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Timo Ronkainen
> 2. (jeff yaciuk)
>Hay does anyone no if there any Chat Lines out there

Duckhunt has chat
http://www.duckhunt.de/

>would just like to learn a little more. What kind of books,magazines,comics
>there is out there.

I suggest you should read all of those from web pages about Disney comics.
Start from DCML pages. http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/

> 7. I need help with some details... (Olaf Solstrand)

I´m sure you already got answers to these, but here..

>Two: What was the name of the wife of Carl Barks?

Garé, more precisely Margaret.

>First of all; Gyro's workshop will in my story contain lots of old Gyro
>Gearloose-inventions used in Carl Barks/Don Rosa-stories. But WHICH ONES
>SHOULD I USE? Can you please send me suggestions? (and I would love it if
>you attached scanned drawings of that invention)

This would require some time to look all those stories. And scannig them..

Timo

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Håvard Hesjevoll
Apostolis Trikourakis wrote:
-It's from Barks' "Secret Of Atlantis". Scrooge buys
all the 1916 quarters, keeps one and makes it the
"rarest" coin in the world.

And I reply:
I can´t remember this story! Does anybody know if it has been published in
Norway?

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Daniel Van Eijmeren
ANDERS SIVEBAEK (to me?), 22-04-2001:

> What do you find most insulting? Calling another persons page crap
> or saying that one laughed from reading messages from the person?

I think that *any* insult is wrong. Sometimes messages look to me
as if they mean to say:

"Hey! Let's just laugh at that silly IDIOT who is insulting us!"

That the replying person has become insulting *himself* doesn't seem
to be important at all. Why should it? All the blame goes to the person
who started it, anyway.

I think that is unfair. It reminds me of "halo" and "horn" effects:

Halo effect: Someone does *one* thing good,
so he must be good in *all* the other things he does.

Horn effect: Someone does *one* thing bad,
so he must be bad in *all* the other things he does.

If someone thinks that a person has started being offensive, then
I think he should try not to be the *next* person who's offensive.

If people decide that they have the right to answer insults by sending
insults themselves, it's their full right. But I think they then should
remember that they're guilty themselves, too, in having fueled a
flame-war.

There's a big difference in being defensive and being offensive.

And anyone who sents a request to ignore someone, should (IMO) know that
they are not following their own advice. I myself look at such a request
as just another potential contribution to the flame-war. (By saying this
I'm not discussing the *right* to send such "ignore requests", I'm just
wondering what's the *point* of sending them.)

This is just my opinion in general. Not personally intended to anyone.
As a matter of fact, I think these kind of situations are not limited to
this mailing list anyway, they're part of that other big subscription:
being a member of planet Earth. :-)

Best wishes,

--- Daniel
Daniel Van Eijmeren
ANDERS SIVEBAEK (to me?), 22-04-2001:

> Keeping out of mind, that it at one time affected the page I contribute
> to myself, it has been quite humouristic, to read the many lists in the
> last days.

I found the copyright discussion itself very interesting.

I think that one thing hasn't been pointed out in that discussion:
*anyone* who uses scans of material he hasn't drawn/written himself,
without official permission, should already think about being a thief or
not.

Whether are not making scans/xeroxes available is a *moral* theft is not
important for the copyright laws if the owner of that material becomes
angry.

And if someone decides to steal that scan, then it's just a stolen picture
being stolen *again*. That's not an opinion. That's part of the copyright
laws we're defending.

As it seems to turn out nowadays, even *linking* to a site with copyrighted
material is seen as copyright infringement by some judges.

I hope that forbidding links won't become part of copyright laws. Otherwise
we might get this discussion again, but then about linking:
"Hey! Someone has stolen my site's address and he copied it onto his site!"

Having copyright laws is a good thing, but by referring to it, one might
miss the parts which might cut his own fingers.

Best wishes,

--- Daniel
Håvard Hesjevoll
Hi, everybody!

I have written a few messages to the DCML, but I have never introduced
myself, so I guess you dont´t know who I am... Well, I am a 14 years old boy
that lives in Norway, and I have loved Disney comics since my earliest
memory. I have drawn my own comics since I was 7 years old, and I hope that
I can draw comics for the Disney company, when I grow up. My biggest heroes
are Carl Barks and Don Rosa. I became an really big Rosa-fan in 1996 after
seeing him on a norwegian TV-show, sitting talking about he´s story "The ten
avatars", with a very special norwegian man, that tough he was supposed to
be born in the middle-ages! (If you reed this Don; do you remember it?) I
met him in Oslo this spring, and that was really a great moment for me...
The DCML seems very nice and thank you for the interesting answers I´ve got
to my questions.

Best wishes,
Håvard!
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Olivier
Gilles:
>>I remember a one page Barksian story where Daisy's phone number is given, but
>>I can't remember where. could somebody help me?

Sure-- but don't tell Donald! ; )
Inside back cover U$ 7 (Sept - Nov '54):
Citrus 2437
U$ makes a mistake (he calls Citrus 2734) and chats with Mr Smith.

Now, Gladstone's table of contents (U$ One-Pagers Album 1) says
that Bark only did that art on that one. If he didn't write it, is it still a Barksian
fact? (Yeah, nitpicking, I know)
I'd rather says yes in this instance-- not a major thing, like Donald's origins...

Olivier
SRoweCanoe
As for Barks's wives, I can't recall if Gare was his second or third wife. I
do know that Barks had children from the earlier marriage - at least a
daughter.

I recall when Gladstone was doing comics here, I was so disppointed with the
"D" stories, that I was leaping for joy when they would print an occasional
italian story.
Of course, I have stated my complaints about the D copycat artists before...
And it's possible that these were the best Italian stories....

Now, I'd be delighted to read any Disney comics, irregardless.

Steven Rowe
ODD BJARNE POULSEN
One of the things I love, when reading a story with scenes taking place in Gyro's lab is to look for NEW inventions...
You are the writer - and supposed, in my opinion, to invent new Gyro-inventions.....
/99E

----- Original Message -----
From: Olaf Solstrand <harryklein at hotmail.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: 23. april 2001 11:42
Subject: I need help with some details...

> Hi again! I wonder if you could help me with some details for the story I'm
> working on? I'm in the research phase now... looking for information, and I
> thought I might could use you guys to help me on it...
>
> First of all; Gyro's workshop will in my story contain lots of old Gyro
> Gearloose-inventions used in Carl Barks/Don Rosa-stories. But WHICH ONES
> SHOULD I USE? Can you please send me suggestions? (and I would love it if
> you attached scanned drawings of that invention)
>
> Two: What was the name of the wife of Carl Barks? (I need it because on of
> my figures is ment to be a tribute to Carl... She comes from the Klamath
> Fall-area and her name is the same as Carl's wife...) I have read somewhere
> that her name is Gar?, but I would love to have that one confirmed.
>
> I promise that my story will contain tons of sweet details. I can give you
> the title now - it is "The best of all inventions". I just cross my fingers
> and hope that Egmont will use it...
>
> BTW, I've got lots of positive mails about me being a story writer. Thanks
> to all of you!
>
> -olaf-
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>
>
>
Aliste, MaTeresa
I?m not interested in receiving more information from you,so please dont
send me more mails to this mail account,
Thanks.
Francesco Spreafico
From: "Petri Kanninen" <pkannine at cc.hut.fi>

> I would love to have a resurrection of daily strips with a continous
> plot.

My dream is for somebody to call Scarpa do that. He was BORN to do that and
he (almost) never managed because "they wouldn't sell".

He did some regular (in format) stories that had the feelings and the rythm
of Gottrfredson's strips (like "Tapioco VI" of course), and then he did
four long strip stories, at the beginning of the Nineties, I love them.
(but they were published on "Topolino", not a newspaper...

Still my dream would be to see him publish one strip a day on a newspaper,
black and white... oh that would be so wonderful!

--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo (Scarpa)
http://heinlein.cjb.net (RAH)
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
PETRI
>The problem is that I got my first
>experiance with Gottfredson when my Disney interest was subsiding. It just
>wasn't cool to be 14 and a Disney-fan. So I didn't get to know he's works
>too well at that time.
Hmm. Neither when I was 14. But I don't think I would have survived at the
time, without Duckburg. Being mobbed from 1st to 10th grade isn't
something that brings many friends, so my friends where in Duckburg. what
did I care if it was in or out to read about ducks.

Sad thoughts go away!

KRITON
>Does anyone know the name of Barks' *first* wife?
I will be able to find it, in the weekend, as I believe I have a contact
who is daughter of either her or the second wife. I'm almost sure she's
from the first mariage.
I on the other hand thought the Sharkie-reference to lawyers was a result
of the 2nd divorce. Then Barks would have found Gare as he was doing US 4,
about Hawaii, and that's where Gar? (?) is from.

>> I promise that my story will contain tons of sweet details.
>Although this is something to look forward to for us older fans, make
>sure that the story does not hinge on them, and that someone unfamiliar
>with them will stil enjoy it.
Good point. But that's something an artist or writer has to decide - if
you really want to have many references you should.

Nice list of inventions Olivier!
and you're right, the inventions would maybe have to be from before that
time.

Shelley (?):
>
>"Doggone it" is and has been for many years a common slang expression -- a
>mild exclamation, equal to "darn it" -- which is a non-profane way to say
>"Damn it." It is not considered cursing, and saying "doggone it" to native
>English speakers now would indicate that you are VERY outdated in American
>slang -- or that you have watched a lot of Westerns. (John Wayne and other
>cowboy heroes have been known to say "doggone it.")
It's a good expression anyway. This makes me think of Superman (I) when
Clark uses the word swell, that was old at the time too I suppose, at
least Lois looked like it was.
>
KRISTIAN
>One
>of them is "Oh my stars and little comets!".

DON
>
>I think that's my own personal favorite, and one that Barks invented -- at
>least I've never seen or heard it elsewhere.
I could tell that when I read the PP and CK books. I got the feeling it
was one of Lance's favorite expressions, now I know where it's from.

>Another favorite is "Great
>howling crashwagons!" I don't even know what a "crashwagon" is, but one
>that is great and is howling sounds *really* scary! When I first started
>writing U$ stories for Gladstone in 1986, I made a long list of Barksisms
>to use in my dialogue, but I don't think I ever used more than a few of my
>favorites, like those two.
I see.
Well, I often wondered about the crashwagons, when I read Cash Flow, where
the ducks are in the car saying that.
Another expression you have used is ... forgot it, but it's in Once and
Future duck part 2, at the very last panel. Donald used the same line in
one of the earlies WDC's by Barks, the knight in armor/snow-story.

Daniel:
>and in that page in Ataaaaaack when the beagle-boys
>are breaking into the cellar(?) in the moneybing there
>are in the background a painting of Matilda!!!
And Hortense is there too. behind.
What confused me was to see her have red hair in the danish coloring. It's
a saying that red-haired's a hot-tempered, so it's possible. It's just
that her hair is brown in the US and Picsou-versions. In Denmark it was
usually yellow, greenish yellow (!) or brown. Yes, I didn't think
hair-colorings where invented back then. It's a colorist-problem.

Yours
AC
Vidar Svendsen
H?vard Hesjevoll wrote:
> I can?t remember this story! Does anybody know if it has been published in
> Norway?

Godbiter 52 (1984)
Gullbok 1991: Klassiske bobler

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Vidar Svendsen http://members.home.com/vsvendsen/

And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
Olivier
Anders:
>>Another expression you have used is ... forgot it, but it's in Once and
>>Future duck part 2, at the very last panel. Donald used the same line in
>>one of the earlies WDC's by Barks, the knight in armor/snow-story.
OhyesOhyesOhyes! I like that one!
WDC&S 41 (Feb '44, "The Duck in the Iron Pants") (p 9 panel 2) (album 2)
& "The Once and Future Duck" (part 2, last page, last panel) (WDC&S 608, Feb 97):

"Nothing can save you from me!
I am invincible!
I am Doom itself!"

I love William Van Horn's dialogues too: he always comes up with crazy expressions--
just as crazy as his plots

Olivier
Agridiotis
Olaf Solstrand said:
> By the way: What are your opinions about Hortense, Matilda and Quackmore?
> Are they still alive in the mid-50s? Where do they live? Are Matilda
> married? Do they have much contact with Donald/HDL?
> (my opinion: They are still alive and they have moved back to Scotland
with
> Della and her husband)
In my opinion they are alive and Rosa one day he will use them in one more
fantastic script. In his private "Duck Family tree" Rosa shows that Matilda
is married with Ludwig Von Drake. I am sure that they haven't contact with
Donald/HDL.
Yes, maybe. But where they stay. Scrooge goes some times in Scotland and he
visits the castle but we don't see them.
We will see propably in other story
Best Wishes!

George Agridiotis, Nicosia - Cyprus
E-mail: agridiot at spidernet.net
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixwebsite/
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Kristian PEDERSEN
Don Rosa wrote (about Donald's weight of 23 kg):
I just made it up myself on the spot for that calculation. I don't recall
how I came up with it, but I probably simply guessed at what a person would
weigh if he was only about 3.5 feet tall... or, say, about waist tall to a
6 ft. adult. But since I am not very experienced with metric weights, I
can't vouch for how well I guessed.

-- I recall a Barks onepager in which Scrooge uses a coin-operated weight.
The Danish version gave his weight as 10 kg, I don't know about the
original.

> Another favorite is "Great
> howling crashwagons!" I don't even know what a "crashwagon" is, but one
> that is great and is howling sounds *really* scary!
>
M. Mitchell Marmel replied:
> Aviation generic term for any airport vehicle (fire truck, ambulance,
> etc.) meant for dealing with what was once called a 'crash' but is
> now called an 'incident'. However, 'Great howling incidentwagons'
> just doesn't have the same je ne sais quoi... :D
>
-- No, it sure doesn't :)

Another term I discovered via Barks was "snafu", which my dictionary told me
was military slang for "situation normal, all fouled up". I was surprised to
see that expression in a Disney comic, as "fouled" in that context seemed
very much like a euphemism for an altogether ruder word (I think it was in
one of Barks' later stories that I saw it). How could the editors let
"snafu" pass, but in another instance ask him to replace "Shut up!" with "Be
quiet!". Was the expression that common?

Aha - I just did an internet search, which turned up an interesting entry in
Donald Markstein's Toonopedia: "Private Snafu"
(http://www.toonopedia.com/snafu.htm).

Kristian
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