Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
> Can anyone this time please explain Hortense's behavior in 1906 and why
> Quackmore is not mentioned in that story?
Maybe they are having a similar relationship that Daisy has with Donald
(and Gladstone). They are dating but seeing other people as well. (How
modern! One could write an interesting essay about that). Donald seems
to look at other women whenever Daisy isn?t around. Daisy himself is
dating both Gladstone and Donald.
Same goes with that another thread about HD&L's parents. These
characters are not ideal examples in moral standards. So they prefer
adventuring (or whatnot Don has in mind) to parenting. Those were
horrible kids at first, who wouldn't want to get out and take a
(long)holiday? Then something happened and they could never come back.
Donald put the kids to shape and now they are respectable junior
woodchucks. Maybe real parents weren't doing such a good job and Donald
was better for them since he teached them to take responsibility (since
he himself is far for perfect).
This is a comic book world, its not about setting an example or teaching
kids how to be good parents and or how to properly date (not directly,
anyway). Those things are all well and good, but they would make boring
stories. Well, you *could* write good stories, but it would surely limit
the scope of what the stories could be about.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Author
Topic: 200303
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Kai Saarto
Donald's parents and HD&L parents
Message 391 -
2003-03-28 at 20:00:10
KUR
"Live Action" Duck Movie
Message 392 -
2003-03-28 at 20:14:25
I olsow houp that one thay Disney woud make a ,,Duck - Movi" bot a movi like
in "Roger Rabit".
You now some Charecter like the Beagle Boys woud be pley by real Actors &
Donld, Scrooge, Huey Duey & Luey, Gyro and aderss woud be pley by 3D
charecters. But actualy I see the movi Scrit more based with Don Rosa storys
than Barks.
Yours
Maciek
PS
Sorry for my bad Englesh.
in "Roger Rabit".
You now some Charecter like the Beagle Boys woud be pley by real Actors &
Donld, Scrooge, Huey Duey & Luey, Gyro and aderss woud be pley by 3D
charecters. But actualy I see the movi Scrit more based with Don Rosa storys
than Barks.
Yours
Maciek
PS
Sorry for my bad Englesh.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
HDL's parents
Message 393 -
2003-03-28 at 20:31:48
Mickey <mickey at iol.it> wrote:
> True, but the point is that HD&L did not lose
> their parents in the war.
>
> Who said? Can't their father be dead in war?
Al Taliaferro did. I think the "legend" is that HD&L was sent to Donald
because they tid fire a firecracker underneath their father's chair, and
that their father had nerve promblems afterwards".
Even though Taliaferro came up with that story as early as in 1937, it must
have happened many years later as HD&L are said to be born around 1940. So
let's say it happened during the very late fase of WW2 or shortly after the
war. It is thus possible to imagine that their fathers very hard reaction
after the blow of the firecracker underneath his chair can be explained by a
post war stress syndrom caused by a previous participation in WW2.
Sigvald :-)
> True, but the point is that HD&L did not lose
> their parents in the war.
>
> Who said? Can't their father be dead in war?
Al Taliaferro did. I think the "legend" is that HD&L was sent to Donald
because they tid fire a firecracker underneath their father's chair, and
that their father had nerve promblems afterwards".
Even though Taliaferro came up with that story as early as in 1937, it must
have happened many years later as HD&L are said to be born around 1940. So
let's say it happened during the very late fase of WW2 or shortly after the
war. It is thus possible to imagine that their fathers very hard reaction
after the blow of the firecracker underneath his chair can be explained by a
post war stress syndrom caused by a previous participation in WW2.
Sigvald :-)
Mas
Extended Lo$?
Message 394 -
2003-03-28 at 20:35:42
At 07:07 PM 28-03-03 +0100, Don Rosa wrote:
>What's difficult to understand here?
What I'd like to know is - does Gemstone have any plans to reprint an
extended version of Don's "Life of Scrooge" series with all of the "b"
chapters chronologically inserted?
- M
>What's difficult to understand here?
What I'd like to know is - does Gemstone have any plans to reprint an
extended version of Don's "Life of Scrooge" series with all of the "b"
chapters chronologically inserted?
- M
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Donald's parents
Message 395 -
2003-03-28 at 20:49:05
Kai Saarto <ksaarto at mbnet.fi> wrote:
Daisy himself...
Usually I never comments other peoples typhos here on DCML, so I hope that
Kai Saarto forgives me when I mention that when speaking about females in
English one uses words as:
she *not* he
her *not* him
her *not* his
herself *not* himself
Sigvald :-)
Daisy himself...
Usually I never comments other peoples typhos here on DCML, so I hope that
Kai Saarto forgives me when I mention that when speaking about females in
English one uses words as:
she *not* he
her *not* him
her *not* his
herself *not* himself
Sigvald :-)
Kai Saarto
Donald's parents
Message 396 -
2003-03-28 at 20:56:13
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
> Kai Saarto <ksaarto at mbnet.fi> wrote:
>
> Daisy himself...
>
> Usually I never comments other peoples typhos here on DCML, so I hope that
> Kai Saarto forgives me when I mention that when speaking about females in
Krhm. Sorry about that. Daisy is most feminine. I know the difference,
but I just happened to botch.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
> Kai Saarto <ksaarto at mbnet.fi> wrote:
>
> Daisy himself...
>
> Usually I never comments other peoples typhos here on DCML, so I hope that
> Kai Saarto forgives me when I mention that when speaking about females in
Krhm. Sorry about that. Daisy is most feminine. I know the difference,
but I just happened to botch.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Stefan Persson
Donald's parents
Message 397 -
2003-03-28 at 21:01:05
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
> Usually I never comments other peoples typhos here on DCML, so I hope that
> Kai Saarto forgives me when I mention that when speaking about females in
> English one uses words as:
> she *not* he
> her *not* him
> her *not* his
> herself *not* himself
I often comment other people's typos here on DCML, so I hope that Sigvald Gr?sfjeld forgives me when I mention that when speaking English one uses grammar such as "I comment" (not "I comments") and spelling such as "typo" (not "typho").
Stefan :-)
> Usually I never comments other peoples typhos here on DCML, so I hope that
> Kai Saarto forgives me when I mention that when speaking about females in
> English one uses words as:
> she *not* he
> her *not* him
> her *not* his
> herself *not* himself
I often comment other people's typos here on DCML, so I hope that Sigvald Gr?sfjeld forgives me when I mention that when speaking English one uses grammar such as "I comment" (not "I comments") and spelling such as "typo" (not "typho").
Stefan :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Grandma's aunt Klazien
Message 398 -
2003-03-28 at 21:18:45
Bernard Slaa <slaab14 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> It's the right story and I've it in my
> possesion. Grandma's aunt was Klazien. She
> searched, when she was young, a job and finally
> came by the farm of the family Trouwhart
> (Goodheart). The son of the owners of
> that farm, Bertus falls in love with here.
> So the other two persons in the comic are
> *not Klazien's parents but of Bertus. Finally,
> at the end of the story they get married but
> Bertus was lost after he made with his friends
> a journey around the world. So, because of
> Grandma was the closest relative, she got
> the farm later.
IMO this looks like fiction.
Let's instead look at the present known facts:
Grandma Duck is a Coot. Her family came to Duckburg in 1818. She's born in
Duckburg. So however she ended up in her farm, she didn't have to travel far
to get there.
When i did my WEB-page about Grandma's husband Humperdink Duck
C:\Duckman\characters\humperd.html
I asked Don Rosa about this. He then said that it was Grandma Duck's family,
the Coots, who owned the farm before Humperdink and Grandma took over -as
the Coots owned most of the farmlands around Duckburg before Scrooge's
appearance in 1902.
Sigvald :-)
> It's the right story and I've it in my
> possesion. Grandma's aunt was Klazien. She
> searched, when she was young, a job and finally
> came by the farm of the family Trouwhart
> (Goodheart). The son of the owners of
> that farm, Bertus falls in love with here.
> So the other two persons in the comic are
> *not Klazien's parents but of Bertus. Finally,
> at the end of the story they get married but
> Bertus was lost after he made with his friends
> a journey around the world. So, because of
> Grandma was the closest relative, she got
> the farm later.
IMO this looks like fiction.
Let's instead look at the present known facts:
Grandma Duck is a Coot. Her family came to Duckburg in 1818. She's born in
Duckburg. So however she ended up in her farm, she didn't have to travel far
to get there.
When i did my WEB-page about Grandma's husband Humperdink Duck
C:\Duckman\characters\humperd.html
I asked Don Rosa about this. He then said that it was Grandma Duck's family,
the Coots, who owned the farm before Humperdink and Grandma took over -as
the Coots owned most of the farmlands around Duckburg before Scrooge's
appearance in 1902.
Sigvald :-)
Luca Boschi
Humperdink Duck's first appearance
Message 399 -
2003-03-28 at 21:52:03
Hello!
> In a message dated Sat, 19 Jan 2002 00:28:20 -0500, Don Rosa wrote:
>>>> I checked my old research notes for the "Lo$" and I see it was in WDC&S
>>>> #121, which I think was the very first Grandma Duck comic book story.
>>>> Another issue in that same range had the name of her deceased husband,
>>>> Humperdink Duck, in another scrapbook scene... but it was David who told me
>>>> about that so perhaps he recalls that issue #.
>
> Is there a chance that it is Bob Moore's untitled W OS 353-01 (November 1951)
No, it's a Bill Wright's story: "Grandma Duck", in Vacation Parade #2, July
1951 (in Italy in TL n. 32, Dec. 1951).
Luca
> In a message dated Sat, 19 Jan 2002 00:28:20 -0500, Don Rosa wrote:
>>>> I checked my old research notes for the "Lo$" and I see it was in WDC&S
>>>> #121, which I think was the very first Grandma Duck comic book story.
>>>> Another issue in that same range had the name of her deceased husband,
>>>> Humperdink Duck, in another scrapbook scene... but it was David who told me
>>>> about that so perhaps he recalls that issue #.
>
> Is there a chance that it is Bob Moore's untitled W OS 353-01 (November 1951)
No, it's a Bill Wright's story: "Grandma Duck", in Vacation Parade #2, July
1951 (in Italy in TL n. 32, Dec. 1951).
Luca
Goofy313g
Humperdink Duck's first appearance
Message 400 -
2003-03-29 at 02:35:20
>>>No, it's a Bill Wright's story: "Grandma Duck", in
>>> Vacation Parade #2, July
>>>1951 (in Italy in TL n. 32, Dec. 1951).
really? I thought the one you just said was an appearance of the Grandpa Duck from the cartoon "No Hunting" (according to Rich's pages) This woulkd make sense : if the grandpa from no hunting appeared, that could be a reason why giovan battista carpi included him in his duck family tree
and as the inducks description of the moore story was " GD shows the family album to two kids" and Don Rosa told it was a scrapbook scene, I thought it could be the one with Humperdink... Moreover, It was supposed to be a wdc story...
Gilles
>>> Vacation Parade #2, July
>>>1951 (in Italy in TL n. 32, Dec. 1951).
really? I thought the one you just said was an appearance of the Grandpa Duck from the cartoon "No Hunting" (according to Rich's pages) This woulkd make sense : if the grandpa from no hunting appeared, that could be a reason why giovan battista carpi included him in his duck family tree
and as the inducks description of the moore story was " GD shows the family album to two kids" and Don Rosa told it was a scrapbook scene, I thought it could be the one with Humperdink... Moreover, It was supposed to be a wdc story...
Gilles
Goofy313g
Calisota Online is updated
Message 401 -
2003-03-29 at 02:51:34
Hi!
Calisota Online has been updated yesterday:
I finished the Duck Family Tree
I added Clarabelle Cow's father to her family tree
I added: Blasco Pisapia's maps published in Topolino,
a great map with Barks references by Marovelli, a new page about Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree, a phylogenetic tree of Mickey Mouse, and I updated most of the pages from the trees and maps sections...
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/
Gilles
Calisota Online has been updated yesterday:
I finished the Duck Family Tree
I added Clarabelle Cow's father to her family tree
I added: Blasco Pisapia's maps published in Topolino,
a great map with Barks references by Marovelli, a new page about Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree, a phylogenetic tree of Mickey Mouse, and I updated most of the pages from the trees and maps sections...
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/
Gilles
Stefan Persson
Grandma's aunt Klazien
Message 402 -
2003-03-29 at 12:48:16
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>When i did my WEB-page about Grandma's husband Humperdink Duck
>C:\Duckman\characters\humperd.html
>
>
I fear that no one apart from you is able to browse web pages on your
hard disk...
Stefan
>When i did my WEB-page about Grandma's husband Humperdink Duck
>C:\Duckman\characters\humperd.html
>
>
I fear that no one apart from you is able to browse web pages on your
hard disk...
Stefan
Claudio Eckert
One year "Page 42"
Message 403 -
2003-03-29 at 12:59:20
Today I celebrate the first "birthday" of http://www.seite42.de and I'd like
to invite you to have a look. Meanwhile there are 150 vintage paper models
and games from German weekly "Micky Maus" available for download.
I'd like to thank all who helped me with the collection by providing scans
and Søren Krarup Olesen who kindly gave the site a new home at inducks.org!
Thank you!
Claudio
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to invite you to have a look. Meanwhile there are 150 vintage paper models
and games from German weekly "Micky Maus" available for download.
I'd like to thank all who helped me with the collection by providing scans
and Søren Krarup Olesen who kindly gave the site a new home at inducks.org!
Thank you!
Claudio
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Frank Bubacz
Teaming of Mickey and Goofy
Message 404 -
2003-03-29 at 17:27:06
Hi,
Floyd Gottfredson is famed for adapting Mickey and his friends to the comic
strip medium, enriching their personalities, effectively combining comedy
with adventure, introducing essential characters like Chief O'Hara, The Blot
and Eega Beeva, being highly influential in general, etc.,
but.......................... has he (and I certainly don't want to forget
his writers) ever been given credit for teaming Mickey with Goofy??
Since I first read, or better: watched the pictures of the first comics I
owned as a kid, there always had been the team of Mickey and Goofy. They
seemed to be as inseparable as, say, Donald and his nephews. Or Laurel and
Hardy for that matter. It seemed it had always been that way. I only
discovered very recently that the twosome NEVER had been a duo in the
classic Disney shorts of the 30s, 40s and 50s. Here it was always either the
whole gang, the trio of Mickey, Donald and Goofy, or maybe a cameo, but no
hint whatsoever of a proper duo. Call me slow, but I really was surprised
when I finally noticed. :-)
So the teaming was a development of the comics. As there was hardly any
other artist dealing with the mouse universe up until 1939, when Manuel
Gonzales took over the MM Sunday page, I attribute the creation of the duo
to Gottfredson and his authors. Sadly, apart from the odd story here and
there, I am not familiar with Gottfredson's work. INDUCKS helped me to find
out which of his stories included Goofy, but it couldn't tell me where he
accompanies Mickey throughout a whole adventure or where he only has a
smaller guest appearance. So I have a few questions for our experts.
When do you reckon did the duo of Mickey and Goofy start "officially"? When
did it become the rule, rather than the exception? Did the teaming happen
accidentally, i.e. Gottfredson wasn't allowed to use Donald anymore (as in
Editor-In-Grief and others), because DD got his own strip? When did the
detective element come in? Can we attribute it to Gottfredson or was it
other artists/writers (Murry? Guido Martina?) who made it popular?
Too many questions really (or maybe too stupid questions) to even expect one
reply, I guess... You have to forgive me, but I am just rediscovering MM
after a long period in which I really only cared for Barks, as far as Disney
comics are concerned.
Nice to be back,
Frank
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Floyd Gottfredson is famed for adapting Mickey and his friends to the comic
strip medium, enriching their personalities, effectively combining comedy
with adventure, introducing essential characters like Chief O'Hara, The Blot
and Eega Beeva, being highly influential in general, etc.,
but.......................... has he (and I certainly don't want to forget
his writers) ever been given credit for teaming Mickey with Goofy??
Since I first read, or better: watched the pictures of the first comics I
owned as a kid, there always had been the team of Mickey and Goofy. They
seemed to be as inseparable as, say, Donald and his nephews. Or Laurel and
Hardy for that matter. It seemed it had always been that way. I only
discovered very recently that the twosome NEVER had been a duo in the
classic Disney shorts of the 30s, 40s and 50s. Here it was always either the
whole gang, the trio of Mickey, Donald and Goofy, or maybe a cameo, but no
hint whatsoever of a proper duo. Call me slow, but I really was surprised
when I finally noticed. :-)
So the teaming was a development of the comics. As there was hardly any
other artist dealing with the mouse universe up until 1939, when Manuel
Gonzales took over the MM Sunday page, I attribute the creation of the duo
to Gottfredson and his authors. Sadly, apart from the odd story here and
there, I am not familiar with Gottfredson's work. INDUCKS helped me to find
out which of his stories included Goofy, but it couldn't tell me where he
accompanies Mickey throughout a whole adventure or where he only has a
smaller guest appearance. So I have a few questions for our experts.
When do you reckon did the duo of Mickey and Goofy start "officially"? When
did it become the rule, rather than the exception? Did the teaming happen
accidentally, i.e. Gottfredson wasn't allowed to use Donald anymore (as in
Editor-In-Grief and others), because DD got his own strip? When did the
detective element come in? Can we attribute it to Gottfredson or was it
other artists/writers (Murry? Guido Martina?) who made it popular?
Too many questions really (or maybe too stupid questions) to even expect one
reply, I guess... You have to forgive me, but I am just rediscovering MM
after a long period in which I really only cared for Barks, as far as Disney
comics are concerned.
Nice to be back,
Frank
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First Disney comics in Germany
Message 405 -
2003-03-29 at 17:51:39
Luca asked:
So, when do the first MM story/strip was published in Germany, in newspapers
or magazines?
Cord replied:
[...]"Micky Maus Zeitung"[...]
[...]first issue of "Micky Maus" from 1951[...]
I knew about these, but do you really want to tell us there haven't been any
MM newspaper strips in Germany in the 30s? If that's true it is quite
surprising...
Frank
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So, when do the first MM story/strip was published in Germany, in newspapers
or magazines?
Cord replied:
[...]"Micky Maus Zeitung"[...]
[...]first issue of "Micky Maus" from 1951[...]
I knew about these, but do you really want to tell us there haven't been any
MM newspaper strips in Germany in the 30s? If that's true it is quite
surprising...
Frank
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