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Donald Markstein
In "Letter to Santa", Donald, dressed as Santa Claus, weighed in at 106
pounds. Of course, we have to adjust down for his jacket being stuffed with
an unknown quantity of beans, but at least that gives us a maximum.

Quack, Don

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Donald Markstein
In the absence of fresh input, I don't want to continue "that" subject, but
I've gone half a week without thanking Daniel for the compliments on my
Toonopedia, and that's long enough.

Thanks, Daniel. To provide a site that people can enjoy enough to keep
coming back is exactly what I'm trying to do. I'm very glad to hear I've
done that for you, and appreciate your saying so.

Also --
Someone else asked if I'm actually collecting advertising revenue on the
site.

I've been wheeling and dealing about exactly that since I opened the site
(two months ago), and expect results momentarily. Financial rewards will be
small at first (tho at my volume it should be able to finance a trip to the
grocery store now and then), but as I come to understand the market better
and start actually promoting the site (as opposed to chatting about it in
places like this), I should start moving up the ladder. Next thing you know,
it might be making a serious dent in the utility bills, and from there --
who knows? Maybe someday it'll be able to pay my taxes.

Lotta work, tho. Answering mail, monitoring resources, keeping up-to-date on
"Today in Toons", squelching pirates, developing business contacts, writing
fresh content... WHATEVER it pays, I'll have earned every cent.

By the way, to keep this on-topic, I might mention you can find links to all
my Disney articles at http://www.toonopedia.com/disney.htm. And to delve
into the history of our topic and related areas, Friday is Walter Lantz's
birthday, and to celebrate, I hope to put up a couple of Lantz-related
articles -- touching, of course, on Oswald the Rabbit as a big part of his
career history.

Quack, Don

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Arthur Faria Jr.
Soren, you wrote:

> I have another more delicate question for you. Do you think you can
> provide a scan of the following two stories, published in Brazil in
> "Mickey" in 1971 (just a single page from each):

> MK 224c S 69067 4 DD Castelos no gelo [xapp:DD,HDL,US]
> MK 226i S 69070 3 DD S? compra quem escorrega [xapp:DD,HDL]

See http://www.projesom.com.br/afaria/scodes/

Tchau,
-- Arthur.
Halsten Aastebol
At 09:08 24.04.01 -0500, Shelley Hanson/KlezmerAllThatJazz wrote:

>The word snafu is commonly used.

"Snafu" is one of those words I have great problems in figuring out how to
pronounce. Can anybody explain? Please.

Halsten
Olaf Solstrand
Hi! Now I'm half way through the script (have written 6/12 pages), but I
still need some help...

1. Do we know the adress to Gyro's workshop? I know that it is roughly
placed in "The Madball pitcher", but anything more precisely than that?

2. What is the text on the outside Gyro's workshop - in American?

3. Does Little Helper appear in "The stubborn stork"?

BTW, I will recommend all of you to NOT turn on your computers 26/4... you
know, the Tsjernobyl virus...

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Don Rosa
From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
>>>Sigvald Gr?sfjeld mailed me the following link:
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigvaldg/sigvald/tronsmo.html
Does anyone know who's that guy sitting next to Don?

(This refers to a photo of me signing books at an Oslo bookstore last
month.)

Why are you curious about him? Does he look familiar or something?

When I'm signing books or comics as fast as possible for people who have
been waiting in these long lines for hours, and since I want to *also* be
able to simultaneously talk to the fans, I always have someone sit next to
me to write down the names on a sheet of paper for me to copy while I'm
talking. This is partly to help me spell the bizarre European monikers, but
it is mainly to give me a *visual reference* to copy while I talk. That way
I do not have to think about what I'm writing -- I can put most of my
concentration on what I'm saying to the fan. The remainder of my
concentration goes toward not falling off the chair and drooling as little
as possible.
What his name was, I don't recall now -- but he was an employee of the
bookstore, was very helpful and spoke *excellent* English with no accent.
And I *hope* he was a good speller.
Olivier
Hi!

>>3. Does Little Helper appear in "The stubborn stork"?
He does.

>>2. What is the text on the outside Gyro's workshop - in American?

Well, there have been many different signs. Here they are (well, most of them
I guess, I may have skipepd a story), to get inspiration from.

WDC&S 152 (May '53, "The Talking Dog"), p 7 panel 2:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor Of Anything" (sign on the fence)
"Laboratory" (sign on the roof)

WDC&S 153 (June '53, "Worm Weary"), p 4 panel 3:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor Of Anything" (sign)
"Laboratory" (sign on the roof)

U$ 14 (June '56, "Inventor of Anything"), p 1 panel 5:
"Shop" (above the door) (in the sense of "workshop")

U$ 16 (Dec '56, "Forecasting Follies), p 2 panel 5:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor"

Chrismas Parade 8 (Dec '56), "Grandma's Present" :
"G. Gearloose
Inventor of Anything" (on his briefcase)

U$ 17 (March '57, "Fishing Mystery"):
"Inventions For All Occasions"

WDC&S 201 (June '57, "The Dye is Cast"), p 2 panel 6:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor" (at the door)

U$ 19 (Sept '57, "Gyro Builds a Better House"):
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor of Anything"

U$ 20 (Dec '57, "Roscoe the Robot"), p 3 panel 2:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor"

U$25 (March '59, "The Wishing Well"):
"G. Gearloose
Inventor of Anything"

(Here comes one I like)
U$ 27 (Sept '59), "The Firefly Tracker" :
"Price
List
-------------------
Big Inventions
$ 5.00
------
Not So Big
$ 4.00
------
Fancy Ones
$7.50"

GG FC 1047 (Nov '59), inside front cover:
lotsa things
http://members.nbci.com/mouse_ducks/pix/fc1047if.jpg
(yep, that's a scan!)

GG F 1047 (Nov '59), "The Lost Rabbit Foot":
"The Customer is always right" (but I guess he removed that sign
after dealing with Gladstone)

(Another funny one)
U$ 28 (Dec '59), "The Inventors' Contest" :
"Inventions
While
U
Wait !
- - -
Big Ones . . . . $5.00
Wee Ones ..... .05 c"

WDC&S 233, "Knights of the Flying Sleds" (Feb '60), p 3 panel 8:
"Inventions while you wait!"

GG FC 1095 (April '60), "Cave of the Winds", p 5 panel 4:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventions
While
U
Wait"

GG FC 1095 (April '60), "Mixed-Up Mixer":
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventions While
U Wait" (on the fence next to his house,
with arrows on either side of "U Wait"
ponting left, at his workshop)
"Invention Shop" (sign on the roof, p 1 panel 7)

GG FC 1095 (April '60), "The Madball Pitcher", p 2 panel 1:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventions While U Wait!"
No address, nor for the place where he was born, but a sign
there (p 5 panel 7) reading
"Birthplace of Gyro Gearloose
Inventor of Topless Hats"

U$ 30 (June '60), "War Paint", p 1 panel 7:
"Inventions
by
Gyro!" (on his cart, which looks like a miniature wagon--
Western movies style-- in this story)
U$ 31 (Sept '60), "Fishy Warden":
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor Of Anything"

U$ 32 (Dec '61), "That Small Feeling", p 1 panel 2:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor" (a diploma on the wall)

GG FC 1184 (May '61), "Monsterville", p 8 panel 2:
"Gyro Gearloose
------
Inventor
Thinker
Genius" (wondering whether it's not something the city
gave him, since they are so happy with what he's done;
it sounds a bit too cocky for humble Gyro)

GG FC 1184 (May '61), "Mighty But Miserable":
"Inventions
Not a Lemon in a Carload" (on his cart)
and p 3 panel 6,
"Inventions
Shoppe
---------
Day-Old
Inventions
1/2 Off"

GG FC 1184 (May '61), "Brain-Strain", p 7 panel 4:
"Inventor" (above the door)
"Gyro Gearloose
*
Inventions
Emporium
*" (on the glass of the door)

WDC&S 249, "Stranger Than Fiction" (June '61), p 2 panel 3:
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor of Anything"

U$ 35 (Sept '61), "Fast Away Castaway":
"G. Gearloose
Inventor" (on the wooden door)

U$ 36 (Dec '61), "Duckburg's Day of Peril":
"Inventions" (on his cart)

(next, a story I love)
U$ 37 (March '62), "The Great Pop Up", p 3 panel 5)
"Gyro Gearloose
Inventor"

U$ 38 (June '62), "Madcap Inventors":
"Invention Shop
Come In And Browse"

U$ 39 (Sept '62), "Finny Fun":
"Gyro's Invention Shoppe"

U$ 40 (Jan '63), "Posthasty Postman", p 2 panel 6:
"Inventions" (above the door)
"Gyro's Invention Shop" (sign next to the door)

U$ 46 (Dec '63), "A Helper's Helping Hand":
"Inventions" (on top of the roof)

U$ 47 (Feb '64), "Man versus Machine", p 1 panel 3:
"Inventions by the Bundle"

(and here are some from a Don Rosa story)
WDC&S 607 (Jan '97), "The once and Future Duck" (1/3):
"Gyro Gearloose Insolvable Problems Solved" (above the door)
"Stand Back! Genius At Work!"
"Special Sale!
Barrel-o'-Inventions
5 bucks" (signs on either side of the door)

Conclusion:
The most common signs are "Gyro Gearloose, Inventor of Anything"
and "Inventions While U Wait". A few bargain offers were posted sometimes.
I think it should be simple: Gyro is proud of his inventions but is a simple
guy who takes pleasure inventing but doesn't make huge profit out of it (lots of
good bargains).

>>1. Do we know the adress to Gyro's workshop?
Haven't seen it.

>>BTW, I will recommend all of you to NOT turn on your computers 26/4... you
>>know, the Tsjernobyl virus...
? Whazzat? Haven't head about it

By the way, re WDC&S 171 ("The Too-Safe Safe", Dec '54),
I think it was the first instance of Gytro hitting himself on the head.
He did it a couple more times but not that often. I guess it may have been
deemed too violent and something children might have tried.
I remember a story (artist unknown) in which Gyro placed a special
kind of thiking-hat on his head: it looked like a nest I think, with birds in
it that chirped when inspiration struck. Anybody remembers it?

Olivier
Olivier
A couple more places you may want to add on your map, Gilles:

1/ Duck County, where Duckburg is located,
and Goose Egg County,
where the crows flee to , chased the mighty Helper-Thor
(U$ 21, March '58).

2/ Wildwood Canyon
(GG FC 1095, April '60, "The Bear Tamer")

3/ There's a lake in the park
(U$ 33, March '61, "You Can't Win")

Olivier
Olivier
I haven't made enough research, so i don't have enough facts
to illustrate my question, but here it is.

The WDC&S ten-pagers usually had no title.
There were a few notable exceptions at the beginning, with a strip of art at the
top of the pages or a title panel (ie art with the title but not the first panel of
the story, like a cover).

(WDC&S 34, July '43) No title, just the strip of art at the top
(WDC&S 35, Aug '43) Same as above (same strip too)
(WDC&S 36, Sept '43) "The Mighty Trapper" (strip of art with title)
(WDC&S 38, Nov '43) "Good Neighbors" (strip of art with title)
(WDC&S 39, Dec '43) "Salesman Donald" (strip of art with title)
(WDC&S 40, Jan '44) "Snow Fun" (strip of art with title)
(WDC&S 41, Feb '44) "The Duck in the Iron Pants" (strip of art with title)
(WDC&S 42, March '44) "Kite Weather" (title only)
(WDC&S 43, April '44) "Three Dirty Little Ducks" (title panel)
(WDC&S 44, May '44) "The Mad Chemist (title panel)
(WDC&S 45, June '44) "Rival Boatmen" (title only)
(WDC&S 46, July '44) "Camera Crazy" (title only)

Then (unless I missed some), nothing till

(WDC&S 229, Oct '59) "The good Deeds" (title, but a machine-like font)
(WDC&S 230, Nov '59) "Black Wednesday" (title, but a machine-like font)
(WDC&S 231, Dec '59) "The Wax Museum" (title, but a machine-like font)
(WDC&S 232, Jan '60) "Unde the Polar Ice" (title)
...

Does anyone know what prompted the changes (no more titles in the early
years, then titles again from late '59 onward)?
If titles has started reappearing in 1952/3, I would have guessed the decision
was influenced by the appearance of the U$ comic books, to make the whole
coherent, but there's a goid 7-year gap in-between.

Olivier
Håvard Hesjevoll
Anders Christian Sivebæk:
Håvard (Your name reminds me of the charecter Howard the Duck, who was
once made, I don't think Disney succeeded in suing the author, or did
they?)

And I reply:
I think the author made Howard the Duck loose his nebb in an accsident. Then
Disney gave up, and Howard bought a new nebb! He looked like he did before,
but Disney didn´t care!

I wrote before:
with a very special norwegian man, that tough he was supposed to
be born in the middle-ages!

Anders Christian Sivebæk replyed:
Who was that guy? A Wiking, or a later person?

And I reply:
He was interviewed in the program along with Don Rosa. He had a middle-age
dress and a middle-age hat (not like a wiking), he use to eat middle-age
food, read middle-age poems and live like middle-age people used to do. He
had nothing to do with Don Rosa, he just were in the program.

Anders Christian Sivebæk:
I hope you know you're welcome here, Håvard:-)

And I reply:
Thank you!:)

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Fluks, H.W.
I asked:

> http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigvaldg/sigvald/tronsmo.html
> Does anyone know who's that guy sitting next to Don?

Don asked:

> Why are you curious about him? Does he look familiar or something?

I know a lot of Norwegians by e-mail only. If this guy was one of them, I'd
like to know. It's always nice to see the face of someone you're
corresponding with.

--Harry.
Donald Markstein
> "Snafu" is one of those words I have great problems in
> figuring out how to pronounce. Can anybody explain? Please.
>
> Halsten

Accent on the first syllable. A as in "alley cat", U as in "Brutopia". And
the F doesn't really stand for "Fouled" -- that's just what they told me
when I was a kid.

Quack, Don

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Fluks, H.W.
Fernando:

>> There are some very good [Dutch] Hiawatha stories
>> from the 1960s.

> It sounds interistign...probably this stories was never
> published outside Holland, right?

Some of them were printed in Germany and/or Scandinavia, if I'm not
mistaken. But not too many: the artwork looked too different from the usual
Disney style.

> durign the 80's, I remeber
> LOT's of Dutch Hiawatha around here!

Interesting! I didn't know these stories were used there. These must be the
Dutch Hiawatha stories from the 70s or 80s. Not the ones (from the 60s) that
I was talking about, but still some of them are enjoyable.

Arthur Faria's Inducks listing has only a few Dutch Hiawatha stories, all
from the 80s.

--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
ODD BJARNE POULSEN:

> In Denmark, I believe, most Italian stories are printed in
> what we call "Jumbob?ger", some kind of pocket books. I never
> read very many of them, and mostly the old ones - = before
> "Italian writers, I gues...

Most stories in the pocket books have been Italian, from the beginning.
There were also some American stories (Barks, Strobl), but they have always
been a minority.

So I think the old stories you read *were* Italian ones.

--Harry.
Donald Markstein
Anders Christian:
The name "Uncle Scrooge" can't actually be copyrighted, since it's too
short. Instead, it's protected by trademark. This allows you to refer to
Scrooge by name all you please (so don't worry about them saying you can't
mention the name), as long as you ARE referring to their trademarked
property, and not to something else trying to use the name, and as long as
you don't use the name in advertising in such a way as to compete directly
with Disney or its licensees.

As for pictures, most use of them on the Web is covered by "Fair Use"
copyright provisions, whereby you're allowed to use a small part of a
copyrighted work when referring to it. Usually, they won't bother you for
using individual covers, but it's easy to see how a large body of them might
be considered a compilation of their material, and therefore theirs.

Posting whole stories is illegal, but I suspect this is one of the areas
where compromises are going to wind up being made. Most people seem to
consider it okay to post a story that isn't available any other way (except
perhaps at inflated collector prices), and I think that may be how it shakes
out when the law catches up to the accepted practices of decent people.

So you're definitely right to take the stories down when they're made
available in print. Putting them up in the first place -- depends on the
copyright holder. You're safe in most cases, but always be prepared to take
them down instantly, if the copyright holder asks you to. (That's the main
thing -- the copyright holder asking you to stop.)

Also, I think in most cases, when a story is posted only for a very limited
time, and access to it is limited (i.e., its location is given only in
newsletters like this), you're probably on safe ground. Again, it depends on
the copyright holder. Disney is notoriously litigious, but even they
probably aren't going to bother you if you're very careful not to do
anything likely to dilute the marketability of any of their properties.

Quack, Don

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