Keskustelujen arkisto

> After uploading the Money Bin image I realized some folks might want an
> actual background (i.e., a "Sky"), so I've uploaded an alternate version:
> http://www.jps.net/xephyr/SCANS/MonyBin2.gif

Neat! I like it! Thanks, and HAPPY ANNIVERSARY! My website just celebrated its 1 year
anniversary back in May. :-)

> From: Kriton Kyrimis <(Email removed)>
> In the last few digests we discussed continuity in Barks' stories. How about
> continuity in Don's stories, though?

Well, if I were to sit and cross-reference all of Don's stories, it would take me all day! ;-)
Within Lo$ alone there are plenty such references. But, okay, treating Lo$ as one work for the
sake of simplicity, here's the other examples I can think of.

1. All the references to "Son of the Sun" in "The Last Lord(s?) of El Dorado"
2. All the treasure on the bookcase at the beginning of "Return to Xanadu", which if I remember
correctly, included stuff from other Rosa stories.
3. Although I haven't read "The Black Knight" yet, I understand it is a sequel of sorts to "The
Universal Solvent"
4. The events shown in the flashbacks of "Last Sled to Dawson" are interwoven with Lo$.
5. The El Dorado story ties in nicely with "Treasure Under Glass"

This is fun! I can't think of any others right now, but I'm sure they exist! One of the many
reasons I adore Rosa's work!

> From: Kriton Kyrimis <(Email removed)>
> Last time we discussed the number of Beagle Boys, I wondered if anyone had
> ever made a list of all the different <snip> numbers, which would give an
> indication of how many Beagle Boys there are. Today I leafed through my copy
> of the B&W CBL, and here is the list of numbers that I ended up with: <big snip>

Wow, you have a lot of extra time on your hands, don't you? ;-) What a neat (but
time-consuming) project! 40 Beagles, huh? Or up to 1001?

> From: "Arthur de Wolf" <(Email removed)>
> I had the pleasure of meeting Don Rosa two weeks ago, so I
> just HAD to write about that! ;o)

And I thought Gladstone Gander was lucky!!!

> From: "Fluks, H.W." <(Email removed)>
> From my private copy of the database:
> D 4953 10 US Rde:Entenhausener Nächte
> D 6708 10 US Rde:Es war eine rauschende Ballnacht
> The titles are in German. Neither of the stories have been published in
> the USA, as far as we know.

Well, I'm obviously ignorant of these stories, being a poor comic-prived American. ;-) Once
again I plead for someone to elaborate for me. (I just have to learn a couple extra languages!
Spanish and English just aren't enough! :-)

That's all for now. Hasta luego! Ciao! Tshau, or however you spell it. Tee hee. We Yanks are
so dumb sometimes. :-)

Katie Q

Joakim wrote:

> Beeing the editor of the Swedish edition of PK I'm curious what
> "0/1 joke" you are refering to.

As an editor of PK you might like to know, that in the
Scandinavian version of the *first* Paperinik story,
that is in AA-71-13 and similar for the Swedish weekly,
Paperinik was actually absent! :-(
He was cut out for some strange reason back in 1971
by an "editor" with whom I would like to "speak to"!!!
I am still a little upset about this, we (Paolo) just
discovered that this very afternoon.

Soeren

Hi!

MARCO wrote:

>This was a NICE joke, but the editorial staff just ruined it.
>There NEVER existed a 0/1 issue, but they had printed a cover and a
>description, which I duly copied adding funny credits. But NOW they printed
>the 1998 special with the *title* 0/1...! So as soon as I update my page
>(this will be in September, 'cause I'm far from Firenze now) I'll remove
>the nice funny credits and do things as due...

Well, as a matter of fact, I think that the joke is STILL nice, because now that
everybody knew that 0/1 was a fake, there they come with a real one, so to mess
things up some more, for the newcomers at least. *We* know what the real
situation is. And, mainy, I don't really think you HAVE to change your homepage,
that I really like a lot! *Number* 0/1 still doesn't exist (BTW it would have
been titled only "Barrauno" that is /1); this one's number is "Speciale '98",
titled "Zero barra uno". So I guess you ought to leave it as it is (with those
"Zyke..." credits :-) I love it!
Of course do as you will...

But no matter title and number; the issue is REALLY wonderful, having good plots
and, most of all, Cavazzano and Silvia Ziche, whom I adore...

Ciao

Francesco

As I was reading in my two new german books on Barks, I got to think of
a thing, that I have wondered about before.
Did he invent the splash-panel, as I understand it a half page. I thought
He
started to use them in WDC 160 (1953), 161 and then consistent from wdc
167. But
I see that he had used a half-page-aplash in FC/OS 292 from 1950. Those are
of course long stories as they are in U$ (10 pages or more) The
one-page-gags have never had half-page splash-panels, have they.

Now, what about Murry, when did he start using the half-page-splash panels?

I actually discovered this some years ago. i noticed that many, if not
every story
in the weekly had a half page at the beginning. The only exception was the
great stories in the supplemments for the weekly. In 1984-1987 they had
only good stories in them, made by a great artist; the same who wrote the
stories for the goldbooks. I didn't know his name at that time (It was
Barks, surprised?) I could see that some of these stories had only ONE
whole line at the beginning (Do you call that a splash-panel too, well, I
suppose you do...).

JUHANA KOUHIA to me, 29 July 1998:

>>NO DIGITAL IS *NOT* FOREVER.

> Digital copies can be copied without changes. And thus is indeed
> forever.

Is that really so? I've been wondering that for years. If I would have a
file and I would copy it for someone on this list, who copies the copy
for someone else, who also copies that copy, etc. If this would happen a
thousand or even a million times, would the final copy still be the same
as the original? Does someone know here?

> And what about those old 70 rpm records which were recorded to tape at
> '60 and destroyed to save room space at record company. Now they have
> to make CDs from those tape copies with flotter and wow, and whatever
> else, while they could get superior CDs from the original records.

In Holland, some book archives are now deteriorating and falling apart,
because they don't get the money they need to digitize them before it's
too late. This may be considered off-topic, but how long will it last
before not-reprinted comic-book stories from the past start vanishing
into dust?

And cartoons? Are only the at this moment popular ones being saved,
resulting in many other gems slowly but steadily disappearing?

> Did C. Barks the color work too? Only line drawings?

Carl Barks never did the colouring. He seemed to have made colouring-
notes on his art-work, but these are lost since the art was destroyed
after making the photostats. I remember an interview in which Barks
told about this and also that his notes were rarely followed, but
please don't take my word on this before I know for sure.

BTW. Funny enough, Don Rosa's "Lost Charts of Columbus" had a colouring-
note appaering in *print* (at least here in Holland). I don't remember
the text exactly offhand, but it tells that the helmet is made of gold.
(I don't know if the note is by Don or the editor, though.)

> What I have though about CDs are, for example: 1. All panels are stored
> as line drawings; as much originals as possible, and rest are
> reconstructed from the recent materials. BUT, if CB colorized the
> stories, then this needs rethinking.

Even though he didn't colour the stories, it *still* isn't possible to
use line-art if the reproductions of it are gone and/or damaged. That's
why I said that the original comics may be our only source to get the
real art.

But hopefully people who worked on the Carl Barks Library and/or who
visited the archives can tell how much clean original art/photostats/etc.
for these old comics still exists?

> Since my approach is quite different from the pure illegal copying, I
> expect more people would be toward this project than against. However,
> this is still illegal because Disney has the rights. Has anyone ideas
> how to get Disney involved to this?

Ideas to get Disney interested in the importance of old comics? I guess
you're *dreaming* here. :-)

JUHANA KOUHIA to me, 30 July 1998:

>> I would love to see all the original comics being scanned [ ... ]

> Even I think it is a better idea to remake everything for CD-ROM, I'm
> now convinced that we should also boldly scan old copies of DD stories.
> Please let me explane: Since Disney has the copyrights, we cannot
> distribute the scanned copies. [...] We have to do it now even todays
> people are not gaining from the project. So, I suggest we scan the
> stories and keep them out of public for 75+ years.

I'd love to cooperate, but I only own one original Barks comic (US 65)
and I don't know if I have the right equipment (a Hewlett Packard
Scanjet 5p scanner). If there would be as good a cooperation as for
example on the Disney comics database, this would be a good thing for
at least the circulation under fans. But if we want to do it to really
preserve the comics without quality loss (or *almost* no quality loss),
what standards of equipment and software would we need?

> Also, the same applies to works of Don Rosa but it takes much longer
> (hopefully much much) to his works to become in public domain.

A Rosa Library collection would at least be a more thankful job than on
Barks, because - as I've understood - all or most of the unreleased Rosa
material is in his archives. This is the area of xeroxing and scanning.
When someone asked Don Rosa why he didn't make xeroxes of his first
(still lost?) story, he answered that at that time (late 1960s / early
1970s) there weren't copy-shops on the corner of the street and even if
there were, xeroxes of that time turned yellow within a few years.

Greetings,

--- Daniel

A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html

There's a full-page interview I wrote with Don Rosa in todays edition of
Stavanger Aftenblad. It's on the first page of the second section. It's
illustrated with a drawing Don Rosa did for me. For those of you who can
read Norwegian, it's available at the following web-adress:

http://stavanger-aftenblad.no/nyheter/kultur/1998/0815/084806.html

Any feedback will be highly appreciated.

Eirik - generell faiastata
(Email removed)

-- shoot the boss

most things haven't worked out

JONATHAN MARKOFF:

> And now that I've seen it, what an
> unusual comeuppance for the villain! (I won't say what it is, because I know
> Kriton will ignore my spoiler warning!)

You sure have a way of keeping me in suspense! :-)

KATIE:

> Wow, you have a lot of extra time on your hands, don't you? ;-)

Well, I'm supposed to be on summer vacation, so I'm free till the end
of the month.

> What a neat (but time-consuming) project!

Oddly enough, it only took 2-3 hours of searching. It may sound
surprising, but the majority of Barks' stories do not involve the
Beagle Boys, and the majority of those that do only use the six 176-176
permutations.

OLE REICHSTEIN NIELSEN:

> I prefer the alternate theory: there are a thousand and one Beagles!
> Reminds me of the same Arabian story... and then some.

Which reminds me of an (Italian?) story which, if memory serves me
correctly, was published as "Aladdin's Cave" in Greece, and where Scrooge
had found said cave and the treasure contained therein. The Beagles had to
radio the local branch of the Beagle Boys to try and steal the treasure,
as they couldn't travel from Duckburg themselves. A tale out of the 1001
Nights in support of the 1001 Beagle Boys theory!

Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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