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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 6/28/2002 1:13:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
timoro at hotmail.com writes:

> >I don't know this term. Maybe you're talking about "mickeymousing"?
>
> No, it was definitely used meaning perfect lip synch on animated movies.
>

used by who? and where?

steven rowe
Michael Rhode
>From: "R. Kooijman" <r.kooijman4 at chello.nl>
>
Mike:

The foreign editions have varying content.

Roy:

>
>I checked the English language NG june edition here in the Netherlands
>and I can't find it too. It's not before the Canon ad and there after is
>the D-day part omnipresent! It wasn't in may either... (I already kept
>an eye on the NG.) Seems there is a difference about the NG's which go
>to other countries? Could Miss Rhode verify that at her office?

I've forwarded your message to her, but I'm not sure how closely they track
individual country's editions. If she can find out, I'll let you all know.
BUT! I would write to them and ask to have it run in your local edition.

Mike

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Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
Hi

I'm doing a Don Rosa Index website for www.duckhunt.de but I need scans
of some of the stories published in the USA that I haven't been able to
scan/find myself. Therefore I'd be very happy if someone who has the
American comic books would make scans of the entire first page of these
stories in a fairly good quality (above 300 pixels in width) and send
them to me:

D 93574 "The Duck Who Never Was" (Donald Duck #286)
D 94144 "The Lost Charts of Columbus" (Donald Duck Adventures #43)
D 95153 "The Treasure of the Ten Avatars" (Uncle $crooge Adventures #51)
D 96001 "A Matter of Some Gravity" (Comics and Stories #610)
D 97437 "The Sign of the Triple Distelfink" (Uncle $crooge #310)
D 94121 "An Eye for Detail" (Comics and Stories #622)
D 96325 "A Little Something Special" (The Adventurous U$ McDuck #2)
D 97346 "The Black Knight" (Uncle $crooge #314)

Only a few, or even a single, of these stories would be very much
appreciated too. Please, contact me in private for this, on
thomas at duckburg.dk

Thanks very much in advance,
Thomas

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Vidar Svendsen
Sigvald wrote:
>OK, but how is this according to Disney policy? I've
>got the impression that it's somehow tabu to mention
>the christian God, Jesus Christ, etc. in Disney
>comics.

If you haven't done so, take a look at my page about Duckburg Religion:
http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/comics/disney/religion/intro.htm
(or for the Norwegian version:
http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/comics/disney/religion/innled.htm )
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Vidar Svendsen
Sigvald wrote:
>OK, but how is this according to Disney policy? I've
>got the impression that it's somehow tabu to mention
>the christian God, Jesus Christ, etc. in Disney
>comics.

If you haven't done so, take a look at my page about Duckburg Religion:
http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/comics/disney/religion/intro.htm
(or for the Norwegian version:
http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/comics/disney/religion/innled.htm )
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"Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
with the possible exception of bad news,
which obeys its own special laws."
Timo Ronkainen
> > >I don't know this term. Maybe you're talking about "mickeymousing"?
> >
> > No, it was definitely used meaning perfect lip synch on animated movies.
> >
>
>used by who? and where?

I checked some things, and I got it now. I read it from Finnish book about
animation by Juho Gartz "Animaatioelokuvat"(1978 published by Finnish Film
Foundation). Looks like mr Gartz have made an error. Gartz writes on his
paragraph about Disney mentioning "mickeymousing" (I didn't remember this
english term also was given here) and he explains it to be perfect
synchroning. Hit by hit all sounds perfectly synchronized with the
movements. He even translated it as "mikkihiirisynkka" "mickey mouse synch".
It looks that more precisely mickeymousing means something like making MUSIC
fit a scene in a pointedly rhythmic manner, music blatantly matches the
action. It's not quite the same as speaking and ALL other sounds in synch
with animation.

slight mistranslation,
and my miscomprehension
plus bad recollection... :-/

Timo

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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Hi all!

To celebrate Don's 51st birtday I have added a new
section to my The D.U.C.K:man pages:
http://duckman.pettho.com/mcduck/index.html

Feel free to comment it.

Sigvald :-)

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Cebarat
Everyone:

1. Sigvald: Teddy Roosevelt had TWO wives, Anne (who died young) and Edith
(who was his wife when he occupied the White House).

2. The expression "mickey mouse -----" originated, I believe, in reaction to
the "tinny," "ricky-ticky" musical accompaniments of the earliest sound
cartoons. Only later did it come into use as a general adjective for
something having little depth.

Chris Barat
Francois Willot
Thanks for your reply. If a Norwegian on this list can help me with the 52
to 56
Taliaferro books, I would be very happy to get them. I can pay and add 1 or
2 Picsous. Email me if you are interested.

Thanks (and sorry for the personal mail)

Fran?ois

----- Original Message -----
From: "Halsten Aastebol" <Halsten.Aastebol at elkraft.ntnu.no>
To: "Germund Silvegren" <germund.silvegren at ekol.lu.se>;
<dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: editions of Taliaferro strips

> At 13:17 24.06.02 +0100, Germund Silvegren wrote:
> >Unfortunately I don't have it myself but I'm pretty sure the 1952 volume
of
> >Taliaferro's dailies was published in Norway a few years ago.
> >/Germund
>
> This series has reached at least 1955, maybe 1956.
>
> Regards
> Halsten
Rob Klein
For Carmen:
The great view of the harbour/port and railroad yard of Duckburg was in the
opening splashpanel of Donald Duck in "The Magic Hourglass"; Barks epic story
from 1950.

I agree with you that the Vampire State Building and Limpspire State Building
should be important landmarks in Duckburg regardless of their inclusion for gag
purposes (only), each in only one story. I don't suggest that Don include both
as individual members of the select 12. But, perhaps he can draw them both in
a Duckburg Financial/Commercial Centre scene, along with The McDuck Building
and Stock Market.

Perhaps a second composite scene could show the Civic Centre, including the
following: City Hall, Calisota State Capitol Building, Duck County Couthouse,
Opera House.

In short, I feel that there are TOO MANY very important landmarks in Duckburg
to choose only 12.

Rob Klein

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Linwood
The expression "Mickey Mouse" with the meaning "unimportant, trivial,
simple" is not a reflection on the character of the character (play on
words intentional). It originated with reference to the Mickey Mouse
watch about 50 to 60 years ago, the one where Mickey's arms and gloved
hands are the watch's hands that move around the dial to tell the time.
In the United States, at least, the watch was a relatively inexpensive
novelty, but popular. The expression "Mickey-Mouse watch" was at first
a good-natured reference to anything relatively cheap, and then became a
clich? for a low-quality imitation, good or bad.

It's obvious to those familiar with the expression, therefore, that the
title "No Mickey-Mouse Artist" is a multi-level pun. Barks is
"quality," he is Disney-related, and he is the "Duck man," not a mouse
artist.

Ironically, a Mickey Mouse watch today, with the same moving arms, can
actually be quite expensive.

Linwood Kemp
Erik Bergwall
Hello duckburgians,

Today, June 29th, birthday of Don Rosa, we have published our scandinavian
donaldist community on the web. It's a community where you, as a member
(don't cost you a thing), can discuss and talk with other donaldists as
well, by forum, internal mail, etc. Each member has their own presentation
page about him/herself. You can view the site in four languages; english,
danish, swedish and norwegian.

The community is still under developement, so you may have some troubles
with the language or empty pages, but we promise these problems will be
solved asap.

Welcome to hang around, and tell us your opinion.

www.donaldisten.dk

The donaldisten crew, by Erik Bergwall
Olivier
Hi everyone!

Thomas:

>>Therefore I'd be very happy if someone who has the American comic books
>>would make scans of the entire first page of these stories in a fairly good quality
>>(above 300 pixels in width) and send them to me

I've scanned

>> D 93574 "The Duck Who Never Was" (Donald Duck #286)
>> D 94144 "The Lost Charts of Columbus" (Donald Duck Adventures #43)
>> D 95153 "The Treasure of the Ten Avatars" (Uncle $crooge Adventures #51)
>> D 96325 "A Little Something Special" (The Adventurous U$ McDuck #2)

and they're available at http://bobcat74.free.fr/dsc/dsc01.htm

I e-mailed Thomas but thought it best to post it here as well-- no need scanning 4-5 times the same
thing.

Best wishes,

Olivier
Gerd Syllwasschy
Steven Rowe wrote on 2002-06-27:

> Here in the USA, if you go to a store, and buy "pickles" you will get
pickled
> cucumbers.

Hopefully, yes. :-)

I looked it up in the original text of the "Forbidden Valley" story now.
They are talking about cucumbers all right, but the bug is an "augur-nosed
pickle hater", a menace to the "pickle crop". This puzzles me a bit. I mean,
you don't harvest pickles, do you? You first harvest cucumbers and then
pickle them, I would imagine. Even in the rural parts.

Gerd
Gerd Syllwasschy
Frank Bubacz wrote on 2002-06-28:

> >From: Halsten Aastebol
>
> >Barks' skunk oil factory was translated into margarine factory in
> >Scandinavia. Later, it has become an established fact (more or less) in
> >Scandinavia that Donald works at the margarine factory.
>
> The same is true for Germany, if we're talking about WDC 165. As far as I
> can remember the term has also been used in other stories. Maybe newer
> translators changed it to skunk oil factory again, but I can't really
> imagine. "Stinktier?l-Fabrik"? No way!

This is quite a mystery to me. The German translator got her texts from
Egmont (Gutenberghus) in Copenhagen, but she did not translate from Danish
(or any other Scandinavian language), she translated from English, i.e.,
from Barks' original text. Likewise, the Scandinavian translators did not
use the German version, AFAIK. And I don't believe in accidence so much that
I think it likely they all came up independently with the same exotic
substance which is not even remotely related to skunk oil. (Actually, it's
more related to soap, as I've been told ...)

So Egmont seems to have edited Barks' text in this case. But why would they?

(And yes, Frank, the margarine theme is still used in German translations.
It was at the heart of a Vicar story in one of the last issues of the German
weekly.)

Gerd
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