I wrote:
> The first German Disney Comic was called "Micky Maus Zeitung"
> (=Mickey Mouse Newspaper) and was published in Swiss in 1936
> by the publisher Bollmann who had previously published some
> Mickey fold-out books.
What I meant was: The issues were published in German language in
Switzerland.
Cord
Author
Topic: 200303
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Cord Wiljes
AW: AW: "Wie Micky unter die Nazis fiel"
Message 331 -
2003-03-24 at 01:16:40
Goofy313g
New page about Della/Dumbella/Thelma Duck
Message 332 -
2003-03-24 at 03:44:16
Hi!
I just built a special page about Donald's sister
and Huey, Dewey and Louie's mother Della (Dumbella,
Thelma, or whatever you call her) Duck :
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/Characters/della.html
hope you'll like it :-)
Gilles
ps:my other old character pages ar still available here:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/Characters/donna.html (about Donna Duck)
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/Characters/superellsworth.html (About Super Ellsworth)
I just built a special page about Donald's sister
and Huey, Dewey and Louie's mother Della (Dumbella,
Thelma, or whatever you call her) Duck :
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/Characters/della.html
hope you'll like it :-)
Gilles
ps:my other old character pages ar still available here:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/Characters/donna.html (about Donna Duck)
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/Characters/superellsworth.html (About Super Ellsworth)
Rob Gibson
Barks/disney plots in non disney stories
Message 333 -
2003-03-24 at 07:39:47
I just got caught up on my DCML emails, so my reply is a bit dated. Steven
Spielberg has admitted being inspired by Carl Barks. In particular he
mentioned borrowing plot elements from "The Seven Cities of Cibola" for
"Raiders of the Lost Ark." Could there be a link betweeen "Jurassic Park"
(book and movie) with the auger nosed pickle hater story?
I am amazed at how many movies are based on comic book characters or plots.
One could argue that this is a factor in the decline of comic book sales. How
can a comic book compete with a movie?
Rob Gibson
Spielberg has admitted being inspired by Carl Barks. In particular he
mentioned borrowing plot elements from "The Seven Cities of Cibola" for
"Raiders of the Lost Ark." Could there be a link betweeen "Jurassic Park"
(book and movie) with the auger nosed pickle hater story?
I am amazed at how many movies are based on comic book characters or plots.
One could argue that this is a factor in the decline of comic book sales. How
can a comic book compete with a movie?
Rob Gibson
Xephyr
AM&J = Chickadees?
Message 334 -
2003-03-24 at 09:01:42
Just curious. I know I've seen April, May & June in scouting uniforms in
some stories from the 60s or 70s, but I cannot recall if they were ever
depicted as being officially counted among the Junior Chickadee Patrol?
Perhaps there is a story featuring AMJ in competition against HDL where
this is more evident? As far as I can recall, though, AMJ have only
appeared in uniform and Daisy was their troop leader, but it is never
specifically said they are in the Chickadee patrol.
Have AMJ ever appeared in an issue of the recent series Giovani Marmotte
(Junior Woodchucks) as members of the all-girl scout troop (Junior
Explorers)?
I know that Melody has appeared as a scout as has Morty, Ferdie and even
Gilbert, but none of them, to my knowledge, have ever appeared in a comic
along with HDL or AMJ as scouts. Most likely since they are considered
part of a seperate universe from the Junior Woodchucks.
-Rich Bellacera (from China)
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some stories from the 60s or 70s, but I cannot recall if they were ever
depicted as being officially counted among the Junior Chickadee Patrol?
Perhaps there is a story featuring AMJ in competition against HDL where
this is more evident? As far as I can recall, though, AMJ have only
appeared in uniform and Daisy was their troop leader, but it is never
specifically said they are in the Chickadee patrol.
Have AMJ ever appeared in an issue of the recent series Giovani Marmotte
(Junior Woodchucks) as members of the all-girl scout troop (Junior
Explorers)?
I know that Melody has appeared as a scout as has Morty, Ferdie and even
Gilbert, but none of them, to my knowledge, have ever appeared in a comic
along with HDL or AMJ as scouts. Most likely since they are considered
part of a seperate universe from the Junior Woodchucks.
-Rich Bellacera (from China)
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Fabio Blanco
Air pirates
Message 335 -
2003-03-24 at 09:06:15
Erik Horthe
Rampus McFowl in Norway
Message 336 -
2003-03-24 at 10:39:15
Daniel and Thomas: Thank you!!
Erik Horthe
Erik Horthe
Lgiver
Mickey Mouse as "Monarch of Medioka"
Message 337 -
2003-03-24 at 10:53:20
The discussion of the early history of Disney comics in Europe motivated me
to look over my copy of Mickey Mouse, "Monarch of Medioka". My copy
is the Gladstone reprint in "The Biggest Big Mickey Mouse". Geoff Blum
wrote commentary, and there are 2 pages of reprints of old New York Times
news articles from December, 1937, reporting the censorship of this
comic strip in Yugoslavia. At that time, "Mickey Mouse is probably
America's most popular representative abroad...." Wow. I had read this
several years ago, but had forgotten all about it.
For me the most interesting part of this story was Mickey
cutting taxes in Medioka to revive the depressed economy. He was
implementing Keynesian economics before Keynes became well-known!
I expect our president Ronald Reagan read this story in the newspaper comics
in 1937-38 when he was about 25 years old; then when he was president
in 1981-82 he set forth tax reduction policies during that recession.
Could it be that his early exposure to Mickey Mouse economics helped
form his policies as president??
to look over my copy of Mickey Mouse, "Monarch of Medioka". My copy
is the Gladstone reprint in "The Biggest Big Mickey Mouse". Geoff Blum
wrote commentary, and there are 2 pages of reprints of old New York Times
news articles from December, 1937, reporting the censorship of this
comic strip in Yugoslavia. At that time, "Mickey Mouse is probably
America's most popular representative abroad...." Wow. I had read this
several years ago, but had forgotten all about it.
For me the most interesting part of this story was Mickey
cutting taxes in Medioka to revive the depressed economy. He was
implementing Keynesian economics before Keynes became well-known!
I expect our president Ronald Reagan read this story in the newspaper comics
in 1937-38 when he was about 25 years old; then when he was president
in 1981-82 he set forth tax reduction policies during that recession.
Could it be that his early exposure to Mickey Mouse economics helped
form his policies as president??
Gerd Syllwasschy
"Wie Micky unter die Nazis fiel"
Message 338 -
2003-03-24 at 11:01:12
Another small correction to Cord's interesting chronology:
> - in February 1940 a translated (!) copy of Snow White was added the the
> Reichsfilm archive - but never shown publicly
This German-dubbed version was (legally) made in Austria which was still
an independent state in 1938. It was also publicly shown in Austrian
cinemas before the "Anschluss", afaik.
Gerd
> - in February 1940 a translated (!) copy of Snow White was added the the
> Reichsfilm archive - but never shown publicly
This German-dubbed version was (legally) made in Austria which was still
an independent state in 1938. It was also publicly shown in Austrian
cinemas before the "Anschluss", afaik.
Gerd
Gerd Syllwasschy
"Wie Micky unter die Nazis fiel"
Message 339 -
2003-03-24 at 11:24:48
Sigvald wrote:
> Aha! So there may be a historical reasons why the German Weekly, unlike it's
> Scandinavian counterparts, is named "Mickey Mouse" in stead of "Donald
> Duck"?
Probably, yes. It has not got to do with Hitler's preferences, but due
to the Nazi ban the duck did not have a chance to develop as much
popularity as the mouse in Germany. So the German publisher obviously
thought it better to name the magazine "Micky Maus" instead.
Gerd
> Aha! So there may be a historical reasons why the German Weekly, unlike it's
> Scandinavian counterparts, is named "Mickey Mouse" in stead of "Donald
> Duck"?
Probably, yes. It has not got to do with Hitler's preferences, but due
to the Nazi ban the duck did not have a chance to develop as much
popularity as the mouse in Germany. So the German publisher obviously
thought it better to name the magazine "Micky Maus" instead.
Gerd
H.W.Fluks
Inducks.org mentioned in PM 374
Message 340 -
2003-03-24 at 14:02:15
Gilles (Goofy313g at aol.com) wrote, about PICSOU MAGAZINE:
> In the last issue of pm, pm374, [..]
> on page 103, is published at a little sketch the
> drawing Don Rosa made for Inducks (Jones searching on a
> computer Ducks' stories to avoid them, thanks to
> inducks.org), and a little text =" For the website of Disney
> Comics specialists, Don Rosa caricatured this very atypical
> fan: Jones, Donald's neighbor!(then comes the
> translation of the text in the speaking bubble) (note that
> the author of the article wrote "Jones", and
> not"Lagrogne" (Jones' French name)
> (see it here : http://bolderbast.inducks.org/)
Thanks for mentioning it! I went to Antwerpen (Belgium) on Saturday to buy a copy.
(They opened a new tunnel two weeks ago, just for me to get there more easily. 8-)
I like the new square back format. Now I can pile them up without issues sliding off the pile.
Interesting thing was that the translation of the text on Rosa's drawing contained a minor error.
Original:
"I wanna know about all the stories with that @#@% duck... so I can avoid 'em!!!"
Re-translated French:
"I want to know all the stories with these (censored) ducks. This way, I could avoid them!!!"
The French translation suggests that Jones wants to avoid the *ducks*, instead of the *stories*...
--Harry.
(sp?cialiste des BD Disney)
> In the last issue of pm, pm374, [..]
> on page 103, is published at a little sketch the
> drawing Don Rosa made for Inducks (Jones searching on a
> computer Ducks' stories to avoid them, thanks to
> inducks.org), and a little text =" For the website of Disney
> Comics specialists, Don Rosa caricatured this very atypical
> fan: Jones, Donald's neighbor!(then comes the
> translation of the text in the speaking bubble) (note that
> the author of the article wrote "Jones", and
> not"Lagrogne" (Jones' French name)
> (see it here : http://bolderbast.inducks.org/)
Thanks for mentioning it! I went to Antwerpen (Belgium) on Saturday to buy a copy.
(They opened a new tunnel two weeks ago, just for me to get there more easily. 8-)
I like the new square back format. Now I can pile them up without issues sliding off the pile.
Interesting thing was that the translation of the text on Rosa's drawing contained a minor error.
Original:
"I wanna know about all the stories with that @#@% duck... so I can avoid 'em!!!"
Re-translated French:
"I want to know all the stories with these (censored) ducks. This way, I could avoid them!!!"
The French translation suggests that Jones wants to avoid the *ducks*, instead of the *stories*...
--Harry.
(sp?cialiste des BD Disney)
Didier Ghez
Disney Comics outside of the US before WWII
Message 341 -
2003-03-24 at 14:37:55
Larry wrote
>Wow, there must be very few Americans who know that
>Disney characters were already out of this country prior to
>and during the second world war; certainly I didn't.
Larry : If you are interested in the history of Disney Comics outside of the US before WWII, you can check the series of articles I published over the last 12 months in the American magazine Tomart's Disneyana and that is also available online (without illustrations) at the following URL :
http://pizarro.net/didier/_private/tomart/Disney_MagazinesI.htm
In it you will find a summary of info found in Italian and German in the books of Alberto Becattini and Carsten Laqua, but also brand new info about comics in former-Yugoslavia, Mexico and Palestine (before the creation of the state of Israel).
I hope you will enjoy it.
Didier
>Wow, there must be very few Americans who know that
>Disney characters were already out of this country prior to
>and during the second world war; certainly I didn't.
Larry : If you are interested in the history of Disney Comics outside of the US before WWII, you can check the series of articles I published over the last 12 months in the American magazine Tomart's Disneyana and that is also available online (without illustrations) at the following URL :
http://pizarro.net/didier/_private/tomart/Disney_MagazinesI.htm
In it you will find a summary of info found in Italian and German in the books of Alberto Becattini and Carsten Laqua, but also brand new info about comics in former-Yugoslavia, Mexico and Palestine (before the creation of the state of Israel).
I hope you will enjoy it.
Didier
Timo Ronkainen
Nordling (OT)
Message 342 -
2003-03-24 at 15:48:39
>it was. It fronted an equally spectacular "Mickey vs. The Phantom Blot"
>story, written by a gentleman named LEE NORDLING.
Does anyone know if he is related to Finnish-born Klaus Nordling of
Eisner-Iger studio fame ('Lady Luck' etc)?
Timo
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>story, written by a gentleman named LEE NORDLING.
Does anyone know if he is related to Finnish-born Klaus Nordling of
Eisner-Iger studio fame ('Lady Luck' etc)?
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
¨¨ Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
.................................
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Olivier
Air pirates
Message 343 -
2003-03-25 at 01:16:56
Hi everyone !
Fabio:
>>>http://www.lambiek.net/comics/underground.htm
>>>I am breakin' the law? :-P
You sure are! And you will surely roast in hell for this!
By the way, I have updated my notes on you-know-what, you-know-where, for the strip of today (March 25).
;) :D
Best wishes,
Olivier
Fabio:
>>>http://www.lambiek.net/comics/underground.htm
>>>I am breakin' the law? :-P
You sure are! And you will surely roast in hell for this!
By the way, I have updated my notes on you-know-what, you-know-where, for the strip of today (March 25).
;) :D
Best wishes,
Olivier
Mateusz Lis
[OT] Oscars
Message 344 -
2003-03-25 at 09:05:20
Hi all,
It's quite off-topic, but maybe you can help me.
Do you know where can I find some screens from the Oscar Ceremony?
I'm looking for the screens of this part of the ceremony when Mickey Mouse
appeared (This joke with Frodo was really fun :-)).
Best wishes,
lis
BTW: I just realize that Mickey is as old as Oscar.
It's quite off-topic, but maybe you can help me.
Do you know where can I find some screens from the Oscar Ceremony?
I'm looking for the screens of this part of the ceremony when Mickey Mouse
appeared (This joke with Frodo was really fun :-)).
Best wishes,
lis
BTW: I just realize that Mickey is as old as Oscar.
Ola Martinsson
Cover paper type, again
Message 345 -
2003-03-25 at 15:40:00
Hi !
Some time ago I sent a question about the same issue having different
types of paper on different copies of the Swedish Kalle Anka. The
Swedish equivalent to WDC.
I did not get any kind of response at all to it, so I wonder :
Is this totally uninteresting to the rest of you ? Personally I think it
is like a new comic when you see a different cover-paper-type (cpt). It
really gives the comic a totally new look.
Has this really only happened in Sweden ? My opinion of your knowledge
on this list is that if this has happened in other countries you would
surely know about it.
Anyway I ask again and hope that you don't feel like I'm nagging. I have
my old mail below.
Ola in a sunny Stockholm +10 and it feels like spring is coming
On 03/06/03 05:57 PM, Ola Martinsson wrote:
> In Sweden there are some issues between 1949 and 1967 (at least as far
> as I know of) that have a different cover paper than whats usual.
> For some issues there seems to be about the same amount of issues with
> both types of paper in the cover.
> E.g. #2 1949 that exists in one variant with a very thick rough paper
> and one with thinner smooth paper. The smooth paper is the common for
> most of the other issues at this time.
>
> There also exist issues with only the thick rough paper and no smooth
> paper.
>
> And some issues are extremely rare with another type of paper.
> The most striking one is Walt Disneys serier (compares to the USA one
> shots) #7 1953 that exists with three different types of paper in the
> cover.
> They are the same thickness but one is with subdued colours (or dull
> maybe is the word, "matt" in Swedish) (common), one is semi-glossy or
> semi-dull (rare) and one is glossy (extremely rare).
>
> The newest variant that I know of is #35 1967 that exists in a semi-dull
> type.
>
> Now I wonder is it the same in other countries ? That some issues have
> different kinds of cover paper. And in that case is some type more rare
> than the other one ?
>
> There also are some issues that have very different shades of the
> colours on the cover but that probably just is imperfection in the
> printing with the colours. However there exist one exeption #46 1972 was
> printed with a green logo (common) and with a yellow logo (rare).
>
> As a curiosity there exists a copy of the first Swedish Kalle Anka # 1
> 1948 (compares to USA WDC&S) that totally lacks the blue colour on the
> cover. This means that Donalds clothes are rose instead of blue. As far
> as I understand it lacks one of the printing colours. How I wish that it
> was mine.
>
> Ola in a still some snow in Stockholm 0 degrees and dark.
Some time ago I sent a question about the same issue having different
types of paper on different copies of the Swedish Kalle Anka. The
Swedish equivalent to WDC.
I did not get any kind of response at all to it, so I wonder :
Is this totally uninteresting to the rest of you ? Personally I think it
is like a new comic when you see a different cover-paper-type (cpt). It
really gives the comic a totally new look.
Has this really only happened in Sweden ? My opinion of your knowledge
on this list is that if this has happened in other countries you would
surely know about it.
Anyway I ask again and hope that you don't feel like I'm nagging. I have
my old mail below.
Ola in a sunny Stockholm +10 and it feels like spring is coming
On 03/06/03 05:57 PM, Ola Martinsson wrote:
> In Sweden there are some issues between 1949 and 1967 (at least as far
> as I know of) that have a different cover paper than whats usual.
> For some issues there seems to be about the same amount of issues with
> both types of paper in the cover.
> E.g. #2 1949 that exists in one variant with a very thick rough paper
> and one with thinner smooth paper. The smooth paper is the common for
> most of the other issues at this time.
>
> There also exist issues with only the thick rough paper and no smooth
> paper.
>
> And some issues are extremely rare with another type of paper.
> The most striking one is Walt Disneys serier (compares to the USA one
> shots) #7 1953 that exists with three different types of paper in the
> cover.
> They are the same thickness but one is with subdued colours (or dull
> maybe is the word, "matt" in Swedish) (common), one is semi-glossy or
> semi-dull (rare) and one is glossy (extremely rare).
>
> The newest variant that I know of is #35 1967 that exists in a semi-dull
> type.
>
> Now I wonder is it the same in other countries ? That some issues have
> different kinds of cover paper. And in that case is some type more rare
> than the other one ?
>
> There also are some issues that have very different shades of the
> colours on the cover but that probably just is imperfection in the
> printing with the colours. However there exist one exeption #46 1972 was
> printed with a green logo (common) and with a yellow logo (rare).
>
> As a curiosity there exists a copy of the first Swedish Kalle Anka # 1
> 1948 (compares to USA WDC&S) that totally lacks the blue colour on the
> cover. This means that Donalds clothes are rose instead of blue. As far
> as I understand it lacks one of the printing colours. How I wish that it
> was mine.
>
> Ola in a still some snow in Stockholm 0 degrees and dark.