From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald4 at yahoo.no>
> In Don Rosa's "Attack of the Hideous Space Varmints"
> Scrooge & Co are using a space-rocket which seems to
> have appeared earlier in a Barks-story. Can anyone
> here tell me what Barks-story that is?
Perhaps you mean the rocket from Barks' "Island in the Sky"? That one appeared almost exactly in
Rosa's "Rocket Reverie". (only lacking the part with the door trough which one of the nephews enters
the craft at the top of page 4) Its name, translated from the Dutch edition, was "Airfish
Spacecoach". (and second-hand, of course!)
Actually, it's quite funny that the "spaceships of the future" that were designed in the past, are
now (in that future) regarded as ancient designs!
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Willem Hajenius
Barks/Rosa Space-rocket
Message 16 -
2002-06-02 at 21:03:08
Frank Bubacz
Don Rosa/Franquin
Message 17 -
2002-06-02 at 21:28:18
Has Don Rosa been influenced by Belgian comic artist Franquin?
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R: Doctor Einmug
Message 18 -
2002-06-02 at 23:19:42
Hello, I answer for what I can...
... Since that article, on "Mickey Parade", was written by me...
Well, Dr. Einmug, in his first story by Gottfredson, has a "black" fur, like
Horace, Mr. Gloomy and so on. I remember thata Scarpa told me about this
very issue, some years ago. HE decided to turn Einmug's skin/fur into pink,
because... In the Daily Strips of the 30es, there were NO colors. In
colorful world, things must be changed. The Beagle Boys are not black, for
example, since they were created for a comic book.
So, he hadn't a purple face, in the beginning. And he didn't have in the
Gladstone/Disney comic book version.
(about colors, Atomino Bipbip's color is usually blue, but I saw a lot of
publications in which he was pink, looking more like Eega Beeva.)
They are recourring mistakes. Scarpa statued "light blue" for his (and his
brother's) skins. But often the colorists don't follow the creators'
indications. In a non-Scarpa's story (drawn by Luciano Gatto), Atomino was
even colored in green, and in a story of mine, in two different "puntate"
(parts) was light blue in one and pink in the other.
I think there is an explanation, that I want tell you the next time.
L.
... Since that article, on "Mickey Parade", was written by me...
Well, Dr. Einmug, in his first story by Gottfredson, has a "black" fur, like
Horace, Mr. Gloomy and so on. I remember thata Scarpa told me about this
very issue, some years ago. HE decided to turn Einmug's skin/fur into pink,
because... In the Daily Strips of the 30es, there were NO colors. In
colorful world, things must be changed. The Beagle Boys are not black, for
example, since they were created for a comic book.
So, he hadn't a purple face, in the beginning. And he didn't have in the
Gladstone/Disney comic book version.
(about colors, Atomino Bipbip's color is usually blue, but I saw a lot of
publications in which he was pink, looking more like Eega Beeva.)
They are recourring mistakes. Scarpa statued "light blue" for his (and his
brother's) skins. But often the colorists don't follow the creators'
indications. In a non-Scarpa's story (drawn by Luciano Gatto), Atomino was
even colored in green, and in a story of mine, in two different "puntate"
(parts) was light blue in one and pink in the other.
I think there is an explanation, that I want tell you the next time.
L.
Goofy313g
R: Doctor Einmug
Message 19 -
2002-06-03 at 00:29:39
HI!
Thank u very much for these informations
Did YOU wrote the article???
Oh! I was sure I had seen your name before being a member of the dcml :-)
Now, I found were I saw it! :-)
You told me Einmug had a black fur, but it isn't like mickey's at all!
It is not colored in black, but in a kind of grey. (white with black point)
In fact, this could be any color, as it is in black and white...
It is a little bit like for Mickey's female cousin Madeline Mouse in this
love story from the early 40es, by Gottfredson, or Montmorency rodent in the
same story, ...
Anyway, I don't think I'll show the picture were he is purple on my page...
That would be too complicated to explain this.
The only thing I wanted to know is if this is Scarpa who decided for the
color of einmug's skin, and I have my answer!...
Thank u!
Gilles
Thank u very much for these informations
Did YOU wrote the article???
Oh! I was sure I had seen your name before being a member of the dcml :-)
Now, I found were I saw it! :-)
You told me Einmug had a black fur, but it isn't like mickey's at all!
It is not colored in black, but in a kind of grey. (white with black point)
In fact, this could be any color, as it is in black and white...
It is a little bit like for Mickey's female cousin Madeline Mouse in this
love story from the early 40es, by Gottfredson, or Montmorency rodent in the
same story, ...
Anyway, I don't think I'll show the picture were he is purple on my page...
That would be too complicated to explain this.
The only thing I wanted to know is if this is Scarpa who decided for the
color of einmug's skin, and I have my answer!...
Thank u!
Gilles
Olaf Solstrand
Question to our Swedish friends
Message 20 -
2002-06-03 at 01:53:43
Can anyone tell me what Kalle Anka-partiet is? Is it a real politic party? Does
it have anything to do with Donald Duck - except for the name?
Olaf
it have anything to do with Donald Duck - except for the name?
Olaf
Kriton Kyrimis
KOMIX #168
Message 21 -
2002-06-03 at 09:10:18
The June Issue of Komix is out, with no sign of Groo in this or in the
announced contents of next month's issue. Thus, I am going to tentatively
restart my Komix column. I'll also be posting two month's worth of
translations each month, so that I can catch up. So, without further ado,
here's what's in this month's issue of Komix:
* Cover by Don Rosa. I have put a scan of the cover at
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix168.jpg
* Two pages of letters to Komix. In one letter, a reader asks about comics
ispired by movies, and, in their reply, the editors say that in a
future issue there will be a surprise that will answer the reader's
question. Next to the letter is the cover and one page from Cavazzano's
"Casablanca"!!! I can't wait to be "surprised"!
* Two pages with "the news of Komix".
* "Escape from he Forbidden valley", by Don Rosa. (D98346)
* A two-page article titled "Return to Forbidden Valley", subtitled "ducks,
gorillas, and dinosaurs in the blender", by Don Rosa.
* A one-page article titled "Carl Barks' sources", subtitled "Don
Rosa commens on Carl Barks "Forbdden Valley".
* "The Hada's House", writen and Drawn by Marco Rota. (D97380)
* "Thanks for the Memories", written by John Lustig, drawn by Vicar. (D92041)
* A one-page article titled "Back to the Roots", subtitled "new mystery
cycle for Mickey Mouse", immediately following an ad for said cycle
(of course). Why do I get the feeling that they are preaching to the
converted here? Even *I* am going to be buying this series!
* "A Day in a Duck's Life", written by Carl Barks, redrawn by Daan Jippes.
(H98085)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"The walls might hide spies, or, at any rate, historians."
-----
announced contents of next month's issue. Thus, I am going to tentatively
restart my Komix column. I'll also be posting two month's worth of
translations each month, so that I can catch up. So, without further ado,
here's what's in this month's issue of Komix:
* Cover by Don Rosa. I have put a scan of the cover at
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix168.jpg
* Two pages of letters to Komix. In one letter, a reader asks about comics
ispired by movies, and, in their reply, the editors say that in a
future issue there will be a surprise that will answer the reader's
question. Next to the letter is the cover and one page from Cavazzano's
"Casablanca"!!! I can't wait to be "surprised"!
* Two pages with "the news of Komix".
* "Escape from he Forbidden valley", by Don Rosa. (D98346)
* A two-page article titled "Return to Forbidden Valley", subtitled "ducks,
gorillas, and dinosaurs in the blender", by Don Rosa.
* A one-page article titled "Carl Barks' sources", subtitled "Don
Rosa commens on Carl Barks "Forbdden Valley".
* "The Hada's House", writen and Drawn by Marco Rota. (D97380)
* "Thanks for the Memories", written by John Lustig, drawn by Vicar. (D92041)
* A one-page article titled "Back to the Roots", subtitled "new mystery
cycle for Mickey Mouse", immediately following an ad for said cycle
(of course). Why do I get the feeling that they are preaching to the
converted here? Even *I* am going to be buying this series!
* "A Day in a Duck's Life", written by Carl Barks, redrawn by Daan Jippes.
(H98085)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"The walls might hide spies, or, at any rate, historians."
-----
Kriton Kyrimis
Articles from Komix #161 and #162
Message 22 -
2002-06-03 at 09:13:32
[Actually, only one article, from Komix #161, as there were no
Rosa-related articles in #162. Even this one is stretching things a bit,
with only one reference to Don in a caption, but I think the article
was interesting enough to merit a translation.]
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Donald Munchhousen... a forgotten script by Carl Barks
The First Steps of a Story Teller
Some thoughts on the life and times of Carl Barks, based on a script
for a cartoon that was never filmed!
In 1938, Carl Barks is working in the script department of the _Disney
Studio_. Working in the field of animation does not completely satisfy
him and he is already considering turning to the field of comics. A
suggestion for the script of a short cartoon that was never filmed allows
us to assume that since that time, in some deep corner of his mind,
the ideas for the classic adventures that he would write a few years
later had already begun to be born.
DONALD AS A STORY TELLER
Work in in Walt Disney's stdio was teamwork. When someone had an idea
for a cartoon, he would pin the summary on a notice board along with a
note asking for ideas and suggestions from his colleagues. In the book
_The Disney that Never Was_, a wonderful study of the unrealized ideas
of the _Studio_, Charles Solomon presents such a summary that Carl Barks
had submitted to his colleagues in 1938.
The title of the cartoon would have been _Donald Munchhousen_. The
script begins with the hero catching his nephews reading an adventure
story, which he considers childish and unacceptable. He quickly makes
up an incredible story reminiscent of the stories of the legendary Baron
Munchhousen and attempts to impress his nephews with his own outrageous
accomplishments... Thus, Donald is supposed that once, during a trip in
Africa, he had discovered a mysterious and dream-like valley inside the
crater of an extinct volcano. There he met prehistoric dinosaurs and King
Kong himself, to whom he gave a beating... Mark Davis made a series of
drawings for the fight between Donald and King Kong, and Raymond Jacobs
drew scenes with Donald fighting a tribe of natives. The story ends badly,
when one of the nephews makes the shadow of King Kong with his hands on
the room wall, making their uncle run away...
IDEAS FOR THE FUTURE
The idea was not bad, but it was rejected for a very simple reason: Donald
could not take the part of the narrator of a relatively complicated story,
because his voice is almost unintelligible. Thus, Carl Barks' suggestion
ended up in the huge archive with the unfinished plans of the _Studio_
and was soon forgotten by everyone... except the person who though of it.
In this brief summary, the Duck Man's readers will have recognized many
elements and circumstances that Barks would use later in his classic
stories. From the lost valley with the dinosaurs of the *Forbidden
Valley* story (_Komix_ #10), to the first panels of the yet unpublished
in _Komix_ ten-page *Super Snooper*, where Donald speaks scornfully about
what his nephews are reading, Barks will let nothing go to waste. Another
common element is that of the rivalry between uncle and nephews. As
in many ten-page stories, the starting point for the most outrageous
adventures is an almost everyday,common experience... In this case, the
ruthless rivalry between uncle and nephews serves this particular purpose.
THE ART OF THE NARRATOR
It is known that from that time, Barks had already been considering
working on comics. It is interesting, however, that, four years before
he drew his first story, the basic structure of Duck adventures had
been crystallized in his mind: unexpected adventures in exotic countries,
threats and mysteries from the past, references to classic movies... And
all this with protagonists having complete characters, with strong,
almost human personalities, capable of dealing with any challenge and
to move us. The only thing still missing is a story-like hero who will
give a different depth to Barks' stories... This hero will make his
appearance in 1947,. His name is Scrooge McDuck!
Looking at things from a distance, in the final analysis, it would
have indeed been a pity if the _Donald Munchhousen_ script had been
exhausted within the narrow frame of a short cartoon. Because Barks,
inspired by this script which identifies Donald with Baron Munchhousen,
will decide, four years later, to write and draw his own comics, thus
giving his hero the opportunity to have adventures of which even the
infamous story-telling Baron would be envious... Thanks to this cartoon,
it appears that Barks found the way to put his talent into use and become
the greatest story-teller of the 20th century.
[Caption, p.1]
Donald as an aspiring _National Geographic_ photographer, travels to
the heart of the Black Continent, coming face to face with King Kong
himself... One of the most characteristic draft drawings for the cartoon
_Donald Munchhousen_.
[Caption, p.2, top]
Nine years after the rejection of the script for _Donald Munchhousen_,
Carl Barks comes back to the idea of the discovery of a valley forgotten
by time, where dinosaurs still live. Forty four years after uncle Carl,
Don Rosa sends Donald back on new adventures in the legendary lost valley.
[Caption, p.2, bottom]
The rivalry between Donald and his nephews may lead to many different
situations. As in the script for _Donald Munchhousen_, the starting point
of the story in _Super Snooper_ is that Donald wants to prove to his
nephews that he has nothing to be jealous of the heroes of their favorite
stories. The subject of the comparison between Donald and fictional heroes
and situations reappears in many other classic stories by Carl Barks.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Just remember what curiosity did to the cat."
"Why do you think they have nine lives? And why do you think Time Lords have
twelve?"
-----
Rosa-related articles in #162. Even this one is stretching things a bit,
with only one reference to Don in a caption, but I think the article
was interesting enough to merit a translation.]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Donald Munchhousen... a forgotten script by Carl Barks
The First Steps of a Story Teller
Some thoughts on the life and times of Carl Barks, based on a script
for a cartoon that was never filmed!
In 1938, Carl Barks is working in the script department of the _Disney
Studio_. Working in the field of animation does not completely satisfy
him and he is already considering turning to the field of comics. A
suggestion for the script of a short cartoon that was never filmed allows
us to assume that since that time, in some deep corner of his mind,
the ideas for the classic adventures that he would write a few years
later had already begun to be born.
DONALD AS A STORY TELLER
Work in in Walt Disney's stdio was teamwork. When someone had an idea
for a cartoon, he would pin the summary on a notice board along with a
note asking for ideas and suggestions from his colleagues. In the book
_The Disney that Never Was_, a wonderful study of the unrealized ideas
of the _Studio_, Charles Solomon presents such a summary that Carl Barks
had submitted to his colleagues in 1938.
The title of the cartoon would have been _Donald Munchhousen_. The
script begins with the hero catching his nephews reading an adventure
story, which he considers childish and unacceptable. He quickly makes
up an incredible story reminiscent of the stories of the legendary Baron
Munchhousen and attempts to impress his nephews with his own outrageous
accomplishments... Thus, Donald is supposed that once, during a trip in
Africa, he had discovered a mysterious and dream-like valley inside the
crater of an extinct volcano. There he met prehistoric dinosaurs and King
Kong himself, to whom he gave a beating... Mark Davis made a series of
drawings for the fight between Donald and King Kong, and Raymond Jacobs
drew scenes with Donald fighting a tribe of natives. The story ends badly,
when one of the nephews makes the shadow of King Kong with his hands on
the room wall, making their uncle run away...
IDEAS FOR THE FUTURE
The idea was not bad, but it was rejected for a very simple reason: Donald
could not take the part of the narrator of a relatively complicated story,
because his voice is almost unintelligible. Thus, Carl Barks' suggestion
ended up in the huge archive with the unfinished plans of the _Studio_
and was soon forgotten by everyone... except the person who though of it.
In this brief summary, the Duck Man's readers will have recognized many
elements and circumstances that Barks would use later in his classic
stories. From the lost valley with the dinosaurs of the *Forbidden
Valley* story (_Komix_ #10), to the first panels of the yet unpublished
in _Komix_ ten-page *Super Snooper*, where Donald speaks scornfully about
what his nephews are reading, Barks will let nothing go to waste. Another
common element is that of the rivalry between uncle and nephews. As
in many ten-page stories, the starting point for the most outrageous
adventures is an almost everyday,common experience... In this case, the
ruthless rivalry between uncle and nephews serves this particular purpose.
THE ART OF THE NARRATOR
It is known that from that time, Barks had already been considering
working on comics. It is interesting, however, that, four years before
he drew his first story, the basic structure of Duck adventures had
been crystallized in his mind: unexpected adventures in exotic countries,
threats and mysteries from the past, references to classic movies... And
all this with protagonists having complete characters, with strong,
almost human personalities, capable of dealing with any challenge and
to move us. The only thing still missing is a story-like hero who will
give a different depth to Barks' stories... This hero will make his
appearance in 1947,. His name is Scrooge McDuck!
Looking at things from a distance, in the final analysis, it would
have indeed been a pity if the _Donald Munchhousen_ script had been
exhausted within the narrow frame of a short cartoon. Because Barks,
inspired by this script which identifies Donald with Baron Munchhousen,
will decide, four years later, to write and draw his own comics, thus
giving his hero the opportunity to have adventures of which even the
infamous story-telling Baron would be envious... Thanks to this cartoon,
it appears that Barks found the way to put his talent into use and become
the greatest story-teller of the 20th century.
[Caption, p.1]
Donald as an aspiring _National Geographic_ photographer, travels to
the heart of the Black Continent, coming face to face with King Kong
himself... One of the most characteristic draft drawings for the cartoon
_Donald Munchhousen_.
[Caption, p.2, top]
Nine years after the rejection of the script for _Donald Munchhousen_,
Carl Barks comes back to the idea of the discovery of a valley forgotten
by time, where dinosaurs still live. Forty four years after uncle Carl,
Don Rosa sends Donald back on new adventures in the legendary lost valley.
[Caption, p.2, bottom]
The rivalry between Donald and his nephews may lead to many different
situations. As in the script for _Donald Munchhousen_, the starting point
of the story in _Super Snooper_ is that Donald wants to prove to his
nephews that he has nothing to be jealous of the heroes of their favorite
stories. The subject of the comparison between Donald and fictional heroes
and situations reappears in many other classic stories by Carl Barks.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Just remember what curiosity did to the cat."
"Why do you think they have nine lives? And why do you think Time Lords have
twelve?"
-----
Kriton Kyrimis
Dutch [rather OT]
Message 23 -
2002-06-03 at 09:47:45
HARRY:
> Apparently, peoples call other peoples by a name they like.
(As my recent posting about the various names people have given the
Hellenes will also testify!)
> on road signs: 10 kilometers from
> Amsterdam, you find a sign telling the distance to "London"
*Road* signs? To *London*? From *Amsterdam*?!?!?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Can you get us down?"
"Down is not the problem!"
-----
> Apparently, peoples call other peoples by a name they like.
(As my recent posting about the various names people have given the
Hellenes will also testify!)
> on road signs: 10 kilometers from
> Amsterdam, you find a sign telling the distance to "London"
*Road* signs? To *London*? From *Amsterdam*?!?!?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Can you get us down?"
"Down is not the problem!"
-----
DGE
Doctor Einmug
Message 24 -
2002-06-03 at 10:30:25
Hey everyone...
>But I saw in a Mickey Parade, which published a story of Atomino Bip-Bip,
on an article before this story, a picture of Einmug >from his first story
by Gottfredson where he has a purple face.
Probably a coloring mistake.
Dr. Einmug is a normal dogfaced person, so he has a normal pink
face. I haven't seen the purple used anywhere else.
I can't scan his second appearance (the Scarpa story) right now, but
I do have it and his color is once again pink.
>(about colors, Atomino Bipbip's color is usually blue, but I saw a lot of
publications in which he was pink, looking more like
>Eega Beeva.)
Atomo Bleep-Bleep - his English name - should really be blue, Smurf
style (so it's very clear he isn't related to Eega Beeva). Stories where
he's colored pink are not the preferred coloring.
David
>But I saw in a Mickey Parade, which published a story of Atomino Bip-Bip,
on an article before this story, a picture of Einmug >from his first story
by Gottfredson where he has a purple face.
Probably a coloring mistake.
Dr. Einmug is a normal dogfaced person, so he has a normal pink
face. I haven't seen the purple used anywhere else.
I can't scan his second appearance (the Scarpa story) right now, but
I do have it and his color is once again pink.
>(about colors, Atomino Bipbip's color is usually blue, but I saw a lot of
publications in which he was pink, looking more like
>Eega Beeva.)
Atomo Bleep-Bleep - his English name - should really be blue, Smurf
style (so it's very clear he isn't related to Eega Beeva). Stories where
he's colored pink are not the preferred coloring.
David
Theresa Wiegert
DCML digest, Vol 1 #948 - 14 msgs
Message 25 -
2002-06-03 at 12:26:35
Olaf:
> Can anyone tell me what Kalle Anka-partiet is? Is it a real politic
> party? Does it have anything to do with Donald Duck - except for the
> name?
Hi ho! (I only get the digests, so probably someone has already
answered... Or not. But neve rmind, I'm almost on summer holiday now, so I
can spend more time in front of computer now, doing lazy things - sooo
nice... :) (btw, S?ren, isn't "semester" the word for "termin", somewhat
misguidingly..? :)
The university I attend, has several different education directions (I dor
instance study physics engineering), and every section has its own
saint. Physics has the Phantom, and the electrical section has
Donald! (That almost got me to choose electronics engineering instead of
physics...). So they have pictures of Donald everywhere, a pub is called
Kajsabaren (daisy-pub) and so on. Stickers, clothes, lots of things, has
the logotype with an angry donald (see www.etek.chalmers.se)
As a result of this, (I think) the Kalle Anka partiet was risen. It's not
an actual political party, just for the school elections. There are plenty
of people voting on it every year in the real election, since it's a bit
more funny than voting blank, and the votes aren't counted anyway, more
than as unguilty votes. Kalle Anka partiet has been voted on in the "real"
election since the 70's, I think. So it's quite established.
Kvack!
--
/Theresa
> Can anyone tell me what Kalle Anka-partiet is? Is it a real politic
> party? Does it have anything to do with Donald Duck - except for the
> name?
Hi ho! (I only get the digests, so probably someone has already
answered... Or not. But neve rmind, I'm almost on summer holiday now, so I
can spend more time in front of computer now, doing lazy things - sooo
nice... :) (btw, S?ren, isn't "semester" the word for "termin", somewhat
misguidingly..? :)
The university I attend, has several different education directions (I dor
instance study physics engineering), and every section has its own
saint. Physics has the Phantom, and the electrical section has
Donald! (That almost got me to choose electronics engineering instead of
physics...). So they have pictures of Donald everywhere, a pub is called
Kajsabaren (daisy-pub) and so on. Stickers, clothes, lots of things, has
the logotype with an angry donald (see www.etek.chalmers.se)
As a result of this, (I think) the Kalle Anka partiet was risen. It's not
an actual political party, just for the school elections. There are plenty
of people voting on it every year in the real election, since it's a bit
more funny than voting blank, and the votes aren't counted anyway, more
than as unguilty votes. Kalle Anka partiet has been voted on in the "real"
election since the 70's, I think. So it's quite established.
Kvack!
--
/Theresa
Stefan Persson
DCML digest, Vol 1 #948 - 14 msgs
Message 26 -
2002-06-03 at 12:52:55
----- Original Message -----
From: "Theresa Wiegert" <f95thwi at dd.chalmers.se>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 3 juni 2002 11:26
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #948 - 14 msgs
> As a result of this, (I think) the Kalle Anka partiet was risen.
[...]
> Kalle Anka partiet has been voted on in the "real" election since the
70's, I think.
Make that "Kalle Anka-partiet."
> There are plenty
> of people voting on it every year in the real election,
Make that "every 4th year."
Stefan
From: "Theresa Wiegert" <f95thwi at dd.chalmers.se>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 3 juni 2002 11:26
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #948 - 14 msgs
> As a result of this, (I think) the Kalle Anka partiet was risen.
[...]
> Kalle Anka partiet has been voted on in the "real" election since the
70's, I think.
Make that "Kalle Anka-partiet."
> There are plenty
> of people voting on it every year in the real election,
Make that "every 4th year."
Stefan
Theresa Wiegert
Spelling and grammar
Message 27 -
2002-06-03 at 13:06:56
Stefan:
> > As a result of this, (I think) the Kalle Anka partiet was risen.
> [...]
> > Kalle Anka partiet has been voted on in the "real" election since the
> 70's, I think.
>
> Make that "Kalle Anka-partiet."
Oh, I'm sorry..... ;) I am writing in english (English, I *know*!) , so
then there is a swedish word involved in that way, it's easy to spell it
englishly (which is not a real word either, but I like making up new
words, as long as people understand me)
> > There are plenty
> > of people voting on it every year in the real election,
>
> Make that "every 4th year."
Well, I meant every time there is an election! Of course, this one might
be a bit hard to understand. Should've written "every time"...
But I wish the dcml doesn't have to be a spelling and grammar
competition. I guess I should've just ignored this, it's just that
spelling and grammar is a big concern for me too, so I just wanted to
justify myself... Anyway, this is all highy off-topic, and I'm sorry for
that.
(besides, if everyone has to spell perfectly, it's a bit hard for those
from countries where English is not the second language in the same way as
in Sweden, to dare to write messages to the list! So let this list be a
little more liberal. And if there are comments on my imperfections, please
write to me directly, instead of bringing it on the list!)
--
/Theresa, who now will try to become a bit more humble.... :)
> > As a result of this, (I think) the Kalle Anka partiet was risen.
> [...]
> > Kalle Anka partiet has been voted on in the "real" election since the
> 70's, I think.
>
> Make that "Kalle Anka-partiet."
Oh, I'm sorry..... ;) I am writing in english (English, I *know*!) , so
then there is a swedish word involved in that way, it's easy to spell it
englishly (which is not a real word either, but I like making up new
words, as long as people understand me)
> > There are plenty
> > of people voting on it every year in the real election,
>
> Make that "every 4th year."
Well, I meant every time there is an election! Of course, this one might
be a bit hard to understand. Should've written "every time"...
But I wish the dcml doesn't have to be a spelling and grammar
competition. I guess I should've just ignored this, it's just that
spelling and grammar is a big concern for me too, so I just wanted to
justify myself... Anyway, this is all highy off-topic, and I'm sorry for
that.
(besides, if everyone has to spell perfectly, it's a bit hard for those
from countries where English is not the second language in the same way as
in Sweden, to dare to write messages to the list! So let this list be a
little more liberal. And if there are comments on my imperfections, please
write to me directly, instead of bringing it on the list!)
--
/Theresa, who now will try to become a bit more humble.... :)
Stefan Persson
Spelling and grammar
Message 28 -
2002-06-03 at 13:19:33
----- Original Message -----
From: "Theresa Wiegert" <f95thwi at dd.chalmers.se>
To: "Stefan Persson" <reimersholme at hotmail.com>
Cc: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 3 juni 2002 12:06
Subject: spelling and grammar
> (besides, if everyone has to spell perfectly, it's a bit hard for those
> from countries where English is not the second language in the same way as
> in Sweden, to dare to write messages to the list! So let this list be a
> little more liberal. And if there are comments on my imperfections, please
> write to me directly, instead of bringing it on the list!)
Note that I only complained about the spelling of a Swedish "party," not
about any English word. The second complaint was about Swedish elections,
which doesn't have anything to do with spelling at all.
Stefan
From: "Theresa Wiegert" <f95thwi at dd.chalmers.se>
To: "Stefan Persson" <reimersholme at hotmail.com>
Cc: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 3 juni 2002 12:06
Subject: spelling and grammar
> (besides, if everyone has to spell perfectly, it's a bit hard for those
> from countries where English is not the second language in the same way as
> in Sweden, to dare to write messages to the list! So let this list be a
> little more liberal. And if there are comments on my imperfections, please
> write to me directly, instead of bringing it on the list!)
Note that I only complained about the spelling of a Swedish "party," not
about any English word. The second complaint was about Swedish elections,
which doesn't have anything to do with spelling at all.
Stefan
Kriton Kyrimis
Spelling and grammar
Message 29 -
2002-06-03 at 13:31:03
THERESA:
> (besides, if everyone has to spell perfectly, it's a bit hard for those
> from countries where English is not the second language in the same way as
> in Sweden, to dare to write messages to the list! So let this list be a
> little more liberal.
Then again, one might argue that people for whom English is not a second
language (or a *first* language!) correct spelling and grammar are
particularly important, as they are the only kind of English spelling
and grammar with which they are familiar. As Don once pointed out
(in jest?) DCML members tend to write better English than many of his
fellow countrymen!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"So I'm an unevolved twentieth-century Earthling. Sue me."
-----
> (besides, if everyone has to spell perfectly, it's a bit hard for those
> from countries where English is not the second language in the same way as
> in Sweden, to dare to write messages to the list! So let this list be a
> little more liberal.
Then again, one might argue that people for whom English is not a second
language (or a *first* language!) correct spelling and grammar are
particularly important, as they are the only kind of English spelling
and grammar with which they are familiar. As Don once pointed out
(in jest?) DCML members tend to write better English than many of his
fellow countrymen!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"So I'm an unevolved twentieth-century Earthling. Sue me."
-----
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
DCML digest, Vol 1 #948 - 14 msgs
Message 30 -
2002-06-03 at 14:00:01
> Hi ho! (I only get the digests, so probably someone
> has already answered... Or not. But neve rmind, I'm
> almost on summer holiday now, so I can spend more
> time in front of computer now, doing lazy things
> - sooo nice... :)
> (btw, S?ren, isn't "semester" the word
> for "termin", somewhat misguidingly?
Another word with different meaning in Swedish and
Norwegian. "Termin" in Norwegian is the estimated date
for a birth.
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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> has already answered... Or not. But neve rmind, I'm
> almost on summer holiday now, so I can spend more
> time in front of computer now, doing lazy things
> - sooo nice... :)
> (btw, S?ren, isn't "semester" the word
> for "termin", somewhat misguidingly?
Another word with different meaning in Swedish and
Norwegian. "Termin" in Norwegian is the estimated date
for a birth.
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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