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Hello
DANIEL
Yeah, that's nice on your homepage: A guidebook, not quite yet,
you mention the mailing list having talked about who Paul Bunyan was,
why don't you just say it? I would like to know! Please... Tell who he was
I'm curious to read the story in it's full length sometime.

Anders:

>On the last pages, called kids: those numbers after the letters=20
>to the editor, are those ages?=20
>75, 91, 76, 83 and 91 that is certainly some "old" readers!!

It is the "departement" (not the age of course...). The country is
divided in 95 departements (or something like 95). So that's the place
where you live.

>All in all the magazine seems to be an all-Barks and Rosa issue,=20
>and it's my impressions that it is often that way with Zio Paperone=20
>and Komix (Greece) too?

It was not the case a few years ago. But the Vicar and Branca stuff are
considered not good enough to be published. Personally, I think the
Vicar and Branca stories published in the late 80s or the beginning of
the 90s were better than now (in my humble opinion).

>Well the mag. has a lot of editorials, but it's the stories I like:=20
>Don Rosa's Cash Flow (L'argent coule =E0 flots); it has been=20
>published in France eleven years ago, but with two comic=20
>pages on one single page =3D very small. There's an example=20
>from page 19 in the story, very small in 1987. I thougt it was=20
>only Barks' masterpieces that were mistrteated in that way,=20
>not Rosa's too!?!?=20

"Cash Flow" was published in 1988 (with an introduction mentionning the
name of the author!) in 5-tier format.

In fact everything published in JM (Italian, Western, Brazilian, Dutch
and Studio stories) was reformated (except F-coded stories of course):
6-tier (18 panels/a page) in the 50s/60s and 5-tier (15 panels/a page)
after. But the pages of JM were very big at the time, so the drawings
are not so small. Usually, 5 or 10 % of the panels were deleted ;-(.

Anyway, I'm glad you like the magazine!

Francois

Hi all,

I am not a lurker -- I used to be an active member of the list a few years
ago, but nowadays I no longer even manage to *read* all the messages that
come in. I say this with sadness, because this used to be a very nice and
friendly place for me. The same has even happened with my participation to
the indexers' list, of which I was part even before it started! This is
also sad; even more so, since I have repeatedly left a certain important
project half-baked (sorry Marco!). Both my real work and, in my spare time,
my comics work (funnily...), are preventing me to take part in the
discussions you people have on these two great lists.

But, in the case of Don's message about his visit to Oregon, I was
independently told by a few friends -- not least of which Don himself. So I
read that ML message with great joy when it came out.

I reported a few months ago (it was Harry's birthday, I later found out)
about my writing a letter to Carl Barks, after years of silence induced by
his "managers", in which I told him how happy I was that he had finally
kicked out the bad guys. Among many other subjects I mentioned Don Rosa,
ignoring the fact that having been "contaminated" by him had been the
reason why my own mail to Barks had been censored; I mentioned Don's
sincere admiration for Barks and his putting his heart into his stories
(those who have read the brilliant spontaneous interview to Don on my web
page, one of the four in the book we did on him, will know what I mean).

Some will recall Carl Barks's reply, which I quoted in my enthusiastic
report on Volume 98 Issue 129 of this digest: among other things it said

"Someday soon my lawyer may even feel it is safe for me to meet and
talk with Michael and Don Rosa."

WOW! What exciting news! Just like many others here, whose replies I've
just read in these past digests since Don's announcement, I was overjoyed
to hear this, having felt the injustice of... well, you know. And I replied:

"It was with great pleasure that I read of your wish that someday soon
your lawyer might give you the okay to talk to Don Rosa. When this happens
you'll realise how much all of this hatred spread around by your
ex-managers was untrue, and instead how much Don is a genuine fan of yours,
who always found your comics so inspirational that he ended up liquidating
the construction company he inherited from his father and grandfather just
because he got a chance to draw the ducks instead. Of the many authors who
have followed in your footsteps, he is the one who tries least to imitate
and also the one who most closely recreates that spirit of quest and
adventure that made your longer tales so fascinating. The reason I think
he's a good duck author is because he understands and respects the spirit
of your original Uncle Scrooge character, and he writes his stories from
the heart. This is what makes the difference -- not his weird and peculiar
artwork or his frequent Barks quotations or any of that other more
superficial stuff."

Today I find no better words than these to describe how I feel about this
meeting having finally happened. It's just SO GOOD!

Actually no, I *do* have some extra words: and they're words of sincere
thanks for the two GREAT guys that made this possible: Michael Naiman, who
gave me fantastic hospitality this March and organised the "birthday
letters pack" (with more dedication and
determination-against-unbelievable-murphistic-adversities than you can
imagine; perhaps one day someone will tell that story, right Michael?), and
Gerry Tank, with whom I only got in touch very recently but who has already
demonstrated with facts, in many ways, that he is the best thing that could
happen to good ol' Carl.
Carl, if you're reading this, you've really got a very good friend there
(as if you needed me to tell you...) and I'm _so_ happy to think that you
have the company of such a nice, modest, honest and genuinely caring
gentleman. Must be a welcome change from these leeches!...

Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano) http://www.orl.co.uk/~fms

ANDERS CHRISTIAN --
Thanks for the nice words. I'm glad you thought
highly of my first published Mickey Mouse story (and hope
you like the second, coming out in three weeks, and the
five that aren't scheduled yet, just as well).
Paul Bunyan is an American faux legend. He's a
19th century lumberjack who's as tall as a fairy tale
giant. He was created in the 1920s as part of an
advertising campaign, but has since become so widely
known that his stories almost qualify as folk tales.
(He's also become so independent of his advertising
origins that I don't even know what product he
advertised, tho I think I once did.)

SHAUN CRAIL --
Longhorn Tallgrass made a cameo appearance in a
Don Rosa story, as one of a crowd of billionaires hanging
around an airport looking for Scrooge (while Scrooge was
walking past them in disguise).

ARTHUR FARIA JR. --
GASOLINE ALLEY is a very famous comic strip in the
U.S. It was probably the first in which characters aged
normally -- Skeezix, who was introduced as a baby in
1918, is now a grandfather (and there would probably be
yet another generation, if the clock hadn't slowed
considerably since about the '60s). It's also one of
the few that didn't go straight downhill when its creator
died -- Dick Moores continued it admirably on the death
of Frank King. It's still coming out, written and drawn
by a guy named Jim Scancarelli -- who does a fine job,
by the way, but not as good as Moores.

KATHY FITZ --
"I am currently 49 (as of August 8)"
What a coincidence -- my wife is 49 as of August
7. (Which qualifies you as a "younger woman", I guess.)

(By the way, to respond to the census -- I'm 51 years old,
living in Phoenix, AZ, USA. Somebody, please, assure me
I'm not the oldest person here.)

Quack, Don

Arthur Faria to Paolo:

>>Welcome on the list, Arthur, I'm happy to meet someone expert in
>>brazilian stories: in the past years on Topolino have been published
>>something like 392(!) brazilian stories, of which I don't know
>>anything at all (artist, author, etc) It will be interesting to know
>>something more on this
>>production.
>
>"Expert"? What a responsibility! Well, I promise that I'll do my best!
>Among these 392 brazilian stories, what is the most published main
>character? I bet is Ze' (Joe) Carioca, though he's so regional=20
>(I've always tried to make more "universal" stories with him).

Welcome to the list Arthur, from me too. As Paolo said, many Brazilian
stories were published in Italy... and also in France (I've heard that
these are pretty rare in other European countries?).

In France, many were published in the Journal de Mickey, re-formated to
5-tier format (is the 3-tier layout, the "usual" format for Brazilian
stories?), mostly in the late 80s. These are not in the database (I
haven't indexed any issues from that period). The Brazilian stories
published in JM were mostly Scrooge, Donald, Fethry, Daisy and Gyro
stories. Some are still reprinted here, from time to time (though it is
rarer now).

To name a few, the ones I have a pleasant recollection of are:

-several stories with Ludwig Von Drake telling the history (history of
Duckburg, e.g. with Emil Eagle), published in "Picsou"
-In Super Picsou G=E9ant, some gag pages of "Ze Carioca" (the only ones
published here)
-Many short Gyro stories (similar to the Barks ones) pub. in JM
-in Picsou Magazine in the late 80s, some stories from the series "Os
Adoloscentes" (teenagers) with the Italian character Paperetta Ye'-Ye'
(?)
-in the beginning of the 90s, many Daisy stories, featuring Daisy as a
"modern" (liberated) woman.
-some with Fethry as the "King of the Jungle" or the "king of the sea"
-some stories with DD and Fethry working at Scrooge's newspaper (some o=
f
them are really great)
-Mickey and Goofy in the space
-I also remember some good special stories with the Ducks travelling
through time, or a story with LVD explaining what is a computer.

This is a short condensed version of what was published in France! (I
guess most were reprinted in Italy, too). I don't say this because
you're in Brazil, but I think that some of them are some of the best
published in JM in the 80s.

I have almost no credit for these stories in my database. I think Irine=
u
Soares Rodrigues is one of the best artist. New credits or any new
information about the Brazilian production would be very interesting of
course!

As for the Japanese story you describe, I have no idea.

>Do you (or someone) know any others Blot's stories in mid-60s where
>he appeared unmasked, before Murry's "Return of the Phantom Blot"?

I TL 279-B "Topolino e le evasioni impossibili"
I TL 340-B "Topolino e i malefici sette" (but I think he's masked here=
.There's Joe Piper in the story too)
I TL 383-B "Topolino e la villa disabitata"
I TL 387-B "Topolino e il dromedario viola"
I TL 455-A "Topolino e i puledri dell=92aria"
I TL 485-C "Topolino e il dipinto ridipinto"

Is that new? (I found it in the database).

Francois

David:
> My favourite is Moby Duck, "The Ghost Ship of Captain Crook".
> I could delve into the archives to find the information....

Could this be "By Hook or by Crook" from Moby Duck #12? In that case I'm
not surprised that you like it: that story was written by Mark Evanier.
(I have never seen the story myself, though.)

--Harry.
("Only" 36 years old, from Leidchendam in the Netherlands, Europe.)

CHRISTOPHER
Thanks for the hear, hear!

Now I know they are called spats; but you forgot Gladstone
and Flintheart, (Don't forget that Rockerduck wears normal
shoes) they wear spats too, as Donald also does in festive
occasions (or whatever). Barks made a cover once (have to
look it up), for a story that he didn't make, where Donald
wears them. They must be some symbol for wealth.

Hi everyone,

RICHEST DUCK

I was going through some old comics and came across a Barks 5 page story I'd
forgotten all about called U$ and the Fabulous Tycoon. WR-US#23.

In the story U$ says he's the worlds richest *duck* and Donald says he
wonders about that because he's been hearing about another fabulous tycoon
lately. This is someone called Longhorn Tallgrass, and seems to be the same
character from U$ and the 24 Carat Moon, WR-US#24, although in this story he
is named The Fabulous Cattle King. Although the number codes of these
stories suggest that the 24 carat Moon was done afterwards, the actual
fleshing out of the cowboy tycoon character seems to occur in the shorter
story, which either suggests that it was done second and numbered
differently, or Barks was not particularly worried about continuity. These
stories appear in the same comic, so the continuity thing is a bit more
relevant than usual with Barks stories.

Anyway the real point of my post is that while U$ talks about being the
richest *duck* the story goes on to compare Scrooge's wealth with a non-duck
dogface, which tells us that as far as Carl Barks is concerned when it comes
to measuring wealth between character types he makes no distinction. This
means that U$ should be considered the richest character period, but I'm sure
we already knew that!

GENETICS

Wasn't there a recent European story (Egmont?) where it was discovered that
the McDucks had a wealth gene, and when tested Donald was found to have this
gene as a dormant one? Donald's gene suddenly switched itself on and just
when it seemed that he was going to be rich it then switched off again.

regards
Shaun.