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Vidar Svendsen
DON ROSA
>From: Vidar Svendsen:
>>>>Does anybody know anything about the relationship
>between the Norwegian and the Danish comics?
>For how long has the "Norwegian Donald Duck" and
>the "Danish Anders And" been the same (except the language).
>
>I assume you knew that all Egmont branches are fed the same stories and
>covers, etc., each week and they decide how to use them. This resulted in
>the various Egmont issues all being very similar on a given week, though not
>exactly. But for about the last two years Egmont decided to consolidate
>operations and combine the Norwegian and Swedish editions under one
>editorial staff... and ........

Yes, I know that. I just wondered if anybody could inform me about
the relationship between the Scandinavian editions in the 60s, 70s or the 80s
(or even the 50s)
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven

And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
Oyvind J. Karstad
Don R.:

>>Is there a D.U.C.K. dedication on the drawing you did
>>for the latest Picsou (#319) with a scene from Cash Flow?! I have
>>been searching for it everywhere but I can't find it and I'm wondering
>>if there is one at all!
>
>I have *also* been searching!!!! I can't find one either, so I guess =
this is
>another of the times that I pencilled the "D.U.C.K." into the scene,=20
>that it was hidden so well that I failed to notice it while inking!

Well *I* found it...
It's in the money some centimetres below the Beagle boys' right oar.
It's hidden very well, the D, U and C are different coins, and the K is =
made of two coins.
I'm a trained D.U.C.K.-hunter, so it didn't take me long before i found =
it.

O/yvind
Fluks, H.W.
Don R.:

>> Oh, ofcourse I recall that story ... it's even somewhere in my top
>> 50 of favorite Rosa stories!!!!
> ??? Is that a joke? I mean, have I done more than 50 stories yet?

Up to the "Black Knight" story, you have done 59 stories, plus 1
script-only, 4 art-only, and 4 onepagers/twopagers. 68 in total.
I can think of a maximum of four of your stories that I dislike - so to
me it *is* possible to make a top-50 of favourite Rosa stories! 8-)

--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
David King:

> I take it Mark Evanier is a well-respected writer?

I haven't seen many of his stories, but the few that I've seen are very
good! To me he is one of the lights in the Dark Ages of USA Disney
comics (the Gold Key/Whitman period).

> I haven't abandoned the idea of an Australian Disney comics database,
> incidentally: it's just that I keep accumulating more Oz Disney, and I'd
> prefer to wait until I have a straight run of, say, 100 numbers before I
> start cataloguing. The whole process would become chaotic otherwise.

OK, that sounds good. Maybe we have to talk again about the layout of
the files you'll send me - 100 issues is a lot for manual conversion
into the DcD...

Juhana Kouhia:

> I have finished the first version of my Finnish CB story listing. It is
> available at "http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/cbs.txt" and typeset with
> TeX (but still readable as txt file).

I would indeed like to have this information in the Disney comics
Database (DcD). I'll tell you the details in private mail.

> To make a listing of all stories published in Finnish DD magazine
> would be a major job and I'm not going to do it myself alone. Any
> interest?

It would be great to have a Finnish "coordinator" (or "maintainer") that
can help me getting Finnish information in the DcD! That shouldn't be a
*very* hard job, BTW: the Finnish issues are often parallel to the
Danish/Swedish/Norwegian issues. So all the Finnish indexers have to do
is find the parallels, and fill in the Finnish titles (those long words
with lots of aaa's and uuu's in it).

All:

The DcD is getting bigger and bigger, and we can even start aiming for
*completeness*. Fortunately, I don't have to do the work all by myself.
We have "maintainers" for a few countries. These people not only make
indexes themselves, but they also coordinate the work of other indexers,
and check the already indexed stuff. And they make sure that the indexes
fit in the DcD. Currently, we have "maintainers" for the following
countries:

Denmark (Ole Reichstein Nielsen)
Germany (Brix Lichtenberg)
France (Francois Willot)
Italy (Paolo Castagno [+ Marco Barlotti])
The Netherlands (Harry Fluks)
USA (Harry Fluks - I like to do this myself!)

As you can see, no people for Norway, Sweden, Brazil, Australia,
Finland, etc. etc.
We *do* have an extensive index for Sweden, but it's not updated on a
regular basis.

Volunteers are welcome!

--Harry.
Vidar Svendsen
Claudia:

>>Will Gladstone reprint any of his stories (starting with DD 112: "A Whale of
>>an Adventure")? His early tales might take some flak in today's world for
>>depicting a whaler as the hero,
>I don't think Moby ever GOT or even hit a whale (of course this wound NEVER
>be allowed to be published); sometimes I've seen him shoot at them, but
>never hitting.

We spoke of this 2-3 years ago, and some fellow Norwegian said there
exists a story where Moby Duck actually hits a whale.

A Moby Duck story was printed Norway this summer. It wasn't my favourite
Moby Duck story though (there are many much better MB stories)
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven

And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
Hello
Well, Don won't have to tell where the Duck is in the cover for pm 319,
I found it, and it was easy, but you'll have to use a magnifiing glass, but

it's not in the hat, which would also have been too hard to find. The place

is as genuine a hideplace as any Duck-dedication (IMHO) Well, hint: what
is it that makes Scrooge a billionaire/cillionaire/well,
fantasticillionaire
(whatever?)?
Poul S. Frøkjær
Don Rosa wrote:
>He [Barks] won't join the List... but all that we say here is shown to =
him on print-outs by Gerry Tank.<

So we have a new lurker on the list???

- No, I wont ask questions. Just say hi to the new list member!

Welcome Unca Carl -VERY welcome....

- Poul Frokjar, Denmark
GsusLvsYa
please remove me from your mailing list. Thanks
Kfitz
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Speaking of mice, just received "The BIGGEST BIG Mickey Mouse in the mail
today. There are a couple of stories I either never read before or read
when I was very young and foolish and "The Seven Ghosts" I loved but it was
reprinted by Gladstone when I was still giving them away to friends'
children. Now I have no friends left (just kidding but their children are
now adults and no longer interested in such comics, but I bet they will
rediscover them at some point in their lives! Now also I am older and
foolish and looking forward to reading.

I love Gottfredson's Mickey and his adventurous Minnie as well as they are
fun loving and spirited. I enjoy both Ducks and Mice depending on my
reading mood and the artist. There is a Duck and a Mice artist reflecting
every type of reading mood I have ever been in and I think that is why it
is so hard to pick favorite stories.

I agree with Katie about those Terries and Fermies! Talk about fun loving
characters, they can bring the whole earth down let alone the house.

-Kathy
Daniel Van Eijmeren
JONATHAN MARKOFF to me, 21 August 1998:

>> In Carl Barks' 1950 story "The Magic Hourglass", the exact total amount
>> of Scrooge's money can be calculated from Scrooge's comment: "I can't
>> go on like this - losing a billion dollars a minute! I'll be *broke* in
>> 600 years!"

> This is obviously a gag as much as "ten fantasticatillion, skyrillion,
> and 16 cents". There isn't that much money in the world. Furthermore,
> as Don has said, this was an early story that contains many "facts"
> that aren't in sunc with "our" Scrooge, and should be regarded as
> "fictional fiction".

Your comment made me check the existance of this story in my Barks
collection immediately, but fortunately it's still there. :-) No, I
don't agree on the "fictional fiction" you mention. For me, either
*all* Barks-stories really happened or *none* of them happened at all.

The Magic Hourglass (and also Penny Wise) may not exist in Don Rosa's
universe and his timeline, but I don't think it's reasonable to put
aside these stories because of this descision (why would one?). Doing
this with a classic story like "Magic Hourglass" makes that even
worser IMO, since I think this is definitely the best one Barks did
while featuring *real* people. Like "Dangerous Disguise", it has a
very dangerous and frightfully realistic atmosphere, which IMO makes
it a classic *within* the classic area.

Even *if* Don Rosa's "Life and Times" (in contrary to its initial
intention) should be considered as the definitive one-and-nothing-else
Scrooge-history, I don't see problems btw. Like with his later "lucky
dime" it seems that Scrooge has a superstitious side in his character,
as more fortunate/famous people seem to have that with lucky charms
and/or heaven-on-earth-promising deceivers.

I think that even *with* magic hourglass, Scrooge would have gotten the
bad news about the big losses. Only, instead of blaming it on the
hourglass, he would have put the losses straight with his experience
and his strong personality.

Greetings,

--- Daniel - "A lake of *diamonds*!"
- "Nothing but old, hard, dry *diamonds*!"

(The Magic Hourglass, OS 291, 1950)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
DON MARKSTEIN to me, 25 August 1998:

> By the way, I just took another look at your "Carl Barks Guidebook" Web
> page. Amazingly enough, part of it STILL reads like it was taken
> verbatim from a press release sent out by the slimebags who made such a
> concerted and, for a time, effective attempt to control not just his
> business dealings, but also his relations with other members of the
> Disney Comics community. In view of Barks's own repudiation of those
> sleazeballs, why is that?

You mean the article on the Carl Barks Studio under "retirement years"?
As I told you in March this year, the information was taken from article
"Bill Grandey and Kathy Morby - Two Carl Barks fans who became part of
Duckburg", published in Disneyana Enthusiasts Club magazine "Magical
Moment & Memories" no. 12, 1996 (page 40).

The reason for this article being used there is that there was almost
no other up-to-date information on Barks then-current life and projects.
The information is meant as factual as possible and *certainly not*
intented as some kind of promotion. Trying to get a story and some
information out of that article was a *grind*, since it half of it
seemed to be cramped and overdosed with syruppy superlative praisings
directed to that "over-kind loveable fine prestine pair of human beings"
or whatever similar was said in the original.

At the moment I'm too busy preparing other chapters, like one about
changes in (American) reprints, to spend time on giving information
on Barks entire career, which would put the emphasis on those 5 years
straight. The Guidebook pages now only contain less than a few percent
of all the information I would like to include and this is one of the
things that happened to be included first, simply because it was
- at that time - what Carl Barks was doing "nowadays".

BUT, if you can make a better and/or more up-to-date article on Carl
Barks recent and current life, you're welcome. The only 'rule' I have
on that is that it's intended as factual as possible (opinion-pages may
also follow in the future, but will now mean too much work) and that
the sources are fully mentioned.

Greetings,

--- Daniel
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html

BTW. All my sources on the pages can be found by either following the
"credits"-link on the main page or the "credits for this chapter"-links
below each page.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
DON MARKSTEIN:

Now that I think of it, there is more information on/from the Carl Barks
Studio on the Guidebook pages. These are three of the interviews included
in the "interviews" chapter. At that point these were the only integral
English interviews I had, published in a pink booklet sent out by the
Carl Barks Studio.

The rumours on managers controlling/changing Barks' words makes me wonder
how much of these interviews are genuine and/or in context. The thought
that Barks himself may not even know about the final results nags me
heavily, something I started to realise after reading your letter and
while writing these letters as a reply.

I would be very grateful if you or someone else could advice me on this.
Maybe these interviews could be forwarded to Carl Barks for his judgement
on them? I'd of course rather have no English interviews on the Guidebook
pages at all, than ones which are not real.

Greetings,

--- Daniel
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
Daniel Van Eijmeren
(Thanks to all the people commenting on leap years!)

TRISTAN HAVELICK to me, 21 August 1998:

> As for the result of the equation; I imagine scrooge's weath flucuates
> a lot.. One day he may have 60,000,000 billion, but the next he may
> have 500,000,000 trillion. Who knows. Sufice it to say that Scroogey
> has way way way to much money.

That's exactly what I think. The only reason for me to find informative
facts and quotes on the Ducks and their world is simply the *fun* of it,
something like "What would be the answer if Barks' work was the only
genuine sacred view on the Duck universe?" For that reason, I get much
enjoyment out of great lists like Kriton's one on the identity of the
Beagle Boys and Vidar's religious events/references list.

But nescessarily *believing* in it as blindly the one and only sacred
truth... no. Having seen Monty Python's "Life of Brian" years ago
(which could be a view on fandom as much as religion), made me clear
how annoying that would be - most likely not in the least to the maker
himself.

Greetings,

--- Daniel
Kosarin
Lugwig is hidden sitting in a chair hiiden in the lower right corner in
one panel.
Nick Kosarin
Daniel Van Eijmeren
CHRISTIAN SIVEBAEK to me, 24 August 1998:

> Yeah, that's nice on your homepage: A guidebook, not quite yet, you
> mention the mailing list having talked about who Paul Bunyan was, why
> don't you just say it? I would like to know! Please... Tell who he was
> I'm curious to read the story in it's full length sometime.

Don Markstein has already told you who Paul Bunyan is, but the reason why
I only noted that he was mentioned on the list in the past, is that I
still haven't had the time to look it up (must be somewhere in 1994).
There are far more facts like that on my hard-disk here, begging to get
out, but the only factor on their inclusion will be... time.

(Who used the quote here that time comes in scant supplies while we're
running out of it fast? I agree! I agree!)

BTW. Please stop apologizing for your opinion.

Greetings,

--- Daniel
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
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