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Anders Christian Sivebaek
Hi all
The other day a dear friend of mine was reading aloud to me, rehearsing
for a retorics-test - she read Hamlet, and the line: "Frailty, thy name
is woman", rang a large bell in my head. I remember a story where
Scrooge says (after translation back into english) Lazyness, thy name
is Donald, or the like. I want to find that story, which is a Rosa-one,
I'm sure, for both her and a fellow friend who's also crazy about
Shakespeare (and her little sister is so crazy about Donald that she
makes quizzes for the family where they have to know the Barks- from
the Rosa-stories :-)) )

Please do help - where does it say the like - should be possible if the
translator in your country is honest - and tell me here on the list (or
to anders_sivebaek at nns.dk as this mira-adress is only readbale from
where I will not be longer than till 6.30 pm today.)

Other Shakespeare quote or references would be interesting too. I know
that the two theatre stories by Barks, must be referring to Romeo and
Juliet, allthough I've never read that play, only as an italian
parodia-pocketbook.

A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Eero-Pekka Halinen
I don't know if this has been already discussed in here, but are there any
other stories only drawn by Don Rosa than just the story written by Jan
Kruse (Finnish title "Laiskanläksy", AA 25/1999)? And why did Don draw a
story written by someone else? An empty head or an empty pocket ;-)? Just
for a change presumably.

Eero-Pekka

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Frank Bubacz
>From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek"

>Hi all
>The other day a dear friend of mine was reading aloud to me, rehearsing
>for a retorics-test - she read Hamlet, and the line: "Frailty, thy name
>is woman", rang a large bell in my head. I remember a story where
>Scrooge says (after translation back into english) Lazyness, thy name
>is Donald, or the like.

He says: "Cruelty, thy name is Donald" in the last panel of the tenth page
of Rosa's "The Black Knight". I read this very recently, so I could
remember.
If you are capable of reading German, you should check out Erika Fuchs'
translations of DD stories: Hardly one without a Goethe or Schiller quote in
it... ;-)

Frank

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Vic Pratt
Hello again

As I said before, I think the internet is a great
resource for comic fans around the world and I love
reading old strips that other collectors are kind
enough to post out there in the radio-waves.

However: call me an old fuddy-duddy if you will, but
the idea of carting around some kind of miniature
television device in order to read comics fills me
with dread and terror. Mobile phones are irritating
enough without people carting flickering bleeping tv
sets all over the place.

Best wishes

Grandpa Vic

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Kristian Pedersen
Anders wrote:
>>>>>>Other Shakespeare quote or references would be
interesting too. I know
that the two theatre stories by Barks, must be
referring to Romeo and
Juliet, allthough I've never read that play, only as
an italian
parodia-pocketbook.

I'm sure there are loads, but I can only think of a
couple of other Shakespeare quotes from duck stories,
both from Barks stories. In the opening of "Queen of
the Wild Dog Pack" Scrooge alludes directly to the
fact that something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
I admit I don't know if this is only in the Danish
version, but as the line looks perfectly plausible in
the story context, I choose to believe it was in the
original as well.

The classic is surely the Donald-as-rainmaker story
which references The Merchant of Venice:

Iago: 'O, beware, my lord, of jealousy; It is the
green-eyed monster which doth mock The meat it feeds
on; that cuckold lives in bliss Who, certain of his
fate, loves not his wronger; But, O, what damned
minutes tells he o'er Who dotes, yet doubts, suspects,
ye

For more detail, see:
http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/meanings/166600.html

(Incidentally I've different Danish translations of
this story; one in which the monster is correctly
denoted as "green-eyed", and one in which it is
described as "green". I don't know which one came
first - but unless memory plays tricks on me, I think
the "green" monster was actually bright RED in the
drawing! Or am I getting senile, fellow Danes?)

Cheers,
Kristian

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Marco Barlotti
At 15.09.11 16/06/2002 +1000, Alecto wrote:

>Thanks for the help Armando, I've put a page up at -
>http://www.goulburn.net.au/~alecto/ustories.html which shows the first
>panel or
>so of each story for a positive ID if you could have a glance at it for me
>please, here's the list again -

I have been able to counter-check all of Armando's identifications, and I
managed to recognize most of the remaining Italian stories. For some
stories, more scans and the plot would help very much!

Here is the list:

1.The Vanishing Ship Mystery = I AT 58-A (Paperino e la nave scomparsa)
(confirmed)

2.South Sea Shenanagins = I AT 71-B (Bacicin riprende il mare)

3.Brain Food Fool = (not Italian, art by Dick Moores)

4.On With The Show = (not Italian, art by Jack Bradbury)

5.Thumbprint Key = I AT 78-C (Zio Paperone e l'impronta chiave) (confirmed)

6.Super Sales-Woman = (not Italian, art by Tony Strobl)

7.Operation Refund = (Italian, art by Perego, more scans and the plot would
help!)

8.The Big Oil Foil = I AT 68-A (Pico De Paperis e il Ferragosto in collina)

9.The Pride Of Duckburg = I AT 110-B (Zio Paperone e la trasvolata del
triplano) (confirmed)

10.Pearl Island = I AT 129-B (Paperino e l'isola delle perle) (confirmed)

11.Money Bin Mayhem! = I AT 125-A (Zio Paperone e l'angolare di sicurezza)

12.The Fifty Money Bins Caper US 24 = I AT 118-A (Zio Paperone e i 50
depositi) (confirmed)

13.Beagle Boy Bluff = I AT 60-A (Paperino e gli scavi... archeologici)

14."Gone With The Goon" = (Italian, art by Chierchini, the plot would help!)

15.The Trojan Horse = I AT 68-B (Paperino e il cavallo di Troia) (confirmed)

16.The Three Mostest = I AT 120-B (Paperino e i tre pi?) (confirmed)

17.Madam Mim And The Hollow Mountain = S 66127 (Zio Paperone e la montagna
cava) (confirmed)

18.The Case Of The Soccer Tickets = S 66108

19.DD Captures The Range Rustlers = (not Italian, art by Paul Murry)

20.Desert Luck = (not Italian, art by Dick Moores)

21.Great T.V. Mystery = (Italian, art by Onofrio Bramante, the plot would
help!)

22.The Double Amnesia Case = I AT 73-C (Topolino e la doppia amnesia)
(confirmed)

23.Troubled Technicians = (not Italian, ar by Paul Murry)

24.Mountainous Mayhem = I AT 85-A (Topolino e il Capodanno in bellezza)

25.Perilous Assignment = (probably NOT Italian, more scans and the plot
would help!)

26.The Mystery Of The Misguided Missiles = (not Italian)

27.The Scarlet Ray = I AT 83-C (Topolino e il raggio scarlatto)
(confirmed as #27)

28.Mix-Up Mystery = (not Italian)

29.The Mask Of Bozambo = I AT 118-B (Paperino e la trib? dei Trumbombo)
(confirmed)

30.Flight Into Time = I AT 61-A (Paperino e la fuga nel tempo)

31.The Clock Crank = (not Italian, art by Dick Moores)

32.Robbery Under Alarms = I AT 127-B (Zio Paperone e le difese automatiche)

33.Harry's Revenge = (not Italian, art by Dick Moores)

34. = I AT 74-B (Topolino e l'astropluvio)

Marco

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Sue And Gary Leach
Eero-Pekka:

I don't know if this has been already discussed in here, but are there any
other stories only drawn by Don Rosa than just the story written by Jan
Kruse (Finnish title "Laiskanl?ksy", AA 25/1999)? And why did Don draw a
story written by someone else? An empty head or an empty pocket ;-)? Just
for a change presumably.

Don drew three two-pagers that I wrote back during Gladstone I. Yeah, he got
paid for them, but he did them mainly because we asked him if he would. (I
don't remember if I asked him myself, or Byron asked him, or what exactly;
the memory is most hazy there.) He already knew that doing other people's
stories wasn't his thing, but he was willing to give it a shot, and I really
have to salute him for putting himself through that.

Gary
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Eero-Pekka Halinen <e_halinen at hotmail.com> skrev:

> I don't know if this has been already discussed in
> here, but are there any other stories only drawn by
> Don Rosa than just the story written by Jan
> Kruse (Finnish title "Laiskanl?ksy", AA 25/1999)?

Yes. You can read most of them here:
http://duckman.pettho.com/gallery/index.html

And there are even some more:
Leaky Luck - Story by Evert Geradts
The Paper Chase - Story by Gary Leach

By the way, I know Gary reads DCML. So he may now give
us his comments about the 3 stories:
AR 107 - The Paper Chase
AR 116 - Rocket Reverie
AR 118 - Fiscal Fitness
Where he did the plot and where Don Rosa did the art
and ink.

Sigvald :-)

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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Willot_Fran?ois <Willot.Francois at ec-lille.fr> skrev:

> Sigvald, maybe you can provide here on DCML a list
> of the cover and stories in that comic book, so that
> we can complete the Rosa index?

Sorry! I don't have this magazine. You will have to
ask our friend Geir J. Netland about this.

Best regards from
Sigvald :-)

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Armando Botto
A few more ids for Tony:

> 6.Super Sales-Woman = (not Italian, art by Tony Strobl)

Most likely,
W WDC 313-06 The Brush Salesman

> 14."Gone With The Goon" = (Italian, art by Chierchini, the plot would
help!)

I AT 77-A (Paperino e la danza catastrofica)

> 20.Desert Luck = (not Italian, art by Dick Moores)

Must be (also judging from the printed code in the scan)
W MM 32-03 Goofy's Duck Lake

> 21.Great T.V. Mystery = (Italian, art by Onofrio Bramante, the plot would
help!)

A possible candidate for Marco to check:
I AT 77-B Topolino e i ladri elettronici

> 23.Troubled Technicians = (not Italian, ar by Paul Murry)

W MM 68-02 Troubled Trouble Shooter

> 25.Perilous Assignment = (probably NOT Italian, more scans and the plot
would help!)

It's a Bradbury story. We know a French reprint, titled "Mickey contre les
gloutomollusques" (Picsou Magazine # 17), but not identified yet. The plot
would indeed help!

> 26.The Mystery Of The Misguided Missiles = (not Italian)

W MM 40-02 Mystery of the Misguided Missiles

> 31.The Clock Crank = (not Italian, art by Dick Moores)

Could be
W DD 33-03 (Skiing clock bandit)

Ciao,
Armando
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Halsten Aastebol
This morning there was an article in the local newspaper here in Trondheim
about some Australian scientists experimenting on teleportation
(instantaneously moving mass from one point to another). What they wanted
to do was "copying" an atom from one place to another using information
technology. Well, this seems like sheer science fiction to me, but to bring
this on topic: The article had a brilliant illustration: A panel from
Barks' 10-pager "Stranger than fiction" from WDC 249. The panel is the one
showing doctors trying to help Donald when his upper half is attached to
the device in Donald's house while his legs are left in Gyro's office
because of a power outage at Gyro's. The text under the illustration says
something like: "There can be problems connected to teleportation, like
when Donald's legs are left behind in Gyro's office because of a power outage"

Barks can be used to almost anything!

Regards
Halsten
H.W.Fluks
Halsten:

> The article had a brilliant illustration: A panel from
> Barks' 10-pager "Stranger than fiction" from WDC 249.

That's a nine-pager actually. The original 10th page has been teleported
into a different dimension.

--Harry.
8-)
Kriton Kyrimis
HALSTEN:

> some Australian scientists experimenting on teleportation
> (instantaneously moving mass from one point to another). What they wanted
> to do was "copying" an atom from one place to another using information
> technology.

If they are successful, they will have a lot of trouble patenting their
process, given that a similar process has been described elsewhere,
before! (Wasn't this the case when someone was refused a patent for
his process for raising ships out of the sea bottom, because it was too
similar to Barks' suggestion of stuffing a ship with ping pong balls?)

Actually, from your brief description, I gather that what these people
are working on is not teleportation, but replication. They'll still have
trouble getting a patent, though, as Star Trek has had replicators for
more than a decade. (Tea, Earl Gray, hot, in a cup!)

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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