In a message dated 3/8/2003 6:08:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, spe at inducks.org
writes:
> >By the way what about Don...
>
> That name is usually a nickname for someone called Donald, I think.
Right. The only time I remember it being short for anything other than
"Donald" is when I was younger, and there was someone in my class named
"Donique."
He scared me.
Anyway, I should probably shut up right now, as I'm horribly off-topic, and
the name "Donique" is scary enough WITHOUT being horribly off-topic!
--
Dane Martin
Author
Topic: 200303
(442 messages)
Danehog
Off-Topic: The Name "Don"
Message 91 -
2003-03-09 at 04:11:41
Danehog
William Van Horn's Art Style
Message 92 -
2003-03-09 at 04:28:35
In a message dated 3/8/2003 3:00:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lpj at forfatter.dk writes:
> Who knows, maybe Gemstone still has time to use Fecchi's cover, rather
> than Van Horn's?! The (good) Van Horn cover could instead be used for
> Comics &Stories, where it would fit right in.
Makes sense to me. Personally, I think that William Van Horn is the best
artist suited for WDC&S since Barks himself. He seems to have a more
"gag"-like approach to drawing the Ducks, unlike Barks, who of course seems
to have more of an "adventure"-like approach to them.
I hope Gemstone realizes this over time, if they haven't already.
--
Dane Martin
lpj at forfatter.dk writes:
> Who knows, maybe Gemstone still has time to use Fecchi's cover, rather
> than Van Horn's?! The (good) Van Horn cover could instead be used for
> Comics &Stories, where it would fit right in.
Makes sense to me. Personally, I think that William Van Horn is the best
artist suited for WDC&S since Barks himself. He seems to have a more
"gag"-like approach to drawing the Ducks, unlike Barks, who of course seems
to have more of an "adventure"-like approach to them.
I hope Gemstone realizes this over time, if they haven't already.
--
Dane Martin
Michael Schartau
Best Name Ever!
Message 93 -
2003-03-09 at 12:30:17
Why not go for something scottish, like Douglas
/Michael
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In a message dated 3/8/2003 9:29:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, spe at inducks.org writes:
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>>>if he did, why would it be "Donald"
>>>
>>>
>>Donald is not the only name starting with a "D"
>>
>>
>You're right. Dewey also starts with a D.
>
And so do lots of other names, e.g. Daisy &Duck.
Scrooge Duck McDuck?
Best name ever!
--
Dane Martin
/Michael
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In a message dated 3/8/2003 9:29:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, spe at inducks.org writes:
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>>>if he did, why would it be "Donald"
>>>
>>>
>>Donald is not the only name starting with a "D"
>>
>>
>You're right. Dewey also starts with a D.
>
And so do lots of other names, e.g. Daisy &Duck.
Scrooge Duck McDuck?
Best name ever!
--
Dane Martin
Mateusz Lis
Duckburg of the future
Message 94 -
2003-03-09 at 18:40:06
Dane Martin:
> Odd! I suppose that makes sense, but what's Duckburg without odd
> ... dog... things, and those ever-scary "humans" with duck-bills?
Whoops! I mean, Duckburg of the future is lived by ducks and those even-scary
"humans" with duck-bills only! :-)
Best wishes,
lis
> Odd! I suppose that makes sense, but what's Duckburg without odd
> ... dog... things, and those ever-scary "humans" with duck-bills?
Whoops! I mean, Duckburg of the future is lived by ducks and those even-scary
"humans" with duck-bills only! :-)
Best wishes,
lis
Mateusz Lis
Disney "Take Along" Books
Message 95 -
2003-03-09 at 18:52:23
Lars Jensen:
> That puzzled me, too. And there already exists a good cover for "The
> Deep", drawn by the story's artist (Fecchi)! It was used in connection
> with "The Deep"'s publication in Scandinavia.
If anyone is interested, here is this cover:
http://www.kaczordonald.pl/010/img/nn/gigant/0401.jpg
best wishes,
lis
> That puzzled me, too. And there already exists a good cover for "The
> Deep", drawn by the story's artist (Fecchi)! It was used in connection
> with "The Deep"'s publication in Scandinavia.
If anyone is interested, here is this cover:
http://www.kaczordonald.pl/010/img/nn/gigant/0401.jpg
best wishes,
lis
Gary Leach
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1288 - 5 msgs
Message 96 -
2003-03-09 at 19:18:34
Lars:
> Who knows, maybe Gemstone still has time to use Fecchi's cover, rather
> than Van Horn's?! The (good) Van Horn cover could instead be used for
> Comics & Stories, where it would fit right in.
Earlier this past week we found out about this cover's existence and
have looked into acquiring it. At present, however, we have no
production material in hand on this cover, so we can't say if we'll
ultimately be able to use it.
Gary
> Who knows, maybe Gemstone still has time to use Fecchi's cover, rather
> than Van Horn's?! The (good) Van Horn cover could instead be used for
> Comics & Stories, where it would fit right in.
Earlier this past week we found out about this cover's existence and
have looked into acquiring it. At present, however, we have no
production material in hand on this cover, so we can't say if we'll
ultimately be able to use it.
Gary
Fernando Ventura
Mulan's Brazilian Stories!
Message 97 -
2003-03-09 at 22:24:44
Hello there!
I'm indexing the brazilian Mulan stories...(I think there are 7 or 8). I
know this stories was published around the world, but I need help with the
credits, since this weren't printed into the brazilian editions.
For example, B 980005 "Boa Id?ia" (Mending The Whall) was published on USA
into Disney Adventures #8-09. The Inducks credits says:
Plot: Bob Foster
Story: Bob Foster
Art: Carson Van Osten
Ink: P. Borges, J. Anselmo
BUT, I think it has a mistake. As far as I know, Paulo Borges did the ART,
not the ink!
I think Jo?o Anselmo did the entire ink of the Mulan stories...at least I
know this story was colored by Alexandre Silva! I don't have any idea about
what Carson Van Osten really did on that one! Maybe the rough layout?
Any help?
Fernando! :-)
(watching Mulan again now!)
I'm indexing the brazilian Mulan stories...(I think there are 7 or 8). I
know this stories was published around the world, but I need help with the
credits, since this weren't printed into the brazilian editions.
For example, B 980005 "Boa Id?ia" (Mending The Whall) was published on USA
into Disney Adventures #8-09. The Inducks credits says:
Plot: Bob Foster
Story: Bob Foster
Art: Carson Van Osten
Ink: P. Borges, J. Anselmo
BUT, I think it has a mistake. As far as I know, Paulo Borges did the ART,
not the ink!
I think Jo?o Anselmo did the entire ink of the Mulan stories...at least I
know this story was colored by Alexandre Silva! I don't have any idea about
what Carson Van Osten really did on that one! Maybe the rough layout?
Any help?
Fernando! :-)
(watching Mulan again now!)
Goofy313g
Help! Italian original names
Message 98 -
2003-03-10 at 01:09:07
Hi! for my website, I'd need the original names of the following characters :
_ "Paperino moderno farmer/Farm Education" (S 63051 )
published in : Topolino (Libretto) 423 and Albi della Rosa / Albi di Topolino
815
character : Donald's Farmer cousin, called Graindavoine in French and F?tter
Farmer in danish
- "Zio Paperone e la grande bicchierata/As Into A Glass Darkly" (S 71086)
published in : Almanacco Topolino 188 and Super Almanacco Paperino 24
character: Scrooge gold digger cousin, called Arpagon Pictou in French
- Paperino e l'isola col singhiozzo (S 72142)
published in : Almanacco Topolino 192 and Super Almanacco Paperino 3
character : Rockerduck's nephew, called Ars?ne in French
- "Paperino e il cugino loquace/The Big Mouth" (S 77142)
published in : Almanacco Topolino 296 and Paperino Mese / Paperino 112
character : daisy's chatty cousin
gr???? (Miky) 386 (O faflatas) (1999)
- "Zio Paperone al castello del monello/McDucks Castle" (S 86182)
published in : Topolino (Libretto) 1712 and I Classici di Walt Disney seconda
serie 198
characters : Scrooge scottish uncle, Nicodemus Von Anka in Danish
- "Paperino eroe di Duckburg" (I TL 683-A)
published in : Topolino (Libretto) 683, Albi della Rosa / Albi di Topolino
1151, I Classici di Walt Disney seconda serie 75, and Paperinik e altri
supereroi 33
characters : several ancestors
- "Archimede e l'idea luminosa" (I TL 2203-2)
published in : Topolino (Libretto) 2203
characters : Donald's and Gyro's ancestors, called Dinald Duck and Alex
Pythagorion in French
Could Italien friends check them for me?
Thanks, Gilles
_ "Paperino moderno farmer/Farm Education" (S 63051 )
published in : Topolino (Libretto) 423 and Albi della Rosa / Albi di Topolino
815
character : Donald's Farmer cousin, called Graindavoine in French and F?tter
Farmer in danish
- "Zio Paperone e la grande bicchierata/As Into A Glass Darkly" (S 71086)
published in : Almanacco Topolino 188 and Super Almanacco Paperino 24
character: Scrooge gold digger cousin, called Arpagon Pictou in French
- Paperino e l'isola col singhiozzo (S 72142)
published in : Almanacco Topolino 192 and Super Almanacco Paperino 3
character : Rockerduck's nephew, called Ars?ne in French
- "Paperino e il cugino loquace/The Big Mouth" (S 77142)
published in : Almanacco Topolino 296 and Paperino Mese / Paperino 112
character : daisy's chatty cousin
gr???? (Miky) 386 (O faflatas) (1999)
- "Zio Paperone al castello del monello/McDucks Castle" (S 86182)
published in : Topolino (Libretto) 1712 and I Classici di Walt Disney seconda
serie 198
characters : Scrooge scottish uncle, Nicodemus Von Anka in Danish
- "Paperino eroe di Duckburg" (I TL 683-A)
published in : Topolino (Libretto) 683, Albi della Rosa / Albi di Topolino
1151, I Classici di Walt Disney seconda serie 75, and Paperinik e altri
supereroi 33
characters : several ancestors
- "Archimede e l'idea luminosa" (I TL 2203-2)
published in : Topolino (Libretto) 2203
characters : Donald's and Gyro's ancestors, called Dinald Duck and Alex
Pythagorion in French
Could Italien friends check them for me?
Thanks, Gilles
Goofy313g
Original American names : Help!
Message 99 -
2003-03-10 at 01:23:51
HI again!
This time, I need original names of these characters :
- Scrooge cousin, called Degenhart Duck in German (btw, Degenhard Duck is
also Quackmore's name in German)
appeared in : The Doony Desert Dilemma, in Donald Duck # 116 (W DD 116-05)
- Donald's cousin, called Tapfou in French
appeared in : Why All the Crabby Ducks?, in Donald Duck # 136 (W DD 136-01)
Thanks!
Gilles
This time, I need original names of these characters :
- Scrooge cousin, called Degenhart Duck in German (btw, Degenhard Duck is
also Quackmore's name in German)
appeared in : The Doony Desert Dilemma, in Donald Duck # 116 (W DD 116-05)
- Donald's cousin, called Tapfou in French
appeared in : Why All the Crabby Ducks?, in Donald Duck # 136 (W DD 136-01)
Thanks!
Gilles
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Middle names in Duckburg
Message 100 -
2003-03-10 at 01:53:35
Hi all!
Lately here on DCML, there have been some discussions related to the use of
middle names in Duckburg. Such names are very seldom in Barks' and Rosa's
stories. I can think of only one example; John D. Rockerduck. The D probably
stands for "Davison" as in John D. Rockefeller, or it can be just a D, just
like the S in Harry S Truman. The reason for the lacking middle names in
Duckburg is probably the same reason Don Rosa avoided using the same name
for multiple characters in his family tree; it would be pointlessly
confusing ? remember this is about comics characters, not about real living
people.
However Scrooge can really call him self Scrooge D. McDuck even in Don
Rosa's universe as his mother's family name is O'Drake. I would guess that
such O's are removed when such family names are used as middle names.
Scrooge are thus IMO entitled to call himself: Scrooge Drake McDuck. However
I have never seen that name in use anywhere, so there is IMO no reason what
so ever to use it for us either.
Sigvald :-)
Lately here on DCML, there have been some discussions related to the use of
middle names in Duckburg. Such names are very seldom in Barks' and Rosa's
stories. I can think of only one example; John D. Rockerduck. The D probably
stands for "Davison" as in John D. Rockefeller, or it can be just a D, just
like the S in Harry S Truman. The reason for the lacking middle names in
Duckburg is probably the same reason Don Rosa avoided using the same name
for multiple characters in his family tree; it would be pointlessly
confusing ? remember this is about comics characters, not about real living
people.
However Scrooge can really call him self Scrooge D. McDuck even in Don
Rosa's universe as his mother's family name is O'Drake. I would guess that
such O's are removed when such family names are used as middle names.
Scrooge are thus IMO entitled to call himself: Scrooge Drake McDuck. However
I have never seen that name in use anywhere, so there is IMO no reason what
so ever to use it for us either.
Sigvald :-)
Danehog
Those Ever-Scary "Humans" With Duck-Bills Only
Message 101 -
2003-03-10 at 02:28:27
In a message dated 3/9/2003 11:41:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, lis- at wp.pl
writes:
>Whoops! I mean, Duckburg of the future is lived by ducks and those >
even-scary
>"humans" with duck-bills only! :-)
Ah! I knew they would never leave! I must have faith in my ever-scary
"humans" with duck-bills only! I'm proud of them!
Does anyone know when those characters started appearing in Barks' stories? I
seem to recall them being in later efforts, but they could have appeared
earlier than the early 60's stories I'm thinking of.
Just wondering.
--
Dane Martin
writes:
>Whoops! I mean, Duckburg of the future is lived by ducks and those >
even-scary
>"humans" with duck-bills only! :-)
Ah! I knew they would never leave! I must have faith in my ever-scary
"humans" with duck-bills only! I'm proud of them!
Does anyone know when those characters started appearing in Barks' stories? I
seem to recall them being in later efforts, but they could have appeared
earlier than the early 60's stories I'm thinking of.
Just wondering.
--
Dane Martin
Danehog
Well-Colored Cover
Message 102 -
2003-03-10 at 02:29:35
In a message dated 3/9/2003 11:53:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, lis- at wp.pl
writes:
>If anyone is interested, here is this cover:
>
>http://www.kaczordonald.pl/010/img/nn/gigant/0401.jpg
I really like how that cover is colored, with the highlights on the Ducks.
Was the actual story inside colored that way also?
--
Dane Martin
writes:
>If anyone is interested, here is this cover:
>
>http://www.kaczordonald.pl/010/img/nn/gigant/0401.jpg
I really like how that cover is colored, with the highlights on the Ducks.
Was the actual story inside colored that way also?
--
Dane Martin
Ari Seppi
More Thoughts on the "Take-Along" Books
Message 103 -
2003-03-10 at 09:42:07
Dane:
>(Sorry; I originally sent this to one user, as opposed to the entire list.
>I need a mail program that actually WORKS!)
Actually there is nothing wrong with your mail program (at least in this
case). The list doesn't add Reply-To-header so your mailer can't
know that it is supposed to send the message to the whole list as
a default.
> >First, both Donald Duck &Scrooge stories were drawn by Fecchi. The story
> "The
> >Deep" (D 99272) was published in the latest issue of Polish
> "Gigant >poleca:"
> >(I've bought it yesterday ). I've really enjoyed this story - except the
> >ending.
I thought the story was quite ordinary. However, it was strangely a bit
interesting even when it was mainly put together from standardized
duck story parts. The monster was nice.
>but there are many European artists I've never even seen unreadable scans
>of, so the "pocket books" will be a good oppurtunity for me to, er,
>"expand my horizons."
>
>I'll definitely be buying at least a few of them.
The stories in this first book probably aren't very special*) so remember
not to expect to see the best of European stories - or even European
pocket stories - right away. Hopefully the next book has a good
Flemming Andersen story in it.
*) I don't remember "Panicking Pachyderm" but based on the
description it sounds like one of those not-so-good Mickey stories.
> >(i don't like the idea of Scrooge having a PC).
>Scrooge? A PC?!
:-) In Finnish version it was probably supposed to be a Mac, since the
company that manufactured it was called Omenankka (AppleDuck).
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
>(Sorry; I originally sent this to one user, as opposed to the entire list.
>I need a mail program that actually WORKS!)
Actually there is nothing wrong with your mail program (at least in this
case). The list doesn't add Reply-To-header so your mailer can't
know that it is supposed to send the message to the whole list as
a default.
> >First, both Donald Duck &Scrooge stories were drawn by Fecchi. The story
> "The
> >Deep" (D 99272) was published in the latest issue of Polish
> "Gigant >poleca:"
> >(I've bought it yesterday ). I've really enjoyed this story - except the
> >ending.
I thought the story was quite ordinary. However, it was strangely a bit
interesting even when it was mainly put together from standardized
duck story parts. The monster was nice.
>but there are many European artists I've never even seen unreadable scans
>of, so the "pocket books" will be a good oppurtunity for me to, er,
>"expand my horizons."
>
>I'll definitely be buying at least a few of them.
The stories in this first book probably aren't very special*) so remember
not to expect to see the best of European stories - or even European
pocket stories - right away. Hopefully the next book has a good
Flemming Andersen story in it.
*) I don't remember "Panicking Pachyderm" but based on the
description it sounds like one of those not-so-good Mickey stories.
> >(i don't like the idea of Scrooge having a PC).
>Scrooge? A PC?!
:-) In Finnish version it was probably supposed to be a Mac, since the
company that manufactured it was called Omenankka (AppleDuck).
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Stefan Persson
Well-Colored Cover
Message 104 -
2003-03-10 at 09:43:52
Danehog at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 3/9/2003 11:53:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> lis- at wp.pl writes:
>
> >If anyone is interested, here is this cover:
> >
> >http://www.kaczordonald.pl/010/img/nn/gigant/0401.jpg
>
> I really like how that cover is colored, with the highlights on the
> Ducks. Was the actual story inside colored that way also?
No.
Stefan
> In a message dated 3/9/2003 11:53:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> lis- at wp.pl writes:
>
> >If anyone is interested, here is this cover:
> >
> >http://www.kaczordonald.pl/010/img/nn/gigant/0401.jpg
>
> I really like how that cover is colored, with the highlights on the
> Ducks. Was the actual story inside colored that way also?
No.
Stefan
Michael Schartau
Middle names in Duckburg
Message 105 -
2003-03-10 at 13:02:39
On second thoughts
1. There is no nead for a middle name. Lots of people (and ducks) don't have
middle names. There were even an US president ho didn?t have a middle name.
I think he used N for middle initial (N=nothing).
2. As I recall it Mc, Mac and O? means "the son of". Here in Scandinavia the
most common familynames is based on a first name + son/sen
(Andersson/Andersen is the son of Anders). I have an ancestor with the name
of Mads Jensen (as seen on this list). His son was Jens Madsen.
I don?t know when these nametraditions in Scotland and Ireland changed but
here in Sweden it was during the 19th centyry. My conclusion is: McDuck must
mean the son of Duck and O?Drake mean the son of Drake, which makes Duck and
Drake not only familynames but also first names. If D stands for Duck,
Drake, Douglas or just D for
/Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:53 AM
Subject: Middle names in Duckburg
1. There is no nead for a middle name. Lots of people (and ducks) don't have
middle names. There were even an US president ho didn?t have a middle name.
I think he used N for middle initial (N=nothing).
2. As I recall it Mc, Mac and O? means "the son of". Here in Scandinavia the
most common familynames is based on a first name + son/sen
(Andersson/Andersen is the son of Anders). I have an ancestor with the name
of Mads Jensen (as seen on this list). His son was Jens Madsen.
I don?t know when these nametraditions in Scotland and Ireland changed but
here in Sweden it was during the 19th centyry. My conclusion is: McDuck must
mean the son of Duck and O?Drake mean the son of Drake, which makes Duck and
Drake not only familynames but also first names. If D stands for Duck,
Drake, Douglas or just D for
/Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:53 AM
Subject: Middle names in Duckburg