> After 7 years, it'a reality!!!
Make that eight.
With 0-2 in the 80th minute, my guess is that Brazil will win. So -
congratulations!
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Topic: 200206
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Olaf Solstrand
Completely OT: Congratulations Fernando!
Message 541 -
2002-06-30 at 15:34:58
Timo Ronkainen
Darkest Africa's (other) Artist(s)
Message 542 -
2002-06-30 at 15:50:45
> > I wish the whole story had been redrawn by Jippes...
Indeed, it would have been much better. I had to check Inducks what else
Vlottes have made. Not much, few Hiawatha stories. No mention about this
Darcest Africa BTW.
Timo
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Indeed, it would have been much better. I had to check Inducks what else
Vlottes have made. Not much, few Hiawatha stories. No mention about this
Darcest Africa BTW.
Timo
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Stefan Persson
Darkest Africa's (other) Artist(s)
Message 543 -
2002-06-30 at 15:52:35
----- Original Message -----
From: "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Darkest Africa's (other) Artist(s)
> > > I wish the whole story had been redrawn by Jippes...
>
> Indeed, it would have been much better. I had to check Inducks what else
> Vlottes have made. Not much, few Hiawatha stories. No mention about this
> Darcest Africa BTW.
No. We currently use the same code for both versions in Inducks, with a
"changes" field for the Jippes/Vlottes version.
Stefan
From: "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: Darkest Africa's (other) Artist(s)
> > > I wish the whole story had been redrawn by Jippes...
>
> Indeed, it would have been much better. I had to check Inducks what else
> Vlottes have made. Not much, few Hiawatha stories. No mention about this
> Darcest Africa BTW.
No. We currently use the same code for both versions in Inducks, with a
"changes" field for the Jippes/Vlottes version.
Stefan
Timo Ronkainen
Darkest Africa's (other) Artist(s)
Message 544 -
2002-06-30 at 16:43:44
>From: "Stefan Persson" No. We currently use the same code for both versions
>in Inducks, with a
>"changes" field for the Jippes/Vlottes version.
Ah, so it wasn't missing info at all. Well, maybe it's simpler that way. It
surely might have been a bit confusing to list them as separate
stories/versions.
I pressume this version had to made because there were no good quality films
available to print.
With new digital scanning it could perhaps be possible to have good printing
version from original issues of MOC, I guess. But those native African
people should still be changed to more politically corrected before
reprinting. Or how recently the *original* Barks' version have been
reprinted? CBL in Color had Jippes/Vlottes version.
Timo
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>in Inducks, with a
>"changes" field for the Jippes/Vlottes version.
Ah, so it wasn't missing info at all. Well, maybe it's simpler that way. It
surely might have been a bit confusing to list them as separate
stories/versions.
I pressume this version had to made because there were no good quality films
available to print.
With new digital scanning it could perhaps be possible to have good printing
version from original issues of MOC, I guess. But those native African
people should still be changed to more politically corrected before
reprinting. Or how recently the *original* Barks' version have been
reprinted? CBL in Color had Jippes/Vlottes version.
Timo
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Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
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Ramapith
DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
Message 545 -
2002-06-30 at 20:31:35
Hey, everyone...
RE: DEMONTOOTH MOUNTAIN
I've checked and yes, it is also in DDOS 203 ("The Golden Christmas Tree"), making it a landmark that Barks used more than once.
RE: TRANSLATIONS
There was a period in the 1950s, at least, when translators did seem to translate from non-English languages. I have a set of discarded Egmont master pages from 1957. Danish type has been glued over the original English. Swedish has been glued on top of the Danish and German on top of the Swedish. Given the way that the translations from each country read, it appears that each country translated the story from the previous country's translation!
This would seem to be a very unwieldy process. But the margarine factory situation seems to be evidence that it's what was indeed done. (So Erika Fuchs did not, I can only suppose, always work from English.)
Also RE: MARGARINE FACTORY
The Vicar-drawn margarine story from a few weeks ago (Pat and Carol McGreal's "Margarine Of Error") was produced because we were asked for it. The margarine factory is *so* popular with our readers that our publishers specifically ask that we do margarine factory-related stories once in awhile.
All the more reason to make the factory a landmark, I think.
David
RE: DEMONTOOTH MOUNTAIN
I've checked and yes, it is also in DDOS 203 ("The Golden Christmas Tree"), making it a landmark that Barks used more than once.
RE: TRANSLATIONS
There was a period in the 1950s, at least, when translators did seem to translate from non-English languages. I have a set of discarded Egmont master pages from 1957. Danish type has been glued over the original English. Swedish has been glued on top of the Danish and German on top of the Swedish. Given the way that the translations from each country read, it appears that each country translated the story from the previous country's translation!
This would seem to be a very unwieldy process. But the margarine factory situation seems to be evidence that it's what was indeed done. (So Erika Fuchs did not, I can only suppose, always work from English.)
Also RE: MARGARINE FACTORY
The Vicar-drawn margarine story from a few weeks ago (Pat and Carol McGreal's "Margarine Of Error") was produced because we were asked for it. The margarine factory is *so* popular with our readers that our publishers specifically ask that we do margarine factory-related stories once in awhile.
All the more reason to make the factory a landmark, I think.
David
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
The Clan McDuck
Message 546 -
2002-06-30 at 21:53:19
Hi all!
As I told you yesterday, I added a new section about
The Clan McDuck to my "The D.U.C.K.man" pages to
celebrate Don's birthday.
http://duckman.pettho.com/mcduck/index.html
I hope that you have now visited it and done your
opinions so that you can give me your comments on
this:
a) Do you agree/disagree with my dating
of the castle? Why?
b) What are the correct colors of the McDuck tartan,
the McDuck banner and the McDuck coat of arms?
c) To there exist other coloring of the McDuck tartan,
the McDuck banner and the McDuck coat of arms?
In Denmark and Sweden they use "von" rather than "mc"
in the clan's name. Once a Danish translator came up
with the idea that the clan were once given a
continental title which are referred to in the Danish
(and Swedish?) translations. Do anyone here remember
the more exact details of this theory?
Sigvald :-)
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As I told you yesterday, I added a new section about
The Clan McDuck to my "The D.U.C.K.man" pages to
celebrate Don's birthday.
http://duckman.pettho.com/mcduck/index.html
I hope that you have now visited it and done your
opinions so that you can give me your comments on
this:
a) Do you agree/disagree with my dating
of the castle? Why?
b) What are the correct colors of the McDuck tartan,
the McDuck banner and the McDuck coat of arms?
c) To there exist other coloring of the McDuck tartan,
the McDuck banner and the McDuck coat of arms?
In Denmark and Sweden they use "von" rather than "mc"
in the clan's name. Once a Danish translator came up
with the idea that the clan were once given a
continental title which are referred to in the Danish
(and Swedish?) translations. Do anyone here remember
the more exact details of this theory?
Sigvald :-)
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Timo Ronkainen
The Clan McDuck
Message 547 -
2002-06-30 at 22:41:28
>b) What are the correct colors of the McDuck tartan,
>the McDuck banner and the McDuck coat of arms?
They (tartans) exists in Barks' stories, yes, but I doubt that Barks have
had much ifluence on what colors to use. I don't know if Barks gave any
guides to colorist but most of the times he gave any guides they were
ignored (!) mainly because printer who did the printing plates removed them
before comics were colored. Therefore they might even vary in different
reprints. Sad.
Timo
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>the McDuck banner and the McDuck coat of arms?
They (tartans) exists in Barks' stories, yes, but I doubt that Barks have
had much ifluence on what colors to use. I don't know if Barks gave any
guides to colorist but most of the times he gave any guides they were
ignored (!) mainly because printer who did the printing plates removed them
before comics were colored. Therefore they might even vary in different
reprints. Sad.
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
¨¨ Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://welcome.to/ankistit
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
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