Sigvald:
> There might however be a risk that many Europeans
> won't see the Gemstone productions due to some stupid
> protectionist laws within the EU.
I have never had any problem getting my USA comics in my usual Amsterdam shop ("Wonderland").
I already ordered the new Gemstone comics there, and there is no indication at all that I won't get them.
--Harry.
Author
Topic: 200303
(442 messages)
H.W.Fluks
Stupid? (Gemstone and Europe)
Message 196 -
2003-03-18 at 19:03:27
Kai Saarto
Naples report (photos)
Message 197 -
2003-03-18 at 19:04:24
H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl wrote:
>
> http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/p03-01.html
>
> I added some texts to the photos, as well as the report I posted here last week.
Excellent stuff Harry, thank you! Maybe Don could tell us more about
what happened there? It sure looked fun, wish I could have been there.
Don, did you possibly get any ideas of using Pompeii in duck-story? I'd
love to hear more, Harry's report whetted my appetite.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
>
> http://dd50.inducks.org/fotos/p03-01.html
>
> I added some texts to the photos, as well as the report I posted here last week.
Excellent stuff Harry, thank you! Maybe Don could tell us more about
what happened there? It sure looked fun, wish I could have been there.
Don, did you possibly get any ideas of using Pompeii in duck-story? I'd
love to hear more, Harry's report whetted my appetite.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Kai Saarto
Barks Conversations (on topic)
Message 198 -
2003-03-18 at 19:12:18
Vic Pratt wrote:
> While I'm on here waffling... is Donald Ault on this
> list? I just finished reading "Carl Barks
> Conversations"...it's a great book...good work! Worth
> the money for the excellent introduction
> alone...everybody on the list ought to buy a copy!
> Order it right now!
I must second that. I surely enjoyed reading it. Those last interviews
were quite heavy. Very elegantly done.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
> While I'm on here waffling... is Donald Ault on this
> list? I just finished reading "Carl Barks
> Conversations"...it's a great book...good work! Worth
> the money for the excellent introduction
> alone...everybody on the list ought to buy a copy!
> Order it right now!
I must second that. I surely enjoyed reading it. Those last interviews
were quite heavy. Very elegantly done.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Stefan Persson
Gemstone and Europe
Message 199 -
2003-03-18 at 19:38:13
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>There might however be a risk that many Europeans
>won't see the Gemstone productions due to some stupid protectionist laws
>within the EU.
>
That is a Danish law; importing comics to any other European country is
still possible.
Stefan
>There might however be a risk that many Europeans
>won't see the Gemstone productions due to some stupid protectionist laws
>within the EU.
>
That is a Danish law; importing comics to any other European country is
still possible.
Stefan
Kai Saarto
Don Rosa and Picsou
Message 200 -
2003-03-18 at 19:38:58
[Goofy313g at aol.com wondered if Picsou could publish Rosa-stories about
subjects like HDL's parents that are "banned" in Egmont.]
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. replied:
> There are at least two reasons Don Rosa might not want to work for
> Picsou right now:
>
> 1) The old editor of Picsou, apparently a friend of his, was replaced
> with people who seems to give a damn about his work. The pin-ups are
> gone, and they printed the wrong version of "Gyro's First Invention".
Really? I think the old editor is still there. Please tell me if I?m wrong.
As most of publishers makes those errors with stories every now and
then, I?m sure Don will not start to punish anyone because of that. He
or any other artist/writer could not work for anybody with that kind of
mentality. To err is human.
> 2) The French are not very popular in the USA nowadays, as many
> Americans now apparently sees the French as Saddam Husseins "useful
> idiots".
I?m sure that Picsou people are not involved in their country?s
Iraq-policy. Nor that it would matter anyway, since Don is not the kind
of guy to let that type of issues to make any difference. (I?m not
judging the French policy here, I can certainly understand why they
would make such a choice, but lets not talk about politics here.)
> My guess is thus that Don Rosa for the time being, would prefer to
> Work for Gemstone before Picsou.
Don is probably thrilled at the opportunity to work for Gemstone as you
can guess. Gemstone is unfortunately just starting, so they might not be
in a position to buy whole new stories just now. They can make better
profits with older Rosa-stuff at first. Picsou might be in a better
position as would other non-Egmont publishers.
Still, since Don works slowly, he might want to consider who pays best
for his work, and that is Egmont. Makes more sense to me than any
political or staff-related reasons. There are bills to pay after all.
Oh, and I completely agree with you about it being only Egmont?s policy
to not use HDL?s parents etc. Picsou and others could certainly use such
a story if they wanted.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
subjects like HDL's parents that are "banned" in Egmont.]
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. replied:
> There are at least two reasons Don Rosa might not want to work for
> Picsou right now:
>
> 1) The old editor of Picsou, apparently a friend of his, was replaced
> with people who seems to give a damn about his work. The pin-ups are
> gone, and they printed the wrong version of "Gyro's First Invention".
Really? I think the old editor is still there. Please tell me if I?m wrong.
As most of publishers makes those errors with stories every now and
then, I?m sure Don will not start to punish anyone because of that. He
or any other artist/writer could not work for anybody with that kind of
mentality. To err is human.
> 2) The French are not very popular in the USA nowadays, as many
> Americans now apparently sees the French as Saddam Husseins "useful
> idiots".
I?m sure that Picsou people are not involved in their country?s
Iraq-policy. Nor that it would matter anyway, since Don is not the kind
of guy to let that type of issues to make any difference. (I?m not
judging the French policy here, I can certainly understand why they
would make such a choice, but lets not talk about politics here.)
> My guess is thus that Don Rosa for the time being, would prefer to
> Work for Gemstone before Picsou.
Don is probably thrilled at the opportunity to work for Gemstone as you
can guess. Gemstone is unfortunately just starting, so they might not be
in a position to buy whole new stories just now. They can make better
profits with older Rosa-stuff at first. Picsou might be in a better
position as would other non-Egmont publishers.
Still, since Don works slowly, he might want to consider who pays best
for his work, and that is Egmont. Makes more sense to me than any
political or staff-related reasons. There are bills to pay after all.
Oh, and I completely agree with you about it being only Egmont?s policy
to not use HDL?s parents etc. Picsou and others could certainly use such
a story if they wanted.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Kai Saarto
Stupid? (Gemstone and Europe)
Message 201 -
2003-03-18 at 19:42:37
H.W.Fluks at telecom.tno.nl wrote:
> Sigvald:
>
>
>>There might however be a risk that many Europeans
>>won't see the Gemstone productions due to some stupid
>>protectionist laws within the EU.
>
>
> I have never had any problem getting my USA comics in my usual Amsterdam shop ("Wonderland").
> I already ordered the new Gemstone comics there, and there is no indication at all that I won't get them.
I hope you are right, Harry. Sigvald has a point though, Gladstone run
into troubles just because they sold so much overseas (at least thats
what I?ve heard).
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
> Sigvald:
>
>
>>There might however be a risk that many Europeans
>>won't see the Gemstone productions due to some stupid
>>protectionist laws within the EU.
>
>
> I have never had any problem getting my USA comics in my usual Amsterdam shop ("Wonderland").
> I already ordered the new Gemstone comics there, and there is no indication at all that I won't get them.
I hope you are right, Harry. Sigvald has a point though, Gladstone run
into troubles just because they sold so much overseas (at least thats
what I?ve heard).
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
L. Schulte
William Van Horn
Message 202 -
2003-03-18 at 22:03:48
Concerning William Van Horn's stories: I at first was not too appreciative
of his stories or of the "zany" art style. But his later stories for
Gladstone became better, and in fact the last one he did for Gladstone US
#318 called "Secrets" with Scrooge's half-brother Rumpus was classic.
I assume he is working like Don Rosa for Egmont: not too many posts here
mention his stories. I thought he was in his 60's, so he might be retiring
or has already retired (?).
of his stories or of the "zany" art style. But his later stories for
Gladstone became better, and in fact the last one he did for Gladstone US
#318 called "Secrets" with Scrooge's half-brother Rumpus was classic.
I assume he is working like Don Rosa for Egmont: not too many posts here
mention his stories. I thought he was in his 60's, so he might be retiring
or has already retired (?).
Danehog
Possible Disney "Guest" Artists
Message 203 -
2003-03-18 at 23:07:08
In a message dated 3/18/2003 7:39:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,
eega at supereva.it writes:
> Dave Sim would be great, imagine a Donald Duck vs. Cerebus story...
> or the Hernandez bros. doing a punk Grandma Duck... :-)
I don't know about a Cerebus/Donald crossover concept, but I can definitely
see Dave Sim doing a "regular" Disney comic book story. Although "Cerebus"
has been completely drama-driven lately, the book has proven that it can be
light-hearted and intelligent also.
Light-hearted and intelligent stories are what Disney comics are all about,
if you ask me!
> But if Gemstone (or any publisher at that) would really try
> with this idea of "Guest Stars" (which I find quite intriguing),
> the very first name I would like to see invited is that of
> Will Eisner. I'm sure he could do a "serious" Mickey and/or
> a pretty convincing Scrooge.
>
Really? I'm a Will Eisner fan, but I just can't see him doing "funny animal"
stories. I'm sure he could do a Disney story, as I think he can work with
pretty much anything, but right now, I can't see him doing anything for
Disney. I mean, look at, say, "The Spirit," or "Heart of the Storm"--Disney
is such a big jump from that.
Eisner's work is always done "diversely," but almost all of his books have a
prominent style that I can't see working with the Disney Ducks.
But you never know!
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
eega at supereva.it writes:
> Dave Sim would be great, imagine a Donald Duck vs. Cerebus story...
> or the Hernandez bros. doing a punk Grandma Duck... :-)
I don't know about a Cerebus/Donald crossover concept, but I can definitely
see Dave Sim doing a "regular" Disney comic book story. Although "Cerebus"
has been completely drama-driven lately, the book has proven that it can be
light-hearted and intelligent also.
Light-hearted and intelligent stories are what Disney comics are all about,
if you ask me!
> But if Gemstone (or any publisher at that) would really try
> with this idea of "Guest Stars" (which I find quite intriguing),
> the very first name I would like to see invited is that of
> Will Eisner. I'm sure he could do a "serious" Mickey and/or
> a pretty convincing Scrooge.
>
Really? I'm a Will Eisner fan, but I just can't see him doing "funny animal"
stories. I'm sure he could do a Disney story, as I think he can work with
pretty much anything, but right now, I can't see him doing anything for
Disney. I mean, look at, say, "The Spirit," or "Heart of the Storm"--Disney
is such a big jump from that.
Eisner's work is always done "diversely," but almost all of his books have a
prominent style that I can't see working with the Disney Ducks.
But you never know!
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
Danehog
Possible Disney "Guest" Artists
Message 204 -
2003-03-18 at 23:09:48
(Sorry if this posts twice.)
In a message dated 3/18/2003 7:39:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,
eega at supereva.it writes:
> Dave Sim would be great, imagine a Donald Duck vs. Cerebus story...
> or the Hernandez bros. doing a punk Grandma Duck... :-)
I don't know about a Cerebus/Donald crossover concept, but I can definitely
see Dave Sim doing a "regular" Disney comic book story. Although "Cerebus"
has been completely drama-driven lately, the book has proven that it can be
light-hearted and intelligent also.
Light-hearted and intelligent stories are what Disney comics are all about,
if you ask me!
> But if Gemstone (or any publisher at that) would really try
> with this idea of "Guest Stars" (which I find quite intriguing),
> the very first name I would like to see invited is that of
> Will Eisner. I'm sure he could do a "serious" Mickey and/or
> a pretty convincing Scrooge.
Really? I'm a Will Eisner fan, but I just can't see him doing "funny animal"
stories. I'm sure he could do a Disney story, as I think he can work with
pretty much anything, but right now, I can't see him doing anything for
Disney. I mean, look at, say, "The Spirit," or "Heart of the Storm"--Disney
is such a big jump from that.
Eisner's work is always done "diversely," but almost all of his books have a
prominent style that I can't see working with the Disney Ducks.
But you never know!
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
In a message dated 3/18/2003 7:39:15 AM Eastern Standard Time,
eega at supereva.it writes:
> Dave Sim would be great, imagine a Donald Duck vs. Cerebus story...
> or the Hernandez bros. doing a punk Grandma Duck... :-)
I don't know about a Cerebus/Donald crossover concept, but I can definitely
see Dave Sim doing a "regular" Disney comic book story. Although "Cerebus"
has been completely drama-driven lately, the book has proven that it can be
light-hearted and intelligent also.
Light-hearted and intelligent stories are what Disney comics are all about,
if you ask me!
> But if Gemstone (or any publisher at that) would really try
> with this idea of "Guest Stars" (which I find quite intriguing),
> the very first name I would like to see invited is that of
> Will Eisner. I'm sure he could do a "serious" Mickey and/or
> a pretty convincing Scrooge.
Really? I'm a Will Eisner fan, but I just can't see him doing "funny animal"
stories. I'm sure he could do a Disney story, as I think he can work with
pretty much anything, but right now, I can't see him doing anything for
Disney. I mean, look at, say, "The Spirit," or "Heart of the Storm"--Disney
is such a big jump from that.
Eisner's work is always done "diversely," but almost all of his books have a
prominent style that I can't see working with the Disney Ducks.
But you never know!
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
Goofy313g
Saddam Hussein's "useful idiot" (couldn't be more off-topic, sorry,
Message 205 -
2003-03-18 at 23:28:44
Hi!
Posting off-topic series of messages kind of became a
tradition here, but we didn't seem to have our little
discussion about our friends the viruses and such like,
so I'm seizing the opportunity to inaugurate mine :-)
SIGVALD:
>>>2) The French are not very popular in the USA
>>>nowadays, as many Americans now apparently
>>>sees the French as Saddam Husseins "useful
>>>idiots".
Well, little Sigvald, equal to himself, nothing gives you the
right to insult me and my country,
you have your opinion, and I have mine, and it seems that I'm
against war, as most of the French
people are, and I haven't respected my president
(who is not-so-perfect, I know, but I think he
is able to both eat a bretzel and stay alive), as much as I
do now that I know he won't help the
USA if the war comes. We all know that if this war happens,
lots of innocents, men, women, old men,
children and babies will die, so I wonder how it's possible
that some people still think this f***ing
war is a good thing. Well, anyway, everyone is free to think
what he wants, it's not our business, here
on dcml. Everyone should think the way he wants, and this
leads us to that much more important point :
Sigvald, what gives you the right to talk about such a
delicate issue on Don Rosa's behalf?! This is very
grave to do this, Sigvald. What makes you think that Don Rosa
is pro war or against war? It's not of our
business, anyway. If Don Rosa wants to talk about this, he is
free to do so, but anyway, he more than probably
didn't even want to discuss on this here, and nobody wanted,
even if this war is probably in everybody's mind
here, because it's not the apropriate place for this.
YOU were the first to speak about this, and to insult me,
and why? Because I asked Don Rosa (not you!) if he would work
with France again. Really, I don't understand
what the hell is the common point between [Don Rosa's
business with Picsou] and [President Chirac and the war in
Irak]. This reflection must come from an ill brain! Did you
really think Don Rosa didn't want to work with Picsou
because of Jacques Chirac (who, by the way, isn't the new
editor of Picsou Magazine) and his involvement in the
war? This is almost racism, Sigvald, and it's grave, do you
think a reader of Picsou Magazine, pro or against war,
has anything to do with what is happening today? And anyway,
if it was the case, if Don Rosa didn't want to work
with Picsou because of these stupid irrelevant reasons, it's
his business and he's free to keep his opinion
secret, or to develop it and for that, he doesn't need
an "useful idiot". So you're not even insulting me and my
country, and all the other thousands of people who are
against a possible war, but also Don Rosa himself (well, I
guess you're more hurt by this argument that any other
argument quoted here) ! ! !
Sigvald, please think before you write or tell something,
that's the way everybody does, because consequencies can
be important.
But well, I hope all this is nothing but a misunderstanding,
or, if it's not, that I will have some excuses or
some explanations, but, if no, i'm afraid this could have
consequencies on our friendship...
Please, don't answer to this mail, Sigvald, or at least do it
privately, not to bother other dcmailers...
Gilles Maurice, proud of his country :-)
Posting off-topic series of messages kind of became a
tradition here, but we didn't seem to have our little
discussion about our friends the viruses and such like,
so I'm seizing the opportunity to inaugurate mine :-)
SIGVALD:
>>>2) The French are not very popular in the USA
>>>nowadays, as many Americans now apparently
>>>sees the French as Saddam Husseins "useful
>>>idiots".
Well, little Sigvald, equal to himself, nothing gives you the
right to insult me and my country,
you have your opinion, and I have mine, and it seems that I'm
against war, as most of the French
people are, and I haven't respected my president
(who is not-so-perfect, I know, but I think he
is able to both eat a bretzel and stay alive), as much as I
do now that I know he won't help the
USA if the war comes. We all know that if this war happens,
lots of innocents, men, women, old men,
children and babies will die, so I wonder how it's possible
that some people still think this f***ing
war is a good thing. Well, anyway, everyone is free to think
what he wants, it's not our business, here
on dcml. Everyone should think the way he wants, and this
leads us to that much more important point :
Sigvald, what gives you the right to talk about such a
delicate issue on Don Rosa's behalf?! This is very
grave to do this, Sigvald. What makes you think that Don Rosa
is pro war or against war? It's not of our
business, anyway. If Don Rosa wants to talk about this, he is
free to do so, but anyway, he more than probably
didn't even want to discuss on this here, and nobody wanted,
even if this war is probably in everybody's mind
here, because it's not the apropriate place for this.
YOU were the first to speak about this, and to insult me,
and why? Because I asked Don Rosa (not you!) if he would work
with France again. Really, I don't understand
what the hell is the common point between [Don Rosa's
business with Picsou] and [President Chirac and the war in
Irak]. This reflection must come from an ill brain! Did you
really think Don Rosa didn't want to work with Picsou
because of Jacques Chirac (who, by the way, isn't the new
editor of Picsou Magazine) and his involvement in the
war? This is almost racism, Sigvald, and it's grave, do you
think a reader of Picsou Magazine, pro or against war,
has anything to do with what is happening today? And anyway,
if it was the case, if Don Rosa didn't want to work
with Picsou because of these stupid irrelevant reasons, it's
his business and he's free to keep his opinion
secret, or to develop it and for that, he doesn't need
an "useful idiot". So you're not even insulting me and my
country, and all the other thousands of people who are
against a possible war, but also Don Rosa himself (well, I
guess you're more hurt by this argument that any other
argument quoted here) ! ! !
Sigvald, please think before you write or tell something,
that's the way everybody does, because consequencies can
be important.
But well, I hope all this is nothing but a misunderstanding,
or, if it's not, that I will have some excuses or
some explanations, but, if no, i'm afraid this could have
consequencies on our friendship...
Please, don't answer to this mail, Sigvald, or at least do it
privately, not to bother other dcmailers...
Gilles Maurice, proud of his country :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
William Van Horn
Message 206 -
2003-03-18 at 23:36:56
L. Schulte <lschulte at sfstoledo.org> wrote:
> First was not too appreciative of his stories
> or of the "zany" art style. But his
> later stories for Gladstone became better, and
> in fact the last one he did for Gladstone US
> #318 called "Secrets" with Scrooge's
> half-brother Rumpus was classic.
OK, this is it! This is definitive evidence that William Van Horn is *not*
as true a successor to Barks as Don Rosa. By introducing this so-called
half-brother of Scrooge in contradiction to Barks, Mr. Van Horn shows that
he doesn't really accept Barks' universe to the last letter.
Please notice that this is not any critics at all against Mr. Van Horn as a
great creator - I still think he is one of the absolute best. This is only a
friendly comment to those here who have from time to time stated that they
see Van Horn as a successor to Barks as much as Don Rosa.
Sigvald :-)
> First was not too appreciative of his stories
> or of the "zany" art style. But his
> later stories for Gladstone became better, and
> in fact the last one he did for Gladstone US
> #318 called "Secrets" with Scrooge's
> half-brother Rumpus was classic.
OK, this is it! This is definitive evidence that William Van Horn is *not*
as true a successor to Barks as Don Rosa. By introducing this so-called
half-brother of Scrooge in contradiction to Barks, Mr. Van Horn shows that
he doesn't really accept Barks' universe to the last letter.
Please notice that this is not any critics at all against Mr. Van Horn as a
great creator - I still think he is one of the absolute best. This is only a
friendly comment to those here who have from time to time stated that they
see Van Horn as a successor to Barks as much as Don Rosa.
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
An apology our Dutch friends at DCML
Message 207 -
2003-03-18 at 23:59:58
Hi all - especially all Dutch readers!
Recently I had a comment about Harry's photo-collection that may be seen as
offensive towards Dutch people. My way of arguing was partly a follow-up to
Harry's arguing in a previous private mail. I am very sorry if any of you
Dutch has felt offended about this ? please accept my apology!
Sigvald :-)
Recently I had a comment about Harry's photo-collection that may be seen as
offensive towards Dutch people. My way of arguing was partly a follow-up to
Harry's arguing in a previous private mail. I am very sorry if any of you
Dutch has felt offended about this ? please accept my apology!
Sigvald :-)
SRoweCanoe
Possible Disney "Guest" Artists
Message 208 -
2003-03-19 at 00:02:06
In a message dated 3/18/2003 4:09:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, Danehog writes:
> don't know about a Cerebus/Donald crossover concept, but I can definitely see Dave Sim doing a "regular" Disney comic book story. Although "Cerebus" has been completely drama-driven lately, the book has proven that it can be light-hearted and intelligent also.
>
> Light-hearted and intelligent stories are what Disney
> comics are all about, if you ask me!
i really cant imagine the Dave Sim of 2003 to be able to write a light hearted and intelligent Disney story -- that Disney would allow to be published.....
Indeed as i think of Sim writing Disney, i get cold chills..... i would have to buy a copy --- but i just cant imagine it being done....
steven rowe
Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com
> don't know about a Cerebus/Donald crossover concept, but I can definitely see Dave Sim doing a "regular" Disney comic book story. Although "Cerebus" has been completely drama-driven lately, the book has proven that it can be light-hearted and intelligent also.
>
> Light-hearted and intelligent stories are what Disney
> comics are all about, if you ask me!
i really cant imagine the Dave Sim of 2003 to be able to write a light hearted and intelligent Disney story -- that Disney would allow to be published.....
Indeed as i think of Sim writing Disney, i get cold chills..... i would have to buy a copy --- but i just cant imagine it being done....
steven rowe
Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Saddam Hussein's "useful idiot" (couldn't be more off-topic,
Message 209 -
2003-03-19 at 01:00:35
Gilles Maurice <Goofy313g at aol.com> wrote:
>> The French are not very popular in the USA
>> nowadays, as many Americans now apparently
>> sees the French as Saddam Husseins "useful
>> idiots"
>
> Well, little Sigvald
This is normally *not* seen as a friendly way of addressing one's friends.
However I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I have often been
called "Lille Sigvald" by family and friends over the years ? my father
being "Store Sigvald" = "big Sigvald".
> Nothing gives you the right to insult me and
> my country,
And I didn't. I have *not* stated one single word about my own opinions
here, as I find that off-topic. I however am following US-media these days
so that I know what many Americans think about the French. Please remember
that referring other peoples views is *not* the same as referring your own
views.
> I do now that I know he won't help the USA
> if the war comes.
Do you? I have just read that Monsieur Chirac has said that France WILL aid
the US-forces *if* that guy in Bagdad uses Weapons of Mass Destruction
against the coalition forces.
> We all know that if this war happens, lots
> of innocents, men, women, old men, children
> and babies will die, so I wonder how it's
> possible that some people still think this
> f***ing war is a good thing.
I haven't heard anyone say it's a *good* thing. What some say is that it's
the less bad of only bad options. Some Americans have also said that the
French should remember D-Day (June 6th, 1944).
> Sigvald, what gives you the right to talk
> about such a delicate issue on Don Rosa's
> behalf?!
That was *never* my intention ? no way! I was doing analysis, not speaking
on other's behalf. Please remember that Don Rosa does not exist alone in the
Disney system. He thus may or may not, have to consider the opinions of
other Americans within the system, such as the people at Gemstone, Byron
Erickson, etc. As you said yourself ? this is a delicate matter, especially
for Americans.
> This is very grave to do this, Sigvald.
> What makes you think that Don Rosa
> is pro war or against war?
I have made no thoughts at all about Don Rosa's private thoughts about this.
That's his business, and *only* his business.
> If Don Rosa wants to talk about this, he is
> free to do so, but anyway, he more than
> probably didn't even want to discuss on this
> here, and nobody wanted, even if this war
> is probably in everybody's mind here, because
> it's not the appropriate place for this.
> YOU were the first to speak about this.
Just because it felt naturally as a part of the answer to the question I did
answer.
> And to insult me
I am indeed very sorry that you feel that way about my answer, that was
*not* my intention at all.
> and why? Because I asked Don Rosa (not you!)
> if he would work with France again.
Hey, that question was posted to DCML, open for everybody to comment.
> Really, I don't understand what the hell is
> the common point between [Don Rosa's business
> with Picsou] and [President Chirac and the war
> in Irak]. This reflection must come from an ill
> brain!
This is almost racism, Sigvald, and
> it's grave
Who did just speak about how negative it is to insulting others... For the
benefit of the general peace and friendship on DCML I will forget this ?
this time
> So you're not even insulting me and my country,
> and all the other thousands of people who are
> against a possible war, but also Don Rosa
> himself
My most sincere apologies to Don Rosa if he for any reason feels so. It was
*never* my intention to insult anyone here ? I just decided to be very open
minded when thinking up possible reasons for Don Rosa to choose to work for
someone else than Picsou. And please notice that I mentioned the most
important reason first ? and that one has nothing what-so-ever to with any
war at all.
> But well, I hope all this is nothing but a
> misunderstanding, or, if it's not, that I
> will have some excuses or some explanations,
I hope that my answers above are good enough.
> but, if no, I'm afraid this could have
> consequences for our friendship...
I most sincerely hope not! No one will gain anything out of that, we both
know that.
> Please, don't answer to this mail, Sigvald,
> or at least do it privately, not to bother
> other dcmailers...
I wish I could, but as you have argued ? in public- that I have offended Don
Rosa I had to comment that in public ? you put me in a sticky situation with
last few lines.
Just a final statement:
I did never mean to insult Monsieur Gilles Maurice or any French by
referring a current observation of US-attitudes. I apologize for any
inconvenience this may have caused for Monsieur Gilles Maurice or any other
French readers of the DCML.
Sigvald
>> The French are not very popular in the USA
>> nowadays, as many Americans now apparently
>> sees the French as Saddam Husseins "useful
>> idiots"
>
> Well, little Sigvald
This is normally *not* seen as a friendly way of addressing one's friends.
However I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I have often been
called "Lille Sigvald" by family and friends over the years ? my father
being "Store Sigvald" = "big Sigvald".
> Nothing gives you the right to insult me and
> my country,
And I didn't. I have *not* stated one single word about my own opinions
here, as I find that off-topic. I however am following US-media these days
so that I know what many Americans think about the French. Please remember
that referring other peoples views is *not* the same as referring your own
views.
> I do now that I know he won't help the USA
> if the war comes.
Do you? I have just read that Monsieur Chirac has said that France WILL aid
the US-forces *if* that guy in Bagdad uses Weapons of Mass Destruction
against the coalition forces.
> We all know that if this war happens, lots
> of innocents, men, women, old men, children
> and babies will die, so I wonder how it's
> possible that some people still think this
> f***ing war is a good thing.
I haven't heard anyone say it's a *good* thing. What some say is that it's
the less bad of only bad options. Some Americans have also said that the
French should remember D-Day (June 6th, 1944).
> Sigvald, what gives you the right to talk
> about such a delicate issue on Don Rosa's
> behalf?!
That was *never* my intention ? no way! I was doing analysis, not speaking
on other's behalf. Please remember that Don Rosa does not exist alone in the
Disney system. He thus may or may not, have to consider the opinions of
other Americans within the system, such as the people at Gemstone, Byron
Erickson, etc. As you said yourself ? this is a delicate matter, especially
for Americans.
> This is very grave to do this, Sigvald.
> What makes you think that Don Rosa
> is pro war or against war?
I have made no thoughts at all about Don Rosa's private thoughts about this.
That's his business, and *only* his business.
> If Don Rosa wants to talk about this, he is
> free to do so, but anyway, he more than
> probably didn't even want to discuss on this
> here, and nobody wanted, even if this war
> is probably in everybody's mind here, because
> it's not the appropriate place for this.
> YOU were the first to speak about this.
Just because it felt naturally as a part of the answer to the question I did
answer.
> And to insult me
I am indeed very sorry that you feel that way about my answer, that was
*not* my intention at all.
> and why? Because I asked Don Rosa (not you!)
> if he would work with France again.
Hey, that question was posted to DCML, open for everybody to comment.
> Really, I don't understand what the hell is
> the common point between [Don Rosa's business
> with Picsou] and [President Chirac and the war
> in Irak]. This reflection must come from an ill
> brain!
This is almost racism, Sigvald, and
> it's grave
Who did just speak about how negative it is to insulting others... For the
benefit of the general peace and friendship on DCML I will forget this ?
this time
> So you're not even insulting me and my country,
> and all the other thousands of people who are
> against a possible war, but also Don Rosa
> himself
My most sincere apologies to Don Rosa if he for any reason feels so. It was
*never* my intention to insult anyone here ? I just decided to be very open
minded when thinking up possible reasons for Don Rosa to choose to work for
someone else than Picsou. And please notice that I mentioned the most
important reason first ? and that one has nothing what-so-ever to with any
war at all.
> But well, I hope all this is nothing but a
> misunderstanding, or, if it's not, that I
> will have some excuses or some explanations,
I hope that my answers above are good enough.
> but, if no, I'm afraid this could have
> consequences for our friendship...
I most sincerely hope not! No one will gain anything out of that, we both
know that.
> Please, don't answer to this mail, Sigvald,
> or at least do it privately, not to bother
> other dcmailers...
I wish I could, but as you have argued ? in public- that I have offended Don
Rosa I had to comment that in public ? you put me in a sticky situation with
last few lines.
Just a final statement:
I did never mean to insult Monsieur Gilles Maurice or any French by
referring a current observation of US-attitudes. I apologize for any
inconvenience this may have caused for Monsieur Gilles Maurice or any other
French readers of the DCML.
Sigvald
Lars Jensen
Gemstone and Europe
Message 210 -
2003-03-19 at 01:07:32
Sigvald wrote:
> There might however be a risk that many Europeans
> won't see the Gemstone productions due to some stupid
> protectionist laws within the EU.
1. What makes you think this law is stupid? Maybe there's a good reason
why it was implemented.
2. What makes you think it is protectionist?
3. I have had no problem getting my copies of JSA and Promethea (hi,
Todd) from my comic book dealer. Why would it be different with Gemstone
publications?
Lars
> There might however be a risk that many Europeans
> won't see the Gemstone productions due to some stupid
> protectionist laws within the EU.
1. What makes you think this law is stupid? Maybe there's a good reason
why it was implemented.
2. What makes you think it is protectionist?
3. I have had no problem getting my copies of JSA and Promethea (hi,
Todd) from my comic book dealer. Why would it be different with Gemstone
publications?
Lars