MAXIMILIANE SAALFRANK to me, 21 August 1998:
> Many thanks for mentioning "Krankenstein Gyro". The story seems
> fitting perfectly for my scientific purposes. What kind of life tried
> Gyro to build? How does it look like? In what year and month did it
> appear? I need details because of bibliographical reasons.
The Gyro story (a four-pager) was published in Uncle $crooge 26, June-
August 1959. Barks submitted it on June 16, 1958. The end-result of the
experiment is a big surprise, one page of the story consists of Gyro's
guessing on what he might be creating (which he did by putting the mix
he made into an egg-shell).
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
"Genetic" Gyro-stories
Message 511 -
1998-08-29 at 17:38:46
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
LVD in a little something special?
Message 512 -
1998-08-29 at 17:42:05
Hello
I was just looking in the Don Rosa index. It says on A little something
special
that LVD (Ludwig van Drake) org.app. (originally appeared) in the story.
How is
that to be explained? Did Egmont remove it or did they just tell Don not to
put
him in the story? BTW if he was in the story on which panels was it? It
must be
because of the new rooles: LVD does not excist??!!??
Anders Christian
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I was just looking in the Don Rosa index. It says on A little something
special
that LVD (Ludwig van Drake) org.app. (originally appeared) in the story.
How is
that to be explained? Did Egmont remove it or did they just tell Don not to
put
him in the story? BTW if he was in the story on which panels was it? It
must be
because of the new rooles: LVD does not excist??!!??
Anders Christian
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Rich Bellacera
Disney comics Digest V98 #212
Message 513 -
1998-08-29 at 22:01:39
> Speaking of Moby Duck (a character I also like),
>
> >His Laurel-and-Hardy-style antics with First Mate Dimwitty are hilarious.
> >Will Gladstone reprint any of his stories (starting with DD 112: "A Whale of
> >an Adventure")? His early tales might take some flak in today's world for
> >depicting a whaler as the hero,
I think you are correct concerning the possibility of reprints, however, not
all of Moby & Dimwitty's tales were about whaling. I have nearly a complete
run of Gold Key's "Moby Duck" comics and the few that appeared in WDC&S and
DD, so I can tell you that many many of the stories actually dealt with him
adventuring for other purposes... there are stories where he fight Capt Hook,
and he has several other enemies, mostly these folk are trying to stop him
from delivering special passengers or *goods* to certain places, or to steal
them. Uncle Scrooge had hired Moby a couple of time to transport items for
him, and I believe Donald & the Nephews and others hitched many rides to
different places using his ship. As for whales, there were even a couple
of stories dealing with large mechanical whales which were really ships,
themselves.
Perhaps, since many of the undertones, even when not said straight out, still
implied the Moby was a whale hunter, perhaps reprinting those stories are not
in the best interest of Disney, but there are certainly many others which could
be. Personally I am not a big Vic Lockman fan, but he, like Paul Murry dove
into new territory with Disney comics, and for that, I am grateful. Since
Gladstone doesn't really create it's own new comics, but I see no reason why
Disney Italia, of French Hachette or Egmont or whoever couldn't create new
tales featuring Moby & Dimwitty, as long as they kept them out of the whaling
business.
Probably a character I would really NOT favor a revival for is the western
hero, Sheriff Buckaroo "Buck Duck". Anyone familiar with this forgetable
character was probably not very sorry when he, and his "May West-esque"
girlfriend, Calamity, from the western town of Hotlead Hollow, disappeared.
Speaking of these three... in the Disney comics of the 60s and 70s it seemed
that every continuing character was related in some way to our heroes like
Donald and Uncle Scrooge. Does anyone know if Moby, Dimwitty or Buck were
related to Donald or anyone else?
For anyone interested in these characters:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/moby.html
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/dimwitty.html
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/buck.html
>
> >His Laurel-and-Hardy-style antics with First Mate Dimwitty are hilarious.
> >Will Gladstone reprint any of his stories (starting with DD 112: "A Whale of
> >an Adventure")? His early tales might take some flak in today's world for
> >depicting a whaler as the hero,
I think you are correct concerning the possibility of reprints, however, not
all of Moby & Dimwitty's tales were about whaling. I have nearly a complete
run of Gold Key's "Moby Duck" comics and the few that appeared in WDC&S and
DD, so I can tell you that many many of the stories actually dealt with him
adventuring for other purposes... there are stories where he fight Capt Hook,
and he has several other enemies, mostly these folk are trying to stop him
from delivering special passengers or *goods* to certain places, or to steal
them. Uncle Scrooge had hired Moby a couple of time to transport items for
him, and I believe Donald & the Nephews and others hitched many rides to
different places using his ship. As for whales, there were even a couple
of stories dealing with large mechanical whales which were really ships,
themselves.
Perhaps, since many of the undertones, even when not said straight out, still
implied the Moby was a whale hunter, perhaps reprinting those stories are not
in the best interest of Disney, but there are certainly many others which could
be. Personally I am not a big Vic Lockman fan, but he, like Paul Murry dove
into new territory with Disney comics, and for that, I am grateful. Since
Gladstone doesn't really create it's own new comics, but I see no reason why
Disney Italia, of French Hachette or Egmont or whoever couldn't create new
tales featuring Moby & Dimwitty, as long as they kept them out of the whaling
business.
Probably a character I would really NOT favor a revival for is the western
hero, Sheriff Buckaroo "Buck Duck". Anyone familiar with this forgetable
character was probably not very sorry when he, and his "May West-esque"
girlfriend, Calamity, from the western town of Hotlead Hollow, disappeared.
Speaking of these three... in the Disney comics of the 60s and 70s it seemed
that every continuing character was related in some way to our heroes like
Donald and Uncle Scrooge. Does anyone know if Moby, Dimwitty or Buck were
related to Donald or anyone else?
For anyone interested in these characters:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/moby.html
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/dimwitty.html
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/buck.html
Francois Willot
Picsou #320
Message 514 -
1998-08-29 at 23:38:20
Picsou Magazine #320 (available since monday) prints the followings
stories and items:
- a DD cover by Patrice Croci
- Scrooge in his money bin, an illos by Don Rosa reprinted from the
cover for the US publication of Lo$ chapter 1
- the Barks 10-pager in WDC 144 (US + nephews spending money)
- "The Pied Piper of Duckburg" by Barks and Rosa
- "The Master Landscapist" by Don Rosa
- 1,000 jokes (guess it's impossible to read all that stuff. An example:
Mr and Madam Graff have a son, what's his name? Answer: Otto
[autograph])
- "The Old Casstle's Secret" (+ 1 article)
- the cover of Picsou #17, by Francois Pasquet
I'm waiting forward to see "Trick or Treat" in full version!
Francois
stories and items:
- a DD cover by Patrice Croci
- Scrooge in his money bin, an illos by Don Rosa reprinted from the
cover for the US publication of Lo$ chapter 1
- the Barks 10-pager in WDC 144 (US + nephews spending money)
- "The Pied Piper of Duckburg" by Barks and Rosa
- "The Master Landscapist" by Don Rosa
- 1,000 jokes (guess it's impossible to read all that stuff. An example:
Mr and Madam Graff have a son, what's his name? Answer: Otto
[autograph])
- "The Old Casstle's Secret" (+ 1 article)
- the cover of Picsou #17, by Francois Pasquet
I'm waiting forward to see "Trick or Treat" in full version!
Francois
Cebarat
Digests V98 #209-212
Message 515 -
1998-08-30 at 00:00:33
JONATHAN MARKOFF:
<<An example of the above topic can be found in the most famous Barks Scrooge
story ever--"Only a Poor Old Man". The Beagle Boy in that gang's laboratory
develops a "super species" of beetles that eat wood like termites.>>
Many years later, in the DUCKTALES episode "Attack of the Metal Mites,"
Flintheart Glomgold's researchers developed the title critters, which Flinty
intended to use to eat Scrooge's money. There had to be some gene-gouging
going on there, too.
RE Moby Duck: I still think that Moby could be "salvaged" (no pun intended)
for today's sensibilities by turning him from a whaler (an ananchronistic
pastime even when Moby was created in the 60's) into a general "sea-
adventurer," sort of a Disney comics version of Jacques Cousteau, Thor
Heyerdahl, or the characters on the old TV series SEA HUNT. You could keep
the personality and the interactions with Donald, Scrooge, Dimwitty et al.
while dispensing with the references to harpoons and whaling. Why cast the
character into outer darkness?
ANDERS CHRISTIAN:
<<Now I know they are called spats; but you forgot Gladstone
and Flintheart, (Don't forget that Rockerduck wears normal
shoes) they wear spats too, as Donald also does in festive
occasions (or whatever). Barks made a cover once (have to
look it up), for a story that he didn't make, where Donald
wears them. They must be some symbol for wealth.>>
D'OH!!!!! Did I put my foot (without spat) in my mouth this time by
completely forgetting Gladstone and Glomgold. You're right, spats seem to
be a Barksian "symbol" for wealth and (in Gladstone's case) luxuriant
leisure.
KATIE SULLIVAN:
Having just gone through the first week of classes at Virginia State (albeit
on the "other side of the desk"), I can imagine how hectic things are for you
at this time. Good luck as you commence your undergraduate career!
MARTIN BERGLUND:
<<Maybe if I meditate during math class tomorrow I can figure out what's going
to happen in chapter 3B of L&$ :-)>>
This math instructor says, don't even THINK it!! :-) If you MUST think about
the Ducks during math class, think of DONALD DUCK IN MATHEMAGIC LAND.
<<An example of the above topic can be found in the most famous Barks Scrooge
story ever--"Only a Poor Old Man". The Beagle Boy in that gang's laboratory
develops a "super species" of beetles that eat wood like termites.>>
Many years later, in the DUCKTALES episode "Attack of the Metal Mites,"
Flintheart Glomgold's researchers developed the title critters, which Flinty
intended to use to eat Scrooge's money. There had to be some gene-gouging
going on there, too.
RE Moby Duck: I still think that Moby could be "salvaged" (no pun intended)
for today's sensibilities by turning him from a whaler (an ananchronistic
pastime even when Moby was created in the 60's) into a general "sea-
adventurer," sort of a Disney comics version of Jacques Cousteau, Thor
Heyerdahl, or the characters on the old TV series SEA HUNT. You could keep
the personality and the interactions with Donald, Scrooge, Dimwitty et al.
while dispensing with the references to harpoons and whaling. Why cast the
character into outer darkness?
ANDERS CHRISTIAN:
<<Now I know they are called spats; but you forgot Gladstone
and Flintheart, (Don't forget that Rockerduck wears normal
shoes) they wear spats too, as Donald also does in festive
occasions (or whatever). Barks made a cover once (have to
look it up), for a story that he didn't make, where Donald
wears them. They must be some symbol for wealth.>>
D'OH!!!!! Did I put my foot (without spat) in my mouth this time by
completely forgetting Gladstone and Glomgold. You're right, spats seem to
be a Barksian "symbol" for wealth and (in Gladstone's case) luxuriant
leisure.
KATIE SULLIVAN:
Having just gone through the first week of classes at Virginia State (albeit
on the "other side of the desk"), I can imagine how hectic things are for you
at this time. Good luck as you commence your undergraduate career!
MARTIN BERGLUND:
<<Maybe if I meditate during math class tomorrow I can figure out what's going
to happen in chapter 3B of L&$ :-)>>
This math instructor says, don't even THINK it!! :-) If you MUST think about
the Ducks during math class, think of DONALD DUCK IN MATHEMAGIC LAND.
Vidar Svendsen
Fictional magic hourglasses
Message 516 -
1998-08-30 at 01:39:44
Daniel van Eijmeren
>I think that even *with* magic hourglass, Scrooge would have gotten the
>bad news about the big losses. Only, instead of blaming it on the
>hourglass, he would have put the losses straight with his experience
>and his strong personality.
But the other ducks find a lake of diamonds while they have the hourglass...
Maybe magic hourglasses really exists in the Duck universe?
*Magic* certainly does? (every time I read a Barks story)
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven
And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
>I think that even *with* magic hourglass, Scrooge would have gotten the
>bad news about the big losses. Only, instead of blaming it on the
>hourglass, he would have put the losses straight with his experience
>and his strong personality.
But the other ducks find a lake of diamonds while they have the hourglass...
Maybe magic hourglasses really exists in the Duck universe?
*Magic* certainly does? (every time I read a Barks story)
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven
And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
Merlin Haas
Disney comic strips
Message 517 -
1998-08-30 at 03:44:03
Rich (xephyr) wrote:
> As far as I knew, MM & DD strips
> had stopped nationwide (America) years ago, though it is my under-
> standing that an ocassional "special" comic is run for holidays, but
> I've never seen any of these either! Boy am I happy you shared this! :-)
There have been Disney Christmas strips for the past few years, usually
movie tie-ins. These are daily strips running from Thanksgiving to
Christmas. The Chicago Tribune has been running them and last year's was
a story with the Little Mermaid.
best -- Merlin Haas
> As far as I knew, MM & DD strips
> had stopped nationwide (America) years ago, though it is my under-
> standing that an ocassional "special" comic is run for holidays, but
> I've never seen any of these either! Boy am I happy you shared this! :-)
There have been Disney Christmas strips for the past few years, usually
movie tie-ins. These are daily strips running from Thanksgiving to
Christmas. The Chicago Tribune has been running them and last year's was
a story with the Little Mermaid.
best -- Merlin Haas
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
Animals in Duckburg
Message 518 -
1998-08-30 at 13:23:33
Animals in Duckburg
Of course, we all now that Mickey has a dog, Pluto. But he is not in the
house in every comic...
Donald has the dog Bollivar (Or Bernhard as we call him in DK), he was
"invented" by Al Talieferro, I think. He appears in many Barks-stories.
But he also has another, much smaller dog, which appears in other stories,
meaning that he does not have two at the same time.
Then comes the cat. He appeared in what I call Kloidristique stories
(Explanation: In the book Donaldism, Duckology, this idea is presented;
A story is klodristik (or Fethrylogic) when Fethry Duck appears, and it
has to be from an excact period of time; there's also something called
synthetic Fethrylogy, which is not the right sort (The author of the book
mentioned the stories where DD and Fethry are journalists)
Well the cat, Tommy is a kind of substitute for HDL, who don't appear in
those comics. Tommy hates Fethry Duck, because he's so stupid, and Tommy is
so smart; he actually thinks! (The story I'm especially referring to is in
AA65-50, and in
some ITL-number, The cat's name in Am. is Tabby)
Well, any coments are welcome: what about Grandma's animals, what do we
have
about them?
Of course, we all now that Mickey has a dog, Pluto. But he is not in the
house in every comic...
Donald has the dog Bollivar (Or Bernhard as we call him in DK), he was
"invented" by Al Talieferro, I think. He appears in many Barks-stories.
But he also has another, much smaller dog, which appears in other stories,
meaning that he does not have two at the same time.
Then comes the cat. He appeared in what I call Kloidristique stories
(Explanation: In the book Donaldism, Duckology, this idea is presented;
A story is klodristik (or Fethrylogic) when Fethry Duck appears, and it
has to be from an excact period of time; there's also something called
synthetic Fethrylogy, which is not the right sort (The author of the book
mentioned the stories where DD and Fethry are journalists)
Well the cat, Tommy is a kind of substitute for HDL, who don't appear in
those comics. Tommy hates Fethry Duck, because he's so stupid, and Tommy is
so smart; he actually thinks! (The story I'm especially referring to is in
AA65-50, and in
some ITL-number, The cat's name in Am. is Tabby)
Well, any coments are welcome: what about Grandma's animals, what do we
have
about them?
Don Rosa
Digest #212
Message 519 -
1998-08-30 at 16:27:12
From: "Fluks, H.W
> ??? Is that a joke? I mean, have I done more than 50 stories yet?
>>>>>Up to the "Black Knight" story, you have done 59 stories, plus 1
script-only, 4 art-only, and 4 onepagers/twopagers. 68 in total.
Oh, so? Thanks!
And to me, that's really only 59 stories (or now 61 after the two after
"Black Knight"). I naturally don't think of the 4 art-only or the 4 one-two
pagers (which were all also art-only) as "mine". I would much, much sooner
count the two stories that I have written and which have been rejected as my
own stories, making the total 63. Those stories were the Disney/MGM studio
promotional story that Hamilton had me do to please Disney (who rejected
it)(and that's okay... it was a "fictional" tale to me since my Ducks live
not in a universe with Disney nor in modern times), and also a story that I
did for Egmont about the travels of a certain coin from $crooge's Bin... I
really liked that latter one and I hope to draw it for someone someday...
Egmont rejected it only on the grounds that it had no specific focal Duck
character, and the coin was the "star", which was against their editorial
policy.
No, I won't count the 4-pager I wrote for that DuckTales kiddie-magazine.
That was a sad, regretable decision... I'd accepted their offer because I
was outta work having recently been forced out of Gladstone by Disney's
mandate that they not return freelancer's artwork... and having already
liquidated my family construction company, I was stuck. And then, on top of
that, I had trouble getting the kiddie-mag company to pay me!
Were there really 4 art-only Oberon stories? I can only think of 3. (I guess
I should go check your index!)
> ??? Is that a joke? I mean, have I done more than 50 stories yet?
>>>>>Up to the "Black Knight" story, you have done 59 stories, plus 1
script-only, 4 art-only, and 4 onepagers/twopagers. 68 in total.
Oh, so? Thanks!
And to me, that's really only 59 stories (or now 61 after the two after
"Black Knight"). I naturally don't think of the 4 art-only or the 4 one-two
pagers (which were all also art-only) as "mine". I would much, much sooner
count the two stories that I have written and which have been rejected as my
own stories, making the total 63. Those stories were the Disney/MGM studio
promotional story that Hamilton had me do to please Disney (who rejected
it)(and that's okay... it was a "fictional" tale to me since my Ducks live
not in a universe with Disney nor in modern times), and also a story that I
did for Egmont about the travels of a certain coin from $crooge's Bin... I
really liked that latter one and I hope to draw it for someone someday...
Egmont rejected it only on the grounds that it had no specific focal Duck
character, and the coin was the "star", which was against their editorial
policy.
No, I won't count the 4-pager I wrote for that DuckTales kiddie-magazine.
That was a sad, regretable decision... I'd accepted their offer because I
was outta work having recently been forced out of Gladstone by Disney's
mandate that they not return freelancer's artwork... and having already
liquidated my family construction company, I was stuck. And then, on top of
that, I had trouble getting the kiddie-mag company to pay me!
Were there really 4 art-only Oberon stories? I can only think of 3. (I guess
I should go check your index!)
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
Well-Educated Duck
Message 520 -
1998-08-30 at 18:56:34
Have any of you dutch or american people read Rosa's
"Well-Educated Duck"? Please tell about it!
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"Well-Educated Duck"? Please tell about it!
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #213
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Cebarat
Disney comics Digest V98 #213
Message 521 -
1998-08-30 at 19:36:01
RICH BELLACERA:
<<Probably a character I would really NOT favor a revival for is the western
hero, Sheriff Buckaroo "Buck Duck". Anyone familiar with this forgetable
character was probably not very sorry when he, and his "May West-esque"
girlfriend, Calamity, from the western town of Hotlead Hollow, disappeared.>>
Well, I could take or leave Buck. Calamity, on the other hand... :-) :-)
DON ROSA:
<<No, I won't count the 4-pager I wrote for that DuckTales kiddie-magazine.
That was a sad, regretable decision... I'd accepted their offer because I
was outta work having recently been forced out of Gladstone by Disney's
mandate that they not return freelancer's artwork... and having already
liquidated my family construction company, I was stuck. And then, on top of
that, I had trouble getting the kiddie-mag company to pay me!>>
Well, we DUCKTALES fans appreciate the effort, in any case. DT comic-book (or
kiddie-mag comic) stories aren't so numerous in this country that we don't pay
attention to all the stories that appeared, in whatever format.
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
<<Probably a character I would really NOT favor a revival for is the western
hero, Sheriff Buckaroo "Buck Duck". Anyone familiar with this forgetable
character was probably not very sorry when he, and his "May West-esque"
girlfriend, Calamity, from the western town of Hotlead Hollow, disappeared.>>
Well, I could take or leave Buck. Calamity, on the other hand... :-) :-)
DON ROSA:
<<No, I won't count the 4-pager I wrote for that DuckTales kiddie-magazine.
That was a sad, regretable decision... I'd accepted their offer because I
was outta work having recently been forced out of Gladstone by Disney's
mandate that they not return freelancer's artwork... and having already
liquidated my family construction company, I was stuck. And then, on top of
that, I had trouble getting the kiddie-mag company to pay me!>>
Well, we DUCKTALES fans appreciate the effort, in any case. DT comic-book (or
kiddie-mag comic) stories aren't so numerous in this country that we don't pay
attention to all the stories that appeared, in whatever format.
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
Arthur De Wolf
Some questions
Message 522 -
1998-08-30 at 21:12:25
Hi!
DON ROSA:
> I'll narrow your search area -- it's in the top half
> of the scene.
Aaahh!! THERE it is!!! Thanks for the tip .. it's really very well
hidden. I still like it so much to search for these D.U.C.K's!
>> it's even somewhere in my top 50
> Is that a joke?
Yes, sorry .. I guess I was trying to be funny .... :oP
I don't really have a top 50 of your stories. It's already hard
enough to pick my favorite one!
By the way, people are always saying to me that I am using too
many exclamation marks in my emails, using one to end almost
every sentence! I guess I have been reading to many comics! Why
do almost all sentences in comic stories end with them?! Is
there a reason?
> As I said, I always postpone the PICSOU jobs until
> the last moment, probably because it's the only "deadline"
> work I do
Do you like to have deadline work?
Would you wish that your stories also had deadlines?
> Maybe it's a good thing that I usually *can't* understand
> what my fans are saying to me!
Oh, she meant it in a really good way ... I mean, she (and
me too) just think that the things you do are really cool!! :o)
What's the weirest thing a fan has ever asked or said to you,
if I may ask?!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf
DON ROSA:
> I'll narrow your search area -- it's in the top half
> of the scene.
Aaahh!! THERE it is!!! Thanks for the tip .. it's really very well
hidden. I still like it so much to search for these D.U.C.K's!
>> it's even somewhere in my top 50
> Is that a joke?
Yes, sorry .. I guess I was trying to be funny .... :oP
I don't really have a top 50 of your stories. It's already hard
enough to pick my favorite one!
By the way, people are always saying to me that I am using too
many exclamation marks in my emails, using one to end almost
every sentence! I guess I have been reading to many comics! Why
do almost all sentences in comic stories end with them?! Is
there a reason?
> As I said, I always postpone the PICSOU jobs until
> the last moment, probably because it's the only "deadline"
> work I do
Do you like to have deadline work?
Would you wish that your stories also had deadlines?
> Maybe it's a good thing that I usually *can't* understand
> what my fans are saying to me!
Oh, she meant it in a really good way ... I mean, she (and
me too) just think that the things you do are really cool!! :o)
What's the weirest thing a fan has ever asked or said to you,
if I may ask?!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf
Don Rosa
Digest #213
Message 523 -
1998-08-30 at 23:43:46
From: "Anders Chr. Sivebæk"
>>>Have any of you dutch or american people read Rosa's
"Well-Educated Duck"? Please tell about it!
Yeah, I think I read it once. It was alright, as opposed to the other Oberon
stories that I did the art-only on, which, I hope I can be allowed an
opinion, were pretty lame scripts. But the thing that bothered me about
"Well-Educated Duck" is that the writer depicted HD&L, not simply as
mischievous youngsters who play hooky from school on a rare ocassion -- I
don't use them that way, myself, but I am still not opposed to that idea --
but he depicted them as chronic slackers who found a way to try to blackmail
their Unca Donald into getting off their back about going to school, and
they didn't hesitate to blackmail him with glee. I really disliked drawing a
story that showed them as being maliciously nasty little brats.
From: Daniel van Eijmeren
>Furthermore,
> as Don has said, this was an early story that contains many "facts"
> that aren't in sunc with "our" Scrooge, and should be regarded as
> "fictional fiction".
(Dan vE.:)
>>>>>Your comment made me check the existance of this story in my Barks
collection immediately, but fortunately it's still there. :-) No, I
don't agree on the "fictional fiction" you mention. For me, either
*all* Barks-stories really happened or *none* of them happened at all.
You seem to ignore the fact that Barks' stories in a few instances (not
many, but over the 5-year-development and 15 year use of $crooge, there were
several) contradicted themselves such that it's not possible to regard *all*
Barks' stories as really happening. It would be a paradox. I never changed a
fact in Barks' $crooge-history unless I had no choice. Even when it was
merely difficult to make sense of certain facts, I would force them into
logistics and found ways to *make* it make sense in the "Lo$".
There's no reason why a reader has to regard these Ducks as being contained
in a continuity-universe... some choose to regard it all as simple escapist
fun, no two stories needing to agree with each other, and that's fine. I
choose to have my own private fun and place Barks and my stories into a
general continuity, but I am still forced to ignore about a half-dozen of
his 500 stories for that to be possible. But to claim to regard 100% of
Barks stories as being 100% continuity-feasible is not possible. Therefore,
since there are definitely self-contradictory facts within Barks' 500
stories so that accepting 100% of them is paradoxical, but that you insist
that one can only accept either 0% or 100% of his stories as being part of
his own "Universe", you're therefore saying that you accept 0% of his
stories. Do you *really* want to say that? Why be such a radical?
I've even contradicted a few of the "facts" I put in my own early stories.
It's unavoidable, and it's no big deal.
But... sometime I think you're trolling. In your own previous message you
wrote:
>>>>But nescessarily *believing* in it as blindly the one and only sacred
truth... no. Having seen Monty Python's "Life of Brian" years ago
(which could be a view on fandom as much as religion), made me clear
how annoying that would be - most likely not in the least to the maker
himself.
And then you next say that 100% of everything Barks ever wrote about $crooge
*must* be accepted literally. Maybe you're pulling our collective leg here,
and I'm too dense to catch the joke?
>>>Have any of you dutch or american people read Rosa's
"Well-Educated Duck"? Please tell about it!
Yeah, I think I read it once. It was alright, as opposed to the other Oberon
stories that I did the art-only on, which, I hope I can be allowed an
opinion, were pretty lame scripts. But the thing that bothered me about
"Well-Educated Duck" is that the writer depicted HD&L, not simply as
mischievous youngsters who play hooky from school on a rare ocassion -- I
don't use them that way, myself, but I am still not opposed to that idea --
but he depicted them as chronic slackers who found a way to try to blackmail
their Unca Donald into getting off their back about going to school, and
they didn't hesitate to blackmail him with glee. I really disliked drawing a
story that showed them as being maliciously nasty little brats.
From: Daniel van Eijmeren
>Furthermore,
> as Don has said, this was an early story that contains many "facts"
> that aren't in sunc with "our" Scrooge, and should be regarded as
> "fictional fiction".
(Dan vE.:)
>>>>>Your comment made me check the existance of this story in my Barks
collection immediately, but fortunately it's still there. :-) No, I
don't agree on the "fictional fiction" you mention. For me, either
*all* Barks-stories really happened or *none* of them happened at all.
You seem to ignore the fact that Barks' stories in a few instances (not
many, but over the 5-year-development and 15 year use of $crooge, there were
several) contradicted themselves such that it's not possible to regard *all*
Barks' stories as really happening. It would be a paradox. I never changed a
fact in Barks' $crooge-history unless I had no choice. Even when it was
merely difficult to make sense of certain facts, I would force them into
logistics and found ways to *make* it make sense in the "Lo$".
There's no reason why a reader has to regard these Ducks as being contained
in a continuity-universe... some choose to regard it all as simple escapist
fun, no two stories needing to agree with each other, and that's fine. I
choose to have my own private fun and place Barks and my stories into a
general continuity, but I am still forced to ignore about a half-dozen of
his 500 stories for that to be possible. But to claim to regard 100% of
Barks stories as being 100% continuity-feasible is not possible. Therefore,
since there are definitely self-contradictory facts within Barks' 500
stories so that accepting 100% of them is paradoxical, but that you insist
that one can only accept either 0% or 100% of his stories as being part of
his own "Universe", you're therefore saying that you accept 0% of his
stories. Do you *really* want to say that? Why be such a radical?
I've even contradicted a few of the "facts" I put in my own early stories.
It's unavoidable, and it's no big deal.
But... sometime I think you're trolling. In your own previous message you
wrote:
>>>>But nescessarily *believing* in it as blindly the one and only sacred
truth... no. Having seen Monty Python's "Life of Brian" years ago
(which could be a view on fandom as much as religion), made me clear
how annoying that would be - most likely not in the least to the maker
himself.
And then you next say that 100% of everything Barks ever wrote about $crooge
*must* be accepted literally. Maybe you're pulling our collective leg here,
and I'm too dense to catch the joke?
Juhana K Kouhia
Everlasting digital
Message 524 -
1998-08-30 at 23:59:26
>From: Dirk Djuga <(Email removed)>
>
>You should scan only B/W line art
...and to scan them as "B/W photo", not as "line art" as the scanning
method (look for different yourself). But the source should be a B/W
line art if possible as Dirk suggest. I guess, it is possible to make
a line art from the color scannings but it most likely needs an advanced
software --- I immediately want to design such a program :-)
Yours,
Juhana
>
>You should scan only B/W line art
...and to scan them as "B/W photo", not as "line art" as the scanning
method (look for different yourself). But the source should be a B/W
line art if possible as Dirk suggest. I guess, it is possible to make
a line art from the color scannings but it most likely needs an advanced
software --- I immediately want to design such a program :-)
Yours,
Juhana
Mattias Hallin
Well-Educated Duck
Message 525 -
1998-08-31 at 00:06:48
DON:
As we're talking 'bout the "Well-Educated Duck", I've been meaning to ask
you: were the "High Society" references in the original script, or are they
your own additions?
Jes' curious, is all!
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <(Email removed)> ***
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* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
As we're talking 'bout the "Well-Educated Duck", I've been meaning to ask
you: were the "High Society" references in the original script, or are they
your own additions?
Jes' curious, is all!
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <(Email removed)> ***
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************