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Vidar Svendsen
>What about my having Donald beating up a nun in "Last Lord of Eldorado"?
>Actually, I have never hesitated in putting Christian symbols in my stories
>when historical accuracy or background details demanded or suggested it.

I thought Donald understood who the "nun" was? Do you want me toput a
scan of it on the homepage? (maybe I'll do that.. hm..)
I didn't say you hesitate in putting Christian symbols in your stories, or
did I?

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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven

And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
Fluks, H.W.
Tristan:
>THOSE WHO MAINTAIN THE DCD
>Where do you get all the information in this database?

Basicly from three sources: people contributing, indexes published
elsewhere, and the creators themselves.
If you want to know who contributed, have a look at

http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast/indexers.html

For a list of published indexes that we used (or did not use), I refer
to

http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/indind.html

And finally, some history (crediting individual contributions) can be
found at

http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/whatsnew.html

(As always: if you can't surf on the web, I can send you the files by
e-mail.)

>Specifically, who drew and wrote each story. I can understand Barks, info
>regarding his stories is pretty widespread, but where do you find all the
>other info?

Apart from the writers and artists themselves, some of the editors also
help us with that data.
And a lot of credits from old USA stories come from the well-researched
"Disney Index" books, by Alberto Becattini (one book in cooperation with
Luca Boschi).

>Also I own a couple issues of HDL, Junior Woodchucks that arent on the list,
>could I help fill in some blanks?

Yes, please! Tell me (in private e-mail) what you have!

>What does everyone spend, say per-month, or per-year, on disney comics?

I think I don't want to know...

--Harry.
Kosarin
I'm not sure who had the 'head start' but here's what I know.
=95The Rockerduck family hated Scrooge before he even knew about them.
=95Flintheart is currently richer.
=95There was a short time when John had more money but somehow he messed
up.

Nick Kosarin
Kriton Kyrimis
ANDERS & HARRY:

> > In t[w]o of Barks' stories he mentioned the
> > country Brutopia: In the first of the
> > stories (Cold bargain, US 17), it is
> > mentioned that the country owns 5 Bath Tubs
>
> Bath tubs? In the Dutch translation (from 1983) the country has 5 colour
> TVs. What does the original English say?

Five kitchen sinks. Here is the actual dialog:

BRUTOPIAN: But *I* am not through! My country, Brutopia, bids one trillion
dollars and *all* of the *kitchen sinks* of its happy people!
SCROOGE: About *broke*, eh? How *many* kitchen sinks do your happy people
*have*?
BRUTOPIAN: *Five*!
SCROOGE: Then I bid one trillion dollars and *six* kitchen sinks!
AUCTIONEER: *Sold*! Sold to the little duck with the many sinks and the *big*
bankroll!

The reference to kitchen sinks refers to the American idiom "everything
including the kitchen sink", which means "everything", in an emphatic
way. In this story, Barks had the Brutopian literally bid everything
his counry had, including the kitchen sink!

In a similar manner, the role-playing game "nethack", which has code
contributed by numerous people, also has everything including the kitchen
sink in it: in various places in the dungeon you can find kitchen sinks,
in which you can lose your magic rings if you drop them!

Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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Paolo Castagno
Hi,

Arthur Faria Jr. wrote:

> My name is Arthur Faria Jr. I'm a Brazilian fan of Disney
> Comics (of course), and I was a Disney writer for Brazilian
> publisher Editora Abril from 1982 to 1997, when then Abril
> sadly decided to stop its local production.

Welcome on the list, Arthur, I'm happy to meet someone expert in brazilian
stories: in the past years on Topolino have been published something like
392(!) brazilian stories, of which I don't know anything at all (artist,
author, etc) It will be interesting to know something more on this production.

> So, I really hope I'm not
> bothering you all with so many English errors. <:-)

If you lurked on the list for all that time, you surely saw a lot of English
errors... and many of them coming by me! :-(

> I have a question about The Phantom Blot (one of my preferred
> Disney villains, since I saw him in Murry's "The Return of the Phantom
> Blot" when I was a kid in the 60s - this story really impressed me!).
> I know that his first appearance was in "Mickey Mouse Outwits the
> Phantom Blot" and there is another version drawn by Dick Moore, and
> then the above mentioned Murry's story in middle 60s. But I read
> two stories where The Blot appeared, also in middle 60s, and one
> thing always intrigued me: despite the fact that they were published
> here _after_ Murry's "Return...", the Brazilian editors didn't call
> him by the correct name.
>
>
> - The second one is "O Mestre Faixa-Preta" (something like "Goofy the
> Black Belt Master"). The plot is about Goofy been deceived by a crook
> commanded by Black Pete. He convinced Goofy that he is a "Hopping-Judo"
> master, a supposed kind of martial art. But it's just an evil plan in order
> to use Goofy to carry secret plans to Pete's boss, The Blot (here with
> no mask all the time, wearing an elegant black tie! But it's undoubtedly
> The Blot). I think it's an Italian story, too. Here again the Brazilian
> editors changed his name: now he is "Doutor Sombra" (Doctor Shadow),
> and I think they changed it because they thought the readers wouldn't
> accept The Blot without his classical mantle (it's valid for the other
> story, I guess). This story was never reprinted, as far as I know.
>
> * end of spoilers *
>
> I'd like to know the artists and story code, if someone knows; also
> if these two stories were published _before or after_ Murry's "Return...",
> and if there are another Blot's stories made by these or other artists
> in that period of time (middle 60s).

The first story (O Pagagaio do Cientista) is reported (in Marco Barlotti's FSB)
as "Topolino e il pappagallo matematico" written by Barosso, drawn by Scarpa
and inked by Cavazzano, it counts 29 pages and it's coded I TL 347-B, so its
first publication was on Topolino 347 on 22 july 1962.

The second story you describe sounds familiar, but I can't recall exactly the
details. Can you provide a scan of the first page or add some more clues?

Ciao,

- Paolo
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney
Paolo Castagno
> Anders:
> >In t[w]o of Barks' stories he mentioned the
> >country Brutopia: In the first of the
> >stories (Cold bargain, US 17), it is
> >mentioned that the country owns 5 Bath Tubs

> Harry:
> Bath tubs? In the Dutch translation (from 1983) the country has 5 colour
> TVs. What does the original English say?

In my original version they are 5 kitchen sinks, just like in the Italian
version.

- Paolo
Paolo Castagno
Hi,

Don Rosa (welcome back!) wrote:

> I spent Wednesday of last week in Grant's Pass, visiting Carl Barks, at his
> invitation.

You lucky man! ;-)

I'm feeling a lot like Oliver Twist, since I'm gonna asking for MORE!
I'd like to know even the most insane detail you noticed in your visit at Barks'
!!
...maybe I'm being too rude, since it's none of my business, but...hey Barks is
really a MYTH to me, so, after all, I think it's normal to try to gain as much
infos as possible about Him!

BTW, I think that could be interesting to read from you, or from someone else on
this list, a reportage on the San Diego Comics Convention: what was it about,
how are structured events like this in the USA, how much relevance is given to
Disney comics, etc...

Ciao,

- Paolo
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
ANDERS CHR.:

>I know that in the Disney Italia (www.topolino.it)
>profiles he has his own, as does Donald's car,
>313, and even Uncle Scrooge's No.1 Dime has it's own profile....
>
>I would like to know where these profiles are on that
>homepage. I've tried looking, but as I don't understand
>a single bit of the Italian language, I could not find the
>profile page...

Not that I read Italian that well either, but I was lucky enough
to find it easily anyway:

http://www.disney.it/ConsumerProducts/banda/second.htm#313

The new PKNA is out today too:

http://www.disney.it/ConsumerProducts/edicola/pk/index.htm

WWW.DISNEY.IT-fan Ole
Paolo Castagno
Hi,

TO Disney Italia people on the list:
Some weeks ago on Italian Disney publications there was an advertising
about a new book reprinting some Barks stories soldjust by
"snail-mail": "I Tesori".
It's a very interesting book, in high quality paper and at an
affordable price (15 Euro) where for each story is proposed the
original version with b/w panels, original USA lettering, etc. and the
italian, coloured, version.

Too bad that there is a mistake:
at page 54 there are presented the Italian publications of the story
""DD and the Gorilla" , and the FIRST one of them seems to be in "Il
Tascabilone #15".... too bad that this issue DOESN'T exists.
They messed up some things: "Il Tascabilone" was a title published in
the 80ties, where is possible to find some reprints of *another* title
"Gli Albi Tascabili Di Topolino" published in the early 50ties. There
are just 9 issues of "Il Tascabilone", while there are about 150
issues of "Gli Albi Tascabili di Topolino", and issue #15 of gATdT
contains the story "DD and the Gorilla"!
So it is explained: they mixed up the 2 titles...

Just a question to our translators: in all the previous Italian
versions of the story, HDL have a rabbit's foot to bring them luck,
and so it is in the original version too. Then WHY did you changed it
in "totem portafortuna" (lucky-bringer totem) on this occasion?
Did someone from WWF said something about ducks with rabbit's feet?

Just another question: on the cover of the book is a reproduc(k)tion
of Hank Porter's (?) cover for "DD Finds Pirate Gold", so since the
story isn't reprinted on that book, and since the cover isn't from
Barks, why did you choose it?

Ciao and thanks for your answers,

- Paolo
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney
Francesco Spreafico
Here's my very important contribution: 8-)

ANDERS CHRISTIAN wrote:

>I would like to know where these profiles are on that
>homepage. I've tried looking, but as I don't understand
>a single bit of the Italian language, I could not find the
>profile page... what excactly should I look for, because
>I want to find the pages, no matter if I understand anything,
>or not. Please help!!!

Here it is:
http://www.disney.it/ConsumerProducts/banda/index.htm

It took me a lot to find it, it's kinda hidden!
You gotta choose the character at the bottom of the page.

DON R. wrote:
>I spent Wednesday of last week in Grant's Pass, visiting Carl >Barks, at his
invitation.

That's really great! Even though I'm new to the list, I'm reading the old
archives, and I'm in the middle of '94 now: things seemed so different then!
I'm very relieved to know that Barks is as I hoped he was way before reading the
archives!
I guess you are VERY happy now, and won't forget D.U.C.K.'s any more. 8-)

Thanks for telling us all!

TRISTAN wrote:
>What does everyone spend, say per-month, or per-year, on >disney comics?

Each month I spend about 20$ in old '70 Topolino's, then another 14$ for new
issues (T, ZP, PKNA & MD) and then I better not count how much in books: I found
all these lately: Yellow Book, Blue Book, "The Art of Cavazzano" edited by Luca
Boschi, "Giorgio Cavazzano" editied by Silvano Mezzavilla, "Il Topolino di F.
Gottfredson, by Paolo Castagno... (well, this last one was _not_ so
expansive;-).
And I better not count March either, 'cause at Cartoomics (an expo with a market
too) this year I spent more than 170$ AARRGGHH!! I won't sum it to see how much
it is per year! 8-)
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Don Markstein had his only second-ever story in the Egmont
weeklies today, and it deserves praise - not just because of
Ferioli's art, as those who know my preferences could think.

Chances are Gladstone will come around to the story, D 97632,
sooner or later, so Kriton will probably appreciate a

<SPOILER>

It surprised me a little just how thematically close the story was
to several recent Egmont Mickey stories - David Gerstein's come
to mind - and I started to wonder if Egmont editors (Hi, Byron!)
are asking for a particular... brand of stories?

Not that I mind, but would it be related to Egmont's new market
in Eastern Europe that the common cultural frame of reference is
fairy tales, and not as we see it in Italy, litterary classics (the
reknown "parodies") or the "TV America" we all know so well?

Admittedly, there were references to the several clearly identifiable
works of fiction (and an inside-joke of a sort: notice how closely
the professor's house resembles the one in Ferioli's debut story
in the US about the weather maker?)

Speaking of spoilers, I immediately recognized the big guy in the
story and was for some reason disappointed/puzzled by the little,
mysterious guy turning out to be... *not* Mickey himself! No Donald
or Goofy either... Must be my own cultural frame of reference that's
been warped. :-)

Anyway, thanks for a great story, and sorry for being more cryptic
than usual, but I myself never could resist a

<\SPOILER>

Ole
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
DON ROSA:
>Well, I think that's already quite enough for me to presume that anyone
>wants to know. But I will be glad to answer any specific questions if
>someone is curious about something I failed to mention in this brief report.

I'm most likely not the only one to be relieved that the nightmare has ended.
"Knowing" you both it felt strange how two genuinely nice people could get
so alienated, and I'm about as happy as a kid who's told his parents aren't
getting a divorce afterall.

Specific questions about something you didn't mention?
That's a tough one, but here are some questions which must be asked:

What does Barks *really* think of your work?

Did the two of you talk about working together on a story?

Will Barks join this list?

Ole "RoC"
(Ignore that last question: I'm just dreaming out loud.)
Katie Sullivan
Don Rosa,

Thanks for sharing that *wonderful* experience with us! I'm so happy for you.
What a special thing to hold in your memory! Wow. Just...wow. At the risk of
sounding like a drooling obsessed fan (again?), no one deserves a day with the
Duck Man as much as you.
One question you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but which I am curious
about... Did the D.U.C.K. dedication come up at all? I think that's so clever.
I hope Barks likes it. (P.S...it could also stand for "Dedicated to Unca Carl
from Katie". Tee hee. Not that I would ever steal your trademark! :-)

On to other, more mundane things...

As was previously said, I think Glomgold is obviously the 2nd richest duck, since
Barks said so himself in a story title, and many other stories. I mean, the whole
point of creating Glomgold's character was because he's such a close rival of
Scrooge.
I'm not even sure Rockerduck would be third. But then, I'm a lowly,
comic-deprived American. I haven't read too many stories with Rockerduck.
Which brings me to another point...
Scrooge is referred to as both the richest duck and the richest "man" in the
world. (We can assume that "man" refers to all the anthropomorphic critters in the
Duck universe.) But is Flintheart ever referred to as anything but the 2nd
richest duck? Hearkening back to the famous Barks "statue story", what about the
Maharjah (sp?) of Howduyastan? Wasn't he supposedly the 2nd richest "man" in the
world at that time? So is he the 2nd richest person, while Flintheart is only the
second-richest *duck*? Just a random thought.

:-)

As for how much I pay for comics in a year... I *really* don't want to think
about it! Especially not with college starting in 2 weeks! I may love Scrooge
stories, but I'm certainly not as rich as he is! ;-) Maybe the old miser would
give me a handful of greenbacks of Mound 37-D if I offer to polish all his
pennies. Knowing Scrooge, I'd end up on my hind end on the sidewalk in 3 seconds
flat! :-D

I'm sleepy. I get even weirder than usual when I'm sleepy. So I'll shut up now.
:-)

Good night, everybody! (Or Good morning, depending on your time zone!!)

Katie Quackfaster
http://fly.to/duckburg
Rich Bellacera
ANDERS:
RE: Italian Character profiles (www.topolino.it):
>I would like to know where these profiles are on that
>homepage. I've tried looking, but .....

Sorry 'bout that. I went back and found that what had happened is
that there must be some links which jump between webpages for
I found out that I had actually jumped from the "topolino" site
to the "Disney.it" site. Here is the exact address which should
assist your search better:
http://www.disney.it/ConsumerProducts/banda/index.htm

-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Fluks, H.W.
Good morning, Katie!
> Scrooge is referred to as both the richest duck and the richest "man" in the
> world.

Just curious: where is he referred to as the richest *man*?

--Harry.
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