Hi, all!
I read you are speking about Fabio Celoni's art in this list.
Fabio is a friend of mine and (IMHO) a really great artist. His last story,
published il the "Paperino"'s issue of last March (drawn around six years
ago, indeed!), was great.
But I write this mail only because I have a new of some interest for you...
Francesco wrote:
>
> I guess that some of our Italian young artists would make
> *great* Marvel artist (and I'm definitely thinking about Celoni when I
> say this),
Well, I can tell you that now Celoni is drawing the Italian hit "Dylan Dog",
a very popular horror title.I look forward that book. The Sergio Bonelli's
editor M. Marcheselli contacted Fabio after appreciating his job in the b&w
Faraci's book "Topolino Noir".
Best,
Luca
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Fabio Celoni DD (Dylan Dog and Donald Duck) Artist
Message 211 -
2001-04-18 at 14:18:15
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
483: Angelo and Nils
Message 212 -
2001-04-18 at 15:09:55
>From: Angelo Toti <donald313us at yahoo.com>
>I used some other sites to build a
>best-of-Disney-comics sites.
On one hand I thank you on behalf of all the owner thank you for saying
so. But stealing from their pages is not the way to show that you like
them!
>There's no need to make
>all that fuss.
You call this fuss? Well, I think what we're feeling is the same as you
would feel if someone broke into your house and took all your comics -
cause I do hope you read comics...
On the other hand I only think I somehow have to write this, to tell what
I feel. There are other places on the net where you can flame people, it's
not fit here IMO, so I'm sorry I'm halfly doing it right now. You should
just realise that you're taking, in just a few hours or minutes, many
pages from people who spend days and months on the making.
>
>I have now deleted all pages because I plan to make a
>much better website, this time without stealing.
You call it stealing yourself??
I somehow look forward to see that page!
>
>To Donald Markstein: don't worry, I won't use your
>site because it is all crap.
As said insults are not appropriate here. Donald has but just as much work
in his great page as the people you stole from. You shouldn't insult
people like that. I hope you don't do so to your real relations, or they
might do something drastic to you.
Apostolis:
> You should be shamed!
Angelo should be ashamed of himself, you're certainly right.
NILS:
It was very interesting to read your report on the TV and media-coverage
of the Lost in the Andes story winning that vote. We saw none of it in
Denmark, I mean no media-coverage. It seems the story is more wellknown by
many in Norway. In Denmark it's more names from the stories that are used
instead of longer lines. WE use freely the names Gearloose, McDuck and
Gladstone instead of the cababilities which lie behind these names.
One of the reasons btw that "Andes" is so popular may be that it's been
published so many times here. Only Fireman Donald has been published more
often as far as I remember. 1963, '74, '80 (or thereabouts in the
classics), '90, '98 and now 2001. that's 6 times. I must say those
publishers are lucky that a disney artist doesn't get credits. BTW If
Barks was a real author, of Books (I'm not saying I don't see him as a
such, I see him as the top, but many might not) would his heirs get
credits for every time one of his books (stories) were published. There
must be some examples of this...
Quite many DCML's out today, it might take me a little time to get to
write that report.
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
>I used some other sites to build a
>best-of-Disney-comics sites.
On one hand I thank you on behalf of all the owner thank you for saying
so. But stealing from their pages is not the way to show that you like
them!
>There's no need to make
>all that fuss.
You call this fuss? Well, I think what we're feeling is the same as you
would feel if someone broke into your house and took all your comics -
cause I do hope you read comics...
On the other hand I only think I somehow have to write this, to tell what
I feel. There are other places on the net where you can flame people, it's
not fit here IMO, so I'm sorry I'm halfly doing it right now. You should
just realise that you're taking, in just a few hours or minutes, many
pages from people who spend days and months on the making.
>
>I have now deleted all pages because I plan to make a
>much better website, this time without stealing.
You call it stealing yourself??
I somehow look forward to see that page!
>
>To Donald Markstein: don't worry, I won't use your
>site because it is all crap.
As said insults are not appropriate here. Donald has but just as much work
in his great page as the people you stole from. You shouldn't insult
people like that. I hope you don't do so to your real relations, or they
might do something drastic to you.
Apostolis:
> You should be shamed!
Angelo should be ashamed of himself, you're certainly right.
NILS:
It was very interesting to read your report on the TV and media-coverage
of the Lost in the Andes story winning that vote. We saw none of it in
Denmark, I mean no media-coverage. It seems the story is more wellknown by
many in Norway. In Denmark it's more names from the stories that are used
instead of longer lines. WE use freely the names Gearloose, McDuck and
Gladstone instead of the cababilities which lie behind these names.
One of the reasons btw that "Andes" is so popular may be that it's been
published so many times here. Only Fireman Donald has been published more
often as far as I remember. 1963, '74, '80 (or thereabouts in the
classics), '90, '98 and now 2001. that's 6 times. I must say those
publishers are lucky that a disney artist doesn't get credits. BTW If
Barks was a real author, of Books (I'm not saying I don't see him as a
such, I see him as the top, but many might not) would his heirs get
credits for every time one of his books (stories) were published. There
must be some examples of this...
Quite many DCML's out today, it might take me a little time to get to
write that report.
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Fluks, H.W.
Reprints
Message 213 -
2001-04-18 at 15:32:58
Anders wrote (among many things):
> Only Fireman Donald has been published more
> often as far as I remember. 1963, '74, '80 (or thereabouts in the
> classics), '90, '98 and now 2001. that's 6 times.
Plus the original publication from 1949 makes 7. Actually:
AA1949-01,AA1968-03*,BH 1*,AA1984B24,AA1994B17,AA1999B09, and now in 2001.
But that's *only* 7 times! That same story has been printed in Holland 11
times:
DD1952-01*,DD1971-50*,BV 1,DDJ1952 1*,DDJ1952 2*,DDFAC 1*,JUB 1,AKVCB 3,AKV
3,MA1992-32,DD2000-36*.
Some editions can be regarded a different version of the same album (DDJ1952
2 and AKV 3), but one album (BV 1) has been reprinted dozens of times.
Even without that the story was printed 9 times in Holland. Is that a world
record? (Naah - I'm sure Italy has the record, being the country where every
story is reprinted almost every year...)
--Harry.
> Only Fireman Donald has been published more
> often as far as I remember. 1963, '74, '80 (or thereabouts in the
> classics), '90, '98 and now 2001. that's 6 times.
Plus the original publication from 1949 makes 7. Actually:
AA1949-01,AA1968-03*,BH 1*,AA1984B24,AA1994B17,AA1999B09, and now in 2001.
But that's *only* 7 times! That same story has been printed in Holland 11
times:
DD1952-01*,DD1971-50*,BV 1,DDJ1952 1*,DDJ1952 2*,DDFAC 1*,JUB 1,AKVCB 3,AKV
3,MA1992-32,DD2000-36*.
Some editions can be regarded a different version of the same album (DDJ1952
2 and AKV 3), but one album (BV 1) has been reprinted dozens of times.
Even without that the story was printed 9 times in Holland. Is that a world
record? (Naah - I'm sure Italy has the record, being the country where every
story is reprinted almost every year...)
--Harry.
Vidar Svendsen
Quote quizes
Message 214 -
2001-04-18 at 15:34:30
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> > What about the Vitamin Zee quiz?
I didn't notice the Vitamin Zee quiz. If nobody's answered, it's
JW 9 "Looter of the Lake"
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/
And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
> > What about the Vitamin Zee quiz?
I didn't notice the Vitamin Zee quiz. If nobody's answered, it's
JW 9 "Looter of the Lake"
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/
And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
Fluks, H.W.
What will the future bring
Message 215 -
2001-04-18 at 15:47:49
Soeren:
> > > [...] And how do we buy Carl Barks oils on ebay?!
> > The last question was not raised here recently, actually.
> that was not my point.
Maybe not, but you mentioned it anyway. And it can be interpreted as a
direct criticism on Dani?l's eBay messages, so I felt the need to react on
that.
> > I don't think it's fair to complain about the contents of a
> > mailing list that's completely filled by volunteers.
> I didn't "complain"...
Especially the last sentence in your original mail looks like a direct
complaint:
> Hey, great rock band you've got there, nice tunes and all, but it's
> nothing like Mozart, so why don't you just pack your gear and close the
> door behind you.
Again, this text suggests things that are not true.
So I felt the need to react on that.
--Harry.
> > > [...] And how do we buy Carl Barks oils on ebay?!
> > The last question was not raised here recently, actually.
> that was not my point.
Maybe not, but you mentioned it anyway. And it can be interpreted as a
direct criticism on Dani?l's eBay messages, so I felt the need to react on
that.
> > I don't think it's fair to complain about the contents of a
> > mailing list that's completely filled by volunteers.
> I didn't "complain"...
Especially the last sentence in your original mail looks like a direct
complaint:
> Hey, great rock band you've got there, nice tunes and all, but it's
> nothing like Mozart, so why don't you just pack your gear and close the
> door behind you.
Again, this text suggests things that are not true.
So I felt the need to react on that.
--Harry.
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Re 485, Olaf
Message 216 -
2001-04-18 at 15:59:40
>
>From: "Olaf Solstrand" <harryklein at hotmail.com>
I don't think I've said welcome to you, yet, but a loud welcome sounds now!
I look forward to hepefully sometime see some stories written by you.
I sometimes miss that other artist would build on Don's stories, as Don
himself builds on Barks' stories. The entire LO$ was made for Don's
purpoouse but I think all other artists are very welcome to fill in, to
use facts from the stories (which would then be Barksian facts too). What
I have seen is one story from Rota about Scrooge younger years in America
and some wagon. I don't remember how well it fitted in. All other stories
I've read of Scrooge's past are written before Don started making the Lo$.
>
>
>I will agree to all of you that has yelled at Angelo Toti; what Angelo
>did
>was a rude and terrible thing to to.
Quite. But now, lets not yell more at the guy, and lets see what the new
page he will do is like. I for one is very looking forward to it (in some
ways)
> By the way, I am working on a webpage
>right now that will be in Norwegian. I have not decided yet whether it
>will
>be a Don Rosa-site or a Disney Comics-site, but I WILL gather -some-
>information on other sites on the net - without being a copyist. I will
>also
>refer to all my sources, have a personal angle on most of it, rewrite
>everything, lay my own design on it and send mails to every source I use
>to
>ASK for permission.
If you should decide to make a page on Don Rosa, we duckhunters would
surely welcome you as a member as we have many ideas for new sections and
updates, but enough time always. Whatever you decide please tell the link
when you finish, cause we like to link to people - not copying their pages
as certain people DID.
>BTW: It feels SO cool to finally be part of a serious mailing list!
On behlaf of the poeple her, I say thank you for saying, and I feel the
same. It's great to have people here to whom I can write, feeling that
they have some of the same passions towards duck comics as myself.
>To get all these mails about something I really care about... it's
>something I've never experienced before! Thanks to all of you!!!
You're welcome from here.
I hope , btw that my next mail and the previous one about Rome will still
interest you. I don't know how many coments I would have myself to a
travel-description like the one I'm going to make, but just inform me if I
should not write more of such (eg. in connection with future trips).
>
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
>From: "Olaf Solstrand" <harryklein at hotmail.com>
I don't think I've said welcome to you, yet, but a loud welcome sounds now!
I look forward to hepefully sometime see some stories written by you.
I sometimes miss that other artist would build on Don's stories, as Don
himself builds on Barks' stories. The entire LO$ was made for Don's
purpoouse but I think all other artists are very welcome to fill in, to
use facts from the stories (which would then be Barksian facts too). What
I have seen is one story from Rota about Scrooge younger years in America
and some wagon. I don't remember how well it fitted in. All other stories
I've read of Scrooge's past are written before Don started making the Lo$.
>
>
>I will agree to all of you that has yelled at Angelo Toti; what Angelo
>did
>was a rude and terrible thing to to.
Quite. But now, lets not yell more at the guy, and lets see what the new
page he will do is like. I for one is very looking forward to it (in some
ways)
> By the way, I am working on a webpage
>right now that will be in Norwegian. I have not decided yet whether it
>will
>be a Don Rosa-site or a Disney Comics-site, but I WILL gather -some-
>information on other sites on the net - without being a copyist. I will
>also
>refer to all my sources, have a personal angle on most of it, rewrite
>everything, lay my own design on it and send mails to every source I use
>to
>ASK for permission.
If you should decide to make a page on Don Rosa, we duckhunters would
surely welcome you as a member as we have many ideas for new sections and
updates, but enough time always. Whatever you decide please tell the link
when you finish, cause we like to link to people - not copying their pages
as certain people DID.
>BTW: It feels SO cool to finally be part of a serious mailing list!
On behlaf of the poeple her, I say thank you for saying, and I feel the
same. It's great to have people here to whom I can write, feeling that
they have some of the same passions towards duck comics as myself.
>To get all these mails about something I really care about... it's
>something I've never experienced before! Thanks to all of you!!!
You're welcome from here.
I hope , btw that my next mail and the previous one about Rome will still
interest you. I don't know how many coments I would have myself to a
travel-description like the one I'm going to make, but just inform me if I
should not write more of such (eg. in connection with future trips).
>
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Daniel.V.Haugsbø
DCML digest, Vol 1 #484 - 13 msgs
Message 217 -
2001-04-18 at 16:38:13
> >>>And another thing: I can?t find the hidden
> D.U.C.K.. Does anyone know
> where
> it is?
>
> I do. Nyah, nyah!
----------------------------
i do also know it *hehe*
hint: look in the backgroung...
Daniel Vasset Haugsb?
______________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Organiser sammenkomsten p? http://no.invites.yahoo.com
> D.U.C.K.. Does anyone know
> where
> it is?
>
> I do. Nyah, nyah!
----------------------------
i do also know it *hehe*
hint: look in the backgroung...
Daniel Vasset Haugsb?
______________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Organiser sammenkomsten p? http://no.invites.yahoo.com
Håvard Hesjevoll
Questions to Don
Message 218 -
2001-04-18 at 16:38:19
Oh, I see... that explains why they had to cut some of the upper right
corner of the panel to wright the titel.
By the way; I have received a personal message from Olivier. He says that he
doesn´t want to spoil my fun finding the D.U.C.K., but he gave me a hint:
"It´s not in the coins...". So when I looked after it again, I find it!
Best wishes, Håvard...
_________________________________________________________________________
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corner of the panel to wright the titel.
By the way; I have received a personal message from Olivier. He says that he
doesn´t want to spoil my fun finding the D.U.C.K., but he gave me a hint:
"It´s not in the coins...". So when I looked after it again, I find it!
Best wishes, Håvard...
_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Donald Markstein
Scanning strips
Message 219 -
2001-04-18 at 17:01:20
Olivier:
>> (Yes, I intend to scan a few strips, but it takes a lot of
time to scan them--
>> the image rarely runs parallel to the paper so it take several
scans to get it
>> right-- and to clean them up-- as sharp and as true b&w as
possible , not
>> fuzzy dark gray & yellowish white)
Get newer software! Most graphics software nowadays allows you to rotate the
image in fractions of a degree, so you can straighten it out without taking
the time to re-scan it.
As for cleaning up the images -- I take the point of view that the
computerized image never contains truer information about the original, than
when it first comes out of the scanner. Everything else -- brightening it
up, adjusting the contrast, de-specking, etc. -- is something YOU add. Of
course, you want it to look as good as possible, but if you concentrate on
just getting the material out, the person downloading it can do the add-ons
for himself, to his own taste.
I have the Abbeville Press Mickey and Goofy books, and would very much like
to read the Gottfredson stories NOT reprinted in them. Fuzzy dark gray and
yellowish white are fine -- I can clean them up myself easily enough, if I
want to. I appreciate all efforts to make those classic stories available to
modern readers.
Quack, Don
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary. What's today?
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
>> (Yes, I intend to scan a few strips, but it takes a lot of
time to scan them--
>> the image rarely runs parallel to the paper so it take several
scans to get it
>> right-- and to clean them up-- as sharp and as true b&w as
possible , not
>> fuzzy dark gray & yellowish white)
Get newer software! Most graphics software nowadays allows you to rotate the
image in fractions of a degree, so you can straighten it out without taking
the time to re-scan it.
As for cleaning up the images -- I take the point of view that the
computerized image never contains truer information about the original, than
when it first comes out of the scanner. Everything else -- brightening it
up, adjusting the contrast, de-specking, etc. -- is something YOU add. Of
course, you want it to look as good as possible, but if you concentrate on
just getting the material out, the person downloading it can do the add-ons
for himself, to his own taste.
I have the Abbeville Press Mickey and Goofy books, and would very much like
to read the Gottfredson stories NOT reprinted in them. Fuzzy dark gray and
yellowish white are fine -- I can clean them up myself easily enough, if I
want to. I appreciate all efforts to make those classic stories available to
modern readers.
Quack, Don
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary. What's today?
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
My trip to Rome, 2nd part
Message 220 -
2001-04-18 at 17:04:20
Back to my travel report.
As we know from our friendly italians here, the Barks-inspired story,
written by Lustig and drawn by Pat Block is published in the Zio Paperone
(great italian US-comic book). Somewhere in Nowhere is a story that we've
known of for some time and finally I have it now.
I also bought the Italian weekly, which is a pocket. I am not strong in
Italian, but I find the stories looking nice, and look forward to maybe
see them here in some years. The issue contained an ad and an issue of the
magazine Mouse, which is about computers. A special edition of the comic
which I didn't buy, includes a cd-rom with a 101 dalmations game or
something - I don't read italian that well, and I'm more into emails and
such than games.
I also finally got my own MMMM (Mickey Mouse Mystery Magazine). It is
about Mickey living in Anderville, being a dedective I think. The style is
new and wild, to those who know the new paperinik it resembles a bit. It's
the same format and cover-style at least.
On tuesday I bought the wonderful Minnie mag, which I also saw in Greece.
The stories are added to girls I think, and some of them are reprints.
As a note to friends Thomas and Duco I bought to extra issues of ZP on
this day.
I also found Tesori tree which is a book printing again somwhere in
Nowhere in a softcover book. It has both the enbglish version in black and
white and the colored italian version. PLus articles and 2 two long
stories and a one-pager.
Already on wednesay I was able to find this weeks issue of Topolino (It's
suppsoed to come out on tuesday's right?) This confuses me, as I heard
before of comics hitting the stands earlier in Norway and Sweden too.
It's illegal in Denmark and a store will not be allowed to sell anymore,
say weeklies, if they sell them too early.
This day where we wnt to the Vataican we also visited Mondadori and I
found there a book from a series of Comic Book classics. It's with Huey
Dewey and Louie. It shows their origin by Taliaferro, some great stories
by Barks, and some by some italians, and the actual reason I bought it: it
cotains 4 Rosas in b/w. Don draws the stories in b/w - that's the reason
stories (by him and others) are miscolored from time to time, but I hope
you all new that. The stories are The lost library of Alexandria, The
charts of Columbus, WHADDALOTTAJARGON and a story I think is known by
"Methaphoricly Spanking". At this store I also saw a hard cover version of
the tresori tre, with somewhere in nowhere.
On thursday I bought an Asterix t-shirt with Rome on it. As mentioned I'm
an fan of that charecter too. I also bought a comic called Mega 3000. Only
as a curiosty as it carries d-coded stories I already saw. But they're
changed in format, even though the cover says unedited. I hate when a
story is changed from 4 to 3-tier-format, from 3 to 4-tier format or from
4 to 6-tier format as it has happened in pocket-books, extras from DK and
in those big white books that has seen light in many places.
On friday I bought a Topolino-issue from a box at a frech drinks- stand,
where I also bought an issue of the Grande Storie Disney-series. It
carries Gottfredsons Gorilla-story which I think I have seen before in
Murry's reddrawing. I'll have to check this tomorrow.
On saturday it literally poured down, so there was no market to go to.
I did buy, though new issue of Zio paperone, with Barks' great old Volcano
Valley story. IT also has Don's Nobody's Business story. In this issue
there is a question which I remember as something about the family tree,
concerning the fatherr of HDL, and also if Don would make a story of this
and a chapter 11b for the LO$. I didn't quite understand the answer and I
thoughtlessly didn't bring the issue to the place where I go to school and
live. But I guess it was something with Don decides himself what stories
to make. I hope I hereby brought on twom pleeds as to what stories a
certain italian reader would like Don to do next.
I hope you know Cicero, a great roman speaker, a book sotre was named
after him and I also visited there. I browsed another book from the series
of classic comics, with Scrooge. It contained among many Barks and italian
stories two by Don, Xanadu and A little Something Special. I thought I had
book enough allready and left it.
Same day we also found, by accident actually, the disney store. And as I
expected there was absolutely no figurines or anything with my favorite
Scrooge. Though there was a wall-painting, by some artist unknown to me,
but unluckily they had no postcards of it, and I didn't care to take my
camera and confuse everyone.
This mail didn't get so long after all, but I ausre you I had a great
trip,and it was unnecessary to worry if ny roman robber would rob us. We
had non of the kind
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
As we know from our friendly italians here, the Barks-inspired story,
written by Lustig and drawn by Pat Block is published in the Zio Paperone
(great italian US-comic book). Somewhere in Nowhere is a story that we've
known of for some time and finally I have it now.
I also bought the Italian weekly, which is a pocket. I am not strong in
Italian, but I find the stories looking nice, and look forward to maybe
see them here in some years. The issue contained an ad and an issue of the
magazine Mouse, which is about computers. A special edition of the comic
which I didn't buy, includes a cd-rom with a 101 dalmations game or
something - I don't read italian that well, and I'm more into emails and
such than games.
I also finally got my own MMMM (Mickey Mouse Mystery Magazine). It is
about Mickey living in Anderville, being a dedective I think. The style is
new and wild, to those who know the new paperinik it resembles a bit. It's
the same format and cover-style at least.
On tuesday I bought the wonderful Minnie mag, which I also saw in Greece.
The stories are added to girls I think, and some of them are reprints.
As a note to friends Thomas and Duco I bought to extra issues of ZP on
this day.
I also found Tesori tree which is a book printing again somwhere in
Nowhere in a softcover book. It has both the enbglish version in black and
white and the colored italian version. PLus articles and 2 two long
stories and a one-pager.
Already on wednesay I was able to find this weeks issue of Topolino (It's
suppsoed to come out on tuesday's right?) This confuses me, as I heard
before of comics hitting the stands earlier in Norway and Sweden too.
It's illegal in Denmark and a store will not be allowed to sell anymore,
say weeklies, if they sell them too early.
This day where we wnt to the Vataican we also visited Mondadori and I
found there a book from a series of Comic Book classics. It's with Huey
Dewey and Louie. It shows their origin by Taliaferro, some great stories
by Barks, and some by some italians, and the actual reason I bought it: it
cotains 4 Rosas in b/w. Don draws the stories in b/w - that's the reason
stories (by him and others) are miscolored from time to time, but I hope
you all new that. The stories are The lost library of Alexandria, The
charts of Columbus, WHADDALOTTAJARGON and a story I think is known by
"Methaphoricly Spanking". At this store I also saw a hard cover version of
the tresori tre, with somewhere in nowhere.
On thursday I bought an Asterix t-shirt with Rome on it. As mentioned I'm
an fan of that charecter too. I also bought a comic called Mega 3000. Only
as a curiosty as it carries d-coded stories I already saw. But they're
changed in format, even though the cover says unedited. I hate when a
story is changed from 4 to 3-tier-format, from 3 to 4-tier format or from
4 to 6-tier format as it has happened in pocket-books, extras from DK and
in those big white books that has seen light in many places.
On friday I bought a Topolino-issue from a box at a frech drinks- stand,
where I also bought an issue of the Grande Storie Disney-series. It
carries Gottfredsons Gorilla-story which I think I have seen before in
Murry's reddrawing. I'll have to check this tomorrow.
On saturday it literally poured down, so there was no market to go to.
I did buy, though new issue of Zio paperone, with Barks' great old Volcano
Valley story. IT also has Don's Nobody's Business story. In this issue
there is a question which I remember as something about the family tree,
concerning the fatherr of HDL, and also if Don would make a story of this
and a chapter 11b for the LO$. I didn't quite understand the answer and I
thoughtlessly didn't bring the issue to the place where I go to school and
live. But I guess it was something with Don decides himself what stories
to make. I hope I hereby brought on twom pleeds as to what stories a
certain italian reader would like Don to do next.
I hope you know Cicero, a great roman speaker, a book sotre was named
after him and I also visited there. I browsed another book from the series
of classic comics, with Scrooge. It contained among many Barks and italian
stories two by Don, Xanadu and A little Something Special. I thought I had
book enough allready and left it.
Same day we also found, by accident actually, the disney store. And as I
expected there was absolutely no figurines or anything with my favorite
Scrooge. Though there was a wall-painting, by some artist unknown to me,
but unluckily they had no postcards of it, and I didn't care to take my
camera and confuse everyone.
This mail didn't get so long after all, but I ausre you I had a great
trip,and it was unnecessary to worry if ny roman robber would rob us. We
had non of the kind
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Botto Armando
My trip to Rome, 2nd part
Message 221 -
2001-04-18 at 17:46:05
Anders (about "Zio Paperone" #139):
> In this issue there is a question which I remember as something about the
> family tree, concerning the fatherr of HDL, and also if Don would make a
> story of this and a chapter 11b for the LO$. I didn't quite understand the
> answer and I thoughtlessly didn't bring the issue to the place where I go
> to school and live. But I guess it was something with Don decides himself
> what stories to make. I hope I hereby brought on twom pleeds as to what
stories a
> certain italian reader would like Don to do next.
Reader's questions: "Regarding Scrooge's sisters: couldn't Don add a Chapter
11b to his Lo$ saga? [...] Will it be possible to read Rosa stories about
the other ducks who are shown in his Duck Family Tree? If so, when?"
Editor's answer: "We are certain that Don has plenty of ideas about the
characters in his Family Tree, including Scrooge's sisters, and sooner or
later he's going to surprise us. All we have to do is wait, because it takes
Don very long to produce his stories."
Ciao,
Armando
> In this issue there is a question which I remember as something about the
> family tree, concerning the fatherr of HDL, and also if Don would make a
> story of this and a chapter 11b for the LO$. I didn't quite understand the
> answer and I thoughtlessly didn't bring the issue to the place where I go
> to school and live. But I guess it was something with Don decides himself
> what stories to make. I hope I hereby brought on twom pleeds as to what
stories a
> certain italian reader would like Don to do next.
Reader's questions: "Regarding Scrooge's sisters: couldn't Don add a Chapter
11b to his Lo$ saga? [...] Will it be possible to read Rosa stories about
the other ducks who are shown in his Duck Family Tree? If so, when?"
Editor's answer: "We are certain that Don has plenty of ideas about the
characters in his Family Tree, including Scrooge's sisters, and sooner or
later he's going to surprise us. All we have to do is wait, because it takes
Don very long to produce his stories."
Ciao,
Armando
Fluks, H.W.
Harry's off-topic queries
Message 222 -
2001-04-18 at 18:08:59
Don:
> I had no way to conveniently read these old stories myself,
> as they were spread through about a dozen fanzines and 150 newspaper
> clippings! Now I have these 2 lovely hardbacks!
I bought both books for that same reason.
H> Episodes 128-133
H> Two pages, which were only 2/3 filled in the original, were
H> taken together as one page in the [RBCC and] DRCS reprint.
> I, myself, am not sure why there are those partial pages in
> the new hardbacks.
The pages look complete (including page numbering), but there are only 2
strips on a page in stead of 3. Maybe there was something else filling the
space in the original?
> - a (unpublished?) cover illustrating "The Black Knight";
> - cover of RBCC #148, "in King Arthur's court!";
> - poster-format strip (5 x 4 panels) advertising RBCC 148.
>
> I guess they might have published those last three items if I
> had told Nils
> about them. I guess I didn't since I knew he had no plans to print the
> covers of DRC&S
Why not? It's this kind of extra stuff that makes "definitive" editions
(extra) interesting to me. Like the Carl Barks Library, which is mainly
interesting because of all the extra material in it!
> do you have the special poster that they printed as
> an extra for people who bought the books through Tronsmo?
No, I don't. I understood that I had to pay a considerable amount of extra
money for that, and I thought the poster was not in scale with the money.
--Harry.
> I had no way to conveniently read these old stories myself,
> as they were spread through about a dozen fanzines and 150 newspaper
> clippings! Now I have these 2 lovely hardbacks!
I bought both books for that same reason.
H> Episodes 128-133
H> Two pages, which were only 2/3 filled in the original, were
H> taken together as one page in the [RBCC and] DRCS reprint.
> I, myself, am not sure why there are those partial pages in
> the new hardbacks.
The pages look complete (including page numbering), but there are only 2
strips on a page in stead of 3. Maybe there was something else filling the
space in the original?
> - a (unpublished?) cover illustrating "The Black Knight";
> - cover of RBCC #148, "in King Arthur's court!";
> - poster-format strip (5 x 4 panels) advertising RBCC 148.
>
> I guess they might have published those last three items if I
> had told Nils
> about them. I guess I didn't since I knew he had no plans to print the
> covers of DRC&S
Why not? It's this kind of extra stuff that makes "definitive" editions
(extra) interesting to me. Like the Carl Barks Library, which is mainly
interesting because of all the extra material in it!
> do you have the special poster that they printed as
> an extra for people who bought the books through Tronsmo?
No, I don't. I understood that I had to pay a considerable amount of extra
money for that, and I thought the poster was not in scale with the money.
--Harry.
Botto Armando
What will the future bring
Message 223 -
2001-04-18 at 18:34:08
SOREN
> In Italy we have at least 10 artists that produce and create art, which go
far
> beyond what Rosa & Co. could ever hope to achieve in both story telling
> and "plain" art. There is so much great art here and so much fun and
brilliant jokes
Hmmm... I agree about the "great art". Apart from the "old masters" (Scarpa,
Cavazzano, Massimo De Vita, Rota), there are a few "youngsters" I like a lot
(Mastantuono, to name one, but also Silvia Ziche's very personal style is
worth mentioning). And, in general, the average quality of the art is indeed
very good (sorry to disagree with Sprea, but I even like Celoni's art ;-)).
But I couldn't agree less when it comes to *story telling*. IMHO, most of
the I-coded scripts are simply routine. And - again IMHO - a routine script
cannot be redeemed, not even by a great artist.
There are a few notable exceptions, of course: Tito Faraci above all (but
rumour has it that he's not going to write Disney stories any longer), and a
bunch of "complete" artists, who sometimes both write and draw their
stories: Silvia Ziche, Enrico Faccini, the Leoni-Negrin "team", DCML member
Blasco Pisapia... and, recently, Mastantuono himself.
But, as Sprea pointed out, these represent much less than 10% of the Italian
production... and none of them has produced (yet) anything comparable to
Rosa's output, both in the area of long adventure stories *and* short
stories stuffed with brilliant jokes.
Soren, I'm curious to see your list of favourite Italian artists (but,
mostly, scriptwriters)...
DON
> But then, why don't a pack of Italians get on here and discuss the
stories?
Good question. Maybe we're just a bit lazy, that's another of our national
characteristics ;-)
But you (and Soren) are absolutely right - so, I'll try to post my opinions
on particularly outstanding stories in the upcoming weeks. If you don't hear
from me, well, it'll only go to show that Sprea and I were right about the
quality of the Italian production ;-)
SPREA
> But still... you've posted a couple of times on
> the Italian comics newsgroup, and you have seen that there's no one
> there talking about Disney comics; that is, no one but me, but certainly
> I can't speak alone.
Why not? You get answered, sometimes... and I enjoy lurking there, as you
know well ;-)
> Even Giuseppe Perego has drwon tons of pages, this doesn't make him a
> great artist (even though I have to say I appreciate many of his stories
> very much, and I'm sometimes tempted to find his name in the Phone book
> and go check if he's still among us, and chat a bit, since his hometown
> is not very far from here)
Please do! I'm sure he would have plenty of interesting things to say... I
hope he's still alive, he must be well over 80...
Ciao,
Armando
> In Italy we have at least 10 artists that produce and create art, which go
far
> beyond what Rosa & Co. could ever hope to achieve in both story telling
> and "plain" art. There is so much great art here and so much fun and
brilliant jokes
Hmmm... I agree about the "great art". Apart from the "old masters" (Scarpa,
Cavazzano, Massimo De Vita, Rota), there are a few "youngsters" I like a lot
(Mastantuono, to name one, but also Silvia Ziche's very personal style is
worth mentioning). And, in general, the average quality of the art is indeed
very good (sorry to disagree with Sprea, but I even like Celoni's art ;-)).
But I couldn't agree less when it comes to *story telling*. IMHO, most of
the I-coded scripts are simply routine. And - again IMHO - a routine script
cannot be redeemed, not even by a great artist.
There are a few notable exceptions, of course: Tito Faraci above all (but
rumour has it that he's not going to write Disney stories any longer), and a
bunch of "complete" artists, who sometimes both write and draw their
stories: Silvia Ziche, Enrico Faccini, the Leoni-Negrin "team", DCML member
Blasco Pisapia... and, recently, Mastantuono himself.
But, as Sprea pointed out, these represent much less than 10% of the Italian
production... and none of them has produced (yet) anything comparable to
Rosa's output, both in the area of long adventure stories *and* short
stories stuffed with brilliant jokes.
Soren, I'm curious to see your list of favourite Italian artists (but,
mostly, scriptwriters)...
DON
> But then, why don't a pack of Italians get on here and discuss the
stories?
Good question. Maybe we're just a bit lazy, that's another of our national
characteristics ;-)
But you (and Soren) are absolutely right - so, I'll try to post my opinions
on particularly outstanding stories in the upcoming weeks. If you don't hear
from me, well, it'll only go to show that Sprea and I were right about the
quality of the Italian production ;-)
SPREA
> But still... you've posted a couple of times on
> the Italian comics newsgroup, and you have seen that there's no one
> there talking about Disney comics; that is, no one but me, but certainly
> I can't speak alone.
Why not? You get answered, sometimes... and I enjoy lurking there, as you
know well ;-)
> Even Giuseppe Perego has drwon tons of pages, this doesn't make him a
> great artist (even though I have to say I appreciate many of his stories
> very much, and I'm sometimes tempted to find his name in the Phone book
> and go check if he's still among us, and chat a bit, since his hometown
> is not very far from here)
Please do! I'm sure he would have plenty of interesting things to say... I
hope he's still alive, he must be well over 80...
Ciao,
Armando
Becca Ridout
Manga
Message 224 -
2001-04-18 at 18:56:42
Hey!
This might be a bit of a long shot (compared to looking for Scandinavian stuff), but is there anyone on this list in Japan? I vaguely remember some discussions about DD manga about 2 years ago. Aside from Donald Duck comics, I'd like to obtain some Ranma 1/2 and Trigun (regular stories, *not* doushinji!) manga (the latter not being available in the US at all). I can send money, or attempt to trade (but bear in mind the scarcity of disney comics in the US).
Thanks!
rebecca ridout
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This might be a bit of a long shot (compared to looking for Scandinavian stuff), but is there anyone on this list in Japan? I vaguely remember some discussions about DD manga about 2 years ago. Aside from Donald Duck comics, I'd like to obtain some Ranma 1/2 and Trigun (regular stories, *not* doushinji!) manga (the latter not being available in the US at all). I can send money, or attempt to trade (but bear in mind the scarcity of disney comics in the US).
Thanks!
rebecca ridout
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Melanie Cerruti
Taliaferro strips
Message 225 -
2001-04-18 at 19:28:04
Hi everyone!
I'm new to the list, and after lurking a few months
there, I must say this is the best and most friendly
place on the web I have ever seen!
I have been reading Disney Comics for many years, and
at least now I can put a name on most of the artists
and writers, thanks to the COA/Inducks databases.
Olivier:
I guess you probably already know Favio's great
website about Al Taliaferro at:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cinema/9080/
?
Ciao
Melanie
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I'm new to the list, and after lurking a few months
there, I must say this is the best and most friendly
place on the web I have ever seen!
I have been reading Disney Comics for many years, and
at least now I can put a name on most of the artists
and writers, thanks to the COA/Inducks databases.
Olivier:
I guess you probably already know Favio's great
website about Al Taliaferro at:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cinema/9080/
?
Ciao
Melanie
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