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Rob Klein
>>I'll be intersted to see comments on this subject from other members.

WOW ! ! !

What a great work you've done!
It will take more time and research (can't remember some locations you mention)
and sketching to comment on this.

>>I hope to submit these maps to VNU for printing in some form, which is why I will not
>>place them on a website for DCML members, nor publish them in a fanzine, first.

I see.
Let's pray they will get published, and very soon.
You've got one customer here already!

Olivier

I almost overlooked this one, thinking it was only the comic book.
Description is by the seller.

Has someone here seen this cover sketch before? Has it ever been published?

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#1138611620
carl barks cover art uncle scrooge 39
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1138611620

Seller: Original Carl Barks Art. premilary cover sketch on paper
( a few light folds/creases ) page condition okay. approx size 10"x 8".
drawn by carl barks 1955. signed bottom, also stamped walt disney
production. used as cover for uncle scrooge number 39. was office
file copy.
[...]
also have one other, will be listing later.

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Best wishes,

--- Daniel

>Again, this is considered a totally clean
>expression, completely OK for children.

I'd recommend staying away from using the
expressions "snafu" and "fubar". Perhaps
they were originally totally clean ex-
pressions. But now, they've changed. In
everyday usage, the "f" has been replaced
by a much stronger word than "fouled".

Best,

Eric

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Hey Vic!

>I seem to remember that on one occasion
>she brought a similar pocket size Disney comic, but
>actually in English...translations of European Disney
>strips...she bought three or four of them...they
>looked new...I believe she might have bought them in
>Woolworths...
>
>Of course, over the years, the comics vanished....
>
>Does anyone else remember these comics? I'd sure like
>to find them again....a failed experiment, maybe?

> You got it.
> The comic you remember is the "Donald Duck Fun Library," a >100-page
>pocketbook published in Britain in the late 1970s. It was the British
>equivalent to the Scandinavian Onkel Joakim/Onkel Skrue, which is
> >published
>to this day (and to the German Donald Duck, which stopped a couple of
> >years
>ago). I have never seen one of these for sale on the open market, >even
>when
>I lived in the UK, but we do have bound-together file copies here at
> >Egmont,
>so I know we published it.
>In 1981, there were also thicker Disney comics in Britain when two
>(?) issues of "Jumbo Book" were published. They are 256-page >pocketbooks,
>equivalent to the Danish Jumbobog and German Lustiges Taschenbuch >(among
>others). I guess these weren't a success - pity, as one of the two
> >contains
>some of Scarpa's *very* best stories.

> David

Funny that you talk about that (Donald Duck Fun Library).
I have a copy of it that I have wondered about for a while now on the inside
it say's that it is published in Italy but the digest book is in English it
is a 96 pager dose any on know any more about these books?

Kenneth

http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/ken2/index.html
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Kevin Clark discusses aspects of Scrooge's personality (in an
earlier message today). He quotes the familiar
<<Scrooge made his fortune by being smarter than the smarties,
and tougher than the toughies, and he made it SQUARE! >>
and adds: <<The stories which suggest otherwise clearly did not
happen as recorded ... Most likely, these stories began as
anti-Scrooge propaganda. >>

Yes, this is a familiar and often-repeated point of view, with which
Scrooge himself would like us to agree. But is it true, ladies and
gentlemen of the business ethics jury, fully true? Who amongst us
can claim such a track record, _never_ having cheated on others
to have some extra money, to gain a business advantage, or to avoid
paying some inconvenient tax or toll or bus money? Never having
crossed the finely balanced dictae of law and morality? Is the
working life of Scrooge McDuck (b. 1867), citizen of Duckburg,
Calisota that spot free?

Yes, members of the jury, it is highly likely that this in many ways
admirable person even believes his own extravagant claim about
"and I made it SQUARE!" himself (when he expresses it).
But is this a result of convenient selective memory? If he dives deep
into the darker crevasses of his long-lived mind, with the help of
relatives, psychologists, hypnotherapists or historians (that's us,
fellow readers!), do we then sense shadows of acts and business
deals that have not been fully legal and moral?

(Yes, I actually spent yesterday in an Oslo court, as a "lay judge",
and enjoyed the process. I'm now taking the inspired role of district
attorney, prosecutor & procurator.)

I invite you, members of the Law & Ethics Supreme Court, fellow
archeologists and historians, to consider this question in its full gravity.
I wish to put it to you that yes, there are skeletons in Scrooge's closet.
My honoured opponent, defense attorney Kevin Clark at the
Magician Zero Law Office, will have his chance at countering my
evidence later on. But first it is my procuratorial duty to present
you with the necessary incriminating evidence. I shall call your attention
to Grave Incidents in Scrooge's life, and shall endeavour to do so
after a necessary break in the court's proceedings. I also call on
fellow historians, readers and witnesses to help the attorney in
this process. Please place your reports and arguments, in reasonable
brevity and with precise literary references, to the DCML.
The Supreme Court administrator has warned us that apocryphical
material will be considered evidence to be overruled, so discussion
must be limited to documents prepared from 1947 to 2001 by
only the most trusted reporters on aspects of Scrooge's life,
to wit, Carl Barks, Don Rosa, and possibly also Tony Strobl and
Marco Rota (the court will decide on this on a case by case basis).
Readers, you have been challenged.

Nils Lid Hjort

NILS LID HJORT ELOQUENTLY SUBMITTED:

> I wish to put it to you that yes, there are skeletons in Scrooge's closet.

> I also call on
> fellow historians, readers and witnesses to help the attorney in
> this process. Please place your reports and arguments, in reasonable
> brevity and with precise literary references, to the DCML.

> The Supreme Court administrator has warned us that apocryphical
> material will be considered evidence to be overruled, so discussion
> must be limited to documents prepared from 1947 to 2001 by
> only the most trusted reporters on aspects of Scrooge's life,
> to wit, Carl Barks, Don Rosa, and possibly also Tony Strobl and
> Marco Rota (the court will decide on this on a case by case basis).
> Readers, you have been challenged.
>

AND I CONCUR:

There are most definitely dark areas in Scrooge's past. Consider his
treatment of Foola Zoola and his fellow headhunters during Scrooge's early
years. But I do believe that Scrooge regretted that manifestation of his
personality, and refused to engage in such practices after his "redemption"
on Bear Mountain. Latter day stories that make him out to be an outright
thief are certainly outside of the elder Scrooge's character.

--
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)

Yesterday I've been at the Torino comic exposition, named "Torino Comics".
I was there for the presentation of the new "Quartetto toscano"'s book
about Scarpa, titled "Romano Scarpa - sognando la Calidornia" ("RS -
Calidornia Dreaming" as Eta put it).

I finally had the chance to meet many list members, like Armando, Marco and
the professionals Luca Boschi and Alberto Becattini (and Andrea Sani that I
don't think has ever been on the list). And also Fabio Gadducci, that
lately has only been lurking here.

And Giorgio Cavazzano too! He was there informally and very kindly signed
us some comics and let us take pictures with him (I hope my camera worked
:-)

There was a Scarpa's exhibition, with many original pages (all "History
Re-Petes Itself" for example) and some wonderful reproductions. I took
pictures of these too, I just hope that these photos came out fine, but I
doubt it since everything was under glass and there were reflexes all
around. If the photos come out fine I'll put'em online, making a page on my
site about the event.

At 2:00 pm on schedule there was the presentation of the book, and Luca
also let Paolo introduce the INDUCKS project to the public as well, while
we were waiting for Topolino's Editor (a nice lady, I have to admit).

Paolo had also prepared a wonderful Power Point presentation for the book,
so good that we finally have not even had time enough to be able to see it
all!

Topolino's editor also took the chance in calling Romano Scarpa on the
phone (He could not come since he was busy working to the new Egmont story)
and he was very pleased for the book and very sorry not to have been able
to come.

The editor also talked a bit and I have to say that she almost admitted
that now Topolino's stories are't that great as they used to be ("But
they're still very good!"), and this definitely does her honor.

What else to say... I really liked the exposition in general, it was held
in a very big place with a lot of elbow room (a thing that you can hardly
find at expositions). And also the stands of sellers had a lot of
interesting stuff at interesting prices... definitely the best Exposition
I've been to (even though I haven't been in many ones, so I can't really
tell)

We also had Alessandro Barbucci (a young Disney author, creator of Young
Donald and the new "Witch") make some drawings for us... actually he was
there to promote a non-disney project of his, but we had him draw disney
characters anyway, you know... ;-)

I guess that's all...
(And the book, needless to say, is really wonderful)

--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo (Scarpa)

Hello, Rob!

I sent you a message this morning but it bounced back.
I just tried twice again when I came back from a little trip to the country,
using different e-mail accounts, but it won't work.

There's a link to a site which explains it: "Los Angeles Free-Net"
blocks some ISPs to block spam and such things. My provider's ISP
must be included-- instead of blocking, say, 20, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30,
they block 20-30.
I had the same problem with my site when the host, xoom switched over to nbci:
my provider at the time was the University, and they blocked access
to certain ranges of ISPs.

Do you have another e-mail I can try?
There were several things in my message, but the main one was:
THANKS A LOT for your kind message !
I won't be able to go to Lille, though. Hope you can stop in Paris.

Olivier