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DON ROSA (about Gyro Gearloose):
>>>>>>But he's white. So he's obviously supposed to be a cockatoo.
>
>I'm kidding around too much, and someone might take me literally. I KNOW
>Gyro Gearloose is not really supposed to be a cockatoo... Barks was just
>drawing him as a generic bird-face. I just don't know why people see him as
>a chicken.
I have always thought he was an eagle. I don't know where I got this idea
from, because he does not really look like an eagle. Perhaps I read it
somewhere.

FRANCOIS WILLOT:
>>I've been reading Disney comics since I was 3 and never stopped.
>
>Reading at 3? Maybe some stories with very few text. I think a 3
>years-old can hardly understand stories like "Paperino e i gamberi in
>salm=EC".
I could not read at 3, but my mother tells me that she used to read me
Disney comics, and one of my favourites then was "Zio Paperone e le
Lenticchie di Babilonia". I must take her word here, because I really don't
remember.
Hovever, I could read at 5, and I perfectly remember that my favourite
stories were "The golden fleece" by Barks and "Zio Paperone e la gara da
100 dollari" by Scarpa...

PAOLO CASTAGNO:
>When I was a child, like almost all of you, I learned to read on
>Disney Comics (and Disney books, too) and when I found something that
>was too hard to understand for a child, I was used to ask for
>explanations to my parents, and so to have the chance to learn
>something more... I remember of a story where Gyro was presenting his
>last invention and I was very disappointed by the fact that he
>wouldn't have made any other gadget (having "the lastinvention" in
>Italian the same meaning of "the newest invention"), when I was told
>about the real meaning of it, I learned something new: children need
>to be feed with as much informations as possible, so "the Mc Duck
>industries" don't cause any question from a child, while the "workers
>paradise" surely does!
I completely agree. That's exactly what I meant in one of my previuos
messages, but you've made it clearer. Thanks!

ABOUT SCROOGE'S celebrating his birthday with a 75 candle power lightbulb:
My theory is that Scrooge was indeed older than 75 at the time, but a more
powerful lightbulb would be too expensive!!! :)

Have a nice day you all,
Claudia

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MIKKO:

> I was aware of this probability but couldn't find my dictionary
>due to having just moved to a new apartment. Yet, I've always believed
>that the word 'hypocrite' came from 'Hippocrates'. Oh well, Aesopos I
>shouldn't use so many long words...

HIPPOKRATES: Composed of the two words "Ippos" ("Horse") and "Kratw" ("Hold").

HYPOCRITE: Composed of the two words "Ypo" ("Under") and "Kriths" ("Judge").
"Hypocrites" were called in Ancient Greece the actors in the plays that wore
masks during the play, and thus concealed their "true" identity; hence, the
eventual modern meaning of "hypocrite". Still, today in Greece, when
accolades are given to a great actor/actress, it's said that this person has
"great hypocritical ability", and they don't mean that he's a hypocrite,
just a great actor!

Sorry for the off-topic remarks.

Cheers,

Archontis

DAVID KING:

>My recent post to the mailing list made me want to re-read "The Phantom of
>Notre Duck", so I did so. It struck me what a pagan cathedral it is! All
>those sinister gargoyles of birds of prey, and a fresco showing a dragon
>being slaughtered....

Since when is it unusual to find pagan images in a cathedral of Christendom?
European churches, graveyards, and other religious structures are full of
images and icons that harken back to pagan deities or idols. The crucifix
itself is not of Christian origin, yet it is prominently displayed in just
about everything Christendom ever built.

Since most American kids would not be expected to know that Notre Dame is
French for "Our Lady," I can't imagine that the editors of Disney comics of
the early 60's were concerned about any offense to Catholics. As far as
that goes, Notre Duck would just mean "Our Duck" (if "duck" was both a
French and English word in the Duck universe), so where's the harm in that?
If people in our world can venerate a human, why can't people in Scrooge's
world worship a duck?

JUHANA:

> I have compiled info about Finnish Carl Barks stories with respect
> to CB listings found from DComics webpages. But I'm quite helpless in
> adding them to DComics database.

Adding index data to the Database can be done through me. Show me what
you have in private mail, and we can work it out!

> When I started to make my listing of the CB stories, I would
> have needed images of the first couple of panels. How about adding
> images of the first panels (or couple of first panels) to DComics
> database?

We have been thinking about that, but hesitating to implement it. One
important issue is copyright. Another issue is disk space.

--Harry.

Hello

FRANCOIS

I don't now if it's a real one. But in "the Golden River"
(US 22, november 1957), H, D or L is telling Scrooge
about the King
of the river. The picture of the king, that forms in
Scrooge's head, looks excactly as the King of the
24-carat Moon (US 24, january 1958), which must
be a reuse of an idea.
Just like the card HDL finds in the last panels of
"Luck of the North" (OS 256, june 1949). This
card-story-idea is used In the Golden Helmet-story
(OS 408, january 1952)
Of course these or just reuses, and I don't know if they
should be put on Halsten's list?

JUHANA
The story is wrong-coded in the danish album-
series with Carl Barks-stories too,
Maybe a mistake from when it was published here.
W WDC 294-01 10 64-09-17 DD
T:Duck Out Of Luck [app:GL,JW, JW hound,
my addition, but it's true!] us : BL10-635,LICW 50
w : WDC 294,WDC 413
nl : 67-03,86-03,BV.64,KV.16
se : 66-03,KAB 19
dk : AA66-04,BH 19
de : BL 50
And now: fi: AAP 18 :-)

BTW you can also see that it is a half-page splash-panel.
That was invented, in my knowing, by Barks (Is that correct,
anyone?), long before this story was published (in 1964)

Maybe it's just my computer (I will check that soon),
but the Database results don't seem to be shown in
HTML language. It's just a lot of strange looking letters
"><<'-" and so on. I wasn't actually looking for something,
but I just thought it was strange. Is there anyway to use it,
when it looks like that?
Harry or whoever is in charge, what's wrong?

Hello,

Francesco Spreafico (welcome on the list!) wrote:

> Well, I actually believed that the sardine rain was a real thing (as the name
> Tegucigalpa was; I had checked it out, and if that name, so strange, was true,
> then it all had to be). I even managed in convincing friends of mine it was
> true! :-) Mind you, I was three!

Hey, I was.. maybe 6 or 7, but I belived that sardines were raining on Tegucigalpa
too!

> PAOLO wrote:
> >Topolino 1523
>
> Does that mean you stopped buying them in '84, or you don't have the first
> hundreds 8-)

I have them all from issue #800 up to nowadays, and some other issues before that
one.

> >Paperino & C. 99 (does someone has #99 for sale?)
>
> Well, I would. But it's from a "collection"; you know, when they used to put three
> or four issues toghether. BTW, what's so great in that comic? I've already seen
> somewhere somebody looking for it, was that you?

Yes, maybe, it's a pretty long time I'm looking after it. It has nothing particular,
it's just the only one I'm missing.

> And how come you have 99 issues and need #99? Is there a #0 that I know not of?

There have been 100 issues...

> >Pippo e... 1
> "... il tempo", that's the title, isn't it? I've always wondered whether this
> was a one-shot, or if they actually released number two and three.
> BTW was the art by Diaz or not?

As far as I know it's a series of 4 issues: Pippo e il tempo, Pippo e il sonno,
Pippo e il denaro and Pippo e.. well, now I don't remember!

> Sorry for taking it so long, but it's really great to finally be able to ta. .
> er, write ;-) about these things with somebody!!

Well, then after all, I think you won't be a lurker!

Ciao,

- Paolo

Trying to catch up with the last few digests...

DONALD MARKSTEIN:
One interesting note on the BOB HOPE comics: at a time when DC specialized
in putting several stories into a single issue, these comics had issue-
long stories. At least, that is what is claimed in Les Daniels' history of
DC. I've never actually seen one of these stories -- is the claim correct?

When listing "personality-based" DC comics, don't forget to mention Jackie
Gleason. There were several Gleason-based DC titles, as I recall.

RICH BELLACERA, re KATIE's "Many Loves of Scrooge" page:
<<I have a suggestion. Since you seem to be presenting even those
women who have merely the *appearance* of a relationship with
$crooge, have you considered adding "Ma Beagle"? There was an
episode of DuckTales ("Status Seekers", I think? Mr. Barat will
probably know for sure) where Ma Beagle takes $croogie to court
and has the Judge (The Owl, btw) proclaim them MARRIED [Blashpemy!],
with that she intends to divorse him to take HALF of his wealth
with her (of course her plan backfires!). I'd say that a woman
who even provides "legal proof" of a relationship with $crooge
desrves a mention, at least.... What do you think? :-)>>

The episode was titled "The Bride Wore Stripes." And yes, I'd go along
with you and regard this as one of Scrooge's "loves" -- even though the
"love" in question was only a legal fiction!

ON GYRO'S HAIR (or wig, or whatever it is):
Another Duck character who seems to have bad hair days -- or days when his
hair is inconsistently portrayed -- is Launchpad McQuack. On several
occasions, he appears to have a full head of red hair, but more often, he
is depicted as having a red topknot, with the rest of his scalp being bald
(and covered by his flight helmet).

DAVID KING:
<<Re the censorship angle, it seems strange to me that something like "Notre
Duck" should not have been censored! After all, that's akin to saying the
Virgin Mary was a duck! (Maybe Jesus was a mouse....)>>

Well, I'm a Catholic, and this story's "offensiveness" quite simply didn't
occur to me. Perhaps it was the fact that Barks drew the Cathedral of
Notre Duck with no overtly religious or even quasi-religious symbols to be
seen anywhere. There's statuary, but nothing that resembles the sort of
stuff you'd see in an authentic Roman Catholic cathedral. As Barks drew it,
the "Cathedral" had more of the feel of an ancient secular building, a la
the castle of the "Mad Duke of Duckburg."

Of course, I always had trouble taking the idea of Gothic building in
Duckburg seriously, so perhaps I simply filed this away as an "imaginary
story" not worth getting riled over...

ON "OFFICER FOR A DAY" (in WDC&S 628):
I like this story quite a bit, and if you realize that it was Barks'
"response" to the end of the 1960's in the US (police riots, court
decisions and such), you can get even more out of it. Jippes did a
good job on the redraw -- though the computer lettering was, indeed,
CHEESY in the extreme.

ON SAN DIEGO:
I will be at the S.D. Comic Con from Thursday through Saturday. Hope to
see some of you there.

Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm