s. Can someone
here tell more about these stories? When exactly did Gutenberghus ask
Carl Barks for them and how is it possible that they apparently know who
he is, while heavily shortening his stories in their reprints (which harms
his style). Also, why didn't they for a long time use the stories they
asked for?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Gyro's wig (or spontaneous alopecia)
Message 277 -
1998-08-15 at 23:26:37
JONATHAN MARKOFF, 5 August 1998:
> Gyro's "real" hair is hair, in MOST Barks and ALL Rosa stories, but
> during the post-Barks stories of the late 60s, someone (Vic Lockman?)
> got the idea that it was a wig, misled, if I recall correctly, by the
> one time that BARKS made this mistake.
Can you tell me in exactly which Barks-story Gyro does appear to have
a wig?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
> Gyro's "real" hair is hair, in MOST Barks and ALL Rosa stories, but
> during the post-Barks stories of the late 60s, someone (Vic Lockman?)
> got the idea that it was a wig, misled, if I recall correctly, by the
> one time that BARKS made this mistake.
Can you tell me in exactly which Barks-story Gyro does appear to have
a wig?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Life and Times of the Database #1 (boring!) :-)
Message 278 -
1998-08-15 at 23:28:35
HARRY FLUKS, 3 August 1998:
>The ftp version of the DcD started 4 or 5 years ago (I think. Probably
>Per Starback knows the exact dates). But before that, I have indexed my
>Dutch comics for over 20 years.
** Warning! Boring data ahead! You might not reach the end awake! **
In our snail-mails, on 6 October 1991, you wrote about having made a
programme which takes information you need out of your "index" (as you
called the database then). On 28 February 1992, you mention having put
your Gottfredson-list into the computer. On 9 June 1992 you mention
someone from UseNet having sent you an up-to-date Rosa-list. Later in
your letter the sender turns out to be Per Starback (whom you know
since at least 14 March 1991, as a UseNet message you sent me shows).
There must have been plans for the database (as it is now) since early
1991, because in a 2 June 1991 letter I mention "your sands-list".
This was a joke between us at the time because I was sure it would be
a too impossible task to even *try* it, like wanting to describe every
*sand-grain* on the beach of Hoek van Holland.
You won, though. :-)
> In fact, Daniel van Eijmeren pointed out to me that this year it's
> exactly 15 years ago that I started to put my indexes in the computer
> (on punch cards!).
After which you pointed out that you almost spend *half your life*
working on it!
Do you still have the *first* punch-card you ever made? :-)
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
>The ftp version of the DcD started 4 or 5 years ago (I think. Probably
>Per Starback knows the exact dates). But before that, I have indexed my
>Dutch comics for over 20 years.
** Warning! Boring data ahead! You might not reach the end awake! **
In our snail-mails, on 6 October 1991, you wrote about having made a
programme which takes information you need out of your "index" (as you
called the database then). On 28 February 1992, you mention having put
your Gottfredson-list into the computer. On 9 June 1992 you mention
someone from UseNet having sent you an up-to-date Rosa-list. Later in
your letter the sender turns out to be Per Starback (whom you know
since at least 14 March 1991, as a UseNet message you sent me shows).
There must have been plans for the database (as it is now) since early
1991, because in a 2 June 1991 letter I mention "your sands-list".
This was a joke between us at the time because I was sure it would be
a too impossible task to even *try* it, like wanting to describe every
*sand-grain* on the beach of Hoek van Holland.
You won, though. :-)
> In fact, Daniel van Eijmeren pointed out to me that this year it's
> exactly 15 years ago that I started to put my indexes in the computer
> (on punch cards!).
After which you pointed out that you almost spend *half your life*
working on it!
Do you still have the *first* punch-card you ever made? :-)
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Final words and edited reprints
Message 279 -
1998-08-15 at 23:30:23
DONALD MARKSTEIN to me, 3 August 1998:
>> "But who has the final word on what a good story is?"
> The editor, in most cases. I'm surprised you don't know that.
I was talking from an *artistic* point of view.
>> "but what's the use of a comic-book story still existing somewhere
>> if no one - or only a few of us - can *reach* it?"
> I couldn't say. But since Gladstone isn't about to publish it in
> Italian, you're going to have to accept an altered version of it
> anyway.
And that is *exactly* why I want a reprint to be as faithful to the
original as possible. Translations may differ, it might even go 'as
far' as turning a normal dialogue into a rhyming one :-), but when a
translator starts cutting and/or using some white-out to alter the
story, I think it should be considered first to just leave the story
alone and translate another one.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
>> "But who has the final word on what a good story is?"
> The editor, in most cases. I'm surprised you don't know that.
I was talking from an *artistic* point of view.
>> "but what's the use of a comic-book story still existing somewhere
>> if no one - or only a few of us - can *reach* it?"
> I couldn't say. But since Gladstone isn't about to publish it in
> Italian, you're going to have to accept an altered version of it
> anyway.
And that is *exactly* why I want a reprint to be as faithful to the
original as possible. Translations may differ, it might even go 'as
far' as turning a normal dialogue into a rhyming one :-), but when a
translator starts cutting and/or using some white-out to alter the
story, I think it should be considered first to just leave the story
alone and translate another one.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
Arild Saether
Fish falling from sky
Message 280 -
1998-08-16 at 01:57:49
PAOLO CASTAGNO to FRANCESCO SPREAFICO, 10 August 1998:
>> Well, I actually believed that the sardine rain was a real thing [...]
>> I even managed in convincing friends of mine it was true! :-) Mind
>> you, I was three!
> Hey, I was.. maybe 6 or 7, but I belived that sardines were raining on
> Tegucigalpa too!
I'm not familiar with the story, but fish did rain from the sky over
Marksville, Louisiana in October 1947 due to a hurricane or some other windy
cause. I read that in norwegian weekly DD&Co., on a 'did you know
that'-coloumn. So maybe its possible for fish to rain over Tegucigalpa also.
--Arild
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #199
******************************************
>> Well, I actually believed that the sardine rain was a real thing [...]
>> I even managed in convincing friends of mine it was true! :-) Mind
>> you, I was three!
> Hey, I was.. maybe 6 or 7, but I belived that sardines were raining on
> Tegucigalpa too!
I'm not familiar with the story, but fish did rain from the sky over
Marksville, Louisiana in October 1947 due to a hurricane or some other windy
cause. I read that in norwegian weekly DD&Co., on a 'did you know
that'-coloumn. So maybe its possible for fish to rain over Tegucigalpa also.
--Arild
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #199
******************************************
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Replies to Eta, Marco and Joakim
Message 281 -
1998-08-16 at 12:34:03
Me:
O>Speaking of New Adventures (and going a bit off-topic), I've
O>been following the new "The Spirit - The New Adventures", [...]
ETA BETA:
E>I want this!!!
No problemo: if you can't hunt it down the so far four issues in=20
comics-saturated Italy I'd be delighted to swap you for something.
O>It's a very nice index [on PKNA] you have, and I hope you'll find th=
e time
O>to fill in the latest issues (the current one is only no. 20).
MARCO
M>Which means that only that issue is missing, doesn't it? Er, and the
M>"Speciale 1998", of course!
My mistake: I remembered it to run to #17 when it really goes to #19.
M>Mmmmh. The issues don't carry a DAY but just a MONTH. For earlier iss=
ues
M>the day of publishing was random. All given, I decided for a standard=
"1st
M>of the month"...
In that case only a month should be given - at least in our database ve=
rsion of
your index. We only use *correct* information. <ROFL>
O>How long is the issue 0/1 joke going to run BTW? [...]
M>This was a NICE joke, but the editorial staff just ruined it.
M>There NEVER existed a 0/1 issue, but they had printed a cover and a
M>description, which I duly copied adding funny credits. But NOW they p=
rinted
M>the 1998 special with the *title* 0/1...! So as soon as I update my p=
age
M>(this will be in September, 'cause I'm far from Firenze now) I'll rem=
ove
M>the nice funny credits and do things as due...
I didn't notice before I saw you had credited "Barlotti" as inker: I ev=
en
changed the numbering of the chapters in my index, so you're absolutely
right: a nice joke - and it was on me! :-)
Thanks for that information: I thought the cover was fake too, since it
didn't appear where I got all the other covers. You say the *title* of =
"PKNAS
2"
(as I'd code it) is "0/1"? Or is it printet sidewise in the top left co=
rner as
the
numbering usually is? I'd consider it history falsification if it is in=
deed
coded
"backwards in time", and any trick in the book is allowed to get around=
it.
What's the actual story code?
I'll just repeat the URLs for JOAKIM GUNNARSON...
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/PKNA.html =20
(Index of the individual issues from #0 to #??)
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Censored/PKNA
(New Paperinik universe origin story)
...who asked the curious question for an editor of the Swedish
version of PKNA:
J>What about the 0/2 and 0/3 issues then? Does they exist?
Why, yes! So it comes as a complete surprise to you that the
story doesn't start as abruptly as it appears to in the Danish
(and Swedish?) publications (some 3 chapters and 191 pages into
the story)?=20
I understand you translate from photocopies(?) and not real
comic books (hopefully from the Italian??) and may thus be
excused for not having read any possible comments about previous
issues. But now that you know, I hope you'll lobby for these
missing issues to be published around these parts.
It's curious that AFAIK both in Germany and Norway the series
started with - if I remember right - number 0/2...
J>(You have already mentioned David G. and Stefan Petrucha as talented=20
J>Mickey writers on this list. Just let me add Sarah Kinney who writes =
some=20
J>of the most weird an funny short Mickey stories nowdays. I enjoy her
J>stories *very* much. And also Pat McGreal who doesn't seem to be able
J>to write a bad story. Just read "The Sword of Shamboria" (written tog=
ether
J>with Carol.) and find out for yourself how good he is. TSoS was print=
ed in
J>the Scandinavian weeklies in early May this year. (Gladstone folks:Th=
e code
J>for the Shamboria story, a two parter, is D97405 if you want to use i=
t in
J>WDC.)=20
I was pleased to namedrop four prominent creators in the space of
only two (recently published) stories, and didn't intend the list
to be complete. Though I *did* on purpose exclude David Gerstein
on account of a "tr=E5kig" Gyro story this week. ;-)
The "Sword of Shamboria" story caught my attention allright:
it's special in at least two ways: an unusual page layout on
one of the early pages and the fact that it appears not only
to be a two part serial, but also first chapter of a longer
cycle (now you are warned, Gladstone folks!)
It's not unusual in being well drawn, well written, and most of
all funny and exciting. IMHO not only are Pat&Carol and Sarah&Stefan
good at Mickey stories these days: *every* Egmont Mickey story
range from good to excellent now. Even Rodrigues, who is - still
IMHO - a mediocre duck artist, does a wonderful Goofy.
The 50-60 years old Mickey sundays are a nice touch too, though
it's a little sad to compare the re-layouted ones to the original
format they appeared in, as seen in German pocket books.
(I know I'm repeating myself, but I still miss an explanation
to this policy.)
J> And, I should also mention that Don Markstein has a Mickey story in
J>the issue wich is on the stands in Scandinavia now. A good story with=
art
J>by Ferioli. A recommended buy for all of you who lives here in northe=
rn
J>Europe. Now, this starts to look more and more like an ad for our Egm=
ont
J>comics. Better stop here...)
You must mean issue #34 which isn't out until Thursday here.
But you're wasting your breath - I'd buy it anyway, because
the weeklies are now just as good as the ones when I was a
li'l boy. Being a little more critical now it probably means
they are better?
Ole "RoC" Reichstein Nielsen
"Can a rocket travelling at 20,000 km/h reach the moon?"
(Yep, I've been lurking at a certain Swedish list,=20
and this is a vote for KAP #6. I recently bought the
full-color reprint for a better reproduction of Canaletto's
famous painting "Venice - Bride of the Sea".
Even Giuseppe Perego's frame story is a classic! :-))
O>Speaking of New Adventures (and going a bit off-topic), I've
O>been following the new "The Spirit - The New Adventures", [...]
ETA BETA:
E>I want this!!!
No problemo: if you can't hunt it down the so far four issues in=20
comics-saturated Italy I'd be delighted to swap you for something.
O>It's a very nice index [on PKNA] you have, and I hope you'll find th=
e time
O>to fill in the latest issues (the current one is only no. 20).
MARCO
M>Which means that only that issue is missing, doesn't it? Er, and the
M>"Speciale 1998", of course!
My mistake: I remembered it to run to #17 when it really goes to #19.
M>Mmmmh. The issues don't carry a DAY but just a MONTH. For earlier iss=
ues
M>the day of publishing was random. All given, I decided for a standard=
"1st
M>of the month"...
In that case only a month should be given - at least in our database ve=
rsion of
your index. We only use *correct* information. <ROFL>
O>How long is the issue 0/1 joke going to run BTW? [...]
M>This was a NICE joke, but the editorial staff just ruined it.
M>There NEVER existed a 0/1 issue, but they had printed a cover and a
M>description, which I duly copied adding funny credits. But NOW they p=
rinted
M>the 1998 special with the *title* 0/1...! So as soon as I update my p=
age
M>(this will be in September, 'cause I'm far from Firenze now) I'll rem=
ove
M>the nice funny credits and do things as due...
I didn't notice before I saw you had credited "Barlotti" as inker: I ev=
en
changed the numbering of the chapters in my index, so you're absolutely
right: a nice joke - and it was on me! :-)
Thanks for that information: I thought the cover was fake too, since it
didn't appear where I got all the other covers. You say the *title* of =
"PKNAS
2"
(as I'd code it) is "0/1"? Or is it printet sidewise in the top left co=
rner as
the
numbering usually is? I'd consider it history falsification if it is in=
deed
coded
"backwards in time", and any trick in the book is allowed to get around=
it.
What's the actual story code?
I'll just repeat the URLs for JOAKIM GUNNARSON...
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/PKNA.html =20
(Index of the individual issues from #0 to #??)
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/Censored/PKNA
(New Paperinik universe origin story)
...who asked the curious question for an editor of the Swedish
version of PKNA:
J>What about the 0/2 and 0/3 issues then? Does they exist?
Why, yes! So it comes as a complete surprise to you that the
story doesn't start as abruptly as it appears to in the Danish
(and Swedish?) publications (some 3 chapters and 191 pages into
the story)?=20
I understand you translate from photocopies(?) and not real
comic books (hopefully from the Italian??) and may thus be
excused for not having read any possible comments about previous
issues. But now that you know, I hope you'll lobby for these
missing issues to be published around these parts.
It's curious that AFAIK both in Germany and Norway the series
started with - if I remember right - number 0/2...
J>(You have already mentioned David G. and Stefan Petrucha as talented=20
J>Mickey writers on this list. Just let me add Sarah Kinney who writes =
some=20
J>of the most weird an funny short Mickey stories nowdays. I enjoy her
J>stories *very* much. And also Pat McGreal who doesn't seem to be able
J>to write a bad story. Just read "The Sword of Shamboria" (written tog=
ether
J>with Carol.) and find out for yourself how good he is. TSoS was print=
ed in
J>the Scandinavian weeklies in early May this year. (Gladstone folks:Th=
e code
J>for the Shamboria story, a two parter, is D97405 if you want to use i=
t in
J>WDC.)=20
I was pleased to namedrop four prominent creators in the space of
only two (recently published) stories, and didn't intend the list
to be complete. Though I *did* on purpose exclude David Gerstein
on account of a "tr=E5kig" Gyro story this week. ;-)
The "Sword of Shamboria" story caught my attention allright:
it's special in at least two ways: an unusual page layout on
one of the early pages and the fact that it appears not only
to be a two part serial, but also first chapter of a longer
cycle (now you are warned, Gladstone folks!)
It's not unusual in being well drawn, well written, and most of
all funny and exciting. IMHO not only are Pat&Carol and Sarah&Stefan
good at Mickey stories these days: *every* Egmont Mickey story
range from good to excellent now. Even Rodrigues, who is - still
IMHO - a mediocre duck artist, does a wonderful Goofy.
The 50-60 years old Mickey sundays are a nice touch too, though
it's a little sad to compare the re-layouted ones to the original
format they appeared in, as seen in German pocket books.
(I know I'm repeating myself, but I still miss an explanation
to this policy.)
J> And, I should also mention that Don Markstein has a Mickey story in
J>the issue wich is on the stands in Scandinavia now. A good story with=
art
J>by Ferioli. A recommended buy for all of you who lives here in northe=
rn
J>Europe. Now, this starts to look more and more like an ad for our Egm=
ont
J>comics. Better stop here...)
You must mean issue #34 which isn't out until Thursday here.
But you're wasting your breath - I'd buy it anyway, because
the weeklies are now just as good as the ones when I was a
li'l boy. Being a little more critical now it probably means
they are better?
Ole "RoC" Reichstein Nielsen
"Can a rocket travelling at 20,000 km/h reach the moon?"
(Yep, I've been lurking at a certain Swedish list,=20
and this is a vote for KAP #6. I recently bought the
full-color reprint for a better reproduction of Canaletto's
famous painting "Venice - Bride of the Sea".
Even Giuseppe Perego's frame story is a classic! :-))
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Which story is your favorite
Message 282 -
1998-08-16 at 12:42:33
Anders:
> Which Disney-comics-story is your favorite?
> I would like to ask you all this question new,
> old, young and elder members among eachother.
Usually such questions are impossible to answer.
It's a bit like, who do you like best, your mum or your
dad? Not easy.
Since I couldn't decide from my Scarpa collection,
I found
I TL 586-A "Il romanzo di un papero povero" by
Rizzo (Martina???) and art by G. B. Carpi.
You can find it yourself in JB15 ("Sydpolen - retur").
> Please tell why it is exactly that one.
It just shows Donald as a more interesting character,
than any other story I can think of, *and* the splash
panel is simply amazing. I have a big colour copy of
that hanging on my wall. This is theeee Donald, IMO!
Soeren
> Which Disney-comics-story is your favorite?
> I would like to ask you all this question new,
> old, young and elder members among eachother.
Usually such questions are impossible to answer.
It's a bit like, who do you like best, your mum or your
dad? Not easy.
Since I couldn't decide from my Scarpa collection,
I found
I TL 586-A "Il romanzo di un papero povero" by
Rizzo (Martina???) and art by G. B. Carpi.
You can find it yourself in JB15 ("Sydpolen - retur").
> Please tell why it is exactly that one.
It just shows Donald as a more interesting character,
than any other story I can think of, *and* the splash
panel is simply amazing. I have a big colour copy of
that hanging on my wall. This is theeee Donald, IMO!
Soeren
Lynneb56
Larkies and my Dad
Message 283 -
1998-08-16 at 16:33:59
From: Daniel van Eijmeren <(Email removed)>
To:
>>LYNNE, 1 July 1998:
>> > Can anyone give me some detailed information on the Larkies? Thanks <
>>I've compiled information about what happened to the story, including
>>some of my own ideas of what happened to the story (I think more is
>>redrawn besides those two surviving original Harpy panels). You can
>>find it under "Comic book years" and then the 3rd (Uncle $crooge)
>>chapter of "Unpublished/lost works" on:
>> http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/unpub03.htm
I was delighted to find this URL and must ask how you accessed the 1960 letter
from fan R.O. Burnett regarding the Larkies/Harpies. R.O. was my father, and
it was from him that I acquired my love for Disney, especially duck, comics.
I also inherited his collection of Scrooge and Donald comics dating from the
40's to the 60's. Your notation of the year, 1960, assists me in dating the
Barks drawing that he sent to my father when (apparently) this Barks' letter
was written. It is a 5x7 ink drawing of Donald (with the longer bill and in
his usual "agitated" state). Barks wrote on the drawing -- "Quack, quack to
you, Prof Burnett! Remember when Donald looked like this?"
By any chance, do you have the text of the letter written by R.O. Burnett. I
would also be delighted to receive the full text of the letter written to him
from Carl Barks.
Lynne in Illinois
To:
>>LYNNE, 1 July 1998:
>> > Can anyone give me some detailed information on the Larkies? Thanks <
>>I've compiled information about what happened to the story, including
>>some of my own ideas of what happened to the story (I think more is
>>redrawn besides those two surviving original Harpy panels). You can
>>find it under "Comic book years" and then the 3rd (Uncle $crooge)
>>chapter of "Unpublished/lost works" on:
>> http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/unpub03.htm
I was delighted to find this URL and must ask how you accessed the 1960 letter
from fan R.O. Burnett regarding the Larkies/Harpies. R.O. was my father, and
it was from him that I acquired my love for Disney, especially duck, comics.
I also inherited his collection of Scrooge and Donald comics dating from the
40's to the 60's. Your notation of the year, 1960, assists me in dating the
Barks drawing that he sent to my father when (apparently) this Barks' letter
was written. It is a 5x7 ink drawing of Donald (with the longer bill and in
his usual "agitated" state). Barks wrote on the drawing -- "Quack, quack to
you, Prof Burnett! Remember when Donald looked like this?"
By any chance, do you have the text of the letter written by R.O. Burnett. I
would also be delighted to receive the full text of the letter written to him
from Carl Barks.
Lynne in Illinois
Marco Barlotti
The famous sardine-rain in Tegucigalpa!
Message 284 -
1998-08-16 at 16:52:02
PAOLO CASTAGNO to FRANCESCO SPREAFICO, 10 August 1998:
>> Well, I actually believed that the sardine rain was a real thing [...]
>> I even managed in convincing friends of mine it was true! :-) Mind
>> you, I was three!
> Hey, I was.. maybe 6 or 7, but I belived that sardines were raining on
> Tegucigalpa too!
ARILD:
>I'm not familiar with the story, but fish did rain from the sky over
>Marksville, Louisiana in October 1947 due to a hurricane or some
>other windy cause.
AT LAST! I was afraid to say that, but I **do** remember reading something
like that on the newaspaper when I was a child.
And (need to say it?) I **too** when I was five years old FIRMLY BELIEVED
that in Tegucigalpa it would rain sardines every 3rd of May!
Now, my (obvious) question is: was Scarpa somehow "inspired" by this news?
If Luca Boschi and/or Alberto Becattini (who seem to have somehow "access"
to Scarpa...) is/are reading this, could he/they please forward the
question to Scarpa?
Marco
>> Well, I actually believed that the sardine rain was a real thing [...]
>> I even managed in convincing friends of mine it was true! :-) Mind
>> you, I was three!
> Hey, I was.. maybe 6 or 7, but I belived that sardines were raining on
> Tegucigalpa too!
ARILD:
>I'm not familiar with the story, but fish did rain from the sky over
>Marksville, Louisiana in October 1947 due to a hurricane or some
>other windy cause.
AT LAST! I was afraid to say that, but I **do** remember reading something
like that on the newaspaper when I was a child.
And (need to say it?) I **too** when I was five years old FIRMLY BELIEVED
that in Tegucigalpa it would rain sardines every 3rd of May!
Now, my (obvious) question is: was Scarpa somehow "inspired" by this news?
If Luca Boschi and/or Alberto Becattini (who seem to have somehow "access"
to Scarpa...) is/are reading this, could he/they please forward the
question to Scarpa?
Marco
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Atlanta and golden apples / 1947 Barks photo
Message 285 -
1998-08-16 at 17:23:07
ANDERS SIVEB%K, 1 August 1998:
> Today I ordered the issues 2,3 and 6 of the Barks Library of Gyro, and
> LICW 51 too, according to the database it has the two whole stories
> not published by Western. Was there not some apple story too, that was
> never published?
According to a 1975 Kim Weston article in Funnyworld, Barks remembers
this story as a modern version of the myth of Atlanta and the golden
apples.
Is there someone here who knows more about this golden apple myth, btw?
I remember another Disney story possibly having this myth as subject,
printed in Dutch monthly "Donald Duck Extra", somewhere in 1987. I've
never heard anything about the myth itself, though.
FRANCOIS WILLOT, 7 August 1998:
> Maybe Daan Jippes will redrawn it, if someone finds the script.
The script must be lost, I've never heard of any scripts still existing
from Barks' 1942-1966 comic book career.
On the 1947 photo of Carl Barks (pretending to be) inking a half page of
"The Old Castle's Secret", I think one script-page may be seen in front
of his drawing-table. As far as I know, this is also the only occassion
in which an original 1940s Barks-page can be seen.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
> Today I ordered the issues 2,3 and 6 of the Barks Library of Gyro, and
> LICW 51 too, according to the database it has the two whole stories
> not published by Western. Was there not some apple story too, that was
> never published?
According to a 1975 Kim Weston article in Funnyworld, Barks remembers
this story as a modern version of the myth of Atlanta and the golden
apples.
Is there someone here who knows more about this golden apple myth, btw?
I remember another Disney story possibly having this myth as subject,
printed in Dutch monthly "Donald Duck Extra", somewhere in 1987. I've
never heard anything about the myth itself, though.
FRANCOIS WILLOT, 7 August 1998:
> Maybe Daan Jippes will redrawn it, if someone finds the script.
The script must be lost, I've never heard of any scripts still existing
from Barks' 1942-1966 comic book career.
On the 1947 photo of Carl Barks (pretending to be) inking a half page of
"The Old Castle's Secret", I think one script-page may be seen in front
of his drawing-table. As far as I know, this is also the only occassion
in which an original 1940s Barks-page can be seen.
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html