--- cwiljes at bol.de skrev: >
> Cord> #1: Donald Duck by Carl Barks
> Sigvald> Indeed a worthy winner!
>
> And Franquin on #9 & #12 ;-)
> http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
> http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=12
And thus beaten also by:
Tintin (#3)
http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
and
Asterix (#4)
http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
both well known form Norwegian TEMPO magzine in the
60's and 70's.
Sigvald :-)
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
AW: Top 100 Comics
Message 76 -
2002-06-05 at 13:52:50
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
AW: Top 100 Comics
Message 77 -
2002-06-05 at 13:53:11
--- cwiljes at bol.de skrev: >
> Cord> #1: Donald Duck by Carl Barks
> Sigvald> Indeed a worthy winner!
>
> And Franquin on #9 & #12 ;-)
> http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
> http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=12
And thus beaten also by:
Tintin (#3)
http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
and
Asterix (#4)
http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
both well known form Norwegian TEMPO magzine in the
60's and 70's.
Sigvald :-)
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> Cord> #1: Donald Duck by Carl Barks
> Sigvald> Indeed a worthy winner!
>
> And Franquin on #9 & #12 ;-)
> http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
> http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=12
And thus beaten also by:
Tintin (#3)
http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
and
Asterix (#4)
http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=9
both well known form Norwegian TEMPO magzine in the
60's and 70's.
Sigvald :-)
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Message 78 -
2002-06-05 at 14:05:14
Michael Schartau wrote:
>> Micky Maus by Scarpa as nr 61.
> Scarpa is regarded as the best mausartist since Gottfredson but he is only
on place 68 !?
> I resent that.
There are also other examples where I would object the ranking - and I am
one of those seven editors who voted for it. I myself voted Barks #1,
Gottfredson #14 and Scarpa #28. The ranking is an average created by the
individual rankings of all participating editors. There can probably never
be a canonical ranking about which everyone agrees. So in case of
Gottfredson and Scarpa it might be, that Scarpa's stories (if not his name)
are rather well-known in Germany due to the printings in "Walt Disney's
Lustige Taschenb?cher" whereas Gottfredson has only been printed in
collector's editions which are not accessible to children. And to be quite
truthful a lot of the magic of Disney comics is best understood by young
readers and is difficult to grok in later years.
In addition to this critics' Top100 List there also is a readers list where
everyone can contribute titles and vote:
http://www.top100comics.de/comicvoting.php
Best wishes,
Cord
>> Micky Maus by Scarpa as nr 61.
> Scarpa is regarded as the best mausartist since Gottfredson but he is only
on place 68 !?
> I resent that.
There are also other examples where I would object the ranking - and I am
one of those seven editors who voted for it. I myself voted Barks #1,
Gottfredson #14 and Scarpa #28. The ranking is an average created by the
individual rankings of all participating editors. There can probably never
be a canonical ranking about which everyone agrees. So in case of
Gottfredson and Scarpa it might be, that Scarpa's stories (if not his name)
are rather well-known in Germany due to the printings in "Walt Disney's
Lustige Taschenb?cher" whereas Gottfredson has only been printed in
collector's editions which are not accessible to children. And to be quite
truthful a lot of the magic of Disney comics is best understood by young
readers and is difficult to grok in later years.
In addition to this critics' Top100 List there also is a readers list where
everyone can contribute titles and vote:
http://www.top100comics.de/comicvoting.php
Best wishes,
Cord
Timo Ronkainen
Top 100 Comics
Message 79 -
2002-06-05 at 14:09:56
> > The editorial team of the German Comics Journal "Comic Speedline"
>recently
> > voted the 100 Best Comics of all time.
There is also some quite serious errors there. They claim Tintin and Lucky
Luke being french, but they should (as editors of comics fanzine!) know that
those are belgian...!!
Timo
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>recently
> > voted the 100 Best Comics of all time.
There is also some quite serious errors there. They claim Tintin and Lucky
Luke being french, but they should (as editors of comics fanzine!) know that
those are belgian...!!
Timo
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Message 80 -
2002-06-05 at 14:09:58
Cord:
>> And Franquin on #9 & #12 ;-)
Sigvald:
> And thus beaten also by Tintin (#3) and Asterix (#4)
> Both well known form Norwegian TEMPO magzine in the
> 60's and 70's.
But no Isnogud anywhere, even though he was featured in TEMPO ;-)
I hope, Lucky Luke on #18 compensates for this:
http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=18
>> And Franquin on #9 & #12 ;-)
Sigvald:
> And thus beaten also by Tintin (#3) and Asterix (#4)
> Both well known form Norwegian TEMPO magzine in the
> 60's and 70's.
But no Isnogud anywhere, even though he was featured in TEMPO ;-)
I hope, Lucky Luke on #18 compensates for this:
http://www.top100comics.de/single_book.php?rank=18
Cwiljes
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Message 81 -
2002-06-05 at 14:23:05
timo ronkainen wrote:
>> The editorial team of the German Comics Journal "Comic Speedline"
>> recently voted the 100 Best Comics of all time.
> There is also some quite serious errors there. They claim Tintin and Lucky
> Luke being french, but they should (as editors of comics fanzine!) know
that
> those are belgian...!!
Thank for these correction. The editors are quite innocent of this, because
the information about the comics' country of origin was added later on by
the webmaster - which would be me ;-) I am not so fluent in European comics,
at least not to a degree where I can completely differentiate between
Belgian and French. Sorry for the mistakes, which are corrected by now.
Cord
>> The editorial team of the German Comics Journal "Comic Speedline"
>> recently voted the 100 Best Comics of all time.
> There is also some quite serious errors there. They claim Tintin and Lucky
> Luke being french, but they should (as editors of comics fanzine!) know
that
> those are belgian...!!
Thank for these correction. The editors are quite innocent of this, because
the information about the comics' country of origin was added later on by
the webmaster - which would be me ;-) I am not so fluent in European comics,
at least not to a degree where I can completely differentiate between
Belgian and French. Sorry for the mistakes, which are corrected by now.
Cord
Cwiljes
IntroDuckTion
Message 82 -
2002-06-05 at 14:25:20
Hi all:
After lurking for quite some time I switched from digest to single mail mode
yesterday, which had the immediate effect that I was drawn into the
discussion :o)
So that you know who I am, here is a short IntroDuckTion: I am 32 years old,
live on the Northwest of Germany and have been a Disney fan for as long as I
can remember. I learned reading from "Walt Disneys Lustige Taschenb?cher"
(the German editions of Topolino), spent my first money on the b/w Barks
Library, have been a Donaldist (http://www.donald.org) for 15 years, an
editor of the German Comics Journal "Comic Speedline" for 5 years - and I
tremendeously enjoy Disney comics until this day and probably until the end
of my life. In addition to reading Disney comics I also like many other
comics from creators around the world.
So that was in short the "comics" part of my life. The rest can be found
here: http://www.wiljes.de/cord (English text)
Best wishes,
Cord Wiljes
After lurking for quite some time I switched from digest to single mail mode
yesterday, which had the immediate effect that I was drawn into the
discussion :o)
So that you know who I am, here is a short IntroDuckTion: I am 32 years old,
live on the Northwest of Germany and have been a Disney fan for as long as I
can remember. I learned reading from "Walt Disneys Lustige Taschenb?cher"
(the German editions of Topolino), spent my first money on the b/w Barks
Library, have been a Donaldist (http://www.donald.org) for 15 years, an
editor of the German Comics Journal "Comic Speedline" for 5 years - and I
tremendeously enjoy Disney comics until this day and probably until the end
of my life. In addition to reading Disney comics I also like many other
comics from creators around the world.
So that was in short the "comics" part of my life. The rest can be found
here: http://www.wiljes.de/cord (English text)
Best wishes,
Cord Wiljes
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Top 100 Comics
Message 83 -
2002-06-05 at 14:33:27
timo ronkainen <timoro at hotmail.com> skrev: >
>> The editorial team of the German Comics Journal
>> "Comic Speedline" recently voted the 100 Best
>> Comics of all time.
>
> There is also some quite serious errors there. They
> claim Tintin and Lucky Luke being French, but they
> should (as editors of comics fanzine!) know that
> those are Belgian...!!
Correct!
And they should also have known that "The Panthom" by
Lee Falk obviosuly should have been on this list and
pretty obviously also among the Top-10. Why else would
Egmont publish the series "The Phantoms Cronicles"
including one big book about each of the 21 phantoms?
Sigvald :-)
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>> The editorial team of the German Comics Journal
>> "Comic Speedline" recently voted the 100 Best
>> Comics of all time.
>
> There is also some quite serious errors there. They
> claim Tintin and Lucky Luke being French, but they
> should (as editors of comics fanzine!) know that
> those are Belgian...!!
Correct!
And they should also have known that "The Panthom" by
Lee Falk obviosuly should have been on this list and
pretty obviously also among the Top-10. Why else would
Egmont publish the series "The Phantoms Cronicles"
including one big book about each of the 21 phantoms?
Sigvald :-)
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Plural(s) [OT; Top 100 Comics]
Message 84 -
2002-06-05 at 14:55:19
Timo wrote:
> There is also some quite serious errors there.
And Cord gave a very sensible and consistent answer, spelling-wise:
> Thank for these correction.
8-)
--Harry.
> There is also some quite serious errors there.
And Cord gave a very sensible and consistent answer, spelling-wise:
> Thank for these correction.
8-)
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Cord's introducktion
Message 85 -
2002-06-05 at 15:11:56
Cord wrote:
> So that was in short the "comics" part of my life. The rest
> can be found
> here: http://www.wiljes.de/cord (English text)
And there he wrote:
<<I belong to those 2% of the population who do not own a T.V. set and quite
honestly the only moments I feel sorry about this is when reruns of Star
Trek are on the air.>>
So you must feel sorry *all the time*, Cord! There's (nearly) always a rerun
of Star Trek on TV!
BTW, nice intro page.
--Harry.
> So that was in short the "comics" part of my life. The rest
> can be found
> here: http://www.wiljes.de/cord (English text)
And there he wrote:
<<I belong to those 2% of the population who do not own a T.V. set and quite
honestly the only moments I feel sorry about this is when reruns of Star
Trek are on the air.>>
So you must feel sorry *all the time*, Cord! There's (nearly) always a rerun
of Star Trek on TV!
BTW, nice intro page.
--Harry.
Per Starback
Inducks on DCML pages
Message 86 -
2002-06-05 at 15:59:14
The Inducks search at the DCML pages is back.
It was gone for almost two weeks. Now that it's back it's the current
Inducks. Previously it has been an old version for some time.
The Inducks has changed a lot since I did this last, so there are many
new fields etc. I haven't done anything about that. Also there are
no current output files on the DCML pages yet.
It was gone for almost two weeks. Now that it's back it's the current
Inducks. Previously it has been an old version for some time.
The Inducks has changed a lot since I did this last, so there are many
new fields etc. I haven't done anything about that. Also there are
no current output files on the DCML pages yet.
Cwiljes
AW: Plural(s) [OT; Top 100 Comics]
Message 87 -
2002-06-05 at 16:33:26
CORD> There is also some quite serious errors there.
HARRY>> And Cord gave a very sensible and consistent answer, spelling-wise:
CORD>> Thank for these correction.
Today, everybody is a critic. But at least I have an excellent excuse: I
learned my English reading comics ;-)
Cord
HARRY>> And Cord gave a very sensible and consistent answer, spelling-wise:
CORD>> Thank for these correction.
Today, everybody is a critic. But at least I have an excellent excuse: I
learned my English reading comics ;-)
Cord
Cwiljes
AW: Plural(s) [OT; Top 100 Comics]
Message 88 -
2002-06-05 at 16:58:02
CORD>>> There is also some quite serious errors there.
HARRY>>> And Cord gave a very sensible and consistent answer, spelling-wise:
CORD>>> Thank for these correction.
Oh, my - once again I made a snafu: The first sentence was quoted from Timo
Ronkainen, not from myself. And regarding the mixed-up plural: Yes, it IS
somewhat funny that I made such an obvious mistake in a sentence in which I
apologized for another embarassing mistake. Must have been by subconscious.
But what is it trying to say to me? Probably that I read and write too many
eMails each day?
HARRY>>> And Cord gave a very sensible and consistent answer, spelling-wise:
CORD>>> Thank for these correction.
Oh, my - once again I made a snafu: The first sentence was quoted from Timo
Ronkainen, not from myself. And regarding the mixed-up plural: Yes, it IS
somewhat funny that I made such an obvious mistake in a sentence in which I
apologized for another embarassing mistake. Must have been by subconscious.
But what is it trying to say to me? Probably that I read and write too many
eMails each day?
Frank Bubacz
Vulgar Scrooge
Message 89 -
2002-06-05 at 17:16:30
A propos "embarrassing" mistakes: Did anybody notice that in the German
version of the Barks Library, in WDC 138 (the story with the statues of
Cornelius Coot) in the very last panel, Scrooge is saying: "Kann ich's mir
leisten, das Geld zum Fenster rauszuschei?en?" Translation: "Can I afford it
to shit money away?" (Just the "m" in "schmei?en" = "throw" is missing...)
Whatever would Walt have said?
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version of the Barks Library, in WDC 138 (the story with the statues of
Cornelius Coot) in the very last panel, Scrooge is saying: "Kann ich's mir
leisten, das Geld zum Fenster rauszuschei?en?" Translation: "Can I afford it
to shit money away?" (Just the "m" in "schmei?en" = "throw" is missing...)
Whatever would Walt have said?
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Recent Egmont Mickey story
Message 90 -
2002-06-05 at 21:50:04
<<David: I'm the professional editor here, and Don... please give me a break,
pal! You've actually *misremembered* your own story (both your own original
script and my edited version!).
Mickey doesn't step forward onto the platter. Instead, having just
received a scare, Mickey falls backwards- and while Mickey's still in
mid-fall, a prankster standing behind Mickey sticks the platter under
Mickey's butt so he'll land seated on it.
Had Mickey been running forward and stepped on the platter, I'd
agree with you that the turkey was too obvious, and I'd have asked that it
be erased. But since Mickey doesn't even see the platter until he's already
landed on it, it didn't matter what the platter looked like.
I decided the platter was funnier with the turkey than without. So
the turkey stayed.
Gobble gobble,
<< David
I may be way off base here, but as a fan, it disturbs a bit to think that just b/c and editor thinks a turkey is funnier than a regular platter, the turkey appears.
Sounds ridiculous to me and I feel sorry for the authors who find such unnessary, but somewhat dramatic changes in their stories come print.
-john crocker.
pal! You've actually *misremembered* your own story (both your own original
script and my edited version!).
Mickey doesn't step forward onto the platter. Instead, having just
received a scare, Mickey falls backwards- and while Mickey's still in
mid-fall, a prankster standing behind Mickey sticks the platter under
Mickey's butt so he'll land seated on it.
Had Mickey been running forward and stepped on the platter, I'd
agree with you that the turkey was too obvious, and I'd have asked that it
be erased. But since Mickey doesn't even see the platter until he's already
landed on it, it didn't matter what the platter looked like.
I decided the platter was funnier with the turkey than without. So
the turkey stayed.
Gobble gobble,
<< David
I may be way off base here, but as a fan, it disturbs a bit to think that just b/c and editor thinks a turkey is funnier than a regular platter, the turkey appears.
Sounds ridiculous to me and I feel sorry for the authors who find such unnessary, but somewhat dramatic changes in their stories come print.
-john crocker.