Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen
>>Could some Italian help me with a story code?
>
>I don't understand why so many people seem to have trouble
>with finding information in the ddb - most of it should be
>there. Are you perhaps using Per's interface, which is always
>at least a version behind? Then try and download the source
>files from ftp, and search the files "manually".
That's what I've done :-(
I'm downloading the new version now (while writing this), only had
an old one.
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several digests
Message 181 -
1998-08-10 at 23:06:25
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Disney comics Digest V98 #192
Message 182 -
1998-08-10 at 23:11:52
OLE:
[discusses how the new CB&Co. fanzine is about
non-Disney comics and discusses Disney comics' own decay,
and then...]
>These would have been justifiable arguments ten years ago,
>but in recent years the Egmont stories have improved most
>dramatically. So where are the articles on the new Mickey?
>The new artists? The doubling of pages in the weekly?
Speaking for both myself and friends at Egmont, thanks for the
praise. But (speaking only for myself, starting here!) it's a funny
thing. A lot of comics fans, great hobbyists and scholars that they
often are, seem to be in the game to focus on nostalgia. Nothing wrong
with that, but part of nostalgia is the inherent proclamation that the
past is better than the present. Maybe it's easier to uphold that
attitude when you don't look at the present product, so a lot of fans
don't - in the case of both Disney and non-Disney comics. It's easy to
say "Anders And & Co. is a disappointment" when you follow it with
"yeah, I haven't bought Anders And regularly since 1986".
Such an attitude can kill fandom. It's hurting fandom for *all
kinds* of comics in the US, and I'm afraid it affects Disney fandom in
Europe, too.
IMHO, the current Egmont stories (and the current Dutch stories,
and the current French and Italian stories) deserve some study and
coverage in fanzines and journals. Some exciting duck and mouse epics
are lurking on the horizon at Egmont - probably at GP and Disney Italy
too.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
[discusses how the new CB&Co. fanzine is about
non-Disney comics and discusses Disney comics' own decay,
and then...]
>These would have been justifiable arguments ten years ago,
>but in recent years the Egmont stories have improved most
>dramatically. So where are the articles on the new Mickey?
>The new artists? The doubling of pages in the weekly?
Speaking for both myself and friends at Egmont, thanks for the
praise. But (speaking only for myself, starting here!) it's a funny
thing. A lot of comics fans, great hobbyists and scholars that they
often are, seem to be in the game to focus on nostalgia. Nothing wrong
with that, but part of nostalgia is the inherent proclamation that the
past is better than the present. Maybe it's easier to uphold that
attitude when you don't look at the present product, so a lot of fans
don't - in the case of both Disney and non-Disney comics. It's easy to
say "Anders And & Co. is a disappointment" when you follow it with
"yeah, I haven't bought Anders And regularly since 1986".
Such an attitude can kill fandom. It's hurting fandom for *all
kinds* of comics in the US, and I'm afraid it affects Disney fandom in
Europe, too.
IMHO, the current Egmont stories (and the current Dutch stories,
and the current French and Italian stories) deserve some study and
coverage in fanzines and journals. Some exciting duck and mouse epics
are lurking on the horizon at Egmont - probably at GP and Disney Italy
too.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V98 #191
Message 183 -
1998-08-10 at 23:33:57
ARCHONTIS:
Re: HIPPOCRATES vs. HYPOCRITE
Your reply summarized the things I wanted to say much better than I did in my
reply, so into the trash basket with the latter!
> HYPOCRITE: Composed of the two words "Ypo" ("Under") and "Kriths" ("Judge").
I might as well add that both "Kriths" (h = eta for those who are
confused) and my first name are derived from the same word. Thus,
"Kriton" is someone noted for their judgment!
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"One day I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must
be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs
and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine."
-----
Re: HIPPOCRATES vs. HYPOCRITE
Your reply summarized the things I wanted to say much better than I did in my
reply, so into the trash basket with the latter!
> HYPOCRITE: Composed of the two words "Ypo" ("Under") and "Kriths" ("Judge").
I might as well add that both "Kriths" (h = eta for those who are
confused) and my first name are derived from the same word. Thus,
"Kriton" is someone noted for their judgment!
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"One day I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must
be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs
and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine."
-----
Donald D. Markstein
Junkville Journal
Message 184 -
1998-08-11 at 00:31:55
SOEREN K. OLESEN --
>> "The idea that Duckburg only needs one genious, and
>> that being Gyro Gearloose, is simplistic. Gyro is a
>> technician, not a "knowledge guy" like Ludwig."
Do you know something I don't? I don't recall
Byron Erickson, the editor who decided which characters
are and are not available for use in Egmont stories,
saying that's why he made the decision to disallow
Ludwig. Personally, I have no idea why that particular
excision was made. The "only one genius" theory seems
unlikely, because whenever I, for one, need a genius in a
story, I simply make one up. Duckburg must be packed
solid by now with geniuses that were only used once.
But like I said, maybe you know something I don't.
The fact that I don't recall hearing Byron say something
doesn't mean he didn't say it.
JEFF BINGHAM --
Welcome to the group. No, we're not exclusively
Duck enthusiasts, tho Duck discussion does dominate, to
the point where it may seem that way sometimes. There was
a fair amount of talk a week or two back about Li'l Bad
Wolf, and I'm the resident Bucky Bug Buff. And at least
two of the regular contributors here write Mickey Mouse
for Egmont.
Somewhere or other, I have a list of U.S. reprints
of Gottfredson stories, that I made for my own use a year
or so back. If it would help you track them down, I could
find it and e-mail you a copy.
Quack, Don
>> "The idea that Duckburg only needs one genious, and
>> that being Gyro Gearloose, is simplistic. Gyro is a
>> technician, not a "knowledge guy" like Ludwig."
Do you know something I don't? I don't recall
Byron Erickson, the editor who decided which characters
are and are not available for use in Egmont stories,
saying that's why he made the decision to disallow
Ludwig. Personally, I have no idea why that particular
excision was made. The "only one genius" theory seems
unlikely, because whenever I, for one, need a genius in a
story, I simply make one up. Duckburg must be packed
solid by now with geniuses that were only used once.
But like I said, maybe you know something I don't.
The fact that I don't recall hearing Byron say something
doesn't mean he didn't say it.
JEFF BINGHAM --
Welcome to the group. No, we're not exclusively
Duck enthusiasts, tho Duck discussion does dominate, to
the point where it may seem that way sometimes. There was
a fair amount of talk a week or two back about Li'l Bad
Wolf, and I'm the resident Bucky Bug Buff. And at least
two of the regular contributors here write Mickey Mouse
for Egmont.
Somewhere or other, I have a list of U.S. reprints
of Gottfredson stories, that I made for my own use a year
or so back. If it would help you track them down, I could
find it and e-mail you a copy.
Quack, Don
Claudio Eckert
Booneheads #190 + Database problem
Message 185 -
1998-08-11 at 00:43:14
Mike:
<<One story that comes to mind was Donald trying to prove to HD&L that he=
really was accepted to the Booneheads by trying to enter a memorial
camping of the old Booneheads only to be discovered as the fail-out of th=
e
group. I think he then rescues some high-ranking Boonie and is made an
honorary Boonehead.>>
I remember this one. It's Nr. D6350, published in "Micky Maus" 48/1982. B=
ut it's about Donald as a member of the old *Junior Woodchucks* in the ge=
rman translation. (What is unusal, because the the Booneheads were often =
used in Germany, too)
Harry:
I wanted to look up the story in the database, but wenn I enter the code =
and press the "search" button, my Netscape Browser wants to dowload a Fil=
e "findstory.pl". Can you help?
- Claudio=
<<One story that comes to mind was Donald trying to prove to HD&L that he=
really was accepted to the Booneheads by trying to enter a memorial
camping of the old Booneheads only to be discovered as the fail-out of th=
e
group. I think he then rescues some high-ranking Boonie and is made an
honorary Boonehead.>>
I remember this one. It's Nr. D6350, published in "Micky Maus" 48/1982. B=
ut it's about Donald as a member of the old *Junior Woodchucks* in the ge=
rman translation. (What is unusal, because the the Booneheads were often =
used in Germany, too)
Harry:
I wanted to look up the story in the database, but wenn I enter the code =
and press the "search" button, my Netscape Browser wants to dowload a Fil=
e "findstory.pl". Can you help?
- Claudio=
Don Rosa
Digest #192
Message 186 -
1998-08-11 at 00:45:52
From David King:
>>>Hmm... I'm not sure what point you're making here.
I'm not saying I believe "The Phantom of Notre Duck" *should* have been
censored; I'm just surprised that it wasn't.
??? Reread my message and tell me which words you didn't understand. My
point was pretty simple -- there *was no* reference to religion or Catholic
churches in Barks' "Phantom of Notre Duck", so I don't know what bit of that
story you would think *could* be censored. The building was obviously NOT a
church... it seemed to be a museum that occupied a building that
resembles old church architecture. This is frequently done with old closed
churches, turning them into museums or shops or restaurants. Is it
conceivable to you that for anyone, even Disney who censors
prunes-in-pockets out of stories, to want to censor architecture?
From Henning:
>>>Did you BTW know that in the Danish Lo$ book, you use the term
"annal fixation"? Quite proper for a book of 80 years of duck
history, and probably more fit for a children's book than the
spelling you've been known to use on this list.
What? They translated "anal retentive" into "anal fixation", having me say
that I am mesmerized by a-holes? That was nice of them! Maybe they had
simply never heard that English term before? I don't agree with the
pschologists' idea for the cause, but it's simply used as a catch-all term
for someone (like me, and I'm proud of it!) who is fascinated by details and
structure.
>>>>Have you had contact with the editors about a (Spirit) story, and
would you care to do one? That Eisner award would probably give
a little leverage in negotiating, and it's my impression that
the creators are given free hands.
Forget the Eisners... I've known Denis Kitchen for over 20 years... he once
told me that he would be happy to publish any comic that I would create
(though that offer's probably changed in the collapsing American comics
market). But I am simply not interested in that idea or the similar offers
I've gotten from Mike Richardson (Dark Horse), regardless of how much $$$
they offer or royalties that I would see for the first time in my life. If I
were interested in $, I wouldn't be involved in Disney comics. The way I
look at it, any "Spirit" story I might do would mean one *less* Duck story
I'll ever get done... and that's what I love to do. (But I DO love the
Spirit -- I was one of the contributors to the "Spirit Jam" about 15 years
ago, when they invited dozens of artists to do one panel each to a new
Spirit tale... but that was back when Disney comics did not even exist in
America!)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #193
******************************************
>>>Hmm... I'm not sure what point you're making here.
I'm not saying I believe "The Phantom of Notre Duck" *should* have been
censored; I'm just surprised that it wasn't.
??? Reread my message and tell me which words you didn't understand. My
point was pretty simple -- there *was no* reference to religion or Catholic
churches in Barks' "Phantom of Notre Duck", so I don't know what bit of that
story you would think *could* be censored. The building was obviously NOT a
church... it seemed to be a museum that occupied a building that
resembles old church architecture. This is frequently done with old closed
churches, turning them into museums or shops or restaurants. Is it
conceivable to you that for anyone, even Disney who censors
prunes-in-pockets out of stories, to want to censor architecture?
From Henning:
>>>Did you BTW know that in the Danish Lo$ book, you use the term
"annal fixation"? Quite proper for a book of 80 years of duck
history, and probably more fit for a children's book than the
spelling you've been known to use on this list.
What? They translated "anal retentive" into "anal fixation", having me say
that I am mesmerized by a-holes? That was nice of them! Maybe they had
simply never heard that English term before? I don't agree with the
pschologists' idea for the cause, but it's simply used as a catch-all term
for someone (like me, and I'm proud of it!) who is fascinated by details and
structure.
>>>>Have you had contact with the editors about a (Spirit) story, and
would you care to do one? That Eisner award would probably give
a little leverage in negotiating, and it's my impression that
the creators are given free hands.
Forget the Eisners... I've known Denis Kitchen for over 20 years... he once
told me that he would be happy to publish any comic that I would create
(though that offer's probably changed in the collapsing American comics
market). But I am simply not interested in that idea or the similar offers
I've gotten from Mike Richardson (Dark Horse), regardless of how much $$$
they offer or royalties that I would see for the first time in my life. If I
were interested in $, I wouldn't be involved in Disney comics. The way I
look at it, any "Spirit" story I might do would mean one *less* Duck story
I'll ever get done... and that's what I love to do. (But I DO love the
Spirit -- I was one of the contributors to the "Spirit Jam" about 15 years
ago, when they invited dozens of artists to do one panel each to a new
Spirit tale... but that was back when Disney comics did not even exist in
America!)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #193
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Martin
Disney comics Digest V98 #191
Message 187 -
1998-08-11 at 01:00:56
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Assunto: Disney comics Digest V98 #191
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>Disney comics Digest Volume 98 : Issue 191
>
>Contents:
> Donald D. Markstein Junkville Journal
> Dirk Djuga Re: Wrong story as WDC 54?
> Jeff Bingham New kid on the block rambles on and on
> Kosarin Ducks hair wigs & feathers
> Don Rosa re: Digest #190
> Elon V. Brisola Gyro - chicken/human/?
> Claudia Rege Cambrin Various different subjects
> Gerstein, David DK - ECN RE: Disney comics Digests V98 #188-190
> Dr. Archontis Pantsios Of Horses and Hypos
> Per Starback Re: Disney Brunch
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 19:02:38 -0400
>From: "Donald D. Markstein" <(Email removed)>
>To: "INTERNET:(Email removed)" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Junkville Journal
>
>FRANCESCO SPREAFICO --
> You're reading through the entire archive before
> contributing regularly? Hey, this isn't an American
> superhero comic -- you don't have to memorize all the
> back issues to know what's going on.
>
>ETA BETA --
> "Springboard" is the initial step in writing a
> comics story. It's basically a short paragraph giving the
> basic idea of the story. When I said I was thinking of
> sending a few springboards to ELVIRA editor David
> Seidman, what I meant was I thought I might make a bid to
> write a few stories for the comic.
>
>DON ROSA --
> Oops! I misread your original "pre-'87" remark. I
> thought you meant there had never been ANY mention of the
> Little Booneheads before that, which is why I couldn't
> make sense of it since of course you would have to know
> there was. Now that I realize where I made my error in
> reading it, it makes perfect sense.
> I was never under an impression anybody except
> Barks had mentioned them in that period -- but since they
> form such a palpable part of the Duck back-story in my
> mind, I was sure Barks had used the term more than once.
> But if he did, I would expect you to know about it. Since
> you're so sure he didn't, it's not worth my while to look
> for a second mention that probably isn't there. I did go
> so far as to check out the one where they compete with
> the Little Chickadees to build a bridge, but came up
> blank. So -- I give up. Apparently, there is only one
> mention of the Little Booneheads in the Barks Canon.
>
>ALL COLLECTORS --
> One of the drawbacks to freelancing is that no
> matter how well you plan, there occasionally appear
> annoying little gaps in your income. One such is
> happening to me right now -- it appears some money I've
> been expecting will not be here in time for me to pay
> some rather urgent bills. So I'm forced to sell off a few
> choice items from my collection.
> The sale is being held on eBay, the on-line
> auction house, which you can check out at
> http://www.ebay.com
> Look up the following item numbers: 24548591,
> 24548117, and 24547424.
> I regret that all three, together, are less than
> an inch thick, and therefore will do little to enhance
> your standing in the great face-off we've been having
> here recently. But -- here's your chance to add a few
> nice little Disney collectibles to your own hoard -- and
> at the same time, ease my mind by ensuring that they'll
> go to a good home.
> The auction will end about Thursday or Friday,
> depending, I guess, on your time zone.
>
>Quack, Don
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:54:39 +0200
>From: Dirk Djuga <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Wrong story as WDC 54?
>
>>Hello. In series Best of DD, in Finland, they published a story numbere>d
>>as "WDC 54" and claimed it is by Carl Barks. The story is listed in Fin>nish
>>section of Dcomics database: AAP 18, "Kiipeliä kerrakseen".
>
>The story code is wrong in German "Die tollsten Geschichten mit Donald
>Duck" #92, too, but correct in the database:
>W/WDC 294-01 "Duck Out Of Luck".
>
>But - do you fail to recognize a CB story just because it has the wrong
>number ? ;o)
>
>>The story should be replaced by better even it is by CB, >>IMHO.
>
>Huh? It is not that bad. It is so typical for a 60's Barks story to make
>fun of "modern art". BTW now it appears to me that I have seen other
>instances where cousin Gladstone was a bohemian painter. Was this in a
>Barks story also ?
>
>>You may take a look at the first page at "http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/
>>wdc54.jpg".
>>PPS. When I started to make my listing of the CB stories, I would
>>have needed images of the first couple of panels. How about adding
>>images of the first panels (or couple of first panels) to DComics
>>database?
>
>I would welcome this also. Only by seeing your scan I could find out
>what story you meant. But then I fear there are copyrigt issues...
>
>--
>DD mailto:(Email removed)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 18:08:04 -0600
>From: Jeff Bingham <(Email removed)>
>To: Comics list <(Email removed)>
>Subject: New kid on the block rambles on and on
>
>I have just recently subscribed to both this "digest" and the great
>internet. Being completely green about the people on this list,
>discussions, and the internet experience in general I hope that I do not
>sound too obtuse when writing my piece.
> I am 16 yrs. old and have been quite lucky as a teenager in the
>literary realm of comic books because not only have I had a subscription
>to Gladstone comics since their inception but my father also collected
>comic books as a boy giving me a library of comics that graced virtually
>all of Carl Barks' work.
> Many people have drawn the ducks, but the most pleasing well
>balanced drawing always seemed to be from Carl Barks. I suppose this is
>nothing new to be totally gaga over Barks' great works, but I believe
>firmly that the reason why Barks is so notably famous is not for the
>art-work in itself but because of the intertwining of the interesting
>plot into the drawing.
>
> Perhaps this is not the place, for this appears to be mainly an all
>duck discussion, but I would like to know if there is a possibility to
>acquire Gottfriedson mickey stories, any foreign publications, dusty
>vaults of old comics, etc.?
>
> I have finally stopped my subscription to Gladstone comics, but I
>would very much like to buy back issues with stories in them that I do
>not have, particularly the new Don Rosa stories. Does anyone have a list
>of Rosa stories with issue numbers from last year to the present?
>
> Also a small complaint, to see if anyone agrees with me. Being a
>Ludite at heart and born fully equipped to handle the eighteenth century
>only to find I'm way too late, I object to the computer drawn lettering
>in the new issues. The lettering seems to violently clash with soft
>curves of the hand drawn figures. Does it take too much time to add in
>hand lettering? I see it as spending the time to create a statue but
>leave off the nose. I have grown up in my own little artist's world
>being the son of a sign painter and my eye for the way art should be has
>been thusly formed. So what is the reason if any and why don't they want
>to do it my way?
>
> A final question. Do we know if $crooge still takes his memory
>medicine from Back to the Klondike? In fact what medicine does $crooge
>take? Let's face it he's an old duck!
>
>----Jeff Bingham
> Blackfoot, Idaho USA
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:42:45 +0200
>From: Kosarin <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Ducks hair wigs & feathers
>
>It seems simple... sometimes. Some do have real hair including before
>wigs were invented. A hair growing formula probably would work
>normally. The question is when they'd naturally grow hair or just
>feathers. I think it's genetic.
>
> THE PHANTOM BLOT ANIMATED
>He was in 'All Ducks on Deck'. I don't have any Agent X comics but this
>shows Plubber was at one of them at least.
>
> Nick Kosarin
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:40:39 -0400
>From: "Don Rosa" <(Email removed)>
>To: "Disney comics ML" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: re: Digest #190
>
>From: Claudio Eckert
>>>>>>>>>>"On stolen Time":
>Why don't the Beagle Boys use the time-clock again, when Donald and the
>kids are running towards them over the "frozed" Water and just let them
>fall into it? While writing this, I think, perhaps they are just a litte >to dumb? Or discovered the Ducks a bit to late?
>
>Yes, I don't know if it was made clear in whatever translation you read,
but
>the *whole point* of the Ducks taking a short cut across the water was to
>keep them within the zone in which they would not be affected by the watch.
>As I recall that story, the Beagles had stopped and were about to click the
>Ducks into frozen time, but they then saw that the Ducks had taken that
>short cut and they were still too close. Yes, maybe they still could have
>clicked and made the Ducks fall into the un-frozen water, then maybe gotten
>some distance on them while they were in the drink before clicking the
watch
>again and freezing the Ducks with everything else -- but the Ducks were
>close enough to the shore to be able to leap the remaining distance even if
>the water liquified. If that wasn't sufficiently explained even in my
>original script, you can attribute it to my limited page count and *very*
>tiny 1/8-page panel size.
>
>From David King:
>>>>>>Subject: More Notre Duck
>My recent post to the mailing list made me want to re-read "The Phantom of
>Notre Duck", so I did so. It struck me what a pagan cathedral it is! All
>those sinister gargoyles of birds of prey, and a fresco showing a dragon
>being slaughtered.... Putting that together with my earlier observation
that
>the words "Notre Duck" lampoon the Virgin Mary, it's really strange that
the
>story wasn't censored! Incidentally, does anyone know of any other
instances
>where religion is alluded to? To my knowledge, this is the only one.
>
>You seem to be contradicting yourself here. As you just saw when you reread
>the story, there is absolutely NO reference to religion in there. There are
>no crosses evident in this "Notre Duck" building... no religious symbols or
>references whatsoever... and it seems to be simply a museum of some sort.
>The name is translated as "Our Duck", which may not make sense, but still
>does not specify the building as a Catholic church even if we know what the
>gag-reference is to. It is called a "cathedral", but a cathedral is defined
>as a large building housing the seat of a regional organization...
*usually*
>a term referring to a Church where a catholic bishop is stationed... but
not
>absolutely necessarilly. So there was nothing in this story to censor since
>there was (as you yourself note) no mention of any religion. My guess is
>that Barks simply wanted a story with a catchy title... one that combined
>two of the snappiest movie titles of his younger days... "The Phantom of
the
>Opera" and "The Hunchback of Notre Dame".
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:01:15 -0300
>From: "Elon V. Brisola" <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Gyro - chicken/human/?
>
>Sorry if this is a duplicate message.
>
>From Eric Chun:
>>>>>Carl Barks (who created Gyro) said that Gyro is a chicken.
>And Don Rosa:
>> No, I see Gyro as just a Barks-bird-face-guy. And a
>> human.
>
>Gyro is called "Professor Pardal" here in Brazil. A "pardal" is a
>sparrow! Now what was that first translator thinking??
>
>Me, I think Gyro is a dodo bird.
>
>Elon.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:16:46 +0200
>From: (Email removed) (Claudia Rege Cambrin)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Various different subjects
>
>DON ROSA (about Gyro Gearloose):
>>>>>>>But he's white. So he's obviously supposed to be a cockatoo.
>>
>>I'm kidding around too much, and someone might take me literally. I KNOW
>>Gyro Gearloose is not really supposed to be a cockatoo... Barks was just
>>drawing him as a generic bird-face. I just don't know why people see him
as
>>a chicken.
>I have always thought he was an eagle. I don't know where I got this idea
>from, because he does not really look like an eagle. Perhaps I read it
>somewhere.
>
>
>FRANCOIS WILLOT:
>>>I've been reading Disney comics since I was 3 and never stopped.
>>
>>Reading at 3? Maybe some stories with very few text. I think a 3
>>years-old can hardly understand stories like "Paperino e i gamberi in
>>salmì".
>I could not read at 3, but my mother tells me that she used to read me
>Disney comics, and one of my favourites then was "Zio Paperone e le
>Lenticchie di Babilonia". I must take her word here, because I really don't
>remember.
>Hovever, I could read at 5, and I perfectly remember that my favourite
>stories were "The golden fleece" by Barks and "Zio Paperone e la gara da
>100 dollari" by Scarpa...
>
>PAOLO CASTAGNO:
>>When I was a child, like almost all of you, I learned to read on
>>Disney Comics (and Disney books, too) and when I found something that
>>was too hard to understand for a child, I was used to ask for
>>explanations to my parents, and so to have the chance to learn
>>something more... I remember of a story where Gyro was presenting his
>>last invention and I was very disappointed by the fact that he
>>wouldn't have made any other gadget (having "the lastinvention" in
>>Italian the same meaning of "the newest invention"), when I was told
>>about the real meaning of it, I learned something new: children need
>>to be feed with as much informations as possible, so "the Mc Duck
>>industries" don't cause any question from a child, while the "workers
>>paradise" surely does!
>I completely agree. That's exactly what I meant in one of my previuos
>messages, but you've made it clearer. Thanks!
>
>
>ABOUT SCROOGE'S celebrating his birthday with a 75 candle power lightbulb:
>My theory is that Scrooge was indeed older than 75 at the time, but a more
>powerful lightbulb would be too expensive!!! :)
>
>Have a nice day you all,
>Claudia
>
> (((( --------------------------------------------------
>jgs { '> Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs.
> / ,\ --------------------------------------------------
> / / / Claudia Rege Cambrin ((Email removed))
>=//== Corso Nazionale 161, 19125 La Spezia (SP) - ITALY
> / --------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:09:52 +0200
>From: "Gerstein, David DK - ECN" <(Email removed)>
>To: "'(Email removed)'" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: RE: Disney comics Digests V98 #188-190
>
> STEFAN:
>>Hmm... so what gives? Are both "Sorte Slyngel" and "Sorte Klat" Danish
>names
>>for the same character, then, like Soeren suggests?
> Yep. The Phantom Blot was originally called Sorte Klat in
>Danish. Then the name was changed. Our earlier character name lists >here
>at Egmont (rather primitive affairs) say "Sorte Klat," but this has >been
>crossed out and the new name written in.
>
> KATIE:
> Regarding the abundance of vampire stories this month, it's
>something I can't explain. I wrote "Bats in the Belfry" and the >American
>dialogue for "Castle Rollingstein" about two years apart, included
>virtually identical bad puns on "Nosferatu" in both, and they got
>published on the same day!
> Glad you enjoyed "Bats in the Belfry," BTW, despite the fact
>that Ecks, Doublex, and Triplex aren't really your cup of tea.
>
> KATIE *AND* JONATHAN:
> But now that we're talking about WDC&S 628, I should make an
>important point known to everyone: the story "Fishing For Trouble,"
>drawn by Noel Van Horn, is also *written* by him! I had nothing to do
>with it; the story's script being credited to me was a typo, and that
>will be corrected in next month's WDC&S.
>
> JONATHAN specifically:
> I've done *lots* of Mickey adventure stories; it's just that
>I've usually done an equivalent number of gag stories. Gladstone's so
>far run two adventure stories ("Bats" and "Cavern in the Shifting
>Sands"), and two gag ones ("Mickey Mouse Against the World" and "The >Egg
>Collector"). So don't worry... I love the adventurous Mouse as much as
>you do, and you'll see more of him from me - soon.
> Re: Mickey being in a more Donald-like situation (or bogged down
>in too many chained gags), I honestly think I've been past that stage
>for a while. Editor Byron Erickson smartly whupped me into shape on >that
>long ago... as you may note, "The Egg Collector" - the extreme example >-
>was written in 1994. And as I noted above, "Fishing For Trouble" is an
>all-Noel creation.
>
> ANDERS:
>>"Reseeing the Golden Helmet" [amateur authors'
>>contest winner] artists were two boys from 8th grade
>>(14 years old)
> And now, ten years following that, one of them - Jesper Lund
>Madsen - is an in-house Egmont artist who has drawn a fair number of
>covers and other things for the Egmont weeklies. Holy success story!
>
> David Gerstein
> <(Email removed)>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:39:55 +0300
>From: "Dr. Archontis Pantsios" <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Of Horses and Hypos
>
>MIKKO:
>
>
>> I was aware of this probability but couldn't find my dictionary
>>due to having just moved to a new apartment. Yet, I've always believed
>>that the word 'hypocrite' came from 'Hippocrates'. Oh well, Aesopos I
>>shouldn't use so many long words...
>
>
>HIPPOKRATES: Composed of the two words "Ippos" ("Horse") and "Kratw"
("Hold").
>
>HYPOCRITE: Composed of the two words "Ypo" ("Under") and "Kriths"
("Judge").
>"Hypocrites" were called in Ancient Greece the actors in the plays that
wore
>masks during the play, and thus concealed their "true" identity; hence, the
>eventual modern meaning of "hypocrite". Still, today in Greece, when
>accolades are given to a great actor/actress, it's said that this person
has
>"great hypocritical ability", and they don't mean that he's a hypocrite,
>just a great actor!
>
>Sorry for the off-topic remarks.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Archontis
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:56:51 +0200
>From: Per Starback <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Cc: Dave Teh <(Email removed)>
>Cc: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Disney Brunch
>
>I got the following mail sent from Dave Teh, but signed Torsten Adair.
>(Both of them get copies of this. If any of you want to followup to
>the list you'll have to join the list first.)
>
>.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
>|
>. Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:18:32 -0400
>| From: Dave Teh <(Email removed)>
>. To: (Email removed), (Email removed)
>| Subject: Disney Brunch
>.
>| Hi! This is my yearly appearance here on the Disney List, which means
>. that once again, it's time for the Disney Brunch at the San Diego
>| Comic-Con (Or Comicon International, as it is now known).
>. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend this year, so instead, I'm
>| mailing an inflatable dummy to the Marriott Hotel, with detailed
>. instructions. (Just kidding! You'll have to use your imagination.)
>|
>. As in the past, the breakfast will be during the Sunday of the
>| convention, at 8 AM (although I hear the Con will be opening earlier
>. this year, so you may want to change that). I never made reservations
>| at the Marriott restaurant downstairs. Instead, we all met in the
>. lobby, and then found space at the restaurant.
>|
>. I don't subscribe to the list anymore, so if you have questions, please
>| reply to the address below. Also, since I won't be there, feel free to
>. talk amongst yourselves, and figure out what's best. I hope to make it
>| next year. I have only one request. I don't know if Heidi MacDonald
>. still lurks here, but could one of the Faithful please send her an
>| invite? She'll be there somewhere, most likely at the Friends of Lulu
>. booth.
>|
>. Bon Apetit!
>| Torsten Adair (Email removed) New York, NY, USA
>. (thanks for forwarding this to the list, Per! Keep up the good work!)
>|
>.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
>
>Torsten, so why don't you subscribe to the list? At least temporarily
>while you have something to say to the list or discuss with the list
>at large. That would certainly facilitate communication and avoid
>incidents like what happened last year, if I remember correctly, when
>there was discussion on the list on when and where to meet, and then
>suddenly came a message from the outside stating another time and
>place(?), so that there actually were two Disney comics breakfasts (I
>may remember this wrong). I don't think anything else is agreed on
>this year, but you wouldn't know that, would you?
>
>Also the message was delayed several days by trusting me to forward it
>instead of joining the list and sending it yourself. I hope the
>message still reaches those who will attend the SDCC in time, and that
>everyone who does have a good time there!
>
>--
>Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/>
> - Just a bit Grumpy -
>
>--------------------------------
>End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #191
>******************************************
>
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Data: Segunda-feira, 10 de Agosto de 1998 09:03
Assunto: Disney comics Digest V98 #191
>[To unsubscribe, send a message to <(Email removed)>
> with the subject "unsubscribe". To get help, send "help" instead.]
>
>Disney comics Digest Volume 98 : Issue 191
>
>Contents:
> Donald D. Markstein Junkville Journal
> Dirk Djuga Re: Wrong story as WDC 54?
> Jeff Bingham New kid on the block rambles on and on
> Kosarin Ducks hair wigs & feathers
> Don Rosa re: Digest #190
> Elon V. Brisola Gyro - chicken/human/?
> Claudia Rege Cambrin Various different subjects
> Gerstein, David DK - ECN RE: Disney comics Digests V98 #188-190
> Dr. Archontis Pantsios Of Horses and Hypos
> Per Starback Re: Disney Brunch
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 19:02:38 -0400
>From: "Donald D. Markstein" <(Email removed)>
>To: "INTERNET:(Email removed)" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Junkville Journal
>
>FRANCESCO SPREAFICO --
> You're reading through the entire archive before
> contributing regularly? Hey, this isn't an American
> superhero comic -- you don't have to memorize all the
> back issues to know what's going on.
>
>ETA BETA --
> "Springboard" is the initial step in writing a
> comics story. It's basically a short paragraph giving the
> basic idea of the story. When I said I was thinking of
> sending a few springboards to ELVIRA editor David
> Seidman, what I meant was I thought I might make a bid to
> write a few stories for the comic.
>
>DON ROSA --
> Oops! I misread your original "pre-'87" remark. I
> thought you meant there had never been ANY mention of the
> Little Booneheads before that, which is why I couldn't
> make sense of it since of course you would have to know
> there was. Now that I realize where I made my error in
> reading it, it makes perfect sense.
> I was never under an impression anybody except
> Barks had mentioned them in that period -- but since they
> form such a palpable part of the Duck back-story in my
> mind, I was sure Barks had used the term more than once.
> But if he did, I would expect you to know about it. Since
> you're so sure he didn't, it's not worth my while to look
> for a second mention that probably isn't there. I did go
> so far as to check out the one where they compete with
> the Little Chickadees to build a bridge, but came up
> blank. So -- I give up. Apparently, there is only one
> mention of the Little Booneheads in the Barks Canon.
>
>ALL COLLECTORS --
> One of the drawbacks to freelancing is that no
> matter how well you plan, there occasionally appear
> annoying little gaps in your income. One such is
> happening to me right now -- it appears some money I've
> been expecting will not be here in time for me to pay
> some rather urgent bills. So I'm forced to sell off a few
> choice items from my collection.
> The sale is being held on eBay, the on-line
> auction house, which you can check out at
> http://www.ebay.com
> Look up the following item numbers: 24548591,
> 24548117, and 24547424.
> I regret that all three, together, are less than
> an inch thick, and therefore will do little to enhance
> your standing in the great face-off we've been having
> here recently. But -- here's your chance to add a few
> nice little Disney collectibles to your own hoard -- and
> at the same time, ease my mind by ensuring that they'll
> go to a good home.
> The auction will end about Thursday or Friday,
> depending, I guess, on your time zone.
>
>Quack, Don
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:54:39 +0200
>From: Dirk Djuga <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Wrong story as WDC 54?
>
>>Hello. In series Best of DD, in Finland, they published a story numbere>d
>>as "WDC 54" and claimed it is by Carl Barks. The story is listed in Fin>nish
>>section of Dcomics database: AAP 18, "Kiipeliä kerrakseen".
>
>The story code is wrong in German "Die tollsten Geschichten mit Donald
>Duck" #92, too, but correct in the database:
>W/WDC 294-01 "Duck Out Of Luck".
>
>But - do you fail to recognize a CB story just because it has the wrong
>number ? ;o)
>
>>The story should be replaced by better even it is by CB, >>IMHO.
>
>Huh? It is not that bad. It is so typical for a 60's Barks story to make
>fun of "modern art". BTW now it appears to me that I have seen other
>instances where cousin Gladstone was a bohemian painter. Was this in a
>Barks story also ?
>
>>You may take a look at the first page at "http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/
>>wdc54.jpg".
>>PPS. When I started to make my listing of the CB stories, I would
>>have needed images of the first couple of panels. How about adding
>>images of the first panels (or couple of first panels) to DComics
>>database?
>
>I would welcome this also. Only by seeing your scan I could find out
>what story you meant. But then I fear there are copyrigt issues...
>
>--
>DD mailto:(Email removed)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 18:08:04 -0600
>From: Jeff Bingham <(Email removed)>
>To: Comics list <(Email removed)>
>Subject: New kid on the block rambles on and on
>
>I have just recently subscribed to both this "digest" and the great
>internet. Being completely green about the people on this list,
>discussions, and the internet experience in general I hope that I do not
>sound too obtuse when writing my piece.
> I am 16 yrs. old and have been quite lucky as a teenager in the
>literary realm of comic books because not only have I had a subscription
>to Gladstone comics since their inception but my father also collected
>comic books as a boy giving me a library of comics that graced virtually
>all of Carl Barks' work.
> Many people have drawn the ducks, but the most pleasing well
>balanced drawing always seemed to be from Carl Barks. I suppose this is
>nothing new to be totally gaga over Barks' great works, but I believe
>firmly that the reason why Barks is so notably famous is not for the
>art-work in itself but because of the intertwining of the interesting
>plot into the drawing.
>
> Perhaps this is not the place, for this appears to be mainly an all
>duck discussion, but I would like to know if there is a possibility to
>acquire Gottfriedson mickey stories, any foreign publications, dusty
>vaults of old comics, etc.?
>
> I have finally stopped my subscription to Gladstone comics, but I
>would very much like to buy back issues with stories in them that I do
>not have, particularly the new Don Rosa stories. Does anyone have a list
>of Rosa stories with issue numbers from last year to the present?
>
> Also a small complaint, to see if anyone agrees with me. Being a
>Ludite at heart and born fully equipped to handle the eighteenth century
>only to find I'm way too late, I object to the computer drawn lettering
>in the new issues. The lettering seems to violently clash with soft
>curves of the hand drawn figures. Does it take too much time to add in
>hand lettering? I see it as spending the time to create a statue but
>leave off the nose. I have grown up in my own little artist's world
>being the son of a sign painter and my eye for the way art should be has
>been thusly formed. So what is the reason if any and why don't they want
>to do it my way?
>
> A final question. Do we know if $crooge still takes his memory
>medicine from Back to the Klondike? In fact what medicine does $crooge
>take? Let's face it he's an old duck!
>
>----Jeff Bingham
> Blackfoot, Idaho USA
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 02:42:45 +0200
>From: Kosarin <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Ducks hair wigs & feathers
>
>It seems simple... sometimes. Some do have real hair including before
>wigs were invented. A hair growing formula probably would work
>normally. The question is when they'd naturally grow hair or just
>feathers. I think it's genetic.
>
> THE PHANTOM BLOT ANIMATED
>He was in 'All Ducks on Deck'. I don't have any Agent X comics but this
>shows Plubber was at one of them at least.
>
> Nick Kosarin
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:40:39 -0400
>From: "Don Rosa" <(Email removed)>
>To: "Disney comics ML" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: re: Digest #190
>
>From: Claudio Eckert
>>>>>>>>>>"On stolen Time":
>Why don't the Beagle Boys use the time-clock again, when Donald and the
>kids are running towards them over the "frozed" Water and just let them
>fall into it? While writing this, I think, perhaps they are just a litte >to dumb? Or discovered the Ducks a bit to late?
>
>Yes, I don't know if it was made clear in whatever translation you read,
but
>the *whole point* of the Ducks taking a short cut across the water was to
>keep them within the zone in which they would not be affected by the watch.
>As I recall that story, the Beagles had stopped and were about to click the
>Ducks into frozen time, but they then saw that the Ducks had taken that
>short cut and they were still too close. Yes, maybe they still could have
>clicked and made the Ducks fall into the un-frozen water, then maybe gotten
>some distance on them while they were in the drink before clicking the
watch
>again and freezing the Ducks with everything else -- but the Ducks were
>close enough to the shore to be able to leap the remaining distance even if
>the water liquified. If that wasn't sufficiently explained even in my
>original script, you can attribute it to my limited page count and *very*
>tiny 1/8-page panel size.
>
>From David King:
>>>>>>Subject: More Notre Duck
>My recent post to the mailing list made me want to re-read "The Phantom of
>Notre Duck", so I did so. It struck me what a pagan cathedral it is! All
>those sinister gargoyles of birds of prey, and a fresco showing a dragon
>being slaughtered.... Putting that together with my earlier observation
that
>the words "Notre Duck" lampoon the Virgin Mary, it's really strange that
the
>story wasn't censored! Incidentally, does anyone know of any other
instances
>where religion is alluded to? To my knowledge, this is the only one.
>
>You seem to be contradicting yourself here. As you just saw when you reread
>the story, there is absolutely NO reference to religion in there. There are
>no crosses evident in this "Notre Duck" building... no religious symbols or
>references whatsoever... and it seems to be simply a museum of some sort.
>The name is translated as "Our Duck", which may not make sense, but still
>does not specify the building as a Catholic church even if we know what the
>gag-reference is to. It is called a "cathedral", but a cathedral is defined
>as a large building housing the seat of a regional organization...
*usually*
>a term referring to a Church where a catholic bishop is stationed... but
not
>absolutely necessarilly. So there was nothing in this story to censor since
>there was (as you yourself note) no mention of any religion. My guess is
>that Barks simply wanted a story with a catchy title... one that combined
>two of the snappiest movie titles of his younger days... "The Phantom of
the
>Opera" and "The Hunchback of Notre Dame".
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:01:15 -0300
>From: "Elon V. Brisola" <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Gyro - chicken/human/?
>
>Sorry if this is a duplicate message.
>
>From Eric Chun:
>>>>>Carl Barks (who created Gyro) said that Gyro is a chicken.
>And Don Rosa:
>> No, I see Gyro as just a Barks-bird-face-guy. And a
>> human.
>
>Gyro is called "Professor Pardal" here in Brazil. A "pardal" is a
>sparrow! Now what was that first translator thinking??
>
>Me, I think Gyro is a dodo bird.
>
>Elon.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:16:46 +0200
>From: (Email removed) (Claudia Rege Cambrin)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Various different subjects
>
>DON ROSA (about Gyro Gearloose):
>>>>>>>But he's white. So he's obviously supposed to be a cockatoo.
>>
>>I'm kidding around too much, and someone might take me literally. I KNOW
>>Gyro Gearloose is not really supposed to be a cockatoo... Barks was just
>>drawing him as a generic bird-face. I just don't know why people see him
as
>>a chicken.
>I have always thought he was an eagle. I don't know where I got this idea
>from, because he does not really look like an eagle. Perhaps I read it
>somewhere.
>
>
>FRANCOIS WILLOT:
>>>I've been reading Disney comics since I was 3 and never stopped.
>>
>>Reading at 3? Maybe some stories with very few text. I think a 3
>>years-old can hardly understand stories like "Paperino e i gamberi in
>>salmì".
>I could not read at 3, but my mother tells me that she used to read me
>Disney comics, and one of my favourites then was "Zio Paperone e le
>Lenticchie di Babilonia". I must take her word here, because I really don't
>remember.
>Hovever, I could read at 5, and I perfectly remember that my favourite
>stories were "The golden fleece" by Barks and "Zio Paperone e la gara da
>100 dollari" by Scarpa...
>
>PAOLO CASTAGNO:
>>When I was a child, like almost all of you, I learned to read on
>>Disney Comics (and Disney books, too) and when I found something that
>>was too hard to understand for a child, I was used to ask for
>>explanations to my parents, and so to have the chance to learn
>>something more... I remember of a story where Gyro was presenting his
>>last invention and I was very disappointed by the fact that he
>>wouldn't have made any other gadget (having "the lastinvention" in
>>Italian the same meaning of "the newest invention"), when I was told
>>about the real meaning of it, I learned something new: children need
>>to be feed with as much informations as possible, so "the Mc Duck
>>industries" don't cause any question from a child, while the "workers
>>paradise" surely does!
>I completely agree. That's exactly what I meant in one of my previuos
>messages, but you've made it clearer. Thanks!
>
>
>ABOUT SCROOGE'S celebrating his birthday with a 75 candle power lightbulb:
>My theory is that Scrooge was indeed older than 75 at the time, but a more
>powerful lightbulb would be too expensive!!! :)
>
>Have a nice day you all,
>Claudia
>
> (((( --------------------------------------------------
>jgs { '> Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs.
> / ,\ --------------------------------------------------
> / / / Claudia Rege Cambrin ((Email removed))
>=//== Corso Nazionale 161, 19125 La Spezia (SP) - ITALY
> / --------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:09:52 +0200
>From: "Gerstein, David DK - ECN" <(Email removed)>
>To: "'(Email removed)'" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: RE: Disney comics Digests V98 #188-190
>
> STEFAN:
>>Hmm... so what gives? Are both "Sorte Slyngel" and "Sorte Klat" Danish
>names
>>for the same character, then, like Soeren suggests?
> Yep. The Phantom Blot was originally called Sorte Klat in
>Danish. Then the name was changed. Our earlier character name lists >here
>at Egmont (rather primitive affairs) say "Sorte Klat," but this has >been
>crossed out and the new name written in.
>
> KATIE:
> Regarding the abundance of vampire stories this month, it's
>something I can't explain. I wrote "Bats in the Belfry" and the >American
>dialogue for "Castle Rollingstein" about two years apart, included
>virtually identical bad puns on "Nosferatu" in both, and they got
>published on the same day!
> Glad you enjoyed "Bats in the Belfry," BTW, despite the fact
>that Ecks, Doublex, and Triplex aren't really your cup of tea.
>
> KATIE *AND* JONATHAN:
> But now that we're talking about WDC&S 628, I should make an
>important point known to everyone: the story "Fishing For Trouble,"
>drawn by Noel Van Horn, is also *written* by him! I had nothing to do
>with it; the story's script being credited to me was a typo, and that
>will be corrected in next month's WDC&S.
>
> JONATHAN specifically:
> I've done *lots* of Mickey adventure stories; it's just that
>I've usually done an equivalent number of gag stories. Gladstone's so
>far run two adventure stories ("Bats" and "Cavern in the Shifting
>Sands"), and two gag ones ("Mickey Mouse Against the World" and "The >Egg
>Collector"). So don't worry... I love the adventurous Mouse as much as
>you do, and you'll see more of him from me - soon.
> Re: Mickey being in a more Donald-like situation (or bogged down
>in too many chained gags), I honestly think I've been past that stage
>for a while. Editor Byron Erickson smartly whupped me into shape on >that
>long ago... as you may note, "The Egg Collector" - the extreme example >-
>was written in 1994. And as I noted above, "Fishing For Trouble" is an
>all-Noel creation.
>
> ANDERS:
>>"Reseeing the Golden Helmet" [amateur authors'
>>contest winner] artists were two boys from 8th grade
>>(14 years old)
> And now, ten years following that, one of them - Jesper Lund
>Madsen - is an in-house Egmont artist who has drawn a fair number of
>covers and other things for the Egmont weeklies. Holy success story!
>
> David Gerstein
> <(Email removed)>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:39:55 +0300
>From: "Dr. Archontis Pantsios" <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Of Horses and Hypos
>
>MIKKO:
>
>
>> I was aware of this probability but couldn't find my dictionary
>>due to having just moved to a new apartment. Yet, I've always believed
>>that the word 'hypocrite' came from 'Hippocrates'. Oh well, Aesopos I
>>shouldn't use so many long words...
>
>
>HIPPOKRATES: Composed of the two words "Ippos" ("Horse") and "Kratw"
("Hold").
>
>HYPOCRITE: Composed of the two words "Ypo" ("Under") and "Kriths"
("Judge").
>"Hypocrites" were called in Ancient Greece the actors in the plays that
wore
>masks during the play, and thus concealed their "true" identity; hence, the
>eventual modern meaning of "hypocrite". Still, today in Greece, when
>accolades are given to a great actor/actress, it's said that this person
has
>"great hypocritical ability", and they don't mean that he's a hypocrite,
>just a great actor!
>
>Sorry for the off-topic remarks.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Archontis
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: 10 Aug 1998 13:56:51 +0200
>From: Per Starback <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Cc: Dave Teh <(Email removed)>
>Cc: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Disney Brunch
>
>I got the following mail sent from Dave Teh, but signed Torsten Adair.
>(Both of them get copies of this. If any of you want to followup to
>the list you'll have to join the list first.)
>
>.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
>|
>. Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:18:32 -0400
>| From: Dave Teh <(Email removed)>
>. To: (Email removed), (Email removed)
>| Subject: Disney Brunch
>.
>| Hi! This is my yearly appearance here on the Disney List, which means
>. that once again, it's time for the Disney Brunch at the San Diego
>| Comic-Con (Or Comicon International, as it is now known).
>. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend this year, so instead, I'm
>| mailing an inflatable dummy to the Marriott Hotel, with detailed
>. instructions. (Just kidding! You'll have to use your imagination.)
>|
>. As in the past, the breakfast will be during the Sunday of the
>| convention, at 8 AM (although I hear the Con will be opening earlier
>. this year, so you may want to change that). I never made reservations
>| at the Marriott restaurant downstairs. Instead, we all met in the
>. lobby, and then found space at the restaurant.
>|
>. I don't subscribe to the list anymore, so if you have questions, please
>| reply to the address below. Also, since I won't be there, feel free to
>. talk amongst yourselves, and figure out what's best. I hope to make it
>| next year. I have only one request. I don't know if Heidi MacDonald
>. still lurks here, but could one of the Faithful please send her an
>| invite? She'll be there somewhere, most likely at the Friends of Lulu
>. booth.
>|
>. Bon Apetit!
>| Torsten Adair (Email removed) New York, NY, USA
>. (thanks for forwarding this to the list, Per! Keep up the good work!)
>|
>.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
>
>Torsten, so why don't you subscribe to the list? At least temporarily
>while you have something to say to the list or discuss with the list
>at large. That would certainly facilitate communication and avoid
>incidents like what happened last year, if I remember correctly, when
>there was discussion on the list on when and where to meet, and then
>suddenly came a message from the outside stating another time and
>place(?), so that there actually were two Disney comics breakfasts (I
>may remember this wrong). I don't think anything else is agreed on
>this year, but you wouldn't know that, would you?
>
>Also the message was delayed several days by trusting me to forward it
>instead of joining the list and sending it yourself. I hope the
>message still reaches those who will attend the SDCC in time, and that
>everyone who does have a good time there!
>
>--
>Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/>
> - Just a bit Grumpy -
>
>--------------------------------
>End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #191
>******************************************
>
Katie Sullivan
Be careful what you wish for...
Message 188 -
1998-08-11 at 02:37:06
The day before yesterday I complained that I didn't get any e-mail. Now
my e-mail box is so full I'm overwhelmed! So I have to comment on the
last four digests all at once. If someone asked me a question that I
don't answer, re-ask it, because it got lost amid all the other stuff.
Sorry!
Don Rosa wrote:
>> This is frequently done with old closed churches, turning them into
museums or shops or restaurants.
I can attest to that. In my town alone, there are two old churches
being put to use. One is a novelty and gifts shop, and the other is a
bar (tavern)!!! A bit of a change of pace, wouldn't you say?
Regarding Notre Duck, I don't remember any relgious themes, either
obvious or veiled. I guess I just thought it was old cathedral.
Although an old European-style cathedral did look rather out-of-place in
Calisota, IMHO! I guess, being a Christian (Lutheran, to be precise), I
never minded such tones.
Regarding my "Scroogette" page...
It is currently linked only from the "Downtown Duckburg" section of my
page at http://fly.to/duckburg . I'll make the link more obvious
later. Which brings up another point I wish to make. I have been
having HUGE problems uploading new files to Fortunecity for the last 3
days. When (if???) the problem clears up, there will be new art, and,
hopefully, additions to the Many Loves of Scrooge page.
Does anyone have any more information on Belle Duck? Bella Quack? I
have pictures, but no biographical detail. Is she from Duckburg, or
somewhere else? Fill me in, please!
Also, I suppose I'll have to include Ma Beagle (shudder) on the page.
Ack!
And a HUGE THANKS to those of you who have sent me scans to help with
this project. You know who you are. :-)
I remember from scanning the digests that there are a few new members to
the list, so...welcome! Another youngster, like me! (I'm 18).
Also, someone mentioned being from Minnesota. Hi, neighbor! I'm just
over the border in Wisconsin! :-)
Regarding Scrooge's age, I like to think of him as sort of timeless. I
mean, he IS a fictional character, after all. So pinning dates on him
doesn't seem that important, to me. I mean, I like to know when events
in his life took place, especially in relation to other events, but
exact dates of 18__ or 19__ aren't essential. Sort of. I don't know
what I'm saying. I'm rambling! Aah! Seriously, though, in the
Fountain of Youth DuckTales episode, $crooge said "You're only as young
as you feel." And from what I've seen of Scrooge, riding glaciers
through the rapids, falling off cliffs, trekking through jungles,
climbing ropes, poking around in ancient ruins half a world away...
He's plenty young! :-)
Anyway, before I ramble too badly, I'll end this message! Perhaps NOW I
can get my new files uploaded. ARG! Sometimes computers are a pain in
the annal region (deliberate misspelling that, frankly, Don, I think is
funny! ;-)
Ciao!
Katie Quackfaster
my e-mail box is so full I'm overwhelmed! So I have to comment on the
last four digests all at once. If someone asked me a question that I
don't answer, re-ask it, because it got lost amid all the other stuff.
Sorry!
Don Rosa wrote:
>> This is frequently done with old closed churches, turning them into
museums or shops or restaurants.
I can attest to that. In my town alone, there are two old churches
being put to use. One is a novelty and gifts shop, and the other is a
bar (tavern)!!! A bit of a change of pace, wouldn't you say?
Regarding Notre Duck, I don't remember any relgious themes, either
obvious or veiled. I guess I just thought it was old cathedral.
Although an old European-style cathedral did look rather out-of-place in
Calisota, IMHO! I guess, being a Christian (Lutheran, to be precise), I
never minded such tones.
Regarding my "Scroogette" page...
It is currently linked only from the "Downtown Duckburg" section of my
page at http://fly.to/duckburg . I'll make the link more obvious
later. Which brings up another point I wish to make. I have been
having HUGE problems uploading new files to Fortunecity for the last 3
days. When (if???) the problem clears up, there will be new art, and,
hopefully, additions to the Many Loves of Scrooge page.
Does anyone have any more information on Belle Duck? Bella Quack? I
have pictures, but no biographical detail. Is she from Duckburg, or
somewhere else? Fill me in, please!
Also, I suppose I'll have to include Ma Beagle (shudder) on the page.
Ack!
And a HUGE THANKS to those of you who have sent me scans to help with
this project. You know who you are. :-)
I remember from scanning the digests that there are a few new members to
the list, so...welcome! Another youngster, like me! (I'm 18).
Also, someone mentioned being from Minnesota. Hi, neighbor! I'm just
over the border in Wisconsin! :-)
Regarding Scrooge's age, I like to think of him as sort of timeless. I
mean, he IS a fictional character, after all. So pinning dates on him
doesn't seem that important, to me. I mean, I like to know when events
in his life took place, especially in relation to other events, but
exact dates of 18__ or 19__ aren't essential. Sort of. I don't know
what I'm saying. I'm rambling! Aah! Seriously, though, in the
Fountain of Youth DuckTales episode, $crooge said "You're only as young
as you feel." And from what I've seen of Scrooge, riding glaciers
through the rapids, falling off cliffs, trekking through jungles,
climbing ropes, poking around in ancient ruins half a world away...
He's plenty young! :-)
Anyway, before I ramble too badly, I'll end this message! Perhaps NOW I
can get my new files uploaded. ARG! Sometimes computers are a pain in
the annal region (deliberate misspelling that, frankly, Don, I think is
funny! ;-)
Ciao!
Katie Quackfaster
SRoweCanoe
Bob Hope and Jack Bradbury and Me
Message 189 -
1998-08-11 at 04:17:50
Hi there, it's been a long time since I posted; anybody miss me? :)
An unfortunate and unexpected change in lifestyle knocked the wind out of my
sails back 5 weeks ago, and this is like the 2nd public posting that I've done
in that time.
All my comics and research material are in a storage locker, so the following
is from memory...
Bob Hope comics. Yes, the Bob Hope comics were usually 24pp stories (the
early issues longer). I hear that Howie Post drew the first few, but I can't
say for sure; but from about #10 to the early 1960s, the stories were done by
the West coast team of Cal Howard and Owen Fitzgerald. I was surprised to see
that Fitzgerald never did any Disney comics (to my knowledge); they were
replaced by Larry Nadle and Mort Drucker, then later by Arnold Drake and Bob
Oksner, and then Arnold Drake and Neal Adams. These are very enjoyable
comics, the Howard issues focus on the Hope of the movies, the girl chasing
never-do-well, while the Nadle issues introduced non-movie supporting
character (a talking dog); and the Drake issues began to feature a super-hero
"Super-Hip" which I always got a kick out of...
Jack Bradbury was an animator who started moonlighting comics at the Sangopr
Shop in 1943 or so, doing comics for ACG, Better-Standard-Pines, and DC. When
the Sangor Shop closed down in circa 1950, he switched to Western-Whitman
(Dell). Where he did a wide assortment of strips, and lots of Disney's. In
1960 or so, he switched over to mainly the overseas Disney comics production,
and mostly writing. (I have some stories I think he drew for Western in c1968
but apparently penciled only.) The last story he wrote was for Ace comics in
the middle 1980s, a revival of
Spencer Spook (which he had done for Sangor for ACG about 40 years earlier).
He is still alive, although I understand that he is completely blind. I have
had very long chats with Jim Scaranelli of Gasoline Alley comic strip about
Bradbury, and tickled to say that I led Jim to contact him. Both Jim and R.C.
Harvey collect Bradbury's great Spunky Junior Cowboy (I have every issue and
all of the Stanley stories from the 1940s).
Obviously Bradbury's style is vastly different from the style used by Barks
and the Barks imitators, but I think it's a good solid work...
Steven Rowe
An unfortunate and unexpected change in lifestyle knocked the wind out of my
sails back 5 weeks ago, and this is like the 2nd public posting that I've done
in that time.
All my comics and research material are in a storage locker, so the following
is from memory...
Bob Hope comics. Yes, the Bob Hope comics were usually 24pp stories (the
early issues longer). I hear that Howie Post drew the first few, but I can't
say for sure; but from about #10 to the early 1960s, the stories were done by
the West coast team of Cal Howard and Owen Fitzgerald. I was surprised to see
that Fitzgerald never did any Disney comics (to my knowledge); they were
replaced by Larry Nadle and Mort Drucker, then later by Arnold Drake and Bob
Oksner, and then Arnold Drake and Neal Adams. These are very enjoyable
comics, the Howard issues focus on the Hope of the movies, the girl chasing
never-do-well, while the Nadle issues introduced non-movie supporting
character (a talking dog); and the Drake issues began to feature a super-hero
"Super-Hip" which I always got a kick out of...
Jack Bradbury was an animator who started moonlighting comics at the Sangopr
Shop in 1943 or so, doing comics for ACG, Better-Standard-Pines, and DC. When
the Sangor Shop closed down in circa 1950, he switched to Western-Whitman
(Dell). Where he did a wide assortment of strips, and lots of Disney's. In
1960 or so, he switched over to mainly the overseas Disney comics production,
and mostly writing. (I have some stories I think he drew for Western in c1968
but apparently penciled only.) The last story he wrote was for Ace comics in
the middle 1980s, a revival of
Spencer Spook (which he had done for Sangor for ACG about 40 years earlier).
He is still alive, although I understand that he is completely blind. I have
had very long chats with Jim Scaranelli of Gasoline Alley comic strip about
Bradbury, and tickled to say that I led Jim to contact him. Both Jim and R.C.
Harvey collect Bradbury's great Spunky Junior Cowboy (I have every issue and
all of the Stanley stories from the 1940s).
Obviously Bradbury's style is vastly different from the style used by Barks
and the Barks imitators, but I think it's a good solid work...
Steven Rowe
Jeff Bingham
Donald in Ancient Persia
Message 190 -
1998-08-11 at 04:18:14
I have recently reread Donald Duck in ancient Persia and was
wondering about several things. Somewhere I heard that Barks' got the
idea for this story from a national geographic. If this is true would
someone tell me which national geographic and what article?
Donald D Markstein
If you would send me that list of reprints I would be forever
grateful. What I really hope to find are Gottfriedson's serials with
Thursday in them. I have come across portions of the story in original
comics, but I have not been able to find the whole story. I know they
haven't been reprinted in the USA in recent years because the are
definitely not PC.
Harry Fluks
Thank you for the info!
wondering about several things. Somewhere I heard that Barks' got the
idea for this story from a national geographic. If this is true would
someone tell me which national geographic and what article?
Donald D Markstein
If you would send me that list of reprints I would be forever
grateful. What I really hope to find are Gottfriedson's serials with
Thursday in them. I have come across portions of the story in original
comics, but I have not been able to find the whole story. I know they
haven't been reprinted in the USA in recent years because the are
definitely not PC.
Harry Fluks
Thank you for the info!
Katie Sullivan
Finally!
Message 191 -
1998-08-11 at 04:18:25
AT last, Fortunecity uploaded my new files! So, without further ado,
here's new art by Miss Quackfaster...
Synchronized Money Swimming ;-)
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/moneyswim.jpg
There's no pleasing some people...
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/impressed.jpg
Uh oh, HD&L are in big trouble! (What? A picture WITHOUT Goldie?
What's WRONG with me?!?! ;-)
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/tiddlywinks.jpg
As for this picture, what can I say? It was a muggy summer afternoon,
after lunch, I was bored, and I wanted an excuse to play with my fancy
new colored pencils. So I picked the first gag that popped into my head
and drew it. As for the result...no comment. Let's see the censors
deal with this one!
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/comegetit.jpg
For the whole gallery, I humbly invite you all to
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/quack.htm
You'll be pleased to know that I have some comic-format stories in the
works, one that is 3 pages long and takes place shortly before "Hearts
of the Yukon." The other is like 15 pages and is set after pretty much
all the stories. Wish me luck...
Anyway, thanks in advance for visiting! Comments welcome!
Katie Quackfaster
here's new art by Miss Quackfaster...
Synchronized Money Swimming ;-)
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/moneyswim.jpg
There's no pleasing some people...
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/impressed.jpg
Uh oh, HD&L are in big trouble! (What? A picture WITHOUT Goldie?
What's WRONG with me?!?! ;-)
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/tiddlywinks.jpg
As for this picture, what can I say? It was a muggy summer afternoon,
after lunch, I was bored, and I wanted an excuse to play with my fancy
new colored pencils. So I picked the first gag that popped into my head
and drew it. As for the result...no comment. Let's see the censors
deal with this one!
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/comegetit.jpg
For the whole gallery, I humbly invite you all to
http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/ridleyford/112/quack.htm
You'll be pleased to know that I have some comic-format stories in the
works, one that is 3 pages long and takes place shortly before "Hearts
of the Yukon." The other is like 15 pages and is set after pretty much
all the stories. Wish me luck...
Anyway, thanks in advance for visiting! Comments welcome!
Katie Quackfaster
Don Rosa
It's 199*8*!
Message 192 -
1998-08-11 at 06:06:25
This has nothing to do with anything... but I just realized it's the late
90's! I've known Denis Kitchen for over *25* years! Sometimes I forget that
we're in some weird sorta time warp that is accelerating time more each
year!!! It baffles science!
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #194
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90's! I've known Denis Kitchen for over *25* years! Sometimes I forget that
we're in some weird sorta time warp that is accelerating time more each
year!!! It baffles science!
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #194
******************************************
DeanMary
Computer lettering
Message 193 -
1998-08-11 at 07:46:47
A few digests back Jeff Bingham wrote:
I object to the computer drawn lettering
in the new issues. The lettering seems to violently clash with soft
curves of the hand drawn figures. Does it take too much time to add in
hand lettering? I see it as spending the time to create a statue but
leave off the nose. I have grown up in my own little artist's world
being the son of a sign painter and my eye for the way art should be has
been thusly formed. So what is the reason if any and why don't they want
to do it my way?
I also do not like the computer lettering. I know it should be a
relatively minor point, but I just cannot get used to it. Then again I
haven't really gotten used to the prestige format line of comics
either... I guess to me a comic book will always be what some refer to
as a "pamphlet" format.
Dean Rekich
I object to the computer drawn lettering
in the new issues. The lettering seems to violently clash with soft
curves of the hand drawn figures. Does it take too much time to add in
hand lettering? I see it as spending the time to create a statue but
leave off the nose. I have grown up in my own little artist's world
being the son of a sign painter and my eye for the way art should be has
been thusly formed. So what is the reason if any and why don't they want
to do it my way?
I also do not like the computer lettering. I know it should be a
relatively minor point, but I just cannot get used to it. Then again I
haven't really gotten used to the prestige format line of comics
either... I guess to me a comic book will always be what some refer to
as a "pamphlet" format.
Dean Rekich
Halsten Aastebøl
Disney comics Digest V98 #191
Message 194 -
1998-08-11 at 10:13:56
At 17:07 10.08.98 +0300, Juhana K Kouhia wrote:
>>From: Dirk Djuga <(Email removed)>
>>Subject: Re: Wrong story as WDC 54?
>Punch of wdc stories having number near 300 are quite strange. In the
>foreword of an "Aku Ankan Juhlasarjat" a Finnish DD specialists thinks
>that CB become mature drawer, but however, I think CB just lost his skills
>or such. (Or we have seen CB stories drawn by others.) "Duck Out Of Luck"
>is such a story.
>
Are you indicating that "Duck out of luck" was not drawn by Barks? Surely
it was!
>
>>>The story should be replaced by better even it is by CB, IMHO.
>>
>>Huh? It is not that bad.
>
>It is with respect to all other stories in the Best of DD series.
>At the first time, it looked really nervous work.
>
This story is actually one of Barks' best from the last couple of years
before his retirement.
>>BTW now it appears to me that I have seen other
>>instances where cousin Gladstone was a bohemian painter. Was this in a
>>Barks story also ?
>
>Without knowing I bet it is not: many current stories are just repeats
>of old CB stories. I see lots of cases where Disney just have no new
>ideas. Hmm.. I'm not sure if Don Rosa's some stories, which are going
>after CB stories, are just there because of the lack of ideas, or what.
>
>
Yes, Gladstone was bohemian musician in the Barks written and drawn "Not So
Ancient Mariner" WDC 312, the last story by Barks to appear in WDC. Also
one of his absolutely worst.
Halsten
>>From: Dirk Djuga <(Email removed)>
>>Subject: Re: Wrong story as WDC 54?
>Punch of wdc stories having number near 300 are quite strange. In the
>foreword of an "Aku Ankan Juhlasarjat" a Finnish DD specialists thinks
>that CB become mature drawer, but however, I think CB just lost his skills
>or such. (Or we have seen CB stories drawn by others.) "Duck Out Of Luck"
>is such a story.
>
Are you indicating that "Duck out of luck" was not drawn by Barks? Surely
it was!
>
>>>The story should be replaced by better even it is by CB, IMHO.
>>
>>Huh? It is not that bad.
>
>It is with respect to all other stories in the Best of DD series.
>At the first time, it looked really nervous work.
>
This story is actually one of Barks' best from the last couple of years
before his retirement.
>>BTW now it appears to me that I have seen other
>>instances where cousin Gladstone was a bohemian painter. Was this in a
>>Barks story also ?
>
>Without knowing I bet it is not: many current stories are just repeats
>of old CB stories. I see lots of cases where Disney just have no new
>ideas. Hmm.. I'm not sure if Don Rosa's some stories, which are going
>after CB stories, are just there because of the lack of ideas, or what.
>
>
Yes, Gladstone was bohemian musician in the Barks written and drawn "Not So
Ancient Mariner" WDC 312, the last story by Barks to appear in WDC. Also
one of his absolutely worst.
Halsten
Halsten Aastebøl
Notre Duck and the Mad Duke of Duckburg
Message 195 -
1998-08-11 at 10:26:57
At 15:11 10.08.98 EDT, (Email removed) wrote:
>
>
>DAVID KING:
><<Re the censorship angle, it seems strange to me that something like "Notre
>Duck" should not have been censored! After all, that's akin to saying the
>Virgin Mary was a duck! (Maybe Jesus was a mouse....)>>
>
>Well, I'm a Catholic, and this story's "offensiveness" quite simply didn't
>occur to me. Perhaps it was the fact that Barks drew the Cathedral of
>Notre Duck with no overtly religious or even quasi-religious symbols to be
>seen anywhere. There's statuary, but nothing that resembles the sort of
>stuff you'd see in an authentic Roman Catholic cathedral. As Barks drew it,
>the "Cathedral" had more of the feel of an ancient secular building, a la
>the castle of the "Mad Duke of Duckburg."
>
>Of course, I always had trouble taking the idea of Gothic building in
>Duckburg seriously, so perhaps I simply filed this away as an "imaginary
>story" not worth getting riled over...
>
Well, maybe Notre Duck was constructed rather recently by the above
mentioned Mad Duke of Duckburg. He was after all mad, and Duckburg being in
the USA, probably not a duke at all. OK, he could be an exile duke from
Brutopia, but not the duke of Duckburg!
Could there be a connection between this mad duke and the duchess seen in
"The Thrifty Spendthrift" US 47?
Halsten
>
>
>DAVID KING:
><<Re the censorship angle, it seems strange to me that something like "Notre
>Duck" should not have been censored! After all, that's akin to saying the
>Virgin Mary was a duck! (Maybe Jesus was a mouse....)>>
>
>Well, I'm a Catholic, and this story's "offensiveness" quite simply didn't
>occur to me. Perhaps it was the fact that Barks drew the Cathedral of
>Notre Duck with no overtly religious or even quasi-religious symbols to be
>seen anywhere. There's statuary, but nothing that resembles the sort of
>stuff you'd see in an authentic Roman Catholic cathedral. As Barks drew it,
>the "Cathedral" had more of the feel of an ancient secular building, a la
>the castle of the "Mad Duke of Duckburg."
>
>Of course, I always had trouble taking the idea of Gothic building in
>Duckburg seriously, so perhaps I simply filed this away as an "imaginary
>story" not worth getting riled over...
>
Well, maybe Notre Duck was constructed rather recently by the above
mentioned Mad Duke of Duckburg. He was after all mad, and Duckburg being in
the USA, probably not a duke at all. OK, he could be an exile duke from
Brutopia, but not the duke of Duckburg!
Could there be a connection between this mad duke and the duchess seen in
"The Thrifty Spendthrift" US 47?
Halsten