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Ola Martinsson
I'm trying to look at the different countries e.g. us/ under
/inducks/files but all i get is the Parent Directory.
legends/ and stories/ works though.

It suddenly stopped working yesterday at about nine to ten in the
evening.

Does it work for anybody else ?

Ola in a sunny and warm Stockholm +25
Harald Havas
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Halsten Aastebol" <Halsten.Aastebol at elkraft.ntnu.no>
An: "Harald Havas" <Harald.Havas at blackbox.net>; <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2002 09:35
Betreff: Re: Teleportation
> >2. the scientists are Austrian not Australian! ;-) (from Innsbruck to be
> >precise)
>
> The article specifically referred to Australia. The names for Australia
and
> Austria are very different in Norwegian, so I doubt there is any mix-up.
> And like Olaf has already pointed out, the Australian national university
> in Canberra was mentioned.

Okay, so both did something along those lines ;-)

BTW, what's Austrias name in Norwegian?

Dutch = Oostenrijke
Finnish = It?valta (whatever that means!)
... AFAIK

but Norwegian?

;-)

Harald
Willot François
-----Original Message-----
From: Ola Martinsson

I'm trying to look at the different countries e.g. us/ under
/inducks/files but all i get is the Parent Directory.
legends/ and stories/ works though.

It suddenly stopped working yesterday at about nine to ten in the
evening.

Does it work for anybody else ?
--------------------------

The files were being regenerated. It takes 30 minutes.
The new files are there now.

Obviously it would be better to delete the old files just before
moving the new ones to the right place.

I'll try to change that.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
> From a Swedish source I have now been told that
> "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" will be published
> in the scandinavien weeklies #39-41 2002.

Until then it can be read here:
http://duckman.pettho.com/gallery/ccut.html

Sigvald :-)

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Dan Shane
GARY WROTE:

> I appreciate you making this point on my behalf, and setting the record
> straight. I wasn't aware of this slip before, and it is irksome to be
> uncredited in such instances. Still, such slipups are usually
> unintended, a
> moment of inattention in an editorial/production staffer's extremely busy
> day. (I can relate to this sort of thing, believe me.)

AND I REPLY:

It just seems to go with the territory, doesn't it Gary? Partial credit
seems even harder to come by when working in the shadow of someone so
universally recognized as Don. I don't think any European comic or
newspaper reporting on the story ever acknowledged that Don did not draw or
do a solo design on the Money Bin blueprints, even though Don told everyone
repeatedly that the had help and gave them my name.

Oh well, the pay is the same.

Dan
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
DAN SHANE wrote:
> It just seems to go with the territory, doesn't
> it Gary? Partial credit seems even harder to
> come by when working in the shadow of someone so
> universally recognized as Don. I don't think
> any European comic or newspaper reporting on the
> story ever acknowledged that Don did not draw or
> do a solo design on the Money Bin blueprints,
> even though Don told everyone repeatedly that
> the had help and gave them my name.

This reminds me that someone once told me that you
were going to put on-line some scans of the original
version of the Money Bin blueprints, in black on white
background I think.

What are happening to those scans?

Sigvald :-)

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Stefan Persson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Shane" <danshane at bellsouth.net>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: Left out

> It just seems to go with the territory, doesn't it Gary? Partial credit
> seems even harder to come by when working in the shadow of someone so
> universally recognized as Don. I don't think any European comic or
> newspaper reporting on the story ever acknowledged that Don did not draw
or
> do a solo design on the Money Bin blueprints, even though Don told
everyone
> repeatedly that the had help and gave them my name.

You are mentioned on the Swedish blueprints (at the bottom of the second
page):

"RITARE: D. SHANE" (artist: D. Shane)

However, the printed credit for the acual story only mentions Don Rosa.

Stefan
H.W.Fluks
Harald:

> Dutch = Oostenrijke

Almost correct. It's Oostenrijk, actually.

(Funny thing is that ?sterreich and the like mean "Eastern country", while
"Austria" means "Southern country"...)

--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Arne:

> So if Barks would have known of this (has he?) he possibly would have
> been able to get the patent for this method to raise sunken ships.

I don't think it works that way. Barks made this "invention" public (without
claiming a patent at the time).
You can't request a patent on public knowledge (even if you made it public
yourself).

--Harry.
Dan Shane
STEFAN WROTE:

> You are mentioned on the Swedish blueprints (at the bottom of the second
> page):
>
> "RITARE: D. SHANE" (artist: D. Shane)
>
> However, the printed credit for the actual story only mentions Don Rosa.

AND I REPLY:

Yes, that's because I put my first initial and last name in the drafter's
block at Don's request. He said it was probably the only way may name would
ever be attached to the project, and he was right.

You will notice my name does not appear as the architect or designer. For
those who are not familiar with how technical drawings work, the drafter is
considered to be strictly a person who takes the designer's ideas and puts
measurements and specifications in place for the benefit of the builder or
manufacturer. He or she is hardly ever considered part of the design
process, just a helper. And I guess that pretty much describes what I did
for Don.

The story and prints to support it were definitely his idea. He provided
sketches of the general layout of each floor and about half of the gags or
better. It was my job to turn that idea into a drawing that would at least
look technically feasible, placing walls, doors, windows, traps, and other
objects in positions and relative scale that they could actually work. If I
could think of a gag on my own or augment one of Don's in a way that made it
funnier, he encouraged me to do so. The one I liked the best was making the
employee lounge exactly the same size as the broom closet that was next to
it.

The joy was in the creation, not in any brief recognition I would get for my
work. I knew the job was dangerous when I took it. I think most folks on
this list know of my part in the project already -- Don certainly tried to
make as many people as possible aware of my miniscule efforts. I only
mentioned it in response to Gary's acknowledgement of the minor irritation
caused by missing credits.

This wasn't the first time I made a contribution to one of Don's
masterpieces anyway -- just the first time I actually received any sort of
recompense. These were always his stories, and any request he made for my
assistance in any way was viewed as a chance to work with a good friend and
neighbor. If Don ever wants anyone to know where my little contributions
could be seen, that would always be up to him to point out.

D. SHANE (as the title block says)
Alecto
The issue that has the only Australian printing of this story (one of my
favourites) has a cover that I can't find the code for, perhaps it's made up of
a blow up of a story panel (like some other .au covers). but what story/artist?

http://www.goulburn.net.au/~alecto/g241.html

Anyone care to suggest where the cuts were made in the story?

Tony
H.W.Fluks
Rob:

> Regarding thr 9-page teleportation story from Carl Barks in 1961:
>
> Carl Barks [..] said that he produced a few 9-page
> stories on his
> own to avoid having them cut poorly, ruining the quality of
> the stories. [..]
> I remember reading something similar in Mike
> Barrier's book and "The
> Carl Barks Library" regarding this matter.

This was about leaving out single panels in 1-page gags, to make room for
the Pledge to Parents. And maybe about making long Scrooge stories a few
pages shorter.

As far as I know, Barks never drew a 9-page story for WDC.

--Harry.
Frank Bubacz
>From: Alecto

>The issue that has the only Australian printing of this story (one of my
>favourites) has a cover that I can't find the code for, perhaps it's made
>up of
>a blow up of a story panel

Guess you're wrong. It looks VERY much like an original cover drawing.
Thanks for putting the story online, it was the first time I could read the
original American version. Don't think they "translate" it for the Aussies?
;-)

Frank

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Halsten Aastebol
At 12:53 19.06.02 +0200, Harald Havas wrote:

>BTW, what's Austrias name in Norwegian?
>
>Dutch = Oostenrijke
>Finnish = It?valta (whatever that means!)
>... AFAIK
>
>but Norwegian?

In Norwegian it is ?sterrike which is an exact translation of ?sterreich.
Most of you will probably not be able to read the first letter in the
Norwegian name. It is the Norwegian letter that looks like an O with a
slash (/) through it.

Regards
Halsten
Frank Bubacz
>From: Alecto
>
>Anyone care to suggest where the cuts were made in the story?

BarksBase suggests that the lower half of page 8 and the upper half of page
9 were possibly spliced together from two original pages.
But that's just speculation, as Barks never gave a hint himself, AFAIK.

Frank

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