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Don Rosa wrote:

> I was not influenced by Franquin because
> I grew up in America and I never saw his work.
> In fact, even now, I don't know who he is or
> what he did or does. I'm that ignorant.

You should definitely give it a try:
http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?isbn=1887911510

And here they even have one copy available, if for a very high price,
though:
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=016972
47627&snumber=1

This is totally incredible for European readers: Only two volumes of
Franquin have been translated for the U.S. market and to get them you have
to search at the country's largest back-issue dealer.

But then who knows Jack Kirby's "New Gods" on our side of the big drink?

Cord

John Crocker wrote:

> Quick question: here in the U.S., people constantly
> assume that characters such as Harry Potter, Shrek,
> and even Pokemon are Disney because they are considered
> to be child characters/animated. Does this type of
> confusion occur in Europe and beyond?

At least here in Germany nobody would think that Harry Potter or the
Pokemons have anything to do with Disney. There is some confusion though
where very Disney-like films are concerned, but this should be expected,
since these are often done by former Disney animators (Don Bluth, John
Lasseter). In Europe the name Disney is much more assoziated with comics
than in the U.S. and there the distinction between Disney and non-Disney is
pretty clear. In Germany we had the "Fix & Foxi"-Comics created by Rolf
Kauka, who has sometimes been called "the German Disney" and who also tried
to make his name into a brand for quality comics - with varying success:

http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=97

Cord

Original message from Steven Rowe: right, but as far as I know they have not run SpiderMan or Harry Potter comic strips, have they? I havent gotten an issue in awhile, but they did used to run Disney comics, like PepperAnn, etc, with an occasional liscenced material like Bone or a rock star comic.

In regards to my comments about Disney Adventures, comic strips are not run about SpiderMan, Harry Potter, etc..., just articles.
As far as strips featuring Bone and such, I have just recently started receiving Disney Adventures on a regular basis, so could not really answer that question. If the comic strips they feature do stretch out past "Disney" characters and feature other characters by "Disney" artists, then I will have to start taking a better look so as not to miss anything.

Thanks!

-john crocker.

P.S. I personally enjoyed the small bits of Marsupilami that appeared here in the U.S. and don't understand why the character was ruined. Was it b/c the TV show failed or b/c the way the character was presented on the show?

-john crocker wrote:

>P.S. I personally enjoyed the small bits of Marsupilami that appeared here in the U.S. and don't >understand why the character was ruined. Was it b/c the TV show failed or b/c the way the >character was presented on the show?

Well in same manner like the Schtroumpfs were ruined by Hanna Barbera... They and Marsu was too much nice, too much normal beings... the femine smurf was in the comics the temptation of all the others, not only some lil' sister of a bunch of elves...

Marsupilami is like a living spirit of liberty, I always think that he was the dream of adventure that Franquin, Jije, Will and (who more was there?) found in his travel to California and Mexico... (remember Palombia)
Marsupilami is like a savage version of the Lil' Abner's Schmoo. He can punch with his tail, use it to spring, eat from venom champignons to piranhas and in a one shot of an Spirou cover, he jump and sail side to side with a whale...

He is like our more troubling pup, but more (very more) dangerous :)

Well, you know Disney. Keep waiting Betty Page in the Rocketeer film he he, wait Tarzan eating non cooked meat...

Fabio

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[Wiljes, Cord] > . This is funny and quite serious at the same time which
does not contradict but fits perfectly together. I think that is one of the
major characteristics of Franquins work (more obvious in his later works),
which might be called an equivalent of a crying clown - funny and sad
simultaneously. Take away one side - and you get a one-sided character.

Isn't it the same with Barks? Donald is funny, yes, but in Barks' best
stories he also is a tragic figure, the eternal loser, a duck in hopeless
defiance against fate. His uncle is wealthy, his nephews are clever, his
girl-friend takes advantage of him and each time he succeeds in any area
catastrophe will follow immediately afterwards. This is why Barks' Donald is
so much more than just a funny animal - and why we love him so: he is a real
person, nut just some character.

Cord

P.S.: I will post some Marsu sample pages to our Top 100 List (
http://www.top100comics.de <http://www.top100comics.de> ) this afternoon so
everybody will be able to see what all the fuss us about.

This week one of these thick pocket books (almost 500
pages) was published here in Norway. This time it?s a
book about seeking for treasures. Included in this
book is a 4 chapter story about a treasure which was
once hidden by Cornelius Coot as a gift to the future
Duckburgians. A nice story, but IMO there are a few
matters which reduces the quality of this story.

These are:
1) Both Cornelius Coot and the statue of Cornelius
Coot are poorly drawn.
2) This story claims that the statue was raised in
Cornelius? own time, while most other sources (both
american and European) claim that it was risen in
1952.
3) Donald is "in war" with a wrong neighbour. Why
would anyone disregard J. Jones as Donald?s aggressive
neighbour?
4) The treasure (an enormous amounts of diamonds) is
not realistic. How could a poor young town in the west
be able to collect such a fortune? Not to speak about
Cornelius alone? And even if they did, why would they
hide it all for a distant future instead of using
their fortune on them selves?

Sigvald :-)

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Frank Bubacz

>It is well-known that Ludwig van Drake had its TV debut in "An adventure
>in color" in 1961. His debut in comics, though, is slightly more obscure:
>INDUCKS, COA and HooZoo assume that he first appeared in his own LVD
>series.

Hoozoo says the first appearance is in "Ludwig Von Drake 1"
(the comic-book, november 1961).
But in Inducks, an earlier appearance is listed in Dell Giant #49
(HD&L Back to Schoool, october 1961). The comic itself probably
sold one or two months before (?). This may be the real first one,
although not the first story produced with him.

----------- Frank ---------
However, as I could find out, he had his print debut
somewhere in the Taliaferro daily strips. There even was one being
published the same day he had his screen debut, cryptically described (in
INDUCKS
and COA) "paintings for LVD visit", although LVD is not listed to appear in
it... As this particular strip has been republished on some occasions,
maybe
he WAS in it after all???

If anybody is in possession of one of these publications, could he or
she
please tell me if Ludwig can be seen in this strip or not?

http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/ZD+61-09-24
-------------------------

As far as I remember, Ludwig appears on a painting in the
last panel. So Ludwig is not really in the story, although we see his face.

I think he appears in the next strip, from October 1. No info in Inducks
though.

But even then, I would say that the Dell Giant comic book is earlier.

Francois
http://coa.duckburg.dk

I maestri Disney oro:

It would be interesting for me to learn about the five stories they chose
for the Scarpa one?!

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