David Gerstein wrote:
> I feel the same way about Gottfredson's Mickey. He is eternally
> rushing into dangerous adventures with a schoolboy's overenthusiasm- an
> optimism which, in truth, also functions as Mickey's knee-jerk defense
> against a very real self-doubt. The most important moments for Mickey are
> the moments when he realizes that he is trapped, or otherwise confronted by
> hopelessness, and he sees the dark side of the impulsiveness that brought
> him there. He is miserable; he is human. And yet, when the stress is done
> with, his adventurous impulse rises again. It's as if he searches for
> excitement, tries to dive into the largeness of the world, to dodge the fact
> that on the flip side, its sheer size can also intimidate him a little.
> What a wonderfully real person such a mouse can become.
If I had to attribute an age to Barks' Donald and Gottfredson's Mickey I would say:
Donald is an older teenager: He is moody, sometimes depressed, sometimes overconfident.
He thinks of himself as an adult but still acts childish in many ways. He knows how
life is but has not yet come to terms with it.
Gottfredson's Mickey is a pre-school kid of five to eight years: He is still
young enough to have a child's raw energy and a child's interest in everything. But he is
already old enough to get glimpses of live beyond this age of innocence. He get's in contact
with hardships, with cruelty and even death. This is why in my opinion Mickey in his best
(early) Gottfredson days is an even more interesting character than Donald: because he is
a child acting as an adult. Like a child he throws himself head over heels into action,
acts intuitively and is very open-minded. And he acts like an adult: He takes responsibility,
helps people, and makes his own decisions. And this also means that, as David wrote, he gets
in contact the dark sides of life: He sees that there is failure, cruelty and death. In the
early strips Mickey tries to commit suicide (sic!) - this plot had been suggested by Disney
himself. But in spite of all this Mickey remains an innocent child. He shows us how our life
and the world could be if we would be able to preserve our own childhood. Instead what happens
to us is what also happened to Mickey: We grow up, we settle down, we get quieter, we loose
our dreams. Maybe the best example of this fascination Mickey has are the elaborate death traps
the Phantom Blot builds: They are deadly serious, yes, but they are also a (hild's)game, and
a very imaginative game at that. In later years in contrast we often have a Pet Leg Pete who
simply uses a pistol - which he never fires because children could be disturbed.
To put it in a nutshell: Barks' Donald is the teenager I was and Gottfredson's Mickey is the
adult I would like to be.
Cord
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Cord Wiljes
Gottfredson's Mickey
Message 196 -
2002-06-14 at 01:38:40
Jacob Berget
Correct address for "Disney's Hoozoo"
Message 197 -
2002-06-14 at 14:04:20
Is'nt the site closed?
/Jacob Berget
----- Original Message -----
From: <Cebarat at aol.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:19 PM
Subject: Correct address for "Disney's Hoozoo"
> I seem to have misplaced the revised address for Rich Bellacera's "Disney's Hoozoo" web site. Can anyone enlighten me on the correct address?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Barat
>
/Jacob Berget
----- Original Message -----
From: <Cebarat at aol.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:19 PM
Subject: Correct address for "Disney's Hoozoo"
> I seem to have misplaced the revised address for Rich Bellacera's "Disney's Hoozoo" web site. Can anyone enlighten me on the correct address?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Barat
>
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
I need help with Portuguese and Spanish names
Message 198 -
2002-06-14 at 14:14:11
Hi all!
I have browsed throught my "Who's who in Duckburg"
pages and found that I lack the following names in:
Portuguese:
-------------
a) Dismal Downs (The Part of Rannoch more where the
McDuck castle is located).
b) Fulton Gearloose (The father of Gyro)
c) Scottie McTerrier (the caretaker of the McDuck
castle) seen in Lo$ part IX. Dead in "The old castles
secret" by Barks.
d) The McVipers (bandits in Lo$ part III) and in the
Barks story "Mystery of the Ghost Town Railroad".
e) Howard Rockerduck (the father of John D.
Rockerduck). He appears in Lo$ part IV.
f) Hortense/Widdow maker (Scrooges horse in his
younger days). Appears in Lo$ part III and IV + "The
Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" and "The Cowboy Captian of
the Cutty Sark".
g) Kill Motor Hill/Kill Mule Hill (The hill where
Scrooges Money Bin is located).
h) Drakeborough (The old name of the Duckburgarea).
Mentioned in "His Majesty McDuck" and "The Guardians
of The Lost Library".
Spanish:
-------------
a) Downy O'Drake (Scrooges mother) Mentioned several
places in Lo$.
b) Malcolm McDuck (A McDuck ancestor) Mentioned in
"Back to long ago".
c) Scottie McTerrier (the caretaker of the McDuck
castle) seen in Lo$ part IX. Dead in "The old castles
secret" by Barks.
d) Jos? Carioca. Donalds' Barzilian Friend.
e) Panchito Pistoles. Donalds' Mexican Friend.
f) Drakeborough (The old name of the Duckburgarea).
Mentioned in "His Majesty McDuck" and "The Guardians
of The Lost Library".
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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I have browsed throught my "Who's who in Duckburg"
pages and found that I lack the following names in:
Portuguese:
-------------
a) Dismal Downs (The Part of Rannoch more where the
McDuck castle is located).
b) Fulton Gearloose (The father of Gyro)
c) Scottie McTerrier (the caretaker of the McDuck
castle) seen in Lo$ part IX. Dead in "The old castles
secret" by Barks.
d) The McVipers (bandits in Lo$ part III) and in the
Barks story "Mystery of the Ghost Town Railroad".
e) Howard Rockerduck (the father of John D.
Rockerduck). He appears in Lo$ part IV.
f) Hortense/Widdow maker (Scrooges horse in his
younger days). Appears in Lo$ part III and IV + "The
Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" and "The Cowboy Captian of
the Cutty Sark".
g) Kill Motor Hill/Kill Mule Hill (The hill where
Scrooges Money Bin is located).
h) Drakeborough (The old name of the Duckburgarea).
Mentioned in "His Majesty McDuck" and "The Guardians
of The Lost Library".
Spanish:
-------------
a) Downy O'Drake (Scrooges mother) Mentioned several
places in Lo$.
b) Malcolm McDuck (A McDuck ancestor) Mentioned in
"Back to long ago".
c) Scottie McTerrier (the caretaker of the McDuck
castle) seen in Lo$ part IX. Dead in "The old castles
secret" by Barks.
d) Jos? Carioca. Donalds' Barzilian Friend.
e) Panchito Pistoles. Donalds' Mexican Friend.
f) Drakeborough (The old name of the Duckburgarea).
Mentioned in "His Majesty McDuck" and "The Guardians
of The Lost Library".
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Scotty McTerrier, J. Carioca, P. Pistoles and Little Booneheads
Message 199 -
2002-06-14 at 14:21:40
Hi all!
I need help with the names in some languages for 4 of
the characters included in my "Who's who in Duckburg"
pages. Here is what I need:
The name for Scottie McTerrier in:
a) Danish
b) Dutch
c) Finnish
d) French
e) German
f) Italian
g) Swedish
The name for Jos? Carioca in:
a) Dutch
b) Finnish
c) French
d) German
e) Italian
The name for Panchito Pistoles in:
a) Dutch
b) Finnish
c) French
d) German
e) Italian
The name for The Little Booneheads in:
a) French
b) German
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
______________________________________________________
F?lg VM i fotball 2002 p? http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
I need help with the names in some languages for 4 of
the characters included in my "Who's who in Duckburg"
pages. Here is what I need:
The name for Scottie McTerrier in:
a) Danish
b) Dutch
c) Finnish
d) French
e) German
f) Italian
g) Swedish
The name for Jos? Carioca in:
a) Dutch
b) Finnish
c) French
d) German
e) Italian
The name for Panchito Pistoles in:
a) Dutch
b) Finnish
c) French
d) German
e) Italian
The name for The Little Booneheads in:
a) French
b) German
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
______________________________________________________
F?lg VM i fotball 2002 p? http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Olivier
Scotty McTerrier, J. Carioca, P. Pistoles and Little Booneheads
Message 200 -
2002-06-14 at 14:34:09
Hi everyone!
Sigvald:
>>> The name for Scottie McTerrier, Jos? Carioca, Panchito Pistoles in French:
I have not checked but I guess Jos? & Panchito's names are the same.
I don't know whether they kept Scottie's name.
Sorry I can't be of much help. Fran?ois will surely know ;) .
Olivier
Sigvald:
>>> The name for Scottie McTerrier, Jos? Carioca, Panchito Pistoles in French:
I have not checked but I guess Jos? & Panchito's names are the same.
I don't know whether they kept Scottie's name.
Sorry I can't be of much help. Fran?ois will surely know ;) .
Olivier
Ari Seppi
Scotty McTerrier, J. Carioca, P. Pistoles and Little
Message 201 -
2002-06-14 at 15:46:46
Sigvald:
>The name for Scottie McTerrier in:
>c) Finnish
Skotti MacTerrier.
>The name for Jos? Carioca in:
>b) Finnish
Jos? Carioca (in older publications ? was changed to e).
>The name for Panchito Pistoles in:
>b) Finnish
Panchito Pistoles.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
>The name for Scottie McTerrier in:
>c) Finnish
Skotti MacTerrier.
>The name for Jos? Carioca in:
>b) Finnish
Jos? Carioca (in older publications ? was changed to e).
>The name for Panchito Pistoles in:
>b) Finnish
Panchito Pistoles.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
Goofy313g
French names (to Sigvald)
Message 202 -
2002-06-14 at 15:51:40
As olivier told u, the names of Panchito and Jose are the same. I don't think
we have the name for the booneheads...
Scottie is still Scottie McTerrier.
waitaminit.... in the story by don rosa, "Mythological menagerie", I think
Donald says that when he was a child, he belonged to the booneheads, didn't
he?? if it is the one, so the french translation was "les Petits Chasseurs de
Troph?es" (the little trophy's hunters).Oh!! I have better!! I have the story
by barks.. in this one, it is "Les Petits Chasseurs" (the little hunters, not
trophys hunters)
I have something interresting.. In french, his horse inSenor Martinez too,
but I have got an old story (I think it is from JM67), where his horse is
called Se?or Hudada (Hue da da is what we are supposed to tell to a horse to
make him run...)
Gilles
we have the name for the booneheads...
Scottie is still Scottie McTerrier.
waitaminit.... in the story by don rosa, "Mythological menagerie", I think
Donald says that when he was a child, he belonged to the booneheads, didn't
he?? if it is the one, so the french translation was "les Petits Chasseurs de
Troph?es" (the little trophy's hunters).Oh!! I have better!! I have the story
by barks.. in this one, it is "Les Petits Chasseurs" (the little hunters, not
trophys hunters)
I have something interresting.. In french, his horse inSenor Martinez too,
but I have got an old story (I think it is from JM67), where his horse is
called Se?or Hudada (Hue da da is what we are supposed to tell to a horse to
make him run...)
Gilles
Olivier
French names (to Sigvald)
Message 203 -
2002-06-14 at 17:31:04
Gilles:
>>I have something interresting.. In french, his horse inSenor Martinez too, but I have
>>got an old story (I think it is from JM67), where his horse is called Se?or Hudada
I have a few Panchito & Hudada one-pagers (in Super Mickey G?ant).
>>(Hue da da is what we are supposed to tell to a horse to make him run...)
It's not exactly the same as "Giidyap" and so forth, though: "dada" is the childish name for a horse
Olivier
>>I have something interresting.. In french, his horse inSenor Martinez too, but I have
>>got an old story (I think it is from JM67), where his horse is called Se?or Hudada
I have a few Panchito & Hudada one-pagers (in Super Mickey G?ant).
>>(Hue da da is what we are supposed to tell to a horse to make him run...)
It's not exactly the same as "Giidyap" and so forth, though: "dada" is the childish name for a horse
Olivier
Willot François
French names (to Sigvald)
Message 204 -
2002-06-14 at 17:46:08
-----Original Message-----
From: Olivier
Gilles:
>>I have something interresting.. In french, his horse inSenor Martinez
too, but I have
>>got an old story (I think it is from JM67), where his horse is called
Se?or Hudada
I have a few Panchito & Hudada one-pagers (in Super Mickey G?ant).
--------------------------
Isn't it "Special Mickey Geant"? Or what is "Super Mickey Geant"?
From: Olivier
Gilles:
>>I have something interresting.. In french, his horse inSenor Martinez
too, but I have
>>got an old story (I think it is from JM67), where his horse is called
Se?or Hudada
I have a few Panchito & Hudada one-pagers (in Super Mickey G?ant).
--------------------------
Isn't it "Special Mickey Geant"? Or what is "Super Mickey Geant"?
Olivier
French names (to Sigvald)
Message 205 -
2002-06-14 at 18:12:08
RE: french names (to Sigvald)Fran?ois:
>>>Isn't it "Special Mickey Geant"? Or what is "Super Mickey Geant"?
correct, my mistake: "Sp?cial" (not "Super", like the "Picsou" one), though both were indeed super
:D
Olivier
>>>Isn't it "Special Mickey Geant"? Or what is "Super Mickey Geant"?
correct, my mistake: "Sp?cial" (not "Super", like the "Picsou" one), though both were indeed super
:D
Olivier
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
Scotty McTerrier, J. Carioca, P. Pistoles and Little Booneheads
Message 206 -
2002-06-14 at 21:17:12
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
> The name for Scottie McTerrier in:
> a) Danish
According to D 93121 "The Billionaire of Dismal Downs" it is "Scottie McPom"
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
> The name for Scottie McTerrier in:
> a) Danish
According to D 93121 "The Billionaire of Dismal Downs" it is "Scottie McPom"
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
Cord Wiljes
Gottfredson's Mickey
Message 207 -
2002-06-14 at 22:22:54
David Gerstein wrote:
> I feel the same way about Gottfredson's Mickey. He is eternally
> rushing into dangerous adventures with a schoolboy's overenthusiasm- an
> optimism which, in truth, also functions as Mickey's knee-jerk defense
> against a very real self-doubt. The most important moments for Mickey are
> the moments when he realizes that he is trapped, or otherwise confronted by
> hopelessness, and he sees the dark side of the impulsiveness that brought
> him there. He is miserable; he is human. And yet, when the stress is done
> with, his adventurous impulse rises again. It's as if he searches for
> excitement, tries to dive into the largeness of the world, to dodge the fact
> that on the flip side, its sheer size can also intimidate him a little.
> What a wonderfully real person such a mouse can become.
If I had to attribute an age to Barks' Donald and Gottfredson's Mickey I would say:
Donald is an older teenager: He is moody, sometimes depressed, sometimes overconfident.
He thinks of himself as an adult but still acts childish in many ways. He knows how
life is but has not yet come to terms with it.
Gottfredson's Mickey is a pre-school kid of five to eight years: He is still
young enough to have a child's raw energy and a child's interest in everything. But he is
already old enough to get glimpses of life beyond this age of innocence. He gets in contact
with hardships, with cruelty and even death. Mickey is a child acting as an adult. Or an
adult with s child's personality. He is Walt Disney's alter ego in this regard - even in
Gottfredson's strips. Like a child he throws himself head over heels into action,
acts intuitively and is very open-minded. And he acts like an adult: He takes responsibility,
helps people, and makes his own decisions. Which also means that he makes mistakes which
he regrets afterwards. He sees that there is failure, cruelty and death. In the early strips
Mickey tries to commit suicide (this plot had been suggested by Disney himself). But in
spite of this Mickey remains an innocent child. He shows us how our life and the world
could be if we were able to preserve our own childhood. Instead what happens
to us is what also happened to Mickey over the yeard: We grow up, we settle down, we get
more quiet, we loose our dreams. Maybe the best example are the elaborate death traps
the Phantom Blot builds: They are deadly serious, yes, but they are also a (child's)game,
and a very imaginative game at that. In later years in contrast we often have a Pet Leg
Pete who simply uses a pistol, which he never fires because children could be disturbed.
Of course there also were very good Micky stories done in later year and by other artists,
but nevertheless I still miss the raw and untamed Mickey charm of the early years.
And what I bemoan even more is the lack of a complete reprint of Gottfredson's Mickey strips.
The "Mickey Mouse in Color" book is great and the reprints in Gladstone's "Mickey Mouse"
series have been much appreciated. But a complete edition in good quality like the Barks library
would be a dream come true.
Cord
> I feel the same way about Gottfredson's Mickey. He is eternally
> rushing into dangerous adventures with a schoolboy's overenthusiasm- an
> optimism which, in truth, also functions as Mickey's knee-jerk defense
> against a very real self-doubt. The most important moments for Mickey are
> the moments when he realizes that he is trapped, or otherwise confronted by
> hopelessness, and he sees the dark side of the impulsiveness that brought
> him there. He is miserable; he is human. And yet, when the stress is done
> with, his adventurous impulse rises again. It's as if he searches for
> excitement, tries to dive into the largeness of the world, to dodge the fact
> that on the flip side, its sheer size can also intimidate him a little.
> What a wonderfully real person such a mouse can become.
If I had to attribute an age to Barks' Donald and Gottfredson's Mickey I would say:
Donald is an older teenager: He is moody, sometimes depressed, sometimes overconfident.
He thinks of himself as an adult but still acts childish in many ways. He knows how
life is but has not yet come to terms with it.
Gottfredson's Mickey is a pre-school kid of five to eight years: He is still
young enough to have a child's raw energy and a child's interest in everything. But he is
already old enough to get glimpses of life beyond this age of innocence. He gets in contact
with hardships, with cruelty and even death. Mickey is a child acting as an adult. Or an
adult with s child's personality. He is Walt Disney's alter ego in this regard - even in
Gottfredson's strips. Like a child he throws himself head over heels into action,
acts intuitively and is very open-minded. And he acts like an adult: He takes responsibility,
helps people, and makes his own decisions. Which also means that he makes mistakes which
he regrets afterwards. He sees that there is failure, cruelty and death. In the early strips
Mickey tries to commit suicide (this plot had been suggested by Disney himself). But in
spite of this Mickey remains an innocent child. He shows us how our life and the world
could be if we were able to preserve our own childhood. Instead what happens
to us is what also happened to Mickey over the yeard: We grow up, we settle down, we get
more quiet, we loose our dreams. Maybe the best example are the elaborate death traps
the Phantom Blot builds: They are deadly serious, yes, but they are also a (child's)game,
and a very imaginative game at that. In later years in contrast we often have a Pet Leg
Pete who simply uses a pistol, which he never fires because children could be disturbed.
Of course there also were very good Micky stories done in later year and by other artists,
but nevertheless I still miss the raw and untamed Mickey charm of the early years.
And what I bemoan even more is the lack of a complete reprint of Gottfredson's Mickey strips.
The "Mickey Mouse in Color" book is great and the reprints in Gladstone's "Mickey Mouse"
series have been much appreciated. But a complete edition in good quality like the Barks library
would be a dream come true.
Cord
Frank Bubacz
Scotty McTerrier, J. Carioca, P. Pistoles and Little Booneheads
Message 208 -
2002-06-14 at 23:15:24
>From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald4 at yahoo.no>
>The name for Scottie McTerrier in:
>German
In Barks' "The Old Castle's Secret" he is called Scotty McTerrier.
(Note the "y". Why the "y"? Why, I don't know why!)
>The name for Jos? Carioca
>The name for Panchito Pistoles in:
>German
To me they are only known as Joe Carioca and Panchito. But maybe nowadays
they have their full name in Germany, too?
>The name for The Little Booneheads in:
>German
In the German version of WDC 132 Donald doesn't give the name of the
organization he belonged to, only one of the nephews makes fun of him
and asks if he was a member of the "F?hnlein Faselkopf" (~Drivellers).
Now, I don't think that they used THAT name in the Rosa albums...
I hope there's a German in the list who has the albums in question and can
be a better help.
Frank
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>The name for Scottie McTerrier in:
>German
In Barks' "The Old Castle's Secret" he is called Scotty McTerrier.
(Note the "y". Why the "y"? Why, I don't know why!)
>The name for Jos? Carioca
>The name for Panchito Pistoles in:
>German
To me they are only known as Joe Carioca and Panchito. But maybe nowadays
they have their full name in Germany, too?
>The name for The Little Booneheads in:
>German
In the German version of WDC 132 Donald doesn't give the name of the
organization he belonged to, only one of the nephews makes fun of him
and asks if he was a member of the "F?hnlein Faselkopf" (~Drivellers).
Now, I don't think that they used THAT name in the Rosa albums...
I hope there's a German in the list who has the albums in question and can
be a better help.
Frank
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LVD's debut in print
Message 209 -
2002-06-15 at 00:21:46
Thanks, David, for your lively description of the Taliaferro Sunday page
of September 24, 1961.
Everybody please excuse the nitpicking, but I still want to find out which
was published first, the Sunday page or this HDL story:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+DG+++49-03
Francois suggested that the Dell Giant was published one or two months
earlier than October, but I always thought that INDUCKS/COA give the first
possible publishing date. For example I know that US 35 (published
during the same time) had the date "September-November" on the cover, but
INDUCKS only says "September".
Does anybody know exactly about the publishing habits of Dell in those days?
Frank
BTW, before I forget it: Researching the release date for "An Adventure In
Color" (LVD's film debut) online, I was surprised to find a whole site
dedicated to Ludwig, which is especially interesting for some songs
included: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/4591/
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of September 24, 1961.
Everybody please excuse the nitpicking, but I still want to find out which
was published first, the Sunday page or this HDL story:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+DG+++49-03
Francois suggested that the Dell Giant was published one or two months
earlier than October, but I always thought that INDUCKS/COA give the first
possible publishing date. For example I know that US 35 (published
during the same time) had the date "September-November" on the cover, but
INDUCKS only says "September".
Does anybody know exactly about the publishing habits of Dell in those days?
Frank
BTW, before I forget it: Researching the release date for "An Adventure In
Color" (LVD's film debut) online, I was surprised to find a whole site
dedicated to Ludwig, which is especially interesting for some songs
included: http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/4591/
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I need help with Portuguese and Spanish names
Message 210 -
2002-06-15 at 09:45:42
Hello Sigvald:
I speak and I have read comics in Spanish (my native language). Although in my
country (Per?) never produced comics, I could buy comics of Mexico, Chile,
Argentina and Colombia. And from time to time some coming from Spain. Although
in Latin America there were several agreements with the names, many names
translated by Spain differed enough of those used in America.
GIL PATO or T?O GILITO? Of where that name came out? If there is some from
Spanish in the list, would request him, than did me the great favor of
explaining to me if "GIL" has some special connotation in Spain.
In America it is good known as RICO Mc PATO, disappearing the original name of
Scrooge (to think that their true name newly discovered it only seven years ago
when his adventures have read them more than for 30 years)
Regrettably at the present time only comics of second hand or "offers" coming
from United States arrive to my country. And they are sometimes expensive. For
that reason I have liked a lot to find this List and their interest for the
family of Ducks and of the generosity of their members in sharing information
and comics escaneados.
Wanting to contribute my grain of sand I am giving some translations to the
spanish (of Latin America):
JOS? CARIOCA is well written
PANCHITO PISTOLAS is the correct name, no "Pistoles"
I possess an ago 20 year-old old Mexican magazine where the printed history is
"The old castles
secret".
There are Scottie McTerrier is simply called Mc TON and Sir Quackly is called
SIR GRAZN?N (if you want I send you the escaneado from that page to your
personal e-mail).
Of the other names that are more recent I don't have reference.
Personally I am not in favor that the Own names are translated in other
languages. These should always be same, but maybe it would not be of the popular
acceptance characteristic of each country.
Greetings
DAVID
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald4 at yahoo.no>
To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:14 AM
Subject: I need help with Portuguese and Spanish names
> Hi all!
>
> I have browsed throught my "Who's who in Duckburg"
> pages and found that I lack the following names in:
>
> Portuguese:
> -------------
> a) Dismal Downs (The Part of Rannoch more where the
> McDuck castle is located).
>
> b) Fulton Gearloose (The father of Gyro)
>
> c) Scottie McTerrier (the caretaker of the McDuck
> castle) seen in Lo$ part IX. Dead in "The old castles
> secret" by Barks.
>
> d) The McVipers (bandits in Lo$ part III) and in the
> Barks story "Mystery of the Ghost Town Railroad".
>
> e) Howard Rockerduck (the father of John D.
> Rockerduck). He appears in Lo$ part IV.
>
> f) Hortense/Widdow maker (Scrooges horse in his
> younger days). Appears in Lo$ part III and IV + "The
> Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" and "The Cowboy Captian of
> the Cutty Sark".
>
> g) Kill Motor Hill/Kill Mule Hill (The hill where
> Scrooges Money Bin is located).
>
> h) Drakeborough (The old name of the Duckburgarea).
> Mentioned in "His Majesty McDuck" and "The Guardians
> of The Lost Library".
>
>
> Spanish:
> -------------
> a) Downy O'Drake (Scrooges mother) Mentioned several
> places in Lo$.
>
> b) Malcolm McDuck (A McDuck ancestor) Mentioned in
> "Back to long ago".
>
> c) Scottie McTerrier (the caretaker of the McDuck
> castle) seen in Lo$ part IX. Dead in "The old castles
> secret" by Barks.
>
> d) Jos? Carioca. Donalds' Barzilian Friend.
>
> e) Panchito Pistoles. Donalds' Mexican Friend.
>
> f) Drakeborough (The old name of the Duckburgarea).
> Mentioned in "His Majesty McDuck" and "The Guardians
> of The Lost Library".
>
>
> Best regards from
> Sigvald :-)
>
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>
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I speak and I have read comics in Spanish (my native language). Although in my
country (Per?) never produced comics, I could buy comics of Mexico, Chile,
Argentina and Colombia. And from time to time some coming from Spain. Although
in Latin America there were several agreements with the names, many names
translated by Spain differed enough of those used in America.
GIL PATO or T?O GILITO? Of where that name came out? If there is some from
Spanish in the list, would request him, than did me the great favor of
explaining to me if "GIL" has some special connotation in Spain.
In America it is good known as RICO Mc PATO, disappearing the original name of
Scrooge (to think that their true name newly discovered it only seven years ago
when his adventures have read them more than for 30 years)
Regrettably at the present time only comics of second hand or "offers" coming
from United States arrive to my country. And they are sometimes expensive. For
that reason I have liked a lot to find this List and their interest for the
family of Ducks and of the generosity of their members in sharing information
and comics escaneados.
Wanting to contribute my grain of sand I am giving some translations to the
spanish (of Latin America):
JOS? CARIOCA is well written
PANCHITO PISTOLAS is the correct name, no "Pistoles"
I possess an ago 20 year-old old Mexican magazine where the printed history is
"The old castles
secret".
There are Scottie McTerrier is simply called Mc TON and Sir Quackly is called
SIR GRAZN?N (if you want I send you the escaneado from that page to your
personal e-mail).
Of the other names that are more recent I don't have reference.
Personally I am not in favor that the Own names are translated in other
languages. These should always be same, but maybe it would not be of the popular
acceptance characteristic of each country.
Greetings
DAVID
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald4 at yahoo.no>
To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 6:14 AM
Subject: I need help with Portuguese and Spanish names
> Hi all!
>
> I have browsed throught my "Who's who in Duckburg"
> pages and found that I lack the following names in:
>
> Portuguese:
> -------------
> a) Dismal Downs (The Part of Rannoch more where the
> McDuck castle is located).
>
> b) Fulton Gearloose (The father of Gyro)
>
> c) Scottie McTerrier (the caretaker of the McDuck
> castle) seen in Lo$ part IX. Dead in "The old castles
> secret" by Barks.
>
> d) The McVipers (bandits in Lo$ part III) and in the
> Barks story "Mystery of the Ghost Town Railroad".
>
> e) Howard Rockerduck (the father of John D.
> Rockerduck). He appears in Lo$ part IV.
>
> f) Hortense/Widdow maker (Scrooges horse in his
> younger days). Appears in Lo$ part III and IV + "The
> Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" and "The Cowboy Captian of
> the Cutty Sark".
>
> g) Kill Motor Hill/Kill Mule Hill (The hill where
> Scrooges Money Bin is located).
>
> h) Drakeborough (The old name of the Duckburgarea).
> Mentioned in "His Majesty McDuck" and "The Guardians
> of The Lost Library".
>
>
> Spanish:
> -------------
> a) Downy O'Drake (Scrooges mother) Mentioned several
> places in Lo$.
>
> b) Malcolm McDuck (A McDuck ancestor) Mentioned in
> "Back to long ago".
>
> c) Scottie McTerrier (the caretaker of the McDuck
> castle) seen in Lo$ part IX. Dead in "The old castles
> secret" by Barks.
>
> d) Jos? Carioca. Donalds' Barzilian Friend.
>
> e) Panchito Pistoles. Donalds' Mexican Friend.
>
> f) Drakeborough (The old name of the Duckburgarea).
> Mentioned in "His Majesty McDuck" and "The Guardians
> of The Lost Library".
>
>
> Best regards from
> Sigvald :-)
>
> ______________________________________________________
> F?lg VM i fotball 2002 p? http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
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