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H.W.Fluks
Ola asked:

> I did not get any kind of response at all to it, so I wonder :
> Is this totally uninteresting to the rest of you ?

No, it isn't uninteresting.

--Harry.
Arie Fachrisal
I recently watched re-runs of the Indiana Jones trilogy. When i watched The
Last Crusade, i cant help feeling like i'm watching a movie of Ghost of the
Grotto. Both knights have to guard a valuable thing. Both knights have to
find replacement. And both have grown old thru the time and their similar
appearance strikes me the most. i didnt notice it when i was a kid. Whether
or not the movie was based on that story, i cant help feeling that it is.

the auger nosed antagonist is p.j. mcbrine if im not mistaken.

I agree that many movies take plots from comics and even novels. But the
current releases of superheroes comics movies arent too shabby but yet not
too grand either. I keep hoping that someday some nutcase producer will be
able to produce barks' ducks stories into a movie but using humans as the
actors. it is not impossible yet i would love to see any veteran actor take
on the role of scrooge mcduck. of course, i expect em to wear pants ;-)
somehow, don rosa's life and times stories might be perfec for such project,
depicting scrooge thru all of his hard work to be the richest one in the
world.

Keep On Quacking,
Arie Fachrisal

> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:39:47 -0800
> From: rob gibson <robgsb at rain.org>
> Subject: barks/disney plots in non disney stories
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Message-ID: <3E7E9A23.B0DCC70B at rain.org>
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>
> I just got caught up on my DCML emails, so my reply is a bit dated. Steven
> Spielberg has admitted being inspired by Carl Barks. In particular he
> mentioned borrowing plot elements from "The Seven Cities of Cibola" for
> "Raiders of the Lost Ark." Could there be a link betweeen "Jurassic Park"
> (book and movie) with the auger nosed pickle hater story?
>
> I am amazed at how many movies are based on comic book characters or
plots.
> One could argue that this is a factor in the decline of comic book sales.
How
> can a comic book compete with a movie?
>
> Rob Gibson
Danehog
In a message dated 3/26/2003 6:57:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
SRoweCanoe at aol.com writes:

> I heard that Gladstone will be reprinting issues of WDC&S from #1 on ...
>
> can anybody confirm this?

I heard about that as well. Personally, I'd love it--I think it's a great
idea. However, I think they might want to call it "WDC&S CLASSIC" or
something, as not confuse it with the current issues of the series.

I like the fact that Gemstone is starting from the beginning, as opposed to
starting where Barks started. The early issues might be completely composed
of reprints, but I just like the idea of having reprints of the entire
series.

If they did that with "Uncle Scrooge," I'd be twice as happy.

Still, I hope this WDC&S thing is an project that Gemstone will actually
embark on eventually. (Although it might be best to wait a few months after
the new books are released.)
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,

Dane Martin
Danehog
In a message dated 3/26/2003 7:08:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
spe at inducks.org writes:

> >I heard that Gladstone will be reprinting issues of WDC&S from #1 on ...
> >
> >can anybody confirm this?
>
> That is highly unlikely since the license belongs to Gemstone, not
> Gladstone.

I think he meant Gemstone obviously, as I remember reading something about
the project being a possibility in an interview somewhere. It might have been
on IGN...

I hope the rumor has *something* behind it.
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Thanks for reading this nonsense,

Dane Martin
Gary Leach
Steven Rowe:

> I heard that Gladstone will be reprinting issues of WDC&S from #1 on
> ...
>
> can anybody confirm this?

There has been some discussion about Gemstone doing something along
this line, but the matter is still only in discussion. Technical
issues, format issues, content issues...there's quite a list.

Gary
Sgarciab
Fabricio de Oliveira Grellet:

>>Does anyone knows a site dedicated to the artwork of Giorgio Cavazzano,
and that includes some of his duck stories?

Excuse me if someone has answered before, and I didn't notice. Otherwise, I
am very susprised nobody has reported fabulous Frank Stajano webpage on
Cavazzano, Scarpa and Barks:

http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/disney/

Santiago.
Timo Ronkainen
Arie Fachrisal:
>Last Crusade, i cant help feeling like i'm watching a movie of Ghost of the
>Grotto.
>their similar
>appearance strikes me the most

Yes! That indeed might be the case. At least influences taken could be
subconcious. Has anyone ever asked/interviewed Spielberg about the actual
influences and references concerning Barks? We all know that he used Barks
themes and motives (among many others) during making these Indiana movies,
but what specifically, and how much?

Rob Gibson:
>How
> > can a comic book compete with a movie?

Rarely the movie based on comic book is better, still the big audience tend
to prefer the movie and seldom even have read the original. :-/

Timo

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Crocker, John
In discussing HDL's parents,

Mickey stated:
Rosa said that someone in Xanadu told the twins they would have returned
there in order to discover a secret who deals with them. Or something like
this, neither I have the story at hand. Rosa also suggested that Della and
his husband were something like Senior Woodchucks, adventurers, tomb raiders
and so on, and they might be considered "lost in mission" to justify
everything. Or something like this :)

In response, I think that there is definitely something that could be done with this "Senior" Woodchucks idea.
HDL's parents, leaders of amazing missions and adventures are forced to leave HDL with Donald for awhile, but on this trip things don't go so well, and they get in some sort of predicament in which they are unable to return to Duckburg. Then, in some amazing Woodchucks adventure of their own, a trip in which HDL have a feeling will be extremely significant, they are led to their parents.....
Then, to wrap things up without changing the "Duckburg scenario" for future issues and stories.......HDL and their parents have a lengthly discussion about each other, getting caught up on their lives. All of them, having a great desire for knowledge and an sense of purpose in their lives understand that both groups have separate lives to live. HDL's parents are meant to continue with whatever they are doing and convince the boys that they should return home to follow their own destinies.

That's a very stream-of-conscious idea, but I think it would be really exciting and would manage to somehow keep things from getting crazy on either side of the story (before and after meeting the parents).

I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks,
John Crocker.
M.J. Prior
Hi y'all !

Arie Fachrisal:

> yet i would love to see any veteran actor take on the role of scrooge mcduck.

For me, that would be Albert Finney in the role of Daddy Warbucks in "Annie"
(1982). I know that this movie is based on the original "Little Orphan Annie"-
comics, which I've never seen. The resemblance of the two characters is
striking. Both $crooge and Warbucks are grumpy old men, whose hearts get
softened after awhile. Both started their career as a cabin boy on a ship to
America. Both have an close friendship with one of the two presidents
Roosevelt. Both possess a fabulous fortune, but no one to share it with.

In 1970, Albert Finney played the other Scrooge, Ebenezer, which may have
been the reason why they asked him to play Daddy Warbucks.

Michiel Prior.
Kriton Kyrimis
JOHN:

> HDL's parents are
> meant to continue with whatever they are doing and convince the boys that
> they should return home to follow their own destinies.

Um, isn't a parent's first and foremost duty that of raising their
children? I would think that the above behavior would have been pretty
irresponsible, and certainly not something in the "family" spirit that
Disney promote. Donald seems to have grasped this, acting as a parent
towards his nephews and trying to raise them as best as he can. As
for travelling abroad, he usually takes the kids with him, rather than
foisting them on a relative.

I'm afraid that Don is right in believing that the reason HD&L are
staying with Donald can only be something unpleasant.

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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"The truth is usually an excuse for lack of imagination."
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M.J. Prior
Don Rosa: thanks for your explanation!
Mickey, Kai Saarto and Harry Fluks: thanks for your
reactions!

Don Rosa:

> Sorry if you were caused to reread and rereread the story > in search of something that isn't there.

Well, it's been a pleasure! ;)

> As for the other sequel you mention, I am now drawing that
> tale -- it is the longest story I'll have ever done

Which means it will be longer than the 34 pages of "The
Quest for Kalevala" and will still read like a 62-pager?
Whoa! Hmmm, can't wait to see it...

(And I can tell beforehand that the Dutch will have to
publish it in two parts, since the DD-Extra is only 32
pages.)

Michiel Prior.
Michael Schartau
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kriton Kyrimis" <kyrimis at cti.gr>
>
> Um, isn't a parent's first and foremost duty that of raising their
> children? I would think that the above behavior would have been pretty
> irresponsible, and certainly not something in the "family" spirit that
> Disney promote.

Remember that back in the old days this beavior was not uncommon.
I know.
I have memories.
It was also just after WW2 and a lot of children had lost their parents.
It could perhaps be a comfort for these children to read about HDL's
situation.
And it was better (?) to be sent to a realtive than to a boardinghouse or
boardingschool.
/Michael
Danehog
In a message dated 3/26/2003 11:58:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cien2 at cbn.net.id writes:

> I keep hoping that someday some nutcase producer will be
> able to produce barks' ducks stories into a movie but using humans as the
> actors.

While I'm sure this would work, since the Duck characters are very realistic
when it comes to sheer personality, but I'm sure it would be very hard to
market--and I just can't see it happening.

And if it was attempted, chances are it would be awful.

Still, it's an interesting thing to think about...
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Dane Martin
Danehog
In a message dated 3/27/2003 10:18:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
M.J.Prior at let.rug.nl writes:

> For me, that would be Albert Finney in the role of Daddy Warbucks in "Annie"
>
> (1982). I know that this movie is based on the original "Little Orphan
> Annie"-
> comics, which I've never seen. The resemblance of the two characters is
> striking.

But Daddy Warbucks was created *before* Scrooge.

Hmm...
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,

Dane Martin
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Hi all!

the discussing concerning HD&Ls parents have made me remember a still
unanswered question I once sent to DCML.

In Lo$ part 10 - "The Invader of Fort Duckburg" (1902) Donald's parents
meets each other for the first time and fall in love.

In Lo$ part 10b - "The Sharpie of The Culebra Cut" (1906) both Donald's
mother and her sister Mathilda goes with Scrooge to Panama. Donald's father
is *not* mentioned at all. During this trip Donald's mother shows as great
interest for "cowboys" as before she met her later husband Quackmore Duck.

In Lo$ part 11 - "The Empire-Builder from Calisota". Donald's parents are
first engaged (1909) and then married and with a family (1930).

Can anyone this time please explain Hortense's behavior in 1906 and why
Quackmore is not mentioned in that story?

Sigvald :-)
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