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Hello!

Shelley referred us to the inside front cover gag of U$ 14,
where Uncle Scrooge takes Grandma to the Ritzmore Cafe.

There's also the inside back cover gag of U$ 54, "Flowers are Flowers",
where he takes her to the opera; as a true gentleman, he "provides her
with a *corsage*", ie "a pretty *flower* to be worn on her dress"...

This might be further evidence of Uncle Scrooge dating Grandma.
But he seems to have somehow forgotten about it, or at least not to
be every much excited about it: Grandma calls him to make sure he
hasn't forgotten; he is busy in his vegetable garden; and he seems
rather casual about Grandma's call.
Rather than a date, it seems to be simply a gentleman accompanying
a lady to the opera-- so she won't go alone.
As for the restaurant... a friendly dinner?

Maybe Barks did try to mix a little sentimental plot & gag, and decided
it didn't work that well. He often had Donald admiring pretty girls,
but, except in U$ 2, Uncle Scrooge never seems interested in getting
involved in what he probably considers as just a time- & money-consuming thing.

A great gag along this line is the one on the inside back cover of U$ 46.
The all-young-ladies business school is on fire! The volunteer fire department
(which U$ belongs) rushes to the rescue! All the firemen run out of the building
carrying and gazing at a lovely student-- all except Scrooge, who lets the last
lady (the teacher, I think) walk out by herself while he is bravely carrying the
school's safe to safety!

It takes Magica's wizardy for Uncle Scrooge to be as bewitched by a lady duck
as Donald can be (U$ 40, "Oddball Odyssey")!

By the way, and the other way round, I like Romano Scarpa's Brigitta: it is a very
good idea. I prefer his duck stories to his mouse stories, as a matter of fact.

Olivier

I have been informed by someone who should know, that VNU has completely
closed the door on scripts that are not submitted in drawn layout format.
I apologise, as I did not know this. The many times Thom Roep told me that
any especially outstanding story would not be turned away ocurred between
1984 and 1993. Frans Haaselaar told me that in 1992 and 1993. Even given
that, the editor would have asked the script writer to attempt the layout
drawing. That time (1993) was just before a whole new generation of Dutch
story writers came up (who all drew layouts - as required). With all the
new - regular production, GP/VNU could now make the drawn layout
requirement ABSOLUTE. I did not know of this change, as I always draw up
my scripts as do all the scriptors I have contact with or have seen scripts
from: (Frank Jonker, Freddy Milton, Jan Gulbransson, Ruud Straatman, Jan
Kruse, Evard Geradts, etc.).

Speaking of story scriptors who also - I forgot to mention an excellent
one! - His name is Gorm Transgaard. He has written many very inventive,
well thought out stories and 1- page gags for Egmont from 1989 to present.
You can find a list of his work in the INDUCKS creators pages. Several of
his stories have been printed in Holland and France. I imagine at least a
few of his stories have been printed in Italy in Mega 2000, as that is the
title that reprints most of the Egmont - produced stories which do get
printed in Italy.

In answer to Daniel van Eijmeren's question about how many more hidden gags
were used by Barks in his character names: Many, many, many!!!! That
was a favourite method of his. I guess it was a partially rhetorical
question, but if anyone on the list is independently wealthy and has a lot
of time on his or her hands, perhaps they can leaf through the Another
Rainbow "Carl Barks Library" and document them all. If they have a bit of
time over and above that, they could look through all of Barks' MGM, WB and
Lantz comics as well.

Whew! I had better stop reading all these lists and responding so much -
and get back to working on some stories!!!! - Rob Klein

Rob Klein:

>I have been informed by someone who should know, that VNU has completely
>closed the door on scripts that are not submitted in drawn layout >format.
>I apologise, as I did not know this. The many times Thom Roep told me
>that any especially outstanding story would not be turned away ocurred
>between 1984 and 1993. Frans Haaselaar told me that in 1992 and 1993.
>Even given that, the editor would have asked the script writer to >attempt
the layout drawing. That time (1993) was just before a whole >new
generation of Dutch story writers came up (who all drew layouts - as
>required). With all the new - regular production, GP/VNU could now make
>the drawn layout requirement ABSOLUTE.

In France, all story scripts are drawn (sketched), as far as I know.

There are examples of sketches of F-coded stories on the following pages
BTW:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/coa/coa/des.uk.php

France

What do you find most insulting? Calling another
persons page crap or saying that one laughed
from reading messages from the person? I don't
doubt what I answerr myself.
Keeping out of mind, that it at one time affected the
page I contribute to myself, it has been quite
humouristic, to read the many lists in the last days.

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist

Last year, someone sent me information about Barks' lawn roller gag,
published July 1952, in black and white, on the inside backcover of
"Walt Disney's Donald Duck and the Golden Helmet" (OS 408):

The duck's unseen neigbour, "Mr. Craig," may be a reference to Chase
Craig, Carl Barks' editor at the Los Angeles Office of Western Printing.

His informal, private full-colour article contains information about Barks'
work methods and his art size, using the lawn roller gag as an example.
Panel 4, with the reference to Mr. Craig to be exactly:

Below, one of the panels restored to about the size it was actually
drawn, as it might have looked in india ink with Barks' blue pencil
sketches showing through. [Panel 4, simulated original art, printed
size 13,5 cm x 17 cm. It shows the inked art on top of a light-blue
layer with added horizontal lines at the top and the bottom of each
phrase in the lettering.]

Right, the panel colorized and reduced to the size it appeared in the
comic book. [Panel 4, printed size 5,4 cm x 6,8 cm.]

How was the Duck Man able to pack so much art into tiny comic book
panels?

Barks drew two and one-half times larger than the size his art would
appear on the printed page. To make the layout sheets easier to handle,
he cut them in two and drew a half page at a time.

The printers spliced the boards together and reduced them to 40%.

[40 percent of the original size! That's no typo! And, as far as I know,
Barks' original art was then *destroyed*. I hope that at least these
reduced reproductions have survived, but concerning the terrible quality
of a lot of reprints, I even doubt *that*. DvE]

Barks sketched the panels in a non-reproducible blue pencil on
heavyweight Strathmore bristol, then finished the drawings in india ink
and white tempera, using pens and brushes.

He preferred inking with an Easterbrook 356 point, and used Speedball
B-Series pens for the hand-lettered speech balloons. His brushwork for
the solid black areas and white highlights was done with fine-pointed
Windsor-Newton Series 7 red sable watercolor brushes.

Colors were added by the publishers, generally with little regard for
detail or printing registration, much to the cartoonist's chagrin.

This email contains all the information from the article. I've devided the
text into paragraphs, which will hopefully make it more readable as email.
This is the first time that this article has been made public. In order to
keep it easily accessible, I will put it on a webpage.

DO NOT USE THIS ARTICLE WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. I don't want to disappoint
the author. I think he deserves to know what will happen with the
information he kindly has supplied. (This article is only the surface.)
It's part of a project in development. More about that later. I hope within
a month, or so. It all depends on how much hours there are in a day.

Please let me know if you have additional information on Barks' work
methods. I would for example like to know which kinds of paper Barks has
used during his comic book career. There was a (temporary?) period in
which Barks had to draw on cheaper paper, for example.

Best wishes,

--- Daniel

jeff yaciuk jyaciuk at hotmail.com
Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:00:57 -0500

(About 1.5 years i was readying a comic book with Scooge Mcduck and his
nephews in it and for some reason i can't find it any more . Can anyone
please tell me if it's stiil around. I'm kind of new to this and just put my
email address on this sever. thks)

You may need to give a little more info.

Daniel van Eijmeren Wrote:

(When seeing offences and humiliations go to and fro, I myself sometimes
feel *scared* to write messages to this DCML list.)

I feel the same sometimes too (no surprise there).
It is better just not to add fuel to some arguments as they never end.

Kenneth

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Hi!
I'm very busy, this time, and have had once again problems with my
computer... I thank all those who helped me until I have become a
DCMailian...
My site is almost ready, I thik the URL will be something like
http://www.goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/ . I 'll let you know when it
will be created. Just the sections Maps and Duck family tree are ready...
I saw you spoke about Michel Souris, which has made me happy. I like this
character :-) he is becoming very famous, in France. He has ever done at
least four appearances in the Journal de Mickey, plus one cover, and three
Mickey Parade, in sections and comics (one comic in the magasine plus one
onepage comic at the fourth cover of the magasine).
I hope he'll come in other countries. He is at the same time Fethry,
Montmorency Rodent, Goofy and the Blot!...
I wanted to know more about Quackmire McDuck, Dirty Dingus' Brother... Is he
a Barksian character? If no, why DonRosa would have invented him?
In at least two Barks' stories, is a mountain called "La Dent du Diable" in
France. (I haven't the time to search the story codes) Are those two
mountains the same i the original versions?
Thanks again, Gilles.
All the proper nouns I used in this message are (c) Disney, except <Gilles>,
which is (c) Mymother.

HAVARD HESJEVOLL, 22-04-2001:

> In Don Rosa?s story: "Back to Xanadu" it is a coin in the first panel,
> that is in Scrooge?s treasure collection. This coin is dated 1916.
> Is this a special coin, that has been mentioned in another story?

It's a reference to Barks' atlantis adventure (US 5).

There's also a Rosa story in which he shows Scrooge's collection of
worthless material, again referring to Barks' stories. I don't know
for sure, but maybe that story shows another 1916 quarter, but in a
rather different shape. (You'll have to know Barks' altantis story to
know what I mean with that. If you don't know the story, I don't want
to spoil it for you by being more specific.)

Does someone know the title of that Rosa story?
(Just a guess: Was it the "Incredible Shrinking Tightwad"?)

> And another thing; the globe in the first panel has no continents
> drawed in! It?s all blue! And over this globe, it is a very little
> hovering scroll, that is all empty! Was it made this way by any
> reason?

I've checked Uncle Scrooge No. 261, and there the globe contains the
story's title, "Return to Xanadu" to be exactly.

Best wishes,

--- Daniel