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Armando wrote:

>- "Zio Paperone Due nipoti, nessun profitto", that is to
>say "Nobody's Business", that was still unpublished here.

This is very surprising! How many other Rosa stories are
unpublished in Italy?

...

And how many Jippes/Milton stories are unpublished in Italy?

Favio

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From: "Anders Christian Siveb¾k" <anders_sivebaek at nns.dk>

> >Aaaarghhh!!! I have to tell you you left behind a book reprinting what
is
> >considered by many the best Disney stories *ever*, and if not the best,
> >certainly among the best! Romano Scarpa's "Paperino e la leggenda dello
> >Scozzese Volante"! That's too bad you missed it!!

> Don't worry, I do have that story, maybe censored by german, in an early
> german pocketbook. I didn't notice it in the book btw. Was it b/w or
> colored? Maybe I wasn't focussing on Scarpa in that moment, or maybe I'm
> not that good at recognizing his style. I don't think we ever saw the
> story in Denmark.

You have it on Lustiges Tuschenbuch #8? I have that too (well, a reprint)
and it does not seem particulary "cut" (I don't know about the text, I
don't know one single word of German :-)

It is colored in this particular book, and it was his "first" style, no
wonder you dind't recognize him as Scarpa. (I didn't realize it was the
same artist as I knew as "Scarpa" only years later, when I read so in a
book).

Does "dk" mean Denmark? If so:
dk/JB 4fa I TL 174-A 48 3 RSc RSc -> US Den flyvende skotte
[part:1] [ink:LGa,RSc] [pubdate:1969] [app:US,HDL] [missingpages:2]

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From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>

> > - "Zio Paperone Due nipoti, nessun profitto", that is to say "Nobody's
> > Business", that was still unpublished here.
>
> It took me a while before I realised which story you were talking about!
No
> code, no author... are you an Induckser, Sprea? 8-)

Fact is... I haven't indexed it yet, so I still have to go look for the
codes :-)
AR 103 anyway! :-)

> > Well, what a wonderful gag in the last panel.
>
> Did the Italians in any way change or explain the logo?

No change, but no explaination either unfortunately. That's what I menat
with "very few articles lately". Once they would have made a full article
of of this gag!

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Sprea
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http://heinlein.cjb.net (RAH)

I have done some "research" on Harry's questions about the strange 2/3
pages published in the new "Pertwillaby Papers" hardback...

From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
>>>Two pages, which were only 2/3 filled in the original, were taken
together
as one page in the DRCS reprint. With one panel of new art, or so it seems.
("Ah, there's prof. Cistims now...". Question 2: is that really new art?
And
why were the original pages only 2/3?)

>>>>And then there's another page, which was composed from 2 original
pages.
Again with one panel of new (?) art. ("Vell, gett it OUT, here is our first
stop.". Question 3: why did that happen?)

What a shame someone did not spot this error before the printing presses
rolled... it's a minor flaw in an otherwise splendid edition. I can't
explain exactly where the goof occurred, but it occurred, and it's too late
now. But here's what seemed to happen.
As I was saying, when Fantagraphics published DRC&S reprinting these
stories from RBCC, I had to delete two pages from this story and squeeze it
together. I did not want to slice up my original pages of art, so I
indicated to the editor what should be deleted by writing light blue
(non-printable) instructions on the original art such as "omit" with
brackets around certain tiers of panels on a few pages. Then I drew a few
bridging panels and sent all the art to Fantagraphics.
Okay, 20 years later, Nils is gonna do this new hardback, but we don't want
me to send these hundreds of pages of "precious" (well, to *me*, anyway)
original art all the way to Norway. This is the computer age, so I took all
of the art to a local computer graphics company and, at no small expense,
they did high-rez scans of all the pages and gave me the art back along
with a batch of CD's they said they had burned. However, the CDs looked
like they were in perfectly good shape, not a scorch mark on them, so I
went ahead and sent them to Nils anyway. What I mean is that I obviously
don't know nuthin' about this process, so I didn't try to check all the
work on these CDs, I knew Nils' people would know better than me whether
the work had been done to their satisfaction.
But (I guess you're way ahead of me, eh?) apparently the computer-scanner
guy at the local graphics company saw the "omit" notes which I had long ago
forgotten were on a few of the pages.... and, by George, he OMITTED!
But... there were about six different "omit" notes on the art, yet the guy
only obeyed the directions on those two pages. Maybe he let an assistant
scan a few while he was on his coke break? Maybe he realized his error when
he got to the later "omit" notes, but never went back and rescanned the
earlier pages where he had followed the "omit" directions?
So, Harry, you *still* don't have an absolutely complete "Pertwillaby
Papers" collection because you're missing these two tiers of panels. But
trust me -- the material in those panels was totally irrelevant to the
stories, the gags were exceedingly lame, and the art in them was just as
bad as in the rest of the story... so you're not missing anything. Except
those panels.

Favio wrote:
> Armando wrote:
> >- "Zio Paperone Due nipoti, nessun profitto", that is to
> >say "Nobody's Business", that was still unpublished here.

Actually, it was Sprea who wrote that... but I can answer your questions all
the same ;-)

> This is very surprising! How many other Rosa stories are
> unpublished in Italy?

Very few. Apart from the very recent ones, both F-coded ("The Coin",
"Attaaaaaack!", "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut") and D-coded ("Escape From
Forbidden Valley", "The Three Caballeros Ride Again"), only a couple were
never published here (I wonder why): namely, "On Stolen Time" and "Treasure
Under Glass".
Ah, and we miss also a few "oddities" for which Don only provided the art (a
couple of H-coded and the "Back in Time for a Dime" Ducktales story).

> And how many Jippes/Milton stories are unpublished in Italy?

Do you refer to the stories produced by Jippes and Milton as a duo, in the
late 70es - early 80es? If so, the Inducks lists 13 stories, of which 10
have been published in "Zio Paperone" so far.
"Zio Paperone" also published all of Jippes' 10-pagers, and most of the
stories both written and drawn by Milton (8 out of 12). I must admit that I
don't like Milton's drawing style that much... even though I'd be curious to
see his "Big Sneeze" 31-page story.

Ciao,
Armando

From: "Botto Armando" <Armando.Botto at elsag.it>

> Very few. Apart from the very recent ones, both F-coded ("The Coin",
> "Attaaaaaack!", "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut") and D-coded ("Escape
From
> Forbidden Valley", "The Three Caballeros Ride Again"), only a couple were
> never published here (I wonder why): namely, "On Stolen Time" and
"Treasure
> Under Glass".
> Ah, and we miss also a few "oddities" for which Don only provided the art
(a
> couple of H-coded and the "Back in Time for a Dime" Ducktales story).

Ehi, identical lists, so they must be right ;-)
Actually I'd forgot "Back in Time for a Dime", I'd searched only for "art".

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Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo (Scarpa)
http://heinlein.cjb.net (RAH)

KENNETH SAYS:

> I agree that crediting your self with someone else's work is not fair but
I
> see nothing wrong with useing someone else's work on you page as long as
you
> give them credit for it.
> As the Internet is freedom of information.
>

AND I REPLY:

And I see nothing wrong with "borrowing" your automobile without asking for
a cross-country trip, as long as I tell everyone where I got the car.