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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 6/6/2002 4:41:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cwiljes at bol.de
writes:

> Are there other non-Disney characters which appeared in Disney comics or
> movies? I rememember some pages of William Van Horn's creator owned
> "Nervous
> Rex" (http://www.nervousrex.de) in the U.S. digest sized "Disney
> Adventures". Do you know more examples?
>
Bone appeared in the Disney Adventures too,
and of course, Zorro appeared in many Disney comics

steven rowe
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Hey Rob,

>I do not remember the other Bucky
>Bug strips by Taliaferrom (which followed); but only the last one "Bucky
>Returns to Junkville", includes June Bug. That is the only possibility
among
>the Taliaferro strips.

This is the story that includes the wedding!
It's reprinted in WDC&S 28.

Best wishes, David
Timo Ronkainen
> > Are there other non-Disney characters which appeared in Disney comics or
> > movies? Bone appeared in the Disney Adventures too,
> and of course, Zorro appeared in many Disney comics

Being precise, Pinocchio (Carlo Collodi), Snow White (old fairy tale), Bambi
(Felix Salten), Winnie the Pooh (Milne) etc, are all non-Disney characters
(just like Zorro)!

Timo

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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 6/6/2002 5:53:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
timoro at hotmail.com writes:

> Being precise, Pinocchio (Carlo Collodi), Snow White (old fairy tale), Bambi
>
> (Felix Salten), Winnie the Pooh (Milne) etc, are all non-Disney characters
> (just like Zorro)!
>

right, but Zorro unlike the rest - can not currently be reprinted by Disney
without a liscence from the Zorro people....

steven rowe
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Early bird?
----- Original Message -----
From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: non-Disney characters in Disney comics

In a message dated 6/6/2002 5:53:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, timoro at hotmail.com writes:
Paolo C
You can also buy a (nicer) hard cover version of it through Disney Italia or in selected Italian bookstores. However, I don't think that Disney Italia will ship abroad.

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Vic Pratt
Hello chums

I must say I rather enjoy it when the discussion gets
a bit more heated on the list. I like what I have seen
of Franquin...not much admittedly because if you think
things are bad in the rest of Europe comicwise you
should check out the U.K. Only a tiny fraction of Euro
comics ever get published in English. In most cases
they sell badly and so we never get a sense of the
vast diversity of series and creators out there. I'm
working on learning French first, so I can crack all
those bandes dessinees, but it's not enough: what
about the fumetti? And all the rest. And as for UK
comics, there are very few and they are gradually
dwindling away, like the story papers did before them.
Indigenous comics that still exist: The Beano, The
Dandy, 2000AD, Viz. The rest are superhero U.S.
tie-ins or psuedo-comics/magazines for small children
(there are probably some Disney related titles, but
nothing of any interest to the adult reader). Which
brings me rather ramblingly to my point, in response
to the query about UK duck comics, basically I'm sorry
to say there ain't any. I wish there were. As I might
have said before, I'd buy them!

Back issues of Disney U.S. titles are hard to find
too: the comic shops here don't really bother with
them, seeing as there is no market for them. Try GOSH
in Gt. Russell St., London, or THEY WALK AMONG US in
Richmond, Surrey. There's nowhere else around where I
am really.

Cheerio
VIC

P.S. Who is this bloke Fethry Duck? Can you describe
what he looks like?

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Cwiljes
Timo Ronkainen wrote:

> Being precise, Pinocchio (Carlo Collodi), Snow White (old fairy tale),
Bambi
> (Felix Salten), Winnie the Pooh (Milne) etc, are all non-Disney characters

> (just like Zorro)!

Yes, the question is much more complicated than I originally thought. There
are Disney characters which are "public domain", characters for which they
bought the rights (Winnie the Pooh (?)) and characters which they are only
allowed to use on a one-time basis (Zorro)

But in contrast to Franquins Marsupilami, Jeff Smith' Bone or William Van
Horn's Nervous Rex in all examples cited above the Disney studios had a
great creative input shaping the character which finally appeared in the
comic or on the screen. In some cases this goes so far that many people
believe that the character IS in fact a Disney creation instead of something
which they built on (Winnie Pooh, Bambi, Pinocchio, ...). Marsu, Bone & Rex
in contrast had been fully defined and shaped characters when Disney used
them.

Cord
Cwiljes
TIMO>>> There is also some quite serious errors there.
HARRY>>> And Cord gave a very sensible and consistent answer, spelling-wise:
CORD>>> Thank for these correction.

Harry was so nice to explain it to me: I made rather "creative" use of the
plural - just like Timo did before.

Because I don't believe in coincidence there must be some deeper reason
behind this. Timo started with a verb in singular ("is") and amplifies this
to a subject in plural ("errors"). On the other hand I start with the
article in plural ("these") to reduce it to a subject in singular
("correction"). So what we did was create a tension curve where Timo rose
and I fell. Let's call it "interactive prose" art. It was all done
intentional, of course, and we both wanted to express profound insights into
the nature of life and the world in general ;-)

Cord
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
--- Vic Pratt <thebeesong at yahoo.co.uk> skrev:

> P.S. Who is this bloke Fethry Duck? Can you describe
> what he looks like?

You can see him in this page:
http://duckman.pettho.com/tree/v_american.html

He is the one to the right side of Gladstone Gander.

Sigvald :-)

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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
> William Van Horn's Nervous Rex

Oh! So Van Horn has also done non-Disney comics just
like The Pertwillaby Papers and Captain Kentucky.

Sigvald :-)

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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 6/6/2002 7:18:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sigvald4 at yahoo.no writes:

> > William Van Horn's Nervous Rex
>
> Oh! So Van Horn has also done non-Disney comics just
> like The Pertwillaby Papers and Captain Kentucky.
>

he also did PossibleMan, a sorta superhero book

steven rowe
Cwiljes
>> William Van Horn's Nervous Rex (http://www.nervousrex.de)

Sigvald wrote:

> Oh! So Van Horn has also done non-Disney comics just
> like The Pertwillaby Papers and Captain Kentucky.

Yes - and they are great. In the U.S. Nervous Rex has been published in 10
issues by Blackthorne. If anybody is interested in the German edition, which
reprints about half of the stories in two albums, please drop me a line in
private eMail and I will send you those two completely free of charge. I
recently saved all remaining copies from a fate too terrible to imagine and
would like to give some of them a good new home.

Cord
Crocker, John
Quick note about non-Disney characters in Disney Adventures.
Disney Adventures is more of a magazine than it is a comic book. Though it features a few comic stories in each issue, it should be mainly seen as a kid's magazine that runs stories and such about any character or individual currently popular with kids whether Disney or not.
For example, recent issues showing SpiderMan or Harry Potter does not mean there has become any relationship between those characters and Disney.
Quick question: here in the U.S., people constantly assume that characters such as Harry Potter, Shrek, and even Pokemon are Disney because they are considered to be child characters/animated. Does this type of confusion occur in Europe and beyond?
-john crocker.
Cwiljes
Don Rosa wrote:

> I was not influenced by Franquin because
> I grew up in America and I never saw his work.
> In fact, even now, I don't know who he is or
> what he did or does. I'm that ignorant.

You should definitely give it a try:
http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=1887911510

Cord
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