> I'm afraid that Don is right in believing that the reason HD&L are
> staying with Donald can only be something unpleasant.
>
Maybe his father is... Duckman!!
(LOL)
Fabio
pd: I really think they are orphans...
Author
Topic: 200303
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Fabio Blanco
HDL's parents
Message 376 -
2003-03-27 at 23:42:26
Goofy313g
Humperdink Duck's first appearance (to David Gerstein, Don Rosa and
Message 377 -
2003-03-28 at 00:36:59
In a message dated Sat, 19 Jan 2002 00:28:20 -0500, Don Rosa wrote:
>>>I checked my old research notes for the "Lo$" and I see it was in WDC&S
>>>#121, which I think was the very first Grandma Duck comic book story.
>>>Another issue in that same range had the name of her deceased husband,
>>>Humperdink Duck, in another scrapbook scene... but it was David who told me
>>>about that so perhaps he recalls that issue #.
Is there a chance that it is Bob Moore's untitled W OS 353-01 (November 1951) ?
Inducks description seems to be the good one...
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+OS++353-01//_
can anyone confirm this?
about grandpas, Rich tells in his pages that the grandpa duck from the cartoon "No Hunting" "made a appearance in a memory flashback of Grandma's in the Dell giant Vacation Parade #2 (July 1951)"
can anyone check this too?
Thanks,
Gilles
>>>I checked my old research notes for the "Lo$" and I see it was in WDC&S
>>>#121, which I think was the very first Grandma Duck comic book story.
>>>Another issue in that same range had the name of her deceased husband,
>>>Humperdink Duck, in another scrapbook scene... but it was David who told me
>>>about that so perhaps he recalls that issue #.
Is there a chance that it is Bob Moore's untitled W OS 353-01 (November 1951) ?
Inducks description seems to be the good one...
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+OS++353-01//_
can anyone confirm this?
about grandpas, Rich tells in his pages that the grandpa duck from the cartoon "No Hunting" "made a appearance in a memory flashback of Grandma's in the Dell giant Vacation Parade #2 (July 1951)"
can anyone check this too?
Thanks,
Gilles
Mickey
Donald's parents
Message 378 -
2003-03-28 at 00:55:48
Sigvald:
>> Can anyone this time please explain Hortense's behavior in 1906 and why
> Quackmore is not mentioned in that story?
I want to know this answer too, I was just wondering about it in these
days!
Mr. Rosa, please?! ^_^;;
Mickey
p.s sigvald, sorry for the message in your mail, this mailing list can't
make reply directly and I make confusion!
>> Can anyone this time please explain Hortense's behavior in 1906 and why
> Quackmore is not mentioned in that story?
I want to know this answer too, I was just wondering about it in these
days!
Mr. Rosa, please?! ^_^;;
Mickey
p.s sigvald, sorry for the message in your mail, this mailing list can't
make reply directly and I make confusion!
Goofy313g
Gyro's thinking cap
Message 379 -
2003-03-28 at 02:55:09
Do you have an idea about how Gyro's thinking cap works?
Maybe the birds' droppings countain chemical substances which
favor thinking, but he hides them behind a cap so nobody
knows that birds actually often defecate on his head :-) If
it is so, then I prefer Barksian way for him to get an idea :
a good old hammer blow on the head :-)
Are you aware of other ways for Gyro to get an idea?
Gilles
Maybe the birds' droppings countain chemical substances which
favor thinking, but he hides them behind a cap so nobody
knows that birds actually often defecate on his head :-) If
it is so, then I prefer Barksian way for him to get an idea :
a good old hammer blow on the head :-)
Are you aware of other ways for Gyro to get an idea?
Gilles
Goofy313g
Grandma's aunt Klaziena (need help from Dutch fellows)
Message 380 -
2003-03-28 at 06:57:25
Hi!
In a message dated Mon,25 Nov 2002 18:07:19 +0100, Michiel J. Prior wrote :
>>>Have you already added Grandma's aunt Klaziena to your tree?
>>>She appeared in a Freddy Milton (?) story in the Dutch DD weekly
>>>this year (somewhere around the issue with the new Jippes JW
>>>story). Grandma tells Gus about how she inherited the farm from
>>>her aunt. Her (Klaziena's) parents and her lover are also shown.
>>>(That's four new characters.) I didn't buy the issue, so I'm afraid I
>>>can't provide you with any scans. Maybe her name was Klazien,
>>>not Klaziena.
>>>If you tried to fit her into Don Rosa's Tree, I'd say she must be a
>>>sister of Gertrude Gadwall (Grandma's mother), because Klaziena's
>>>father is not Cornelius Coot.
I made researches on INDUCKS, and the story seems to be "How Grandma Got It",
H21178, from DD2002-36:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/H+21178
If anyone could provide scans of the four characters, or at least check if
this is the good story, that'd be very nice of him...
Thanks,
Gilles
In a message dated Mon,25 Nov 2002 18:07:19 +0100, Michiel J. Prior wrote :
>>>Have you already added Grandma's aunt Klaziena to your tree?
>>>She appeared in a Freddy Milton (?) story in the Dutch DD weekly
>>>this year (somewhere around the issue with the new Jippes JW
>>>story). Grandma tells Gus about how she inherited the farm from
>>>her aunt. Her (Klaziena's) parents and her lover are also shown.
>>>(That's four new characters.) I didn't buy the issue, so I'm afraid I
>>>can't provide you with any scans. Maybe her name was Klazien,
>>>not Klaziena.
>>>If you tried to fit her into Don Rosa's Tree, I'd say she must be a
>>>sister of Gertrude Gadwall (Grandma's mother), because Klaziena's
>>>father is not Cornelius Coot.
I made researches on INDUCKS, and the story seems to be "How Grandma Got It",
H21178, from DD2002-36:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/H+21178
If anyone could provide scans of the four characters, or at least check if
this is the good story, that'd be very nice of him...
Thanks,
Gilles
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 1319
Message 381 -
2003-03-28 at 08:16:49
> From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
> Subject: Donald's parents
> In Lo$ part 10 - "The Invader of Fort Duckburg" (1902) Donald's parents
> meets each other for the first time and fall in love.
> In Lo$ part 10b - "The Sharpie of The Culebra Cut" (1906) both Donald's
> mother and her sister Mathilda goes with Scrooge to Panama.
> Donald's father
> is *not* mentioned at all. During this trip Donald's mother shows as great
> interest for "cowboys" as before she met her later husband Quackmore Duck.
> In Lo$ part 11 - "The Empire-Builder from Calisota". Donald's parents are
> first engaged (1909) and then married and with a family (1930).
> Can anyone this time please explain Hortense's behavior in 1906 and why
> Quackmore is not mentioned in that story?
I've read the above several times, and I don't even see what the question is
in your mind. Hortense & Quackmore first met in 1902, but still were not
engaged in 1906. Maybe they were not getting along in 1906, therefore
enabling me to make the cowboy jokes I wanted to make in Panama. Where in
that story did Quackmore need to be mentioned?
You're talking about a hotheaded, hard-to-get-along-with hellion... as well
as the mother of Donald, a guy who has likewise been going with Daisy and
still not engaged and still having fights after nearly 70 years! (Well, at
least 10-15 years in comic-strip-time.)
What's difficult to understand here?
> Subject: Donald's parents
> In Lo$ part 10 - "The Invader of Fort Duckburg" (1902) Donald's parents
> meets each other for the first time and fall in love.
> In Lo$ part 10b - "The Sharpie of The Culebra Cut" (1906) both Donald's
> mother and her sister Mathilda goes with Scrooge to Panama.
> Donald's father
> is *not* mentioned at all. During this trip Donald's mother shows as great
> interest for "cowboys" as before she met her later husband Quackmore Duck.
> In Lo$ part 11 - "The Empire-Builder from Calisota". Donald's parents are
> first engaged (1909) and then married and with a family (1930).
> Can anyone this time please explain Hortense's behavior in 1906 and why
> Quackmore is not mentioned in that story?
I've read the above several times, and I don't even see what the question is
in your mind. Hortense & Quackmore first met in 1902, but still were not
engaged in 1906. Maybe they were not getting along in 1906, therefore
enabling me to make the cowboy jokes I wanted to make in Panama. Where in
that story did Quackmore need to be mentioned?
You're talking about a hotheaded, hard-to-get-along-with hellion... as well
as the mother of Donald, a guy who has likewise been going with Daisy and
still not engaged and still having fights after nearly 70 years! (Well, at
least 10-15 years in comic-strip-time.)
What's difficult to understand here?
Kriton Kyrimis
HDL's parents
Message 382 -
2003-03-28 at 08:36:31
> Remember that back in the old days this beavior was not uncommon.
You mean it was common for parents to abandon their children and go work
on whatever noble cause struck their fancy?
Even if this is the case, it would still be pretty irresponsible, and not
something to promote.
> It was also just after WW2 and a lot of children had lost their parents.
True, but the point is that HD&L did not lose their parents in the war.
If you mean that their parents were caring for war orphans, why couldn't
they care for their own children as well?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"It doesn't do any harm to be polite, even to machines. Some of my best
friends are machines."
-----
You mean it was common for parents to abandon their children and go work
on whatever noble cause struck their fancy?
Even if this is the case, it would still be pretty irresponsible, and not
something to promote.
> It was also just after WW2 and a lot of children had lost their parents.
True, but the point is that HD&L did not lose their parents in the war.
If you mean that their parents were caring for war orphans, why couldn't
they care for their own children as well?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"It doesn't do any harm to be polite, even to machines. Some of my best
friends are machines."
-----
Ola Martinsson
Cover paper type, again
Message 383 -
2003-03-28 at 09:58:10
I don't know what you mean with "a somewhat high price " but in Sweden
the rare ones are selling for at least 100 - 300 euro, (a little more in
dollars). That is if you can find someone willing to sell. The last I
saw was #3 1954 in G-VG sold for 1400 SEK. That will be about 150 euro.
Ola in a sunny Stockholm +7 and a little windy
On 03/26/03 03:05 PM, Kai Saarto wrote:
> Sounds similar to Finnish editorial copies. These are for the staff to
> make sure the coloring etc. comes out OK. I've seen them auctioned for a
> somewhat high price in Finnish eBay equivalent.
>
the rare ones are selling for at least 100 - 300 euro, (a little more in
dollars). That is if you can find someone willing to sell. The last I
saw was #3 1954 in G-VG sold for 1400 SEK. That will be about 150 euro.
Ola in a sunny Stockholm +7 and a little windy
On 03/26/03 03:05 PM, Kai Saarto wrote:
> Sounds similar to Finnish editorial copies. These are for the staff to
> make sure the coloring etc. comes out OK. I've seen them auctioned for a
> somewhat high price in Finnish eBay equivalent.
>
Michael Schartau
HDL's parents
Message 384 -
2003-03-28 at 12:01:06
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kriton Kyrimis" <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> > Remember that back in the old days this beavior was not uncommon.
>
> You mean it was common for parents to abandon their children and go work
> on whatever noble cause struck their fancy?
>
Yes, for some people. Like working abroad for a few years. in Europe, South
America or where American companys were established. You find the same
situation where European companys where developing abroad or just maintaning
the British or Frensh lifestyle in the colonies.
> Even if this is the case, it would still be pretty irresponsible, and not
> something to promote.
>
Well, if it was customary, it was not seen as irresponsible.
> > It was also just after WW2 and a lot of children had lost their parents.
>
> True, but the point is that HD&L did not lose their parents in the war.
> If you mean that their parents were caring for war orphans, why couldn't
> they care for their own children as well?
No, I was more refering to that the situation could be similar, and
therefor mor acceptable.
/Michael
From: "Kriton Kyrimis" <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> > Remember that back in the old days this beavior was not uncommon.
>
> You mean it was common for parents to abandon their children and go work
> on whatever noble cause struck their fancy?
>
Yes, for some people. Like working abroad for a few years. in Europe, South
America or where American companys were established. You find the same
situation where European companys where developing abroad or just maintaning
the British or Frensh lifestyle in the colonies.
> Even if this is the case, it would still be pretty irresponsible, and not
> something to promote.
>
Well, if it was customary, it was not seen as irresponsible.
> > It was also just after WW2 and a lot of children had lost their parents.
>
> True, but the point is that HD&L did not lose their parents in the war.
> If you mean that their parents were caring for war orphans, why couldn't
> they care for their own children as well?
No, I was more refering to that the situation could be similar, and
therefor mor acceptable.
/Michael
H.W.Fluks
Napoli once more
Message 385 -
2003-03-28 at 12:14:47
I added some photographs of Don's visit to Naples to my website:
http://inducks.org/dd50/fotos/p03-01.html
(The photos were made by Ann Rosa on Dan Shane's digital camera.)
There are some photos of the Vesuvius trip, and some additional photos on the other pages.
I also added Don's report which he e-mailed here on DCML last week.
--Harry.
http://inducks.org/dd50/fotos/p03-01.html
(The photos were made by Ann Rosa on Dan Shane's digital camera.)
There are some photos of the Vesuvius trip, and some additional photos on the other pages.
I also added Don's report which he e-mailed here on DCML last week.
--Harry.
Petri Kanninen
Donald's parents
Message 386 -
2003-03-28 at 13:14:29
SIGVALD:
>In Lo$ part 10b - "The Sharpie of The Culebra Cut" (1906) both Donald's
>mother and her sister Mathilda goes with Scrooge to Panama. Donald's
>father is *not* mentioned at all. During this trip Donald's mother shows
>as great interest for "cowboys" as before she met her later husband
>Quackmore Duck.
Hi,
first thing that comes into my mind is that Quakcmore and Hortensia are
both quite quick to anger. So probably their relationship wasn't too
steady and they had many fights and break-ups before finally getting
married. Maybe they were having a big fight and Hortensia went with
Scrooge to get away from him.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Toivon, ett? lyhyt ja ytimek?s esitykseni valaisi teille, arvon
yleis?, miksi makkaran p?iden lukum??r?n vakioiminen
kolmiuloitteisessa liha-avaruudessa on paitsi haastavaa, my?s
ensiarvoisen t?rke??." -Taavi Ankka
>In Lo$ part 10b - "The Sharpie of The Culebra Cut" (1906) both Donald's
>mother and her sister Mathilda goes with Scrooge to Panama. Donald's
>father is *not* mentioned at all. During this trip Donald's mother shows
>as great interest for "cowboys" as before she met her later husband
>Quackmore Duck.
Hi,
first thing that comes into my mind is that Quakcmore and Hortensia are
both quite quick to anger. So probably their relationship wasn't too
steady and they had many fights and break-ups before finally getting
married. Maybe they were having a big fight and Hortensia went with
Scrooge to get away from him.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Toivon, ett? lyhyt ja ytimek?s esitykseni valaisi teille, arvon
yleis?, miksi makkaran p?iden lukum??r?n vakioiminen
kolmiuloitteisessa liha-avaruudessa on paitsi haastavaa, my?s
ensiarvoisen t?rke??." -Taavi Ankka
Mickey
HDL's parents
Message 387 -
2003-03-28 at 15:22:40
Such a brand new topic!
Kriton:
> True, but the point is that HD&L did not lose their parents in the war.
Who said? Can't their father be dead in war?
Mickey
Kriton:
> True, but the point is that HD&L did not lose their parents in the war.
Who said? Can't their father be dead in war?
Mickey
Kriton Kyrimis
HDL's parents
Message 388 -
2003-03-28 at 17:26:35
> Who said? Can't their father be dead in war?
Not in the context of this discussion, which began with the suggestion
that HD&L's parents may have gone abroad to work on some worthy cause,
leaving their children behind.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Just remember what curiosity did to the cat."
"Why do you think they have nine lives? And why do you think Time Lords have
twelve?"
-----
Not in the context of this discussion, which began with the suggestion
that HD&L's parents may have gone abroad to work on some worthy cause,
leaving their children behind.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Just remember what curiosity did to the cat."
"Why do you think they have nine lives? And why do you think Time Lords have
twelve?"
-----
Bernard Slaa
Grandma's aunt Klazien
Message 389 -
2003-03-28 at 17:28:39
> I made researches on INDUCKS, and the story seems to
> be "How Grandma Got It",
> H21178, from DD2002-36:
>
> http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/H+21178
>
> If anyone could provide scans of the four
> characters, or at least check if
> this is the good story, that'd be very nice of
> him...
> Thanks,
> Gilles
Hi Gilles,
It's the right story and I've it in my possesion.
Grandma's aunt was Klazien. She searched, when she was
young, a job and finally came by the farm of the
family Trouwhart (Goodheart). The son of the owners of
that farm, Bertus falls in love with here. So the
other two persons in the comic are *not Klazien's
parents but of Bertus. Finally, at the end of the
story they get married but Bertus was lost after he
made with his friends a journey around the world. So,
because of Grandma was the closest relative, she got
the farm later.
I think I could provide you with scans of the four
persons, but the parents of Bertus Trouwhart don't
have a name.
Greetings Bernard
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> be "How Grandma Got It",
> H21178, from DD2002-36:
>
> http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/H+21178
>
> If anyone could provide scans of the four
> characters, or at least check if
> this is the good story, that'd be very nice of
> him...
> Thanks,
> Gilles
Hi Gilles,
It's the right story and I've it in my possesion.
Grandma's aunt was Klazien. She searched, when she was
young, a job and finally came by the farm of the
family Trouwhart (Goodheart). The son of the owners of
that farm, Bertus falls in love with here. So the
other two persons in the comic are *not Klazien's
parents but of Bertus. Finally, at the end of the
story they get married but Bertus was lost after he
made with his friends a journey around the world. So,
because of Grandma was the closest relative, she got
the farm later.
I think I could provide you with scans of the four
persons, but the parents of Bertus Trouwhart don't
have a name.
Greetings Bernard
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Everything you'll ever need on one web page
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Donald's parents
Message 390 -
2003-03-28 at 19:30:35
Sigvald said:
<<Hi all! the discussing concerning HD&Ls parents have made me
<<remember a still unanswered question I once sent to DCML. In Lo$
<<part 10 - "The Invader of Fort Duckburg" (1902) Donald's parents
<<meets each other for the first time and fall in love. In Lo$ part 10b
<<- "The Sharpie of The Culebra Cut" (1906) both Donald's mother
<<and her sister Mathilda goes with Scrooge to Panama. Donald's
<<father is *not* mentioned at all. During this trip Donald's mother
<<shows as great interest for "cowboys" as before she met her later
<<husband Quackmore Duck. In Lo$ part 11 - "The Empire-Builder
<<from Calisota". Donald's parents are first engaged (1909) and then
<<married and with a family (1930). Can anyone this time please
<<explain Hortense's behavior in 1906 and why Quackmore is not
<<mentioned in that story? Sigvald :-)
I don?t see any problem here. In part 10, Hortense and Quackmore met.
They went out on a few dates. Perhaps they were even serious about
each other. Since the engagement isn?t mentioned until part 11,
there?s no reason to assume they have any committment to each other in
part 10b. For all we know, they had only gone out once or twice by
then, and there?d be no reason to mention Quackmore at all.
My two cents,
Mark Wright
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<<Hi all! the discussing concerning HD&Ls parents have made me
<<remember a still unanswered question I once sent to DCML. In Lo$
<<part 10 - "The Invader of Fort Duckburg" (1902) Donald's parents
<<meets each other for the first time and fall in love. In Lo$ part 10b
<<- "The Sharpie of The Culebra Cut" (1906) both Donald's mother
<<and her sister Mathilda goes with Scrooge to Panama. Donald's
<<father is *not* mentioned at all. During this trip Donald's mother
<<shows as great interest for "cowboys" as before she met her later
<<husband Quackmore Duck. In Lo$ part 11 - "The Empire-Builder
<<from Calisota". Donald's parents are first engaged (1909) and then
<<married and with a family (1930). Can anyone this time please
<<explain Hortense's behavior in 1906 and why Quackmore is not
<<mentioned in that story? Sigvald :-)
I don?t see any problem here. In part 10, Hortense and Quackmore met.
They went out on a few dates. Perhaps they were even serious about
each other. Since the engagement isn?t mentioned until part 11,
there?s no reason to assume they have any committment to each other in
part 10b. For all we know, they had only gone out once or twice by
then, and there?d be no reason to mention Quackmore at all.
My two cents,
Mark Wright
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