Hi!
Kristian Pedersen wrote:
> -- I recall a Barks onepager in which Scrooge uses a coin-operated weight.
> The Danish version gave his weight as 10 kg, I don't know about the
> original.
In the original, from US#4, his weight is said to be 20 pounds. I've always regarded Donald as a slightly heavier duck than Scrooge, but this is silly.
Best wishes
/Per-Erik
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Per-Erik Malmström
Donald, 23 kg duck?
Message 451 -
2001-04-24 at 12:03:43
Per-Erik Malmström
Donald, 23 kg duck?
Message 452 -
2001-04-24 at 12:29:21
Hi again!
Harry Fluks wrote:
> Funny. In the Dutch measure system, a pound ("pond") usually is 1/2 kg. So
> 20 pounds = 10 kg. Maybe the Danish translator thought the "pounds" were 1/2
> kg too?
I'm not really sure what you mean here. Do you think they should have written 9,08 kg instead of 10?:-)
Best,
/Per-Erik
Harry Fluks wrote:
> Funny. In the Dutch measure system, a pound ("pond") usually is 1/2 kg. So
> 20 pounds = 10 kg. Maybe the Danish translator thought the "pounds" were 1/2
> kg too?
I'm not really sure what you mean here. Do you think they should have written 9,08 kg instead of 10?:-)
Best,
/Per-Erik
Fluks, H.W.
Donald, 23 kg duck?
Message 453 -
2001-04-24 at 13:05:48
> Kristian:
> > -- I recall a Barks onepager in which Scrooge uses a
> > coin-operated weight.
> > The Danish version gave his weight as 10 kg
>
> In the original, from US#4, his weight is said to be 20
> pounds.
Funny. In the Dutch measure system, a pound ("pond") usually is 1/2 kg. So
20 pounds = 10 kg. Maybe the Danish translator thought the "pounds" were 1/2
kg too?
--Harry.
(87 kg)
> > -- I recall a Barks onepager in which Scrooge uses a
> > coin-operated weight.
> > The Danish version gave his weight as 10 kg
>
> In the original, from US#4, his weight is said to be 20
> pounds.
Funny. In the Dutch measure system, a pound ("pond") usually is 1/2 kg. So
20 pounds = 10 kg. Maybe the Danish translator thought the "pounds" were 1/2
kg too?
--Harry.
(87 kg)
Halsten Aastebol
Donald, 23 kg duck?
Message 454 -
2001-04-24 at 14:05:05
At 12:32 24.04.01 +0100, Fluks, H.W. wrote:
>I don't know, actually. How many kg is an Anglosaxon pound?
>I think I mixed it up with the British currency (pound sterling)...
>
>--Harry.
According to "Fundamentals of Physics" by Halliday & Resnick 1 pound is
0.4536 kg. This gives 1 kg = 2.205 lb (pounds).
Halsten
>I don't know, actually. How many kg is an Anglosaxon pound?
>I think I mixed it up with the British currency (pound sterling)...
>
>--Harry.
According to "Fundamentals of Physics" by Halliday & Resnick 1 pound is
0.4536 kg. This gives 1 kg = 2.205 lb (pounds).
Halsten
Fluks, H.W.
Donald, 23 kg duck?
Message 455 -
2001-04-24 at 14:32:03
Per-Erik:
>> Maybe the Danish translator thought the "pounds" were 1/2
>> kg too?
> I'm not really sure what you mean here. Do you think they
> should have written 9,08 kg instead of 10?:-)
I don't know, actually. How many kg is an Anglosaxon pound?
I think I mixed it up with the British currency (pound sterling)...
--Harry.
>> Maybe the Danish translator thought the "pounds" were 1/2
>> kg too?
> I'm not really sure what you mean here. Do you think they
> should have written 9,08 kg instead of 10?:-)
I don't know, actually. How many kg is an Anglosaxon pound?
I think I mixed it up with the British currency (pound sterling)...
--Harry.
Don Rosa
DCML digest #503
Message 456 -
2001-04-24 at 15:30:39
I've said it before... and I don't think it really needs to be repeated
because I'm sure we all agree... as regards the shape of our discussions or
our reactions to abusive messages or our advice on how to treat such abuse
or any of our opinions or (most definitely) how we choose to express those
opinions... let's make certain that we *never* do any of those things to
conform to the personal preferences and unfathomable logic of *one* list
member.
because I'm sure we all agree... as regards the shape of our discussions or
our reactions to abusive messages or our advice on how to treat such abuse
or any of our opinions or (most definitely) how we choose to express those
opinions... let's make certain that we *never* do any of those things to
conform to the personal preferences and unfathomable logic of *one* list
member.
Shelley Hanson/KlezmerAllThatJazz
More swell slang
Message 457 -
2001-04-24 at 17:08:18
Kristian said:
Another term I discovered via Barks was "snafu", which my dictionary told me
was military slang for "situation normal, all fouled up". I was surprised to
see that expression in a Disney comic, as "fouled" in that context seemed
very much like a euphemism for an altogether ruder word (I think it was in
one of Barks' later stories that I saw it). How could the editors let
"snafu" pass, but in another instance ask him to replace "Shut up!" with "Be
quiet!". Was the expression that common?
The word snafu is commonly used. Everyone over the age of 8 now (but maybe
not when Barks wrote it) probably knows that "fouled" is a euphemism, but
it's become part of the language. Myself, I think it's swell.
(Swell is slang that's so outdated it's humorous to use it, a little
tongue-in-cheek (i.e. slightly humorously/sarcastically.)
Another term I discovered via Barks was "snafu", which my dictionary told me
was military slang for "situation normal, all fouled up". I was surprised to
see that expression in a Disney comic, as "fouled" in that context seemed
very much like a euphemism for an altogether ruder word (I think it was in
one of Barks' later stories that I saw it). How could the editors let
"snafu" pass, but in another instance ask him to replace "Shut up!" with "Be
quiet!". Was the expression that common?
The word snafu is commonly used. Everyone over the age of 8 now (but maybe
not when Barks wrote it) probably knows that "fouled" is a euphemism, but
it's become part of the language. Myself, I think it's swell.
(Swell is slang that's so outdated it's humorous to use it, a little
tongue-in-cheek (i.e. slightly humorously/sarcastically.)
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
RE 503, first half
Message 458 -
2001-04-24 at 17:17:14
Hi
Daniel made me think of something
What right does a site like eg. duckhunt have to be oonline? Do we do
anyone good? Does some readers find it fun to look at our pages, and eg.
find out where to find this or that dedication or Mickey, or a cover they
hadn't seen or any such things?
We eg. had the Attaaaack and Coin stores online, cause we had reasons to
belive they wouldn't come out. Now that they're out in Scandinavia,
naturally we removed them. Is this the way to do?
Is it a reson for staying online that you think someone finds joy in
exploring your page? Finding new info because of it?
Egmont/Disney told a danish page to remove the covers of the dansih
pocketbooks from their page, as they were copyrighted material. Next step
could have been to tell they couldn't write Scrooge mcDuck on their page,
as the name is copyrighted too (Awk, I just used it...). What I think is
yelling to heaven (?) here is that the homepage egmont did for same
pocketbook might have taken the info for their page about the books either
from the page I mentioned before, or from some other fanpage.
And they have the right to do so.
H?vard (Your name reminds me of the charecter Howard the Duck, who was
once made, I don't think Disney succeeded in suing the author, or did
they?)
>
> with a very special norwegian man, that tough he was supposed to
>be born in the middle-ages!
Who was that guy? A Wiking, or a later person?
I hope you know you're welcome here, H?vard:-)
AC who has to run to the mail office now.
Daniel made me think of something
What right does a site like eg. duckhunt have to be oonline? Do we do
anyone good? Does some readers find it fun to look at our pages, and eg.
find out where to find this or that dedication or Mickey, or a cover they
hadn't seen or any such things?
We eg. had the Attaaaack and Coin stores online, cause we had reasons to
belive they wouldn't come out. Now that they're out in Scandinavia,
naturally we removed them. Is this the way to do?
Is it a reson for staying online that you think someone finds joy in
exploring your page? Finding new info because of it?
Egmont/Disney told a danish page to remove the covers of the dansih
pocketbooks from their page, as they were copyrighted material. Next step
could have been to tell they couldn't write Scrooge mcDuck on their page,
as the name is copyrighted too (Awk, I just used it...). What I think is
yelling to heaven (?) here is that the homepage egmont did for same
pocketbook might have taken the info for their page about the books either
from the page I mentioned before, or from some other fanpage.
And they have the right to do so.
H?vard (Your name reminds me of the charecter Howard the Duck, who was
once made, I don't think Disney succeeded in suing the author, or did
they?)
>
> with a very special norwegian man, that tough he was supposed to
>be born in the middle-ages!
Who was that guy? A Wiking, or a later person?
I hope you know you're welcome here, H?vard:-)
AC who has to run to the mail office now.
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Re 503 second half
Message 459 -
2001-04-24 at 17:53:56
>
>ODD BJARNE POULSEN" <skovro at get2net.dk>
>
>One of the things I love, when reading a story with scenes taking place
>in Gyro's lab is to look for NEW inventions...
>You are the writer - and supposed, in my opinion, to invent new
>Gyro-inventions.....
Hmm. IMO I don't agree with this. I would love to see references to old
inventions, invented by Barks, the once-was real life Gyro Gearloose. I
write this as a reference to Barks himself thinking Gyro was the best
picture of himself in the Duckburg Universe apart from a certain sportsman
looking like him, and certain wanted-posters.
>From: "Aliste, MaTeresa" <MaTeresa.Aliste at seamk.fi>
>I?m not interested in receiving more information from you,so please dont
>send me more mails to this mail account,
Would it be an insult to laugh at this? It's quite too easy to
unsubscribe, just read the top of the mail.
>From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
>
>Anders:
>>>Another expression you have used is ... forgot it, but it's in Once and
>>>Future duck part 2, at the very last panel. Donald used the same line in
>>>one of the earlies WDC's by Barks, the knight in armor/snow-story.
>OhyesOhyesOhyes! I like that one!
> WDC&S 41 (Feb '44, "The Duck in the Iron Pants") (p 9 panel 2)
>(album 2)
>& "The Once and Future Duck" (part 2, last page, last panel) (WDC&S
>608, Feb 97):
>
>"Nothing can save you from me!
>I am invincible!
>I am Doom itself!"
Thanks for reminding me of the english dialogue. I don't think the danish
editor took the time to find this reference.
Maybe he didn't know about it, and if so, I already know why.
KRISTIAN
>
>-- I recall a Barks onepager in which Scrooge uses a coin-operated weight.
>The Danish version gave his weight as 10 kg, I don't know about the
>original.
Interesting
also the Snafu. You have a point wondering why this went through, even the
danish censoring when words like shut up resulted in stories not being
made, and that letter from barks. telling that the next time that mother
was reading a story to her son, he would see to it that it was so boring
her little sneezing son would fall asleep on page 2!
>
HARRY
>Funny. In the Dutch measure system, a pound ("pond") usually is 1/2 kg. So
>20 pounds = 10 kg. Maybe the Danish translator thought the "pounds" were
>1/2
>kg too?
No, he didn't think it, he simply knew that one dansih pound is half a kg.
My grandma used the term all the time. She wouldn't eg. buy a certain
amount og kg's of strawberries, she bought poiunds of strawberries, they
are still mostly sold by the ?-kilo in Denmark, but theyb use that term
now, even though it's silly. I would like a ?-kg of strawberries.
I wasn't aware one english pound 8of weight) wasn't exactly ? a kg...
>
AC
(93 kg or lower at the moment I hope)
>
I thought i saw someone writing to Kriton about Barks having 2 or 3
mariages, I think it was 3, but he only had children from the first one,
as fas I know. He at least had a daughter in the frist mariage, who passed
away too early.
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
>ODD BJARNE POULSEN" <skovro at get2net.dk>
>
>One of the things I love, when reading a story with scenes taking place
>in Gyro's lab is to look for NEW inventions...
>You are the writer - and supposed, in my opinion, to invent new
>Gyro-inventions.....
Hmm. IMO I don't agree with this. I would love to see references to old
inventions, invented by Barks, the once-was real life Gyro Gearloose. I
write this as a reference to Barks himself thinking Gyro was the best
picture of himself in the Duckburg Universe apart from a certain sportsman
looking like him, and certain wanted-posters.
>From: "Aliste, MaTeresa" <MaTeresa.Aliste at seamk.fi>
>I?m not interested in receiving more information from you,so please dont
>send me more mails to this mail account,
Would it be an insult to laugh at this? It's quite too easy to
unsubscribe, just read the top of the mail.
>From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
>
>Anders:
>>>Another expression you have used is ... forgot it, but it's in Once and
>>>Future duck part 2, at the very last panel. Donald used the same line in
>>>one of the earlies WDC's by Barks, the knight in armor/snow-story.
>OhyesOhyesOhyes! I like that one!
> WDC&S 41 (Feb '44, "The Duck in the Iron Pants") (p 9 panel 2)
>(album 2)
>& "The Once and Future Duck" (part 2, last page, last panel) (WDC&S
>608, Feb 97):
>
>"Nothing can save you from me!
>I am invincible!
>I am Doom itself!"
Thanks for reminding me of the english dialogue. I don't think the danish
editor took the time to find this reference.
Maybe he didn't know about it, and if so, I already know why.
KRISTIAN
>
>-- I recall a Barks onepager in which Scrooge uses a coin-operated weight.
>The Danish version gave his weight as 10 kg, I don't know about the
>original.
Interesting
also the Snafu. You have a point wondering why this went through, even the
danish censoring when words like shut up resulted in stories not being
made, and that letter from barks. telling that the next time that mother
was reading a story to her son, he would see to it that it was so boring
her little sneezing son would fall asleep on page 2!
>
HARRY
>Funny. In the Dutch measure system, a pound ("pond") usually is 1/2 kg. So
>20 pounds = 10 kg. Maybe the Danish translator thought the "pounds" were
>1/2
>kg too?
No, he didn't think it, he simply knew that one dansih pound is half a kg.
My grandma used the term all the time. She wouldn't eg. buy a certain
amount og kg's of strawberries, she bought poiunds of strawberries, they
are still mostly sold by the ?-kilo in Denmark, but theyb use that term
now, even though it's silly. I would like a ?-kg of strawberries.
I wasn't aware one english pound 8of weight) wasn't exactly ? a kg...
>
AC
(93 kg or lower at the moment I hope)
>
I thought i saw someone writing to Kriton about Barks having 2 or 3
mariages, I think it was 3, but he only had children from the first one,
as fas I know. He at least had a daughter in the frist mariage, who passed
away too early.
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Fernando Ventura
Answer to Luis Felipe and Søren
Message 460 -
2001-04-24 at 18:05:07
Me:
>It sounds interistign...probably this stories was never published outside
>Holland, right?And probably, never in Brazil...! :(
Luis:
>How can you say such a thing being a brazilian ? In the 60's ,in brazilian
disney
>comics, there were a lot of Hiawatha ( Hawita) stories, almost in every
issue . I,
>myself, grew up with them, too ! And I remember I enjoyed them a lot.
Ops!!! I was not able to express myself as good as it need to be...! I mean,
that the DUTCH 60's Hiawatha good stories that Harry spoke to us, wasn't
probably published here...but I'm not sure, since the 60's brazilian comics
carries lot's of USA stories, and I don't remember to see any Dutch stories
on my few 60's brazilian comics! In any way, durign the 80's, I remeber
LOT's of Dutch Hiawatha around here!
I grew up with the 80's brazilian comics! :)
>We, brazilians,
>must be very proud to see that Brazil is a country that has been
uninterruptly
>issuing Disney Comics since 1950,thanks to Editora Abril, and has been
largely
>producing them, too, with many good producers, like yourself... :-)
Hum...thanks! But I'm not good!
So, you read some of my own stories?
If you did, probably you think I'm crazy...! ;)
S?ren:
>"I have another more delicate question for you. Do you think you can
>provide a scan of the following two stories, published in Brazil in
>"Mickey" in 1971 (just a single page from each):
>MK 224c S 69067 4 DD Castelos no gelo [xapp:DD,HDL,US]
>MK 226i S 69070 3 DD S? compra quem escorrega [xapp:DD,HDL]
>If you don't have a scanner, you might like to compare the art with
>that of former Gutenberghus artist Einar Lagerwall (...)"
Yes, I have a scanner...I don't just have this two comics!!!
Baaaaawwwww....!!!
Sorry for this, but maybe another brazilian member can have the coimics and
do a scan for you!
Thanks,
Fernando!
>It sounds interistign...probably this stories was never published outside
>Holland, right?And probably, never in Brazil...! :(
Luis:
>How can you say such a thing being a brazilian ? In the 60's ,in brazilian
disney
>comics, there were a lot of Hiawatha ( Hawita) stories, almost in every
issue . I,
>myself, grew up with them, too ! And I remember I enjoyed them a lot.
Ops!!! I was not able to express myself as good as it need to be...! I mean,
that the DUTCH 60's Hiawatha good stories that Harry spoke to us, wasn't
probably published here...but I'm not sure, since the 60's brazilian comics
carries lot's of USA stories, and I don't remember to see any Dutch stories
on my few 60's brazilian comics! In any way, durign the 80's, I remeber
LOT's of Dutch Hiawatha around here!
I grew up with the 80's brazilian comics! :)
>We, brazilians,
>must be very proud to see that Brazil is a country that has been
uninterruptly
>issuing Disney Comics since 1950,thanks to Editora Abril, and has been
largely
>producing them, too, with many good producers, like yourself... :-)
Hum...thanks! But I'm not good!
So, you read some of my own stories?
If you did, probably you think I'm crazy...! ;)
S?ren:
>"I have another more delicate question for you. Do you think you can
>provide a scan of the following two stories, published in Brazil in
>"Mickey" in 1971 (just a single page from each):
>MK 224c S 69067 4 DD Castelos no gelo [xapp:DD,HDL,US]
>MK 226i S 69070 3 DD S? compra quem escorrega [xapp:DD,HDL]
>If you don't have a scanner, you might like to compare the art with
>that of former Gutenberghus artist Einar Lagerwall (...)"
Yes, I have a scanner...I don't just have this two comics!!!
Baaaaawwwww....!!!
Sorry for this, but maybe another brazilian member can have the coimics and
do a scan for you!
Thanks,
Fernando!
Kristian PEDERSEN
Donald, 23 kg duck?
Message 461 -
2001-04-24 at 19:57:10
> Kristian Pedersen wrote:
> > -- I recall a Barks onepager in which Scrooge uses a coin-operated
> weight.
> > The Danish version gave his weight as 10 kg, I don't know about the
> > original.
>
Per-Erik Malmstr?m wrote:
> In the original, from US#4, his weight is said to be 20 pounds. I've
> always regarded Donald as a slightly heavier duck than Scrooge, but this
> is silly.
>
-- Perhaps the onepager took place shortly after the 10-pager in
which Scrooge's horse competed against the maharajah's tiger on the race
track. At the end of that story, Scrooge's weight is negative (!), and one
would imagine it would take a while before his weight was back to normal ;)
Kristian
> > -- I recall a Barks onepager in which Scrooge uses a coin-operated
> weight.
> > The Danish version gave his weight as 10 kg, I don't know about the
> > original.
>
Per-Erik Malmstr?m wrote:
> In the original, from US#4, his weight is said to be 20 pounds. I've
> always regarded Donald as a slightly heavier duck than Scrooge, but this
> is silly.
>
-- Perhaps the onepager took place shortly after the 10-pager in
which Scrooge's horse competed against the maharajah's tiger on the race
track. At the end of that story, Scrooge's weight is negative (!), and one
would imagine it would take a while before his weight was back to normal ;)
Kristian
Fluks, H.W.
Don Rosa signing in Norway
Message 462 -
2001-04-24 at 20:39:45
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld mailed me the following link:
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigvaldg/sigvald/tronsmo.html
Does anyone know who's that guy sitting next to Don?
--Harry.
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigvaldg/sigvald/tronsmo.html
Does anyone know who's that guy sitting next to Don?
--Harry.
Håvard Hesjevoll
(no subject)
Message 463 -
2001-04-24 at 22:54:07
Sigvald Grøsfjeld mailed me the following link:
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigvaldg/sigvald/tronsmo.html
Does anyone know who's that guy sitting next to Don?
--Harry.
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Message 464 -
2001-04-24 at 22:55:18
Sigvald Grøsfjeld mailed me the following link:
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~sigvaldg/sigvald/tronsmo.html
Does anyone know who's that guy sitting next to Don?
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Message 465 -
2001-04-24 at 23:15:49
PETRI:
>The problem is that I got my first
>experiance with Gottfredson when my Disney interest was subsiding. It just
>wasn't cool to be 14 and a Disney-fan. So I didn't get to know he's works
>too well at that time.
Anders Christian Siveb¾k:
Hmm. Neither when I was 14. But I don't think I would have survived at the
time, without Duckburg. Being mobbed from 1st to 10th grade isn't
something that brings many friends, so my friends where in Duckburg. what
did I care if it was in or out to read about ducks.
And I reply:
I am 14 years old and Disney-fan. Folks at school don´t think that´s so
cool, but when I starts talking to them, it´s obvious that they (at least
the most of them) read Donald Duck-stories. And actually like it! I have not
been mobbed because of this, so I´m suggest I´m really lucky. (Even if they
think I´m crazy when I use all my money on old Barks-books...)
;) -Håvard
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>The problem is that I got my first
>experiance with Gottfredson when my Disney interest was subsiding. It just
>wasn't cool to be 14 and a Disney-fan. So I didn't get to know he's works
>too well at that time.
Anders Christian Siveb¾k:
Hmm. Neither when I was 14. But I don't think I would have survived at the
time, without Duckburg. Being mobbed from 1st to 10th grade isn't
something that brings many friends, so my friends where in Duckburg. what
did I care if it was in or out to read about ducks.
And I reply:
I am 14 years old and Disney-fan. Folks at school don´t think that´s so
cool, but when I starts talking to them, it´s obvious that they (at least
the most of them) read Donald Duck-stories. And actually like it! I have not
been mobbed because of this, so I´m suggest I´m really lucky. (Even if they
think I´m crazy when I use all my money on old Barks-books...)
;) -Håvard
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