Anders:
> H?vard (Your name reminds me of the character Howard the Duck)
Does H?vard sound like Howard?
Howard the Duck wears trousers.
I understand that he does so to look less like Donald, because of Disney
complaints.
--Harry.
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Fluks, H.W.
Howard the Duck
Message 481 -
2001-04-25 at 17:28:10
Fluks, H.W.
Petri
Message 482 -
2001-04-25 at 17:38:31
Petri:
> > I think this is a general thing. In my youth, I had the
> > opposite: I grew up
> > with the weeklies (in Holland), and considered the pocket
> > books crap stuff.
> Actually, this is not what happened to me. I liked these
> Egmont when I was little, but got bored with them.
I see. Then maybe it *is* something else. I'm sure it is not the quality of
the stories: both Danish and Italian stories range from very bad to very
good.
> Now, this sounds like a healthy young man ;-)
Not *that* young, actually. 8-)
> It just wasn't cool to be 14 and a Disney-fan.
I didn't talk much about it to people until I was in my 30s! And I'm *still*
making excuses when I tell a person whom I've never met about my hobby...
> today's Mickey stories are only some 10
> pages long. They don't have the same feel of adventure as the old ones
> have. I would love to have a resurrection of daily strips
> with a continous plot.
Or maybe, long pocket book stories in the Gottfredson/Scarpa tradition! I
know they can do that! Scarpa is even working for Egmont these days. (Are
you reading this, David? 8-)
> Dutch stories [...]
> Most of these stories haven't been published anywhere but in
> Holland and Finland (according to Inducks), so we in Finland
> are at great position with Dutch stories.
And covers, apparently! Clearly, the Finnish editors are more independent of
Egmont than the other Nordic countries. But even the other countries
published a lot of Dutch stories in the past few years.
--Harry.
> > I think this is a general thing. In my youth, I had the
> > opposite: I grew up
> > with the weeklies (in Holland), and considered the pocket
> > books crap stuff.
> Actually, this is not what happened to me. I liked these
> Egmont when I was little, but got bored with them.
I see. Then maybe it *is* something else. I'm sure it is not the quality of
the stories: both Danish and Italian stories range from very bad to very
good.
> Now, this sounds like a healthy young man ;-)
Not *that* young, actually. 8-)
> It just wasn't cool to be 14 and a Disney-fan.
I didn't talk much about it to people until I was in my 30s! And I'm *still*
making excuses when I tell a person whom I've never met about my hobby...
> today's Mickey stories are only some 10
> pages long. They don't have the same feel of adventure as the old ones
> have. I would love to have a resurrection of daily strips
> with a continous plot.
Or maybe, long pocket book stories in the Gottfredson/Scarpa tradition! I
know they can do that! Scarpa is even working for Egmont these days. (Are
you reading this, David? 8-)
> Dutch stories [...]
> Most of these stories haven't been published anywhere but in
> Holland and Finland (according to Inducks), so we in Finland
> are at great position with Dutch stories.
And covers, apparently! Clearly, the Finnish editors are more independent of
Egmont than the other Nordic countries. But even the other countries
published a lot of Dutch stories in the past few years.
--Harry.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
DCML digest, Vol 1 #496 - 15 msgs
Message 483 -
2001-04-25 at 17:45:38
DAN SHANE to me, 21-04-2001:
> If by offensive language you mean the word "troll", I should probably
> offer a definition that some list members may require. [...]
Hi Dan,
Thanks for your explanation. I wasn't familiar with the newsgroup meaning
of "troll". As European I indeed made the connection with the trolls of
the Norse (and Swedish?) mythology.
My apologies for misinterpreting your intention.
Best wishes,
--- Daniel
> If by offensive language you mean the word "troll", I should probably
> offer a definition that some list members may require. [...]
Hi Dan,
Thanks for your explanation. I wasn't familiar with the newsgroup meaning
of "troll". As European I indeed made the connection with the trolls of
the Norse (and Swedish?) mythology.
My apologies for misinterpreting your intention.
Best wishes,
--- Daniel
Søren Krarup Olesen
Soren: Artist Samples, Igayara
Message 484 -
2001-04-25 at 18:28:16
ARTHUR + FERNANDO (+ HARRY):
Thanks to both of you for having dealt with these strange stories.
> > MK 224c S 69067 4 DD Castelos no gelo [xapp:DD,HDL,US]
> > MK 226i S 69070 3 DD Só compra quem escorrega [xapp:DD,HDL]
>
> See http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/scodes/
We don't know exactly what happened to those two stories (S 69067 and S
69070), but it seems that the Disney Studio ordered 11 stories from
Gutenberghus (old name for Egmont), i.e. S 69065 -> S 69075. However,
for unknown reasons they (all eleven of them) were not (apparently)
distributed in the expected way, but were published just shortly after
their creation, that is in early 1969 in Scandinavia, and Gutenberghus
gave them their own D-codes.
In other words, S 69067 is in fact D 1143 and S 69070 is D 1146.
Since no story in Inducks IMO can have two different codes, I suggest
that the D-codes are used with a reference (xref) to the according
S-code.
Harry, what do you think, it quite a peculiar situation...
Søren
Thanks to both of you for having dealt with these strange stories.
> > MK 224c S 69067 4 DD Castelos no gelo [xapp:DD,HDL,US]
> > MK 226i S 69070 3 DD Só compra quem escorrega [xapp:DD,HDL]
>
> See http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/scodes/
We don't know exactly what happened to those two stories (S 69067 and S
69070), but it seems that the Disney Studio ordered 11 stories from
Gutenberghus (old name for Egmont), i.e. S 69065 -> S 69075. However,
for unknown reasons they (all eleven of them) were not (apparently)
distributed in the expected way, but were published just shortly after
their creation, that is in early 1969 in Scandinavia, and Gutenberghus
gave them their own D-codes.
In other words, S 69067 is in fact D 1143 and S 69070 is D 1146.
Since no story in Inducks IMO can have two different codes, I suggest
that the D-codes are used with a reference (xref) to the according
S-code.
Harry, what do you think, it quite a peculiar situation...
Søren
SRoweCanoe
Snafu
Message 485 -
2001-04-25 at 18:36:05
In a message dated 4/25/01 6:05:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> "Snafu" is one of those words I have great problems in figuring out how to
> pronounce. Can anybody explain? Please.
>
>
snahh-FOO
army talk for situation normal - all f---ed up (or 'all fouled up')
Steven Rowe
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> "Snafu" is one of those words I have great problems in figuring out how to
> pronounce. Can anybody explain? Please.
>
>
snahh-FOO
army talk for situation normal - all f---ed up (or 'all fouled up')
Steven Rowe
Søren Krarup Olesen
Italian stories...
Message 486 -
2001-04-25 at 18:48:37
ODD BJARNE POULSEN (+ HARRY):
> > In Denmark, I believe, most Italian stories are printed in
> > what we call "Jumbobøger", some kind of pocket books. I never
> > read very many of them, and mostly the old ones - = before
> > "Italian writers, I gues...
> [...] I think the old stories you read *were* Italian ones.
Indeed! Those old "Jumbobøger" represent (parts of) the golden age of
Italian Disney comics--only exception is the last story in JB 4 which
is a sampler of various Barks/Strobl stories. The rest is pure Italian
material of the finest kind. Many of the writers and artist you'll find
active even today.
Søren
> > In Denmark, I believe, most Italian stories are printed in
> > what we call "Jumbobøger", some kind of pocket books. I never
> > read very many of them, and mostly the old ones - = before
> > "Italian writers, I gues...
> [...] I think the old stories you read *were* Italian ones.
Indeed! Those old "Jumbobøger" represent (parts of) the golden age of
Italian Disney comics--only exception is the last story in JB 4 which
is a sampler of various Barks/Strobl stories. The rest is pure Italian
material of the finest kind. Many of the writers and artist you'll find
active even today.
Søren
Shelley Hanson/KlezmerAllThatJazz
How to pronounce snafu
Message 487 -
2001-04-25 at 19:02:55
sna -- the "a" is like the A in "rat" (rather nasal sounding) fu -- like
foo
accent is on "fu" -- sna FOO
Again, this is considered a totally clean expression, completely OK for
children.
foo
accent is on "fu" -- sna FOO
Again, this is considered a totally clean expression, completely OK for
children.
Donald Markstein
Howard the Duck
Message 488 -
2001-04-25 at 19:09:13
Yes, Disney sued Marvel Comics over Howard, claiming he was too close to
Donald. Marvel distanced Howard from Donald by having him wear pants. Steve
Gerber even wrote a story about why Howard suddenly started wearing pants,
in which the person suing Howard in the story was named "Wally Sidney".
There's a mention of this in my Toonopedia article about Howard the Duck.
Quack, Don
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary. What's today?
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Donald. Marvel distanced Howard from Donald by having him wear pants. Steve
Gerber even wrote a story about why Howard suddenly started wearing pants,
in which the person suing Howard in the story was named "Wally Sidney".
There's a mention of this in my Toonopedia article about Howard the Duck.
Quack, Don
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary. What's today?
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Petri Kanninen
Thinking hat, non-Disney ducks and pockets
Message 489 -
2001-04-25 at 19:42:15
Olivier:
> I remember a story (artist unknown) in which Gyro placed a special
> kind of thiking-hat on his head: it looked like a nest I think, with birds in
> it that chirped when inspiration struck. Anybody remembers it?
I remember several of these stories. They were published around 70's in
the weeklies.
H?vard:
> I think the author made Howard the Duck loose his nebb in an accsident. Then
> Disney gave up, and Howard bought a new nebb! He looked like he did before,
> but Disney didn?t care!
This sounds more like Arne Anka, a swedish creation. He actually had
plastic surgery done to his beak when Disney turned their eyes on him and
looked more like chicken after that. But after a while he went a bought a
rubber beak that looks like Donald's. Now if Disney said something he
would just take the fake beak away.
Don't know how a fake beak on comics character would hold in court but it
sure is a fun idea.
Harry:
> Petri:
> > Actually, this is not what happened to me. I liked these
> > Egmont when I was little, but got bored with them.
>
> I see. Then maybe it *is* something else. I'm sure it is not the quality of
> the stories: both Danish and Italian stories range from very bad to very
> good.
It's also a question of the pocket books, not only the stories. As I was
so little when collected them (under 10), I invented all kinds games to
play with them. There was pocket book bowling and other fun and
destructive ways to use them. As a result my collection might not look
too good, but their sentimental value is high.
> >I would love to have a resurrection of daily strips
> > with a continous plot.
> Or maybe, long pocket book stories in the Gottfredson/Scarpa tradition! I
> know they can do that! Scarpa is even working for Egmont these days. (Are
> you reading this, David? 8-)
First they should get Scarpa writing again. Did he stop writing just
because there was no time for it or doesn't he just like writing? He wrote
so good stories in the past that it's a shame he doesn't use his skills.
But I would love to see some changes in the pocket books. These days they
are too generic. You have a long Egmont story in the beginning and at the
end. You have a one Egmont Mickey story in the middle and some short
Italian stories elsewhere. Almost every pocket book has 8 or 9 stories. I
would like to see more Mickey stories: like Indiana Pipps, time machine
from Italy. They have the feel of adventure I'm missing. They don't seem
to make many long stories in Italy anymore, but I still would reduce the
amount of stories to 6 or 7. Oh, I still remember those old pocket books
with three of four stories. It would help (only little but anyway) if
they changed the structure of the pocket books so that an Egmont story
wouldn't be at the beginning and at end every time.
But despite all this whining I still like them. Can't help it.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
"El?m? muodostaa komplekseja."
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta:
http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
> I remember a story (artist unknown) in which Gyro placed a special
> kind of thiking-hat on his head: it looked like a nest I think, with birds in
> it that chirped when inspiration struck. Anybody remembers it?
I remember several of these stories. They were published around 70's in
the weeklies.
H?vard:
> I think the author made Howard the Duck loose his nebb in an accsident. Then
> Disney gave up, and Howard bought a new nebb! He looked like he did before,
> but Disney didn?t care!
This sounds more like Arne Anka, a swedish creation. He actually had
plastic surgery done to his beak when Disney turned their eyes on him and
looked more like chicken after that. But after a while he went a bought a
rubber beak that looks like Donald's. Now if Disney said something he
would just take the fake beak away.
Don't know how a fake beak on comics character would hold in court but it
sure is a fun idea.
Harry:
> Petri:
> > Actually, this is not what happened to me. I liked these
> > Egmont when I was little, but got bored with them.
>
> I see. Then maybe it *is* something else. I'm sure it is not the quality of
> the stories: both Danish and Italian stories range from very bad to very
> good.
It's also a question of the pocket books, not only the stories. As I was
so little when collected them (under 10), I invented all kinds games to
play with them. There was pocket book bowling and other fun and
destructive ways to use them. As a result my collection might not look
too good, but their sentimental value is high.
> >I would love to have a resurrection of daily strips
> > with a continous plot.
> Or maybe, long pocket book stories in the Gottfredson/Scarpa tradition! I
> know they can do that! Scarpa is even working for Egmont these days. (Are
> you reading this, David? 8-)
First they should get Scarpa writing again. Did he stop writing just
because there was no time for it or doesn't he just like writing? He wrote
so good stories in the past that it's a shame he doesn't use his skills.
But I would love to see some changes in the pocket books. These days they
are too generic. You have a long Egmont story in the beginning and at the
end. You have a one Egmont Mickey story in the middle and some short
Italian stories elsewhere. Almost every pocket book has 8 or 9 stories. I
would like to see more Mickey stories: like Indiana Pipps, time machine
from Italy. They have the feel of adventure I'm missing. They don't seem
to make many long stories in Italy anymore, but I still would reduce the
amount of stories to 6 or 7. Oh, I still remember those old pocket books
with three of four stories. It would help (only little but anyway) if
they changed the structure of the pocket books so that an Egmont story
wouldn't be at the beginning and at end every time.
But despite all this whining I still like them. Can't help it.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
"El?m? muodostaa komplekseja."
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta:
http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
SRoweCanoe
Howard the Duck / Leonard the Duck
Message 490 -
2001-04-25 at 20:28:33
In a message dated 4/25/01 11:49:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> Howard the Duck wears trousers.
> I understand that he does so to look less like Donald, because of Disney
>
Disney also made them (Marvel) change the beak as well as his pants.
the Leonard the Duck comment above is because the creator of Howard (Steve
Gerber) put him in the wittness protection program, and he is now under a
differnent name under Steve's wing. While a clone is operating at Marvel as
"Howard" (or so I recall, hey, those super-hero comics do get a bit
convulated and complicated).
Steven Rowe
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
> Howard the Duck wears trousers.
> I understand that he does so to look less like Donald, because of Disney
>
Disney also made them (Marvel) change the beak as well as his pants.
the Leonard the Duck comment above is because the creator of Howard (Steve
Gerber) put him in the wittness protection program, and he is now under a
differnent name under Steve's wing. While a clone is operating at Marvel as
"Howard" (or so I recall, hey, those super-hero comics do get a bit
convulated and complicated).
Steven Rowe
Dan Shane
Trolls aren't nasty, just need to be handled with care...
Message 491 -
2001-04-25 at 20:30:11
> Hi Dan,
>
> Thanks for your explanation. I wasn't familiar with the newsgroup meaning
> of "troll". As European I indeed made the connection with the trolls of
> the Norse (and Swedish?) mythology.
>
> My apologies for misinterpreting your intention.
>
>
I'm glad I could clear up my use of the word. It is sometimes hard for
Americans to get used to the international flavor of the DCML, so we don't
make our points as well as we would like, though I really enjoy soaking up
the culture of so many national representatives, yourself included.
--
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
>
> Thanks for your explanation. I wasn't familiar with the newsgroup meaning
> of "troll". As European I indeed made the connection with the trolls of
> the Norse (and Swedish?) mythology.
>
> My apologies for misinterpreting your intention.
>
>
I'm glad I could clear up my use of the word. It is sometimes hard for
Americans to get used to the international flavor of the DCML, so we don't
make our points as well as we would like, though I really enjoy soaking up
the culture of so many national representatives, yourself included.
--
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
Melanie Cerruti
Romano Scarpa
Message 492 -
2001-04-25 at 21:24:50
>First they should get Scarpa writing again.
I agree! it is too bad that Scarpa doesn't write
anymore! The two stories produced in Denmark aren't
bad at all, but they don't have the appeal of Scarpa's
best stories.
Scarpa's late stories were almost as good as his early
ones. I have always been fond of his famous adventures
such as L'unghia di Kali, or Il scozzese volante, the
short stories (30 to 40 pages long) that followed but
also more recent ones with Zenobia or Plottigat. Or
the one he did for France (les douceurs de No?l) which
was both written and drawn by the venetian artist.
>But I would love to see some changes in the pocket
>books. These days they are too generic. You have a
>long Egmont story in the beginning and at the
>end. You have a one Egmont Mickey story in the middle
>and some short Italian stories elsewhere. Almost
>every pocket book has 8 or 9 stories. I would like to
>see more Mickey stories: like Indiana Pipps, time
>machine from Italy. They have the feel of adventure
>I'm missing. They don't seem to make many long
>stories in Italy anymore, but I still would reduce
the
>amount of stories to 6 or 7.
I was told there are marketing reasons to this. The
young audience (around 7 years old) doesn't like long
stories.
Short stories are also published here in Mickey Parade
and Minnie :-(
M?lanie
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I agree! it is too bad that Scarpa doesn't write
anymore! The two stories produced in Denmark aren't
bad at all, but they don't have the appeal of Scarpa's
best stories.
Scarpa's late stories were almost as good as his early
ones. I have always been fond of his famous adventures
such as L'unghia di Kali, or Il scozzese volante, the
short stories (30 to 40 pages long) that followed but
also more recent ones with Zenobia or Plottigat. Or
the one he did for France (les douceurs de No?l) which
was both written and drawn by the venetian artist.
>But I would love to see some changes in the pocket
>books. These days they are too generic. You have a
>long Egmont story in the beginning and at the
>end. You have a one Egmont Mickey story in the middle
>and some short Italian stories elsewhere. Almost
>every pocket book has 8 or 9 stories. I would like to
>see more Mickey stories: like Indiana Pipps, time
>machine from Italy. They have the feel of adventure
>I'm missing. They don't seem to make many long
>stories in Italy anymore, but I still would reduce
the
>amount of stories to 6 or 7.
I was told there are marketing reasons to this. The
young audience (around 7 years old) doesn't like long
stories.
Short stories are also published here in Mickey Parade
and Minnie :-(
M?lanie
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Romano Scarpa
Message 493 -
2001-04-25 at 21:35:39
From: "Melanie Cerruti" <melanie166 at yahoo.fr>
> I agree! it is too bad that Scarpa doesn't write
> anymore! The two stories produced in Denmark aren't
> bad at all, but they don't have the appeal of Scarpa's
> best stories.
Right, even though I really *loved* History Re-Petes itself (and not 'cause
David's here, I say this also where he's not :-), one of the best Scarpa
stories not written by him.
But, he's also *writing* the current Egmont's Uncle Scrooge celebration
story, right? So he's back to writing, I'm really looking forward to
reading this! :-)
> I was told there are marketing reasons to this. The
> young audience (around 7 years old) doesn't like long
> stories.
I guess that's what publisher think (but certainly not the truth!), and
this might be the reason for short stories..
:-(
--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo (Scarpa)
> I agree! it is too bad that Scarpa doesn't write
> anymore! The two stories produced in Denmark aren't
> bad at all, but they don't have the appeal of Scarpa's
> best stories.
Right, even though I really *loved* History Re-Petes itself (and not 'cause
David's here, I say this also where he's not :-), one of the best Scarpa
stories not written by him.
But, he's also *writing* the current Egmont's Uncle Scrooge celebration
story, right? So he's back to writing, I'm really looking forward to
reading this! :-)
> I was told there are marketing reasons to this. The
> young audience (around 7 years old) doesn't like long
> stories.
I guess that's what publisher think (but certainly not the truth!), and
this might be the reason for short stories..
:-(
--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo (Scarpa)
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Gyro
Message 494 -
2001-04-25 at 21:36:05
Olivier
Yes I remember readin of the thinking cap in a book about Duckburg
(Donaldismen from norway). but I don't recall a certain story.
For Olaf, i think I once saw that Gyro leaves in Genius Street no.
something, and his mialbox had a name too, i once read, Expressus or
something. But I wrote all the info into a database I have at my mother's,
so I'll post it on friday. I think the info wasn't given in a certain
story, just a fun fact from the publisher's lists. They also claim
Gladstone lives at Fortuna Streeet, Scrooge lives on the bolevard of great
wealth, and Donald always lived on paradise-aplle street no. 111 (I'm
almost sure). Nonetheless his house changed looked many times.
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Yes I remember readin of the thinking cap in a book about Duckburg
(Donaldismen from norway). but I don't recall a certain story.
For Olaf, i think I once saw that Gyro leaves in Genius Street no.
something, and his mialbox had a name too, i once read, Expressus or
something. But I wrote all the info into a database I have at my mother's,
so I'll post it on friday. I think the info wasn't given in a certain
story, just a fun fact from the publisher's lists. They also claim
Gladstone lives at Fortuna Streeet, Scrooge lives on the bolevard of great
wealth, and Donald always lived on paradise-aplle street no. 111 (I'm
almost sure). Nonetheless his house changed looked many times.
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
WL Lilly
Howard's Swell Fugazi Snafu ! Doggone It !!!!!!!
Message 495 -
2001-04-25 at 21:39:59
...Marvel's Howard The Duck did get some legal threats
from Disney during the time of his initial big success
, which led to Marvel agreeing to change his
appearance...both in clothing and in his actual look ,
I guess - in his later appearances - He's never looked
as distinctive/interesting
since , IMHO .
( This , now , is AWFULLY tangential , and deals
with a newspaper comic strip that , for all I know ,
may not be published outside the U.S. , but , hey .
The syndicated strip " Mallard Fillmore " , also
features an anthomorphic duck in an otherwise human
world . When it started , I thought that he looked a
great deal like the latter-day , post-revised
appearance Howard , then , after a few months , they ,
as I recall seemed to revise Mallard's looks a little
bit...Admittedly , I guess there's not a whole lot of
ways to , in standard terms , depict " humanized duck
" in a commercial comic , especially with the specter
- in the mind , anyway ! - of Di$ney waiting to swoop
down on you/get medevial(sic!) on
yo' a$$ !!!!!!!!! )
" Snafu "s already been mentioned ,
another " F___ed-Up "
term is " FUBAR " , " F____d " - " Fouled " , of
course , of course !!!!!!!!! - " Up Beyond All
Recognition " ( or , given the likely? military origin
,
" Recognizance " ? )...which Unca Don Rosa hisself
uesta use in his " RBCC Information
Center " years !!!!!!!!! " Drastic fubar " ,
more specifically . " Fugazi " is a more recent one ,
Vietnam-derived I believe ( in U.S. terms , I mean ,
of course . ) , and I didn't become aware of it 'till
the post-hardcore band by that name came along , using
it .
" Doggone " is , indeed , from " God Damn " ,
I believe . Rememer the Smokey Robinson co-written
song " I'll Be Doggone " , from about 1965 ? Fairly
old
then , already .
The joke re: " swell " reminds me of this old joke
( that I recall seeing in a Henry Boltinoff DC filler
strip , ) about a grandma/auntie telling her kid "
There's two words I want you to promise never to use -
One is ' swell ' , and the other is ' lousy ' "
To which the kid replied...
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from Disney during the time of his initial big success
, which led to Marvel agreeing to change his
appearance...both in clothing and in his actual look ,
I guess - in his later appearances - He's never looked
as distinctive/interesting
since , IMHO .
( This , now , is AWFULLY tangential , and deals
with a newspaper comic strip that , for all I know ,
may not be published outside the U.S. , but , hey .
The syndicated strip " Mallard Fillmore " , also
features an anthomorphic duck in an otherwise human
world . When it started , I thought that he looked a
great deal like the latter-day , post-revised
appearance Howard , then , after a few months , they ,
as I recall seemed to revise Mallard's looks a little
bit...Admittedly , I guess there's not a whole lot of
ways to , in standard terms , depict " humanized duck
" in a commercial comic , especially with the specter
- in the mind , anyway ! - of Di$ney waiting to swoop
down on you/get medevial(sic!) on
yo' a$$ !!!!!!!!! )
" Snafu "s already been mentioned ,
another " F___ed-Up "
term is " FUBAR " , " F____d " - " Fouled " , of
course , of course !!!!!!!!! - " Up Beyond All
Recognition " ( or , given the likely? military origin
,
" Recognizance " ? )...which Unca Don Rosa hisself
uesta use in his " RBCC Information
Center " years !!!!!!!!! " Drastic fubar " ,
more specifically . " Fugazi " is a more recent one ,
Vietnam-derived I believe ( in U.S. terms , I mean ,
of course . ) , and I didn't become aware of it 'till
the post-hardcore band by that name came along , using
it .
" Doggone " is , indeed , from " God Damn " ,
I believe . Rememer the Smokey Robinson co-written
song " I'll Be Doggone " , from about 1965 ? Fairly
old
then , already .
The joke re: " swell " reminds me of this old joke
( that I recall seeing in a Henry Boltinoff DC filler
strip , ) about a grandma/auntie telling her kid "
There's two words I want you to promise never to use -
One is ' swell ' , and the other is ' lousy ' "
To which the kid replied...
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