David:
> I'm not sure what you've done, Ari, but now I can't access Inducks
>at all. duckburg.dk appears to be up and running, but I simply can't access
>the files; when I try to get at them directly using Bolderbast, I get a
>permission-denied error.
> I can only imagine that whatever you've done to block Google from
>getting in is now blocking me (and others?) too. I hope it can be fixed
>soon.
Actually that permission denied error was intentional to cut the
traffic. Hosting the files on coa.duckburg.dk is a bit of a problem,
since COA is quite slow again. I wonder if the files could be
hosted somewhere else?
Anyway, sorry for the problem. For now I can take care that you
can have the files, but if many other people need to download them
regularly from COA it is a bandwidth problem.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Author
Topic: 200303
(442 messages)
Ari Seppi
COA in Working Order
Message 166 -
2003-03-17 at 14:04:25
Theresa Wiegert
Eggs and sizes
Message 167 -
2003-03-17 at 14:13:02
Kriton wrote:
>>> I remember of the size of the "square egg device" that has been
distributed with some comic books, where you squeeze a peeled, freshly
boiled egg inside a cube and let the egg take the cube's shape as it
cools.
Ha! I tested that square egg device, but I don't think the square people
of plain awful would have agreed to call that egg a square. it turned into
more like a sphere with a small cube inside of it (with extremely rounded
corners)
But how is the size of the egg as compared to the sizes of the ducks? I
don't have access to the story here, but as far as I can remember, the
proportions were about the same as human to ordinary egg? or perhaps the
ratio square-egg/duck was somewhat smaller, but still.... What I'm
thinking of is how tall Donald really is. I'm not saying he's small as a
regularsized duck, but I don't think he's as tall as me for instance. I
would expect him to be... hmm.. about as tall as the floor lamp standing
next to me, that wo8uld be about 1.2 meters or so.
Oh well, back to work... :)
/Theresa
>>> I remember of the size of the "square egg device" that has been
distributed with some comic books, where you squeeze a peeled, freshly
boiled egg inside a cube and let the egg take the cube's shape as it
cools.
Ha! I tested that square egg device, but I don't think the square people
of plain awful would have agreed to call that egg a square. it turned into
more like a sphere with a small cube inside of it (with extremely rounded
corners)
But how is the size of the egg as compared to the sizes of the ducks? I
don't have access to the story here, but as far as I can remember, the
proportions were about the same as human to ordinary egg? or perhaps the
ratio square-egg/duck was somewhat smaller, but still.... What I'm
thinking of is how tall Donald really is. I'm not saying he's small as a
regularsized duck, but I don't think he's as tall as me for instance. I
would expect him to be... hmm.. about as tall as the floor lamp standing
next to me, that wo8uld be about 1.2 meters or so.
Oh well, back to work... :)
/Theresa
H.W.Fluks
Naples report (photos)
Message 168 -
2003-03-17 at 15:22:12
Last week, I wrote:
> Here's a report of my short holiday to Napoli of the past week.
> I went to the Napoli Comicon, where Don Rosa and many
> Italian DCML-members met.
Photographs, without further explanation, can now be found on:
http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/p03-01.html
(Warning: the photographs are quite big!)
--Harry.
> Here's a report of my short holiday to Napoli of the past week.
> I went to the Napoli Comicon, where Don Rosa and many
> Italian DCML-members met.
Photographs, without further explanation, can now be found on:
http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/p03-01.html
(Warning: the photographs are quite big!)
--Harry.
Kriton Kyrimis
Eggs and sizes
Message 169 -
2003-03-17 at 16:29:56
> Ha! I tested that square egg device, but I don't think the square people
> of plain awful would have agreed to call that egg a square. it turned into
> more like a sphere with a small cube inside of it (with extremely rounded
> corners)
A sphere with a small cube inside it? Do you mean that you managed to
square the yolk?!?!?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"History repeats itself, but it does not stutter."
-----
> of plain awful would have agreed to call that egg a square. it turned into
> more like a sphere with a small cube inside of it (with extremely rounded
> corners)
A sphere with a small cube inside it? Do you mean that you managed to
square the yolk?!?!?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"History repeats itself, but it does not stutter."
-----
Blasco Pisapia
Duckburg map
Message 170 -
2003-03-17 at 17:17:14
Hi, Gilles and everyone!
In a previous mail, you asked for further informations about the
locations of the Ducks' houses on Duckburg map.
Well, the small map which is displayed on every "episode" of "Tutti a
casa di..." was meant to be only sort of a scheme. A more complete
and detailed map, along with a map of Duckburg's surroundings, had to
follow. Presently, for all I know, the project to make a fold up plan
of Duckburg, showing its most famous landmarks, has been abandoned.
Still, The map I had prepared for that purpose has been published
last week in a Panini Stickers album. It is not complete, and doesn't
show a full legenda of all the landmarks. I'm not able, now, to
upload both plan and legenda, whose original pencil art I've kept.
If you are interested, I can sent you copies of them by snail mail.
Let me know.
Bye
Blasco
In a previous mail, you asked for further informations about the
locations of the Ducks' houses on Duckburg map.
Well, the small map which is displayed on every "episode" of "Tutti a
casa di..." was meant to be only sort of a scheme. A more complete
and detailed map, along with a map of Duckburg's surroundings, had to
follow. Presently, for all I know, the project to make a fold up plan
of Duckburg, showing its most famous landmarks, has been abandoned.
Still, The map I had prepared for that purpose has been published
last week in a Panini Stickers album. It is not complete, and doesn't
show a full legenda of all the landmarks. I'm not able, now, to
upload both plan and legenda, whose original pencil art I've kept.
If you are interested, I can sent you copies of them by snail mail.
Let me know.
Bye
Blasco
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Naples report (photos)
Message 171 -
2003-03-17 at 19:26:39
H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl wrote:
> Here's a report of my short holiday to Napoli
> of the past week. I went to the Napoli Comicon,
> where Don Rosa and many Italian DCML-members
> met.
>
> Photographs, without further explanation, can
> now be found on:
Is this a normal Dutch way of presenting photos,
or will you add the necessary info when you find
time to do it?
As for now, I and the rest of us can only guess
that the lady accompanying Don Rosa in many of
those photos is his wife Ann. Can you confirm
that?
Sigvald :-)
> Here's a report of my short holiday to Napoli
> of the past week. I went to the Napoli Comicon,
> where Don Rosa and many Italian DCML-members
> met.
>
> Photographs, without further explanation, can
> now be found on:
Is this a normal Dutch way of presenting photos,
or will you add the necessary info when you find
time to do it?
As for now, I and the rest of us can only guess
that the lady accompanying Don Rosa in many of
those photos is his wife Ann. Can you confirm
that?
Sigvald :-)
M.J. Prior
Naples report: HDnL's parents?
Message 172 -
2003-03-17 at 19:46:13
Harry Fluks wrote:
> Here's a report of my short holiday to Napoli of the past > week. I went to the Napoli Comicon, where Don Rosa and
> many Italian DCML-members met. I hope the following is
> not too boring for people who weren't there. 8-)
Don’t worry Harry! Imho, yours was one of the most
pleasant and interesting mails of the past few weeks.
> Still, I heard something new there: Don included a hint
> to HDL's parents in the "Return to Xanadu" story!
Puzzling! Any ideas on this subject, anyone? The only clue
I can think of is that both “Return to Xanadu”
and “The Crown of the Crusader Kings” have an
ending that points forward to a possible sequel in which
$crooge might return to his ancestral castle in Scotland.
"The Crown" seems thus in more than one way to be a sort
of sequel to "Xanadu"!
(The crown of the crusader kings being also the
counterpart to the crown of Djenghis Khan, which got lost
in Tralla La.)
Still, I think it’s a good thing that Don Rosa
won’t be allowed to do a story about the "Return of
Donald’s Lost Sister" or something like that.
To me, part of the charm of this lost-sister-thing lies in
the fact that nobody knows exactly what happened, so
everybody can think of his own story.
Of course, even when someone like Don Rosa *does* a story
about what happened, we don’t have to accept his
version as the ‘truth’, if we don’t like
it.
But I’m afraid that’s not exactly how it would
work out. Somehow, all other possible versions of what
happened would seem less possible (or even less
‘legitimate’*), once one particular version
will have been shown in a story.
Especially a story about such a fundamental thing as
‘why HDnL don’t live with their
parents’.
*) Yes, that’s an ugly term.
I like my own Della better than Don Rosa’s :)!
And maybe the same applies to ‘what happened between
$crooge and Goldie when he kidnapped her for a month in
the Yukon’. Telling that story might spoil it. And
yet, it takes a good and careful storyteller to get it
just right, so Don Rosa might very well be the right man
on that job.
Don, I’m looking forward to it!
Michiel Prior.
> Here's a report of my short holiday to Napoli of the past > week. I went to the Napoli Comicon, where Don Rosa and
> many Italian DCML-members met. I hope the following is
> not too boring for people who weren't there. 8-)
Don’t worry Harry! Imho, yours was one of the most
pleasant and interesting mails of the past few weeks.
> Still, I heard something new there: Don included a hint
> to HDL's parents in the "Return to Xanadu" story!
Puzzling! Any ideas on this subject, anyone? The only clue
I can think of is that both “Return to Xanadu”
and “The Crown of the Crusader Kings” have an
ending that points forward to a possible sequel in which
$crooge might return to his ancestral castle in Scotland.
"The Crown" seems thus in more than one way to be a sort
of sequel to "Xanadu"!
(The crown of the crusader kings being also the
counterpart to the crown of Djenghis Khan, which got lost
in Tralla La.)
Still, I think it’s a good thing that Don Rosa
won’t be allowed to do a story about the "Return of
Donald’s Lost Sister" or something like that.
To me, part of the charm of this lost-sister-thing lies in
the fact that nobody knows exactly what happened, so
everybody can think of his own story.
Of course, even when someone like Don Rosa *does* a story
about what happened, we don’t have to accept his
version as the ‘truth’, if we don’t like
it.
But I’m afraid that’s not exactly how it would
work out. Somehow, all other possible versions of what
happened would seem less possible (or even less
‘legitimate’*), once one particular version
will have been shown in a story.
Especially a story about such a fundamental thing as
‘why HDnL don’t live with their
parents’.
*) Yes, that’s an ugly term.
I like my own Della better than Don Rosa’s :)!
And maybe the same applies to ‘what happened between
$crooge and Goldie when he kidnapped her for a month in
the Yukon’. Telling that story might spoil it. And
yet, it takes a good and careful storyteller to get it
just right, so Don Rosa might very well be the right man
on that job.
Don, I’m looking forward to it!
Michiel Prior.
Kai Saarto
Naples report (photos)
Message 173 -
2003-03-17 at 20:06:27
> As for now, I and the rest of us can only guess
> that the lady accompanying Don Rosa in many of
> those photos is his wife Ann. Can you confirm
> that?
I?m no Harry, but that is Ann alright. I think I managed to put names to
faces by reading Harry's report. Nice pictures. Especially the one where
Don is chewing a sandwich... :-)
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
> that the lady accompanying Don Rosa in many of
> those photos is his wife Ann. Can you confirm
> that?
I?m no Harry, but that is Ann alright. I think I managed to put names to
faces by reading Harry's report. Nice pictures. Especially the one where
Don is chewing a sandwich... :-)
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Goofy313g
Van Horn's Duck Family Tree [to Rich Bellacerra]
Message 174 -
2003-03-17 at 20:19:14
Hi!
Rich, a while ago, you sent me a family tree by William Van Horn:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/vanhorntree.html
is it possible for you to give me the original references of the tree?
thanks,
Gilles
Rich, a while ago, you sent me a family tree by William Van Horn:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/vanhorntree.html
is it possible for you to give me the original references of the tree?
thanks,
Gilles
Dennis Books
Size of the cubic eggs
Message 175 -
2003-03-17 at 21:14:04
Do not know about well educated engineers or professors of mathematics; but all 35 members of my 8th grade science class concur with your approximate measurements.Several however needed some background concerning Uncle Srooge and square eggs.
Best wishes...Dennis
.
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M.J. Prior
Naples report
Message 176 -
2003-03-17 at 21:48:59
Okay, here's a retry without the HTML-thingamajigs (or at
least I hope so).
Sigvald, Harry's comments to accompany the photographs
were posted a week before on this mailinglist.
(Monday March 10th)
Harry Fluks wrote:
> Here's a report of my short holiday to Napoli of the past
> week. I went to the Napoli Comicon, where Don Rosa and
> many Italian DCML-members met. I hope the following is
> not too boring for people who weren't there. 8-)
Don't worry Harry! Imho, yours was one of the most
pleasant and interesting mails of the past few weeks.
> Still, I heard something new there: Don included a hint
> to HDL's parents in the "Return to Xanadu" story!
Puzzling! Any ideas on this subject, anyone? The only clue
I can think of is that both "Return to Xanadu" and "The
Crown of the Crusader Kings" have an ending that points
forward to a possible sequel in which $crooge might return
to his ancestral castle in Scotland.
"The Crown" seems thus in more than one way to be a sort
of sequel to "Xanadu"!
(The crown of the crusader kings being also the
counterpart to the crown of Djenghis Khan, which got lost
in Tralla La.)
Still, I think it's a good thing that Don Rosa won't be
allowed to do a story about the "Return of Donald's Lost
Sister" or something like that.
To me, part of the charm of this lost-sister-thing lies in
the fact that nobody knows exactly what happened, so
everybody can think of his own story.
Of course, even when someone like Don Rosa *does* a story
about what happened, we don't have to accept his version
as the 'truth', if we don't like it.
But I'm afraid that's not exactly how it would work out.
Somehow, all other possible versions of what happened
would seem less possible (or even less 'legitimate'*),
once one particular version will have been shown in a
story.
Especially a story about such a fundamental thing as 'why
HDnL don't live with their parents'.
*) Yes, that's an ugly term.
I like my own Della better than Don Rosa's :)!
And maybe the same applies to 'what happened between
$crooge and Goldie when he kidnapped her for a month in
the Yukon'. Telling that story might spoil it. And yet, it
takes a good and careful storyteller to get it just right,
so Don Rosa might very well be the right man on that job.
Don, I'm looking forward to it!
Michiel Prior.
least I hope so).
Sigvald, Harry's comments to accompany the photographs
were posted a week before on this mailinglist.
(Monday March 10th)
Harry Fluks wrote:
> Here's a report of my short holiday to Napoli of the past
> week. I went to the Napoli Comicon, where Don Rosa and
> many Italian DCML-members met. I hope the following is
> not too boring for people who weren't there. 8-)
Don't worry Harry! Imho, yours was one of the most
pleasant and interesting mails of the past few weeks.
> Still, I heard something new there: Don included a hint
> to HDL's parents in the "Return to Xanadu" story!
Puzzling! Any ideas on this subject, anyone? The only clue
I can think of is that both "Return to Xanadu" and "The
Crown of the Crusader Kings" have an ending that points
forward to a possible sequel in which $crooge might return
to his ancestral castle in Scotland.
"The Crown" seems thus in more than one way to be a sort
of sequel to "Xanadu"!
(The crown of the crusader kings being also the
counterpart to the crown of Djenghis Khan, which got lost
in Tralla La.)
Still, I think it's a good thing that Don Rosa won't be
allowed to do a story about the "Return of Donald's Lost
Sister" or something like that.
To me, part of the charm of this lost-sister-thing lies in
the fact that nobody knows exactly what happened, so
everybody can think of his own story.
Of course, even when someone like Don Rosa *does* a story
about what happened, we don't have to accept his version
as the 'truth', if we don't like it.
But I'm afraid that's not exactly how it would work out.
Somehow, all other possible versions of what happened
would seem less possible (or even less 'legitimate'*),
once one particular version will have been shown in a
story.
Especially a story about such a fundamental thing as 'why
HDnL don't live with their parents'.
*) Yes, that's an ugly term.
I like my own Della better than Don Rosa's :)!
And maybe the same applies to 'what happened between
$crooge and Goldie when he kidnapped her for a month in
the Yukon'. Telling that story might spoil it. And yet, it
takes a good and careful storyteller to get it just right,
so Don Rosa might very well be the right man on that job.
Don, I'm looking forward to it!
Michiel Prior.
Danehog
(Off-Topic) The Bone Saga
Message 177 -
2003-03-17 at 21:59:44
In a message dated 3/17/2003 5:08:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
info at klartekst.no writes:
> But please: Not until he has finished the
> Bone saga. We have waited long enough for that.
Agreed! I can't believe he's actually doing side projects for DC Comics,
while Bone still has four issues to go. Tsk, tsk!
Of course, I can understand if he needs a break, but I don't see why he can't
just sit down and WORK on Bone for a while. Sure, there's always artistic
integrity, and maybe he just works slowly--I can understand that. But this
annually-produced business is kind of getting out of hand.
Just a thought.
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
info at klartekst.no writes:
> But please: Not until he has finished the
> Bone saga. We have waited long enough for that.
Agreed! I can't believe he's actually doing side projects for DC Comics,
while Bone still has four issues to go. Tsk, tsk!
Of course, I can understand if he needs a break, but I don't see why he can't
just sit down and WORK on Bone for a while. Sure, there's always artistic
integrity, and maybe he just works slowly--I can understand that. But this
annually-produced business is kind of getting out of hand.
Just a thought.
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
Danehog
Thoughts on Van Horn's Tree
Message 178 -
2003-03-17 at 22:04:11
In a message dated 3/17/2003 1:21:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Goofy313g at aol.com writes:
> http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/vanhorntree.html
While I prefer Rosa's Duck Family Tree overall, I think Van Horn's is simply
more appealing visually. He really has a talent for making the Ducks purely
_comical_, which gets stale after a while. Still, it works here.
I think part of the appeal of Barks and Rosa's work is that it is silly and
humorous, etc., but is still serious enough to be BELIEVABLE. The characters
just seem REAL. A lot of that is seemingly lost in Van Horn's work--which is
why I prefer his art to his writing.
I don't know how I got off on that, as it's barely related to anything, but
anyway, I like that tree. Or something!
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
Goofy313g at aol.com writes:
> http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/vanhorntree.html
While I prefer Rosa's Duck Family Tree overall, I think Van Horn's is simply
more appealing visually. He really has a talent for making the Ducks purely
_comical_, which gets stale after a while. Still, it works here.
I think part of the appeal of Barks and Rosa's work is that it is silly and
humorous, etc., but is still serious enough to be BELIEVABLE. The characters
just seem REAL. A lot of that is seemingly lost in Van Horn's work--which is
why I prefer his art to his writing.
I don't know how I got off on that, as it's barely related to anything, but
anyway, I like that tree. Or something!
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
Crocker, John
Stories Drawn for a Specific Format
Message 179 -
2003-03-17 at 22:37:26
> >Hopefully. I haven't seen any art of the stories appearing in the
> >premiere issue; does anyone know if it's particularly detailed?
>
> The stories were drawn for that very format. It'll look just fine.
>Looking at the scans someone posted, I can definitely see that. It must be
>difficult to draw stories for a specific format, without ruining the art
>entirely, but the artists here seem to have pulled it off fairly well.
>--
>Thanks for reading this nonsense,
>Dane Martin
I looked at these scans and I personally thought that everything looked quite fine, guess I have gotten used to that type of format through other comics and such. Anyway, these scans got me quite excited about this summer. ;-)
John Crocker.
> >premiere issue; does anyone know if it's particularly detailed?
>
> The stories were drawn for that very format. It'll look just fine.
>Looking at the scans someone posted, I can definitely see that. It must be
>difficult to draw stories for a specific format, without ruining the art
>entirely, but the artists here seem to have pulled it off fairly well.
>--
>Thanks for reading this nonsense,
>Dane Martin
I looked at these scans and I personally thought that everything looked quite fine, guess I have gotten used to that type of format through other comics and such. Anyway, these scans got me quite excited about this summer. ;-)
John Crocker.
Danehog
Other US Pocket Books?
Message 180 -
2003-03-17 at 22:43:46
In a message dated 3/17/2003 3:39:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
John.Crocker at dvn.com writes:
> I looked at these scans and I personally thought that everything looked
> quite fine, guess I have gotten used to that type of format through other
> comics and such.
What other (non-manga) comics are available in this "pocket" format in
America, if any? I don't think I've seen any, but are there any out there?
I'd like to give some non-Disney ones a try before the Disney ones launch,
just to see how the artists stack up when dealing with the format.
I only ask this because it seems that the "pocket" format seems extremely
precise, in that it seems to only work with specific art styles. I mean, I'm
a big fan of "Asterix," which looks really nice in the album format. I can't
imagine "Asterix" being printed at a "pocket" size.
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
John.Crocker at dvn.com writes:
> I looked at these scans and I personally thought that everything looked
> quite fine, guess I have gotten used to that type of format through other
> comics and such.
What other (non-manga) comics are available in this "pocket" format in
America, if any? I don't think I've seen any, but are there any out there?
I'd like to give some non-Disney ones a try before the Disney ones launch,
just to see how the artists stack up when dealing with the format.
I only ask this because it seems that the "pocket" format seems extremely
precise, in that it seems to only work with specific art styles. I mean, I'm
a big fan of "Asterix," which looks really nice in the album format. I can't
imagine "Asterix" being printed at a "pocket" size.
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin