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Hi all!
Today links to several WEB-pages dedicated to Ludwig von Drake have been posted here on DCML. I find these pages interesting, but also a bit annoying since they seem to be lacking important facts about the character, such as his marriage with Matilda McDuck.
Sigvald :-)

Today several messages from Sigvald have been posted here on DCML. I find
such messages interesting, but also a bit annoying since they seem to be
lacking important properties such as politeness and positivity. And they are
for instance assuming that Von Drake's marriage with Scrooge's sister
Matilda McDuck is an "important fact".

Harry :-)

>From: sigvald at duckburg.dk
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Missing facts in Ludwig von Drake sites
>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:08:38 +0100 (CET)

>I find such pages interesting, but also a bit annoying since they seem to
>be lacking important facts about the character, such as his marriage with
>Scrooge's sister Matilda McDuck.

When/where/why did that (unimportant) fact happen?

Stefan

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Since months I don't laugh so much witn an DCML message!
It was great Stefan! :-)

I think the marriage fact wasn't pointed 'cause it's just know a lot here in
DCML (Since it came from a Don Rosa's idea), and it's just published in one
"official" Disney publication, that Donald Duck book I don't remember the
name...Am I right?

I've put my roughs from my unpublished Ludwig online:
www.inducks.hpg.com.br

Yes, it's in portuguese...and the "inducks" it's 'cause I pretend to do an
brazilian site dedicated to Inducks in the future! (It's an good idea to
popularize Inducks around the Disney brazilian creators, I assume...)

Hum...so I have an Ludwig site too! ;-))

Fernando!

Sigvald:

> > Today several messages from Sigvald have been posted here
> > on DCML. I find such messages interesting, but also a bit
> > annoying since they seem to be lacking important properties
> > such as politeness and positivity.
>
> This is not funny Harry

Have a look at the last DCML digest:

> Today's Topics:
[..]
> 9. New Von Drake Site !!! (goofy313g at aol.com)
> 10. Another Ludwig site! (Fernando Ventura)
> 11. re: New Von Drake Site !!! (xephyr at cwnet.com)

Three enthousiastic, positive messages about a new LVD website.

> 12. Missing facts in Ludwig von Drake sites (sigvald at duckburg.dk)
> 13. Missing facts in Ludwig von Drake sites (sigvald at duckburg.dk)

Two negative messages about that same website.

This confirms my idea that you always want to write negative things. Even if
you have to find something very minor to complain about.

> a) When there was a question about Swedish and Danish comics
> [..] Anyway, all I
> did was asking our Finnish friend a simple question - and he
> did answer it both quickly and polite.

I was not referring to this subject in any way. With "several messages" I
only meant #12 and #13 (see above).
I don't even recall what your other message was about.

> b) The reason my last mail about the LvD-sites was sent twice
> is that not all my mails sent from this mail account to DCML
> lately have reached the list.

If an e-mail does *not* reach the list, you get a bounce message. If you
think something is wrong, warn the list administrator (Per), using the admin
address.
In any case, it's of no use to send (nearly) the same message twice.
(BTW, in my previous mail I was not complaining about this. I only used the
term "several messages" because it resembled your own text.)

> > And they are for instance assuming that Von Drake's marriage
> > with Scrooge's sister Matilda McDuck is an "important fact".
>
> A marriage IS definitely a very important fact in anyone's life.

Yes. But Von Drake is not married. So it is not a *fact*. So you can't blame
a website maker for not mentioning it.

> Anyway I think that there are better ways of improving good
> communication on this group than to indicate that some of my
> postings are "lacking important properties such as politeness
> and positivity".

That was an attempt to get a message to you in a polite and positive way.
Without using words like "plonk" or "kill file", for instance.

> For instance you could - as an expert on the
> subject - have responded to the very interesting tread about
> the size of Duckburg,s population.

I can decide myself which threads to take part in.
And I don't need to write a message when I have nothing new to add.

Harry :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ola Martinsson" <Ola.Martinsson at uab.ericsson.se>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:27 PM
Subject: Can you watch a DVD for region 1 on a PAL TV ?

> But it is for region 1 only. Does anyone know if I can watch this with a
> region free DVD player and a PAL TV in Sweden ? The DVD player is in a
> PC and has been reprogrammed to be region free. It used to be a region 2
> DVD player.

There are two things to think of when watching DVD movies:

- format (PAL, NTSC, SECAM etc.), this should not cause any problems if
watching the movies on a computer, and
- region (free (anywhere), 1 (North America), 2 (Western Europe, Middle East
& Japan), 3 (South Korea, Republic of China and parts of south-east Asia), 4
(Australia and South America), 5 (Russia, North Korea, India and parts of
Asia), 6 (People's Republic of China), 7 (nowhere), 8 (airplanes (?) and
similar)), this usually doesn't cause any problems if the DVD player is set
to support any region.

So you would probably be able to watch the Walt Disney Treasures movies
without any problem.

Stefan

<H.W.Fluks at kpn.com> wrote:
>
> This confirms my idea that you always want to write negative
> things. Even if you have to find something very minor to
> complain about.

Well, that's *not* true. It was for instance ME who started
the topic which eventualy gave us information about the exact
publication of "Dream of a Lifetime".

>>> And they are for instance assuming that Von Drake's marriage
>>> with Scrooge's sister Matilda McDuck is an "important fact".
>>
>> A marriage IS definitely a very important fact in anyone's life.
>
> Yes. But Von Drake is not married. So it is not a *fact*.

In the Rosa universe he IS married... (That's also confirmed by
Fernando in another thread). And it is even logic. Even the
referred sites states that Ludwig is Donald's uncle. There is 4
ways that can be true (assuming uncle means uncle):
a) Ludwig could be Donald's father's brother
b) Ludwig could be Donald's mother's brother
c) Ludwig could be married to a sister of Donalds's father
d) Ludwig could be married to a sister of Donalds's mother

Since his name is "von Drake" and not Duck or McDuck
alternatives A and B are very little plausible. So
what's left is alternatives C and D.

Since Donald's father's only sister, Daphne Duck, is
married to Goostave Gander (Gladstone Gander's parents)
possibillity C is impossible. What's then left is
possibillity D.

You may argue that Ludwig never apears together with
Matilda. But that doesn't prove that they never did marry.
She may have died after a few years leaving him a widower.
Just like Grandma Duck is a widdow after Humerdink Duck.

> So you can't blame a website maker for not mentioning it.

I didn't mean to *blame* anyone. Just making a little point
out of that thread. I am very sorry if anyone in DCML in any
way felt offended by that.

>> For instance you could - as an expert on the subject
>> have responded to the very interesting tread about
>> the size of Duckburg,s population.
>
> I can decide myself which threads to take part in.
> And I don't need to write a message when I have
> nothing new to add.

Noting new to add?
Hmmm actually the topic started with a question if
Duckburg has 10.000 or more than 100.000 inhabitants.
As long as you haven't commented that no one can
possibly know what number you prefer.

Sigvald :-)

Thanks for the Ludwig links everyone - he's one of my favorites. I've
always thought he was under-appreciated.

Sonia