Thanks to everybody on the list for the recent intesting reading!
Can I add my vote for 50s ( and earlier) DC/dell colouring - flatter but
more suited to the beautiful and simple art - no wish to criticise but I
suspect that the vibrant computerised colouring and beautiful computer
lettering of the 90s often has to substitute for art quality. I love the
1998 Starman by DC, but suspect that those cool JSA costumes looked much
better in original All Star issues.
And whoever decided to put dollar values on comics, wear suits and auction
the mint copies in hushed tones to other merchant bankers ( rhyming slang )
which inexplicably increased the price of that issue in all grades so that
I'd have to pay a fortune for a beatup copy of Shacktown because it's a
"collectible" (as opposed to a goldurned comic) ....didn't do much for the
hobby.
best wishes to all
tony di dio
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Per Starback
Disney comics Digest V98 #182:"collectibles+ coloring"
Message 16 -
1998-08-02 at 23:32:56
Claudio Eckert
Around and around...
Message 17 -
1998-08-03 at 01:13:48
Hello again!
Let's talk about famous "Lost in the Andes". I still wonder about one -
IMO strange - thing: It's the compass HD&L find at the near end of the
story. Well, it is ROUND, but the square people even stored it in their
museum! I understand that they perhaps didn't looked close enaugh at
Donald's round jacket buttons (or some other things, the Ducks carefully
change at the beginning of Don's sequel), but... Any suggestions?
Anders:
>>... I found the book where the story about Altacraz is. For some
>> reason they call it Sing-Song.>>
In the german translation it's called "Ping-Pong". Seems to be a gag for
"sing-sing".
(see Eta Beta's answer at ML #170) =
>>They had a time-mashine which Mickey and Goofy use in those series; =
>>what's their names in your countries?
I remember the series, but not the names. I'll have look tomorrow... Most=
of "Lustige Taschenb=FCcher" are stored at my parents home (The newer one=
s,
which I don't like so much because they consist of lots of short stories)=
=2E =
=
- Claudio
Let's talk about famous "Lost in the Andes". I still wonder about one -
IMO strange - thing: It's the compass HD&L find at the near end of the
story. Well, it is ROUND, but the square people even stored it in their
museum! I understand that they perhaps didn't looked close enaugh at
Donald's round jacket buttons (or some other things, the Ducks carefully
change at the beginning of Don's sequel), but... Any suggestions?
Anders:
>>... I found the book where the story about Altacraz is. For some
>> reason they call it Sing-Song.>>
In the german translation it's called "Ping-Pong". Seems to be a gag for
"sing-sing".
(see Eta Beta's answer at ML #170) =
>>They had a time-mashine which Mickey and Goofy use in those series; =
>>what's their names in your countries?
I remember the series, but not the names. I'll have look tomorrow... Most=
of "Lustige Taschenb=FCcher" are stored at my parents home (The newer one=
s,
which I don't like so much because they consist of lots of short stories)=
=2E =
=
- Claudio
Kevin William Greenlee
Louisville
Message 18 -
1998-08-03 at 01:26:32
I had completely forgotten Don Rosa was from Louisville. As it happens, I
plan to spend a day or two with some friends down there sometime shortly
after I finish up my current batch of law school exams. If Mr. Rosa can
give me any information on any especially worthwhile comics stores (or
used book stores or record stores) in that area I would be eternally
grateful.
As long as I'm writing I'd like to say that, of course, I love all of Mr.
Rosa's current work but his older stuff is wonderful too. Even his old
"Information Centers" are charming; they also introduced me to the
wonderful world of silver age comics, a world I might otherwise have
missed (I was born in 1971). So I guess what I'm trying to say to Mr. Rosa
is "thanks."
Kevin Greenlee
plan to spend a day or two with some friends down there sometime shortly
after I finish up my current batch of law school exams. If Mr. Rosa can
give me any information on any especially worthwhile comics stores (or
used book stores or record stores) in that area I would be eternally
grateful.
As long as I'm writing I'd like to say that, of course, I love all of Mr.
Rosa's current work but his older stuff is wonderful too. Even his old
"Information Centers" are charming; they also introduced me to the
wonderful world of silver age comics, a world I might otherwise have
missed (I was born in 1971). So I guess what I'm trying to say to Mr. Rosa
is "thanks."
Kevin Greenlee
Xavier Metcalf
Disney comics Digest V98 #182
Message 19 -
1998-08-03 at 02:53:17
BOB KASS:
RE: http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/Compleanno.gif
> Thanks, Rich! I thought the picture was adorable, despite my
> continued protestations about the eggs. Does anyone know if
> this story has been reprinted in an American comic in the last
> few years?
Perhaps I should clear up a misunderstanding. The scan on the
LEFT is from the Italian publication, but the two scenes from
"This is Your Life, Donald Duck" on the RIGHT are indeed from
the American publications first printed in FC #1109 (DELL) -
Aug. 1960, last reprinted in Gladstone's "Donald and Mickey"
#25 ("GLADSTONE)- Sep. 1994. In this tale, as with the cartoon,
Jiminy Cricket is presenting Donald's life to him like in the old
TV show ["This is You Life"]. The cartoon also happens to be one
of the two screen appearances of Grandma Duck (the other being
"Mickey's Christmas Carol").
RE: http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/Compleanno.gif
> Thanks, Rich! I thought the picture was adorable, despite my
> continued protestations about the eggs. Does anyone know if
> this story has been reprinted in an American comic in the last
> few years?
Perhaps I should clear up a misunderstanding. The scan on the
LEFT is from the Italian publication, but the two scenes from
"This is Your Life, Donald Duck" on the RIGHT are indeed from
the American publications first printed in FC #1109 (DELL) -
Aug. 1960, last reprinted in Gladstone's "Donald and Mickey"
#25 ("GLADSTONE)- Sep. 1994. In this tale, as with the cartoon,
Jiminy Cricket is presenting Donald's life to him like in the old
TV show ["This is You Life"]. The cartoon also happens to be one
of the two screen appearances of Grandma Duck (the other being
"Mickey's Christmas Carol").
Www.Conk.Com/world/teme
About collecting and storing stories
Message 20 -
1998-08-03 at 04:07:24
> >but I say when you reach that point your interest is no longer in the
> >stories but in the *collection*)
>
> But a CD can provide much more than paper: original line drawings,
> various colorizations (or your own from hard disk), various translations
> (or your own), various versions (after censor).
As it was to be, because of the fact that I never seem to proofread
anything I write I managed completely misexpress my opinions. For
clarification: Juhana, I agree totally with you that CD (or any
computerbased media) is much more versitile as a storoge unit than mere
paper. What I ment to say in my prev. post to this list was that in my
opinion those who put so much emphasis on 'the actual item' (as in paper
comix book) might not be as interested in storing and reading *the
stories* as they are in enhancing their collection. But this is just my
opinion as a reader. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
yours,
Teme
> >stories but in the *collection*)
>
> But a CD can provide much more than paper: original line drawings,
> various colorizations (or your own from hard disk), various translations
> (or your own), various versions (after censor).
As it was to be, because of the fact that I never seem to proofread
anything I write I managed completely misexpress my opinions. For
clarification: Juhana, I agree totally with you that CD (or any
computerbased media) is much more versitile as a storoge unit than mere
paper. What I ment to say in my prev. post to this list was that in my
opinion those who put so much emphasis on 'the actual item' (as in paper
comix book) might not be as interested in storing and reading *the
stories* as they are in enhancing their collection. But this is just my
opinion as a reader. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
yours,
Teme
Katie Sullivan
New page
Message 21 -
1998-08-03 at 05:11:05
All right, everyone, don't groan too loudly. I have a new webpage up
and running. It's "The Many Loves of Scrooge McDuck." Coming from ME?
What a surprise, huh? ;-)
But you'll be glad to know that Goldie is not the only duck represented.
It's still somewhat under construction, in that there might be a few bum
links, but otherwise it's up and ready for visitors. Tell me what you
think! Corrections, additions, comments, etc, are very much
appreciated!
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/loves.htm
:-)
On a much much darker note, my only grandfather's funeral is tomorrow,
so I won't be around for a while.
Katie Q
and running. It's "The Many Loves of Scrooge McDuck." Coming from ME?
What a surprise, huh? ;-)
But you'll be glad to know that Goldie is not the only duck represented.
It's still somewhat under construction, in that there might be a few bum
links, but otherwise it's up and ready for visitors. Tell me what you
think! Corrections, additions, comments, etc, are very much
appreciated!
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/loves.htm
:-)
On a much much darker note, my only grandfather's funeral is tomorrow,
so I won't be around for a while.
Katie Q
Bror Hellman
Day 8 and 9 of my trip/24th and 25th july
Message 22 -
1998-08-03 at 10:13:52
> I looked in their encyclopedia which did not know about donaldism, and
they
> didn't either, before I told them about it. (It's a bit starnge, hem
having NAFS(k)
> which is for all Sweden, isn't it?)
Well.. Depending on what encyclopedia and it's age... Donaldism is
called "Ankism" in Sweden.
> Did you know that Mortie is named Freddi over there?,
Well... Mortie and Ferdie -> Teddi and Freddi ... :-)
Steamboat Willie
they
> didn't either, before I told them about it. (It's a bit starnge, hem
having NAFS(k)
> which is for all Sweden, isn't it?)
Well.. Depending on what encyclopedia and it's age... Donaldism is
called "Ankism" in Sweden.
> Did you know that Mortie is named Freddi over there?,
Well... Mortie and Ferdie -> Teddi and Freddi ... :-)
Steamboat Willie
Bror Hellman
Children and "simple" stories
Message 23 -
1998-08-03 at 10:37:28
Hi there everyone!
> Donald D. Markstein wrote:
>
> > How many young
> > people -- and young people DO make up the bulk of the
> > audience -- are likely to understand the term "workers'
> > paradise"? Not very many; in fact, it's likely a
> > majority learned to read after the phrase fell out of
> > use in any context except historical. I would naturally
> > replace it with something they DO understand -- not for
> > motives relating in any way to politics or a desire to
> > protect them from certain types of material, but simply
> > to maintain the story's ability to fulfill its primary
> > purpose, i.e., to entertain. A reference to Scrooge
> > McDuck's penny-pinching ways fills the bill.
> > It might be different if I were translating for
> > adult collectors, who could be expected to understand
> > the term and its historic context, and be entertained
> > thereby.
>
>
Well... I don't think that that is the best idea. I know (from my own
childhood)
that reading comics gave me a broader understanding of our language
and of new things in general. I've learned much from (especially Disney)
comics. Even though certain expressions may be outdated, perhaps it
plants a seed in the mind that makes them understand better. Kids are
generally *very* good at combining different facts and trivias into a
total
picture. At least better than we adults seem to think.
All I know about domestic U.S. politics and occurances are bit's and
pieces from verious sources like comics, cartoons, Comic Relief and
a bit CNN here and there... It's amazing what a big picture one can
paint with just a few small pieces of a puzzle.
I don't know if this can be applied to "workers paradise" specifically,
but I don't think it's generally advisable to simplify or modernize
phrases and languages just because the general audience is rather young.
With no challenge when reading, where's the entartainment? :-)
With no challenge, where will there be progress?
I don't propose for Don, Stefan, and all you other masters of Disney
language
to try to impress everyone with the outmost of the language and your
vocabulary.
But I want you *not* to try to oversimplify or take too much
consideration to the
level of the language. Write just what feels okay and what is on your
own level.
I think it will be for the best in the long run.
Of course, I don't know if the term "Workers paradise" means something
useful
in for example Italian, but I discussed similar terms and such with a
pair of seven-year-old
twins just this weekend. I don't think they were particularily
different from others
at the same age.
Steamboat Willie
> Donald D. Markstein wrote:
>
> > How many young
> > people -- and young people DO make up the bulk of the
> > audience -- are likely to understand the term "workers'
> > paradise"? Not very many; in fact, it's likely a
> > majority learned to read after the phrase fell out of
> > use in any context except historical. I would naturally
> > replace it with something they DO understand -- not for
> > motives relating in any way to politics or a desire to
> > protect them from certain types of material, but simply
> > to maintain the story's ability to fulfill its primary
> > purpose, i.e., to entertain. A reference to Scrooge
> > McDuck's penny-pinching ways fills the bill.
> > It might be different if I were translating for
> > adult collectors, who could be expected to understand
> > the term and its historic context, and be entertained
> > thereby.
>
>
Well... I don't think that that is the best idea. I know (from my own
childhood)
that reading comics gave me a broader understanding of our language
and of new things in general. I've learned much from (especially Disney)
comics. Even though certain expressions may be outdated, perhaps it
plants a seed in the mind that makes them understand better. Kids are
generally *very* good at combining different facts and trivias into a
total
picture. At least better than we adults seem to think.
All I know about domestic U.S. politics and occurances are bit's and
pieces from verious sources like comics, cartoons, Comic Relief and
a bit CNN here and there... It's amazing what a big picture one can
paint with just a few small pieces of a puzzle.
I don't know if this can be applied to "workers paradise" specifically,
but I don't think it's generally advisable to simplify or modernize
phrases and languages just because the general audience is rather young.
With no challenge when reading, where's the entartainment? :-)
With no challenge, where will there be progress?
I don't propose for Don, Stefan, and all you other masters of Disney
language
to try to impress everyone with the outmost of the language and your
vocabulary.
But I want you *not* to try to oversimplify or take too much
consideration to the
level of the language. Write just what feels okay and what is on your
own level.
I think it will be for the best in the long run.
Of course, I don't know if the term "Workers paradise" means something
useful
in for example Italian, but I discussed similar terms and such with a
pair of seven-year-old
twins just this weekend. I don't think they were particularily
different from others
at the same age.
Steamboat Willie
Bror Hellman
Disney comics Digest V98 #176
Message 24 -
1998-08-03 at 11:08:21
> David Gerstein Wrote:
>
> Thinking about it again, I came up with a reason for me being
> uncomfortable with ducks from eggs:
> only fewest times there are eggs shown as "ducks to hatch", and I
> don't recall any scene showing little ducks escaping from the
> eggshell - that could be compared to giving birth, or stuff like that
-
> impossible to show in a childrens' comic :-((
Well... You should read "Donald Duck - my life in an eggshell"
(What is the actual English title??) by the talented Marco Rota.
There you have a story about Donald Duck from egg to present.
It's the famous story where U$ and Grandma are presented as
siblings. They find Donald on the road, but later discovers that
he really are related to them.
Well... Don Rosa's history of U$ have a different angle at this
whole caboodle about Donald's early childhood... :-)
I wish that Don once sat down and wrote the Life and Times of Donald
Duck.
of course it would be very short, but I am confident it would be worth
reading.
Steamboat Willie
>
> Thinking about it again, I came up with a reason for me being
> uncomfortable with ducks from eggs:
> only fewest times there are eggs shown as "ducks to hatch", and I
> don't recall any scene showing little ducks escaping from the
> eggshell - that could be compared to giving birth, or stuff like that
-
> impossible to show in a childrens' comic :-((
Well... You should read "Donald Duck - my life in an eggshell"
(What is the actual English title??) by the talented Marco Rota.
There you have a story about Donald Duck from egg to present.
It's the famous story where U$ and Grandma are presented as
siblings. They find Donald on the road, but later discovers that
he really are related to them.
Well... Don Rosa's history of U$ have a different angle at this
whole caboodle about Donald's early childhood... :-)
I wish that Don once sat down and wrote the Life and Times of Donald
Duck.
of course it would be very short, but I am confident it would be worth
reading.
Steamboat Willie
Claudia Rege Cambrin
Mr. Saehr & mr. Kloghsen & my collection
Message 25 -
1998-08-03 at 11:41:30
Hello!
ANDERS wrote:
>> prof. Krinkelkrogh/Saehr/Lunetta/Rebus/Ferm/Cumulus/Finurlig/Rahr and
>> dr. Kvalm, as well as Otto Man (in a crossword/puzzle book)...
>
>Now, about that mr. Saehr (Strange) was that not another
>prof. too, I remember him as working together with a mr.
>Kloghsen (Wise), in the danish Pocket-books. They had
>a time-mashine which Mickey and Goofy use in those series;
>what's their names in your countries?
It seems you're talking about the characters named Prof. Zapotec and Prof.
Marlin in Italy.
About Proz. Zapotec, I'm quite sure he was "born" in the story "Topolino e
l'enigma di MU" (from "Topolino" #1238-1239). I don't know muck about his
colleague Marlin (but I'm confident other members of the list do...).
DON ROSA wrote:
>and this finally, sadly resulted in
>the idea that a "collector" is someone who is seeking financial enhancement
>rather than intellectual pleasure.
That's NOT my case! (I already said I don't call my comics a "collection").
I'm on the opposite position: I would be puzzled, if not disappointed, if I
learned that some of my comics are of great prize, because then I would be
tempted to sell them, which I do not want to! I really prefer to think they
are of no great value, so I can read them with no fear and keep them with
no regrets...;)
Bye for now,
Claudia
(((( --------------------------------------------------
jgs { '> Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs.
/ ,\ --------------------------------------------------
/_/ / Claudia Rege Cambrin ((Email removed))
===//="==== Corso Nazionale 161, 19125 La Spezia (SP) - ITALY
/ --------------------------------------------------
ANDERS wrote:
>> prof. Krinkelkrogh/Saehr/Lunetta/Rebus/Ferm/Cumulus/Finurlig/Rahr and
>> dr. Kvalm, as well as Otto Man (in a crossword/puzzle book)...
>
>Now, about that mr. Saehr (Strange) was that not another
>prof. too, I remember him as working together with a mr.
>Kloghsen (Wise), in the danish Pocket-books. They had
>a time-mashine which Mickey and Goofy use in those series;
>what's their names in your countries?
It seems you're talking about the characters named Prof. Zapotec and Prof.
Marlin in Italy.
About Proz. Zapotec, I'm quite sure he was "born" in the story "Topolino e
l'enigma di MU" (from "Topolino" #1238-1239). I don't know muck about his
colleague Marlin (but I'm confident other members of the list do...).
DON ROSA wrote:
>and this finally, sadly resulted in
>the idea that a "collector" is someone who is seeking financial enhancement
>rather than intellectual pleasure.
That's NOT my case! (I already said I don't call my comics a "collection").
I'm on the opposite position: I would be puzzled, if not disappointed, if I
learned that some of my comics are of great prize, because then I would be
tempted to sell them, which I do not want to! I really prefer to think they
are of no great value, so I can read them with no fear and keep them with
no regrets...;)
Bye for now,
Claudia
(((( --------------------------------------------------
jgs { '> Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs.
/ ,\ --------------------------------------------------
/_/ / Claudia Rege Cambrin ((Email removed))
===//="==== Corso Nazionale 161, 19125 La Spezia (SP) - ITALY
/ --------------------------------------------------
Fluks, H.W.
Anders
Message 26 -
1998-08-03 at 13:23:17
ANDERS:
> Do you really wear glasses, Harry?
Yep. See http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/introduc.html if you want proof!
> did you see, that I changed the CC?
Yes, but that doesn't make sense either. Why send your message to the
list twice?
Why not leave the CC field empty?
> A total different question, directed to Harry,
> when was the Disney Comics Database created,
> and what about the ftp archive?
The ftp version of the DcD started 4 or 5 years ago (I think. Probably
Per Starback knows the exact dates). But before that, I have indexed my
Dutch comics for over 20 years.
In fact, Daniel van Eijmeren pointed out to me that this year it's
exactly 15 years ago that I started to put my indexes in the computer
(on punch cards!).
> until two years ago I actually
> thought that it was only me among normal people,
> that had noticed something called story codes
You might still be the only normal person noticing these codes - it
depends on the definition of *normal*... 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
> Do you really wear glasses, Harry?
Yep. See http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/introduc.html if you want proof!
> did you see, that I changed the CC?
Yes, but that doesn't make sense either. Why send your message to the
list twice?
Why not leave the CC field empty?
> A total different question, directed to Harry,
> when was the Disney Comics Database created,
> and what about the ftp archive?
The ftp version of the DcD started 4 or 5 years ago (I think. Probably
Per Starback knows the exact dates). But before that, I have indexed my
Dutch comics for over 20 years.
In fact, Daniel van Eijmeren pointed out to me that this year it's
exactly 15 years ago that I started to put my indexes in the computer
(on punch cards!).
> until two years ago I actually
> thought that it was only me among normal people,
> that had noticed something called story codes
You might still be the only normal person noticing these codes - it
depends on the definition of *normal*... 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
Fluks, H.W.
Kriton (or, in Dutch: Aumun Tandesittelos 8-)
Message 27 -
1998-08-03 at 13:34:27
KRITON:
> A question for you and all those with meters upon meters and feet upon
> feet of comics: What do you *do* with all those comics?
I'm doing almost exactly what you have been describing. As I wrote in my
introducktion:
<<Nowadays I try to read all my Disney material in sequence: when I'm
finished with the last issue, I start again with the first. Such a cycle
can take 2 or 3 years... >>
At this moment I'm reading the Gottfredson stories in the right order,
from a kind of "FG Library". After that, I plan to start with the Dutch
weeklies again.
> each time I go through the collection it takes longer than
> the previous time, as I keep adding to the collection.
Hm... my additions are not that many these days. And I tend to skip a
lot of stories that I think are very bad.
I fully agree with anyone that a "collection" of comics is for
*reading*. The day I don't enjoy reading the comics anymore, I will sell
them (or throw them away, if noone else wants them).
> HENNING REICHSTEIN: [OLE, actually]
>> I use both sides of the shelves...
> You mean the top and *bottom* sides?
No, he means the front and back sides! (I can testify - I have seen
them...)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
> A question for you and all those with meters upon meters and feet upon
> feet of comics: What do you *do* with all those comics?
I'm doing almost exactly what you have been describing. As I wrote in my
introducktion:
<<Nowadays I try to read all my Disney material in sequence: when I'm
finished with the last issue, I start again with the first. Such a cycle
can take 2 or 3 years... >>
At this moment I'm reading the Gottfredson stories in the right order,
from a kind of "FG Library". After that, I plan to start with the Dutch
weeklies again.
> each time I go through the collection it takes longer than
> the previous time, as I keep adding to the collection.
Hm... my additions are not that many these days. And I tend to skip a
lot of stories that I think are very bad.
I fully agree with anyone that a "collection" of comics is for
*reading*. The day I don't enjoy reading the comics anymore, I will sell
them (or throw them away, if noone else wants them).
> HENNING REICHSTEIN: [OLE, actually]
>> I use both sides of the shelves...
> You mean the top and *bottom* sides?
No, he means the front and back sides! (I can testify - I have seen
them...)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
Frank Fabian
Miscellanea
Message 28 -
1998-08-03 at 14:05:10
Whew .... just finished reading two weeks' worth of digests that had been
piling up while I was away on vacation. It takes quite some time. I've got
only two small comments:
TEME:
>But although CDs might not for eternity they still last longer, I should
>think, than print.
I should think otherwise. CDs are estimated to have a "life expectancy" of
about 50 years, whereas printed books, provided the paper is acid-free,
easily last for centuries. The oldest printed *book* is considerer to be
the Gutenberg bible, which was printed shortly after 1450 and still around
in several copies in perfect condition.
ETA BETA:
>...would an American misspell the word "villain" as
>>"villian"? 8-)
>
>Yes. I have dozens of emails that prove just that ;-)
>
... as well some misspell "niece" as "neice" (are you reading this, Katie?
You know, i before e except after c? No offense intended!) ;-) :-)
Best regards,
Frank
piling up while I was away on vacation. It takes quite some time. I've got
only two small comments:
TEME:
>But although CDs might not for eternity they still last longer, I should
>think, than print.
I should think otherwise. CDs are estimated to have a "life expectancy" of
about 50 years, whereas printed books, provided the paper is acid-free,
easily last for centuries. The oldest printed *book* is considerer to be
the Gutenberg bible, which was printed shortly after 1450 and still around
in several copies in perfect condition.
ETA BETA:
>...would an American misspell the word "villain" as
>>"villian"? 8-)
>
>Yes. I have dozens of emails that prove just that ;-)
>
... as well some misspell "niece" as "neice" (are you reading this, Katie?
You know, i before e except after c? No offense intended!) ;-) :-)
Best regards,
Frank
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
D 97052 - Tittle in English
Message 29 -
1998-08-03 at 16:05:26
Hi everyone
As a fan I know that Don Rosa's story D 97052 is called
W. H. A. D. A. L. O. T. T. A. J. A. R. G. O. N.,
but what do all those letters mean. I know what the
danish title mean, but that doesn't help.
Could anyone help me here, what about Don Rosa himself?
Anders Christian
(Email removed)
As a fan I know that Don Rosa's story D 97052 is called
W. H. A. D. A. L. O. T. T. A. J. A. R. G. O. N.,
but what do all those letters mean. I know what the
danish title mean, but that doesn't help.
Could anyone help me here, what about Don Rosa himself?
Anders Christian
(Email removed)
Ventnor
The Firebug and Notre Duck
Message 30 -
1998-08-03 at 16:28:04
With regard to the following comment that was made:
Someone on this list has been writing about the censored end of the story
>from OS 108 "The Firebug". The editors altered the last two panels because
>they felt that a Disney character could not be seen behind bars at the end
>of a story.
I'm not sure I see how Donald's being in jail would fit in with the story
(if it's the same "Firebug" story we're talking about!). In the one I'm
thinking of, it's the Benzene character who turns out to be copying all
Donald's strangely shaped fires on a large scale; consequently it is he who
is the criminal. And then Donald just wakes up - it was all a dream! How
does the alternative story run?
Re the censorship angle, it seems strange to me that something like "Notre
Duck" should not have been censored! After all, that's akin to saying the
Virgin Mary was a duck! (Maybe Jesus was a mouse....)
Any comments?
David King.
Someone on this list has been writing about the censored end of the story
>from OS 108 "The Firebug". The editors altered the last two panels because
>they felt that a Disney character could not be seen behind bars at the end
>of a story.
I'm not sure I see how Donald's being in jail would fit in with the story
(if it's the same "Firebug" story we're talking about!). In the one I'm
thinking of, it's the Benzene character who turns out to be copying all
Donald's strangely shaped fires on a large scale; consequently it is he who
is the criminal. And then Donald just wakes up - it was all a dream! How
does the alternative story run?
Re the censorship angle, it seems strange to me that something like "Notre
Duck" should not have been censored! After all, that's akin to saying the
Virgin Mary was a duck! (Maybe Jesus was a mouse....)
Any comments?
David King.