Re: Don Rosa is on strike
> The = Norwegian weekly sells 250,000 copies each week. No other publication
> =
> outsells it. Per capita, that would be like a North American comic book =
> selling about 80,000,000 copies every issue. And sales in Finland are =
> even better, at 350,000 copies per week.
Imagine if 600,000 readers in Norway and Finland refused to buy their comics
for a month in support of Don Rosa! And if sales throughout Europe came to a
halt for four weeks, well... just think about it!
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BFOSTERLA
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1143 - Don Rosa Strike
Message 301 -
2002-11-17 at 08:05:04
Kriton Kyrimis
Strobl and Gregory
Message 302 -
2002-11-17 at 08:35:53
HARRY:
> Except when the writer was Bob Gregory! He's my favourite non-Barks
> pre-1965 American writer.
Are these the Strobl stories to which people kept referreing, and which
Gladstone planned, but never managed, to reprint?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"It seems that your computers are as stubborn as you are."
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> Except when the writer was Bob Gregory! He's my favourite non-Barks
> pre-1965 American writer.
Are these the Strobl stories to which people kept referreing, and which
Gladstone planned, but never managed, to reprint?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
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Kriton Kyrimis
Scrooge's Money Bin is filled with invalid money?
Message 303 -
2002-11-17 at 09:01:25
> some or even maybe most of that money CANNOT be
> used, simply because coins and notes become invalid after some
> time when old series of coins and notes is removed in order to
> be replaced by new series.
If I understand correctly, this is not the case in the US, where, other
than being replaced because of normal wear and tear, coins and notes
remain in circulation forever. I don't know whether this is still the case
with new-style dollar bills, but it was certainly the case back in the
80s, when I was in the US, where, among the then common federal reserve
notes, I would find the occasional, older, silver certificate. And don't
forget Don's "Money Pit", where the old coins in Scrooge's bin were still
valid currency, but were worth a lot more than face value to collectors!
Back when the switch to the Euro occurred, I was chatting with an
American friend. At some point the subject turned to European money,
and I realized that she kept postponing changing some British pounds
that she had, thinking that they would be legal tender forever.
This does raise an interest point about Glomgold, however: is *his* money
bin full of useless, out of circulation, Rand notes? (On the other hand,
the sign on his money bin is a pound sign, so perhaps his bin is filled
with gold pounds, which are always worth their weight in gold--literally!)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"It is a wise precaution to send the occasional free-thinker to the flame."
-----
> used, simply because coins and notes become invalid after some
> time when old series of coins and notes is removed in order to
> be replaced by new series.
If I understand correctly, this is not the case in the US, where, other
than being replaced because of normal wear and tear, coins and notes
remain in circulation forever. I don't know whether this is still the case
with new-style dollar bills, but it was certainly the case back in the
80s, when I was in the US, where, among the then common federal reserve
notes, I would find the occasional, older, silver certificate. And don't
forget Don's "Money Pit", where the old coins in Scrooge's bin were still
valid currency, but were worth a lot more than face value to collectors!
Back when the switch to the Euro occurred, I was chatting with an
American friend. At some point the subject turned to European money,
and I realized that she kept postponing changing some British pounds
that she had, thinking that they would be legal tender forever.
This does raise an interest point about Glomgold, however: is *his* money
bin full of useless, out of circulation, Rand notes? (On the other hand,
the sign on his money bin is a pound sign, so perhaps his bin is filled
with gold pounds, which are always worth their weight in gold--literally!)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"It is a wise precaution to send the occasional free-thinker to the flame."
-----
Fabio Blanco
Correction -- Off by a century
Message 304 -
2002-11-17 at 09:34:37
*************
Uh? You not talking about Vietnam, Atlanta, Black panthers and Kent State?
:)
> Pardon my little typo. American civil war was in 1860's,
> not 1960's.
> ---Larry Giver.
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Uh? You not talking about Vietnam, Atlanta, Black panthers and Kent State?
:)
> Pardon my little typo. American civil war was in 1860's,
> not 1960's.
> ---Larry Giver.
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Søren Krarup Olesen
Free shot
Message 305 -
2002-11-17 at 10:52:36
MICHIEL:
M.J. Prior wrote:
> Sigvald to Soeren:
>
>>> Apart from the rubbish above, I had hoped that you knew your
>>> Ludwig better. He has never showed any interest in the opposite
>>> sex as far as I know.
>>
>> And when did Granda Duck show a greater interest in men???
Never, I guess. However, I seem to remember a story where she was mildly
erm charmed by someone... In other words, Grandma was probably never
married. She might of course have been married in her younger days, she
might also have been the first female duck on the Moon in her younger
days, only none of those pseudo facts show in the hundreds of stories
where she appears.
Yes, there are exceptions to all that--there are always exceptions. I
once read a Brazilian story, where Gyro falls in love with a Martian.
Now, does this mean that Gyro would be cheating on her, if he at some
point took a loving glance at another girl. I just don't think so.
S?ren
M.J. Prior wrote:
> Sigvald to Soeren:
>
>>> Apart from the rubbish above, I had hoped that you knew your
>>> Ludwig better. He has never showed any interest in the opposite
>>> sex as far as I know.
>>
>> And when did Granda Duck show a greater interest in men???
Never, I guess. However, I seem to remember a story where she was mildly
erm charmed by someone... In other words, Grandma was probably never
married. She might of course have been married in her younger days, she
might also have been the first female duck on the Moon in her younger
days, only none of those pseudo facts show in the hundreds of stories
where she appears.
Yes, there are exceptions to all that--there are always exceptions. I
once read a Brazilian story, where Gyro falls in love with a Martian.
Now, does this mean that Gyro would be cheating on her, if he at some
point took a loving glance at another girl. I just don't think so.
S?ren
Kai Saarto
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1143 - Don Rosa Strike
Message 306 -
2002-11-17 at 12:28:49
BFOSTERLA at aol.com wrote:
> Re: Don Rosa is on strike
>
>
>
>> The = Norwegian weekly sells 250,000 copies each week. No other
>> publication =
>> outsells it. Per capita, that would be like a North American comic book =
>> selling about 80,000,000 copies every issue. And sales in Finland are =
>> even better, at 350,000 copies per week.
>
>
>
> Imagine if 600,000 readers in Norway and Finland refused to buy their
> comics for a month in support of Don Rosa! And if sales throughout
> Europe came to a halt for four weeks, well... just think about it!
Of course it would be a force to reckon with, BUT I?d guess most of
those (at least in Finland) are subscriptions. As Don is like an
Honorary Citizen in Finland, thousands of fans could probably make a lot
of noise on his behalf, but it wouldn't hurt the sales of the weekly
magazine. The simple lack of hardbound albums that have been bi-annual
Christmas best-seller is likely to be a bigger monetary loss to Egmont
and other publishers.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
> Re: Don Rosa is on strike
>
>
>
>> The = Norwegian weekly sells 250,000 copies each week. No other
>> publication =
>> outsells it. Per capita, that would be like a North American comic book =
>> selling about 80,000,000 copies every issue. And sales in Finland are =
>> even better, at 350,000 copies per week.
>
>
>
> Imagine if 600,000 readers in Norway and Finland refused to buy their
> comics for a month in support of Don Rosa! And if sales throughout
> Europe came to a halt for four weeks, well... just think about it!
Of course it would be a force to reckon with, BUT I?d guess most of
those (at least in Finland) are subscriptions. As Don is like an
Honorary Citizen in Finland, thousands of fans could probably make a lot
of noise on his behalf, but it wouldn't hurt the sales of the weekly
magazine. The simple lack of hardbound albums that have been bi-annual
Christmas best-seller is likely to be a bigger monetary loss to Egmont
and other publishers.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Timo Ronkainen
Disney -- Strike Lates News from AF
Message 307 -
2002-11-17 at 15:55:37
Foewarding latest news from Anonima Fumetti news:
>While in Italy the Union of the comic artists (SILF/SLC/CGIL
>www.fumetti.org/silf) is fighting against the Disney Italy for the
>recognition of the reprint rights and the property of the original
>art, Don Rosa is on strike, as reported by the last issue of Comics
>Buyer's Guide (November 15, 2002) in the article by Mike Baron: "The
>popular writer and artist of Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge and Donald
>Duck comic books has finally put his foot down, after years of
>watching big-time European publishers use his name (read the complete
>article on CBG): "I stopped work as of last June. I was getting too
>frustrated and bitter about being one of the most well-known
>cartoonists in Europe and not making a dime off it." [omissis] Rosa
>said. "They have gotten used to not dealing with me when they reprint
>my work. Aside from the lack of royalties, the results embarrass me.
>My stories are often reprinted with incorrect pages of art, the
>coloring is improper or incorrect, the lettering is poor or missing
>altogether, the computer reproduction is pixilated. And I don't even
>know what's going on in the translations of my scripts. But the
>readers, aside from naturally assuming I get compensated for the
>books, also assume I have some control and naturally blame me for the
>errors!" He continued, "The only reason I do these comics in the
>first place is because I love working with the Carl Barks characters
>and stories I grew up with. I knew I could never get rich doing
>Disney comics. It was never my master plan to be world-famous. I just
>figured I'd be one of the dozens of other writers and artists who do
>these stories published in the weekly Donald Duck comics that are in
>virtually every country in Europe and Asia. [omissis] "The Donald
>Duck & Co. weekly is not simply the best-selling comic book in most
>of Europe; in many countries it's the best-selling anything. One
>example: The Norwegian weekly sells 250,000 copies each week. No
>other publication outsells it. Per capita, that would be like a North
>American comic book selling about 80,000,000 copies every issue. And
>sales in Finland are even better, at 350,000 copies per week. One out
>of every four people reads the Donald Duck comic every week in these
>entire nations. Sales are also brisk in Sweden, Denmark, France,
>Italy, and Germany and eastward across Europe through Russia, China,
>India, Indonesia, etc., and into Japan." [omissis] "It's a very slow
>prospect dealing with publishers in Europe. I don't have legal
>representation over there. I don't know how to contact authors'
>guilds or publishers' guilds for advice. Gaining contacts and
>representation from agents who can help me decide what to do is slow.
>All I can do is shut down and see if they'll come around."
>
>Sabato, 16 Novembre 2002 - Copyright by afnews and the Poster.
>
>
>Per vedere le immagini e seguire i link: www.fumetti.org/afnews
>To see the images and the links: http://www.fumetti.org/afnews
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>While in Italy the Union of the comic artists (SILF/SLC/CGIL
>www.fumetti.org/silf) is fighting against the Disney Italy for the
>recognition of the reprint rights and the property of the original
>art, Don Rosa is on strike, as reported by the last issue of Comics
>Buyer's Guide (November 15, 2002) in the article by Mike Baron: "The
>popular writer and artist of Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge and Donald
>Duck comic books has finally put his foot down, after years of
>watching big-time European publishers use his name (read the complete
>article on CBG): "I stopped work as of last June. I was getting too
>frustrated and bitter about being one of the most well-known
>cartoonists in Europe and not making a dime off it." [omissis] Rosa
>said. "They have gotten used to not dealing with me when they reprint
>my work. Aside from the lack of royalties, the results embarrass me.
>My stories are often reprinted with incorrect pages of art, the
>coloring is improper or incorrect, the lettering is poor or missing
>altogether, the computer reproduction is pixilated. And I don't even
>know what's going on in the translations of my scripts. But the
>readers, aside from naturally assuming I get compensated for the
>books, also assume I have some control and naturally blame me for the
>errors!" He continued, "The only reason I do these comics in the
>first place is because I love working with the Carl Barks characters
>and stories I grew up with. I knew I could never get rich doing
>Disney comics. It was never my master plan to be world-famous. I just
>figured I'd be one of the dozens of other writers and artists who do
>these stories published in the weekly Donald Duck comics that are in
>virtually every country in Europe and Asia. [omissis] "The Donald
>Duck & Co. weekly is not simply the best-selling comic book in most
>of Europe; in many countries it's the best-selling anything. One
>example: The Norwegian weekly sells 250,000 copies each week. No
>other publication outsells it. Per capita, that would be like a North
>American comic book selling about 80,000,000 copies every issue. And
>sales in Finland are even better, at 350,000 copies per week. One out
>of every four people reads the Donald Duck comic every week in these
>entire nations. Sales are also brisk in Sweden, Denmark, France,
>Italy, and Germany and eastward across Europe through Russia, China,
>India, Indonesia, etc., and into Japan." [omissis] "It's a very slow
>prospect dealing with publishers in Europe. I don't have legal
>representation over there. I don't know how to contact authors'
>guilds or publishers' guilds for advice. Gaining contacts and
>representation from agents who can help me decide what to do is slow.
>All I can do is shut down and see if they'll come around."
>
>Sabato, 16 Novembre 2002 - Copyright by afnews and the Poster.
>
>
>Per vedere le immagini e seguire i link: www.fumetti.org/afnews
>To see the images and the links: http://www.fumetti.org/afnews
^^''*''^^
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Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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Tony Strobl on THE JETSONS
Message 308 -
2002-11-17 at 17:32:11
Steven Rowe writes:
"Strobl also did most (if not all) of Gold Key's JETSONS comic."
Strobl certainly did MANY, and probably more than any other -- which would
put him into the "most" category.
Though, a fair amount of the Gold Key JETSONS comics were also done by Pete
Alvarado. The lead and final stories in issue # 1 may have been done by Dick
Hall (...better known for early Woody Woodpecker stories, and some "odd
looking Disney stories"of the early Gold Key period), with the cover and a
middle JETSONS story by Strobl, and a "Lippy the Lion" story by Phil De Lara.
After issue # 1, it was only Strobl and Alvarado on the JETSONS stories
(...though the "guest stories" may have had other artists) for the original
22 issues of the run. Issues 23-36 were exclusively reprints of the earlier
issues. Hall's stories in # 1, frankly, didn't look nearly as good as the
balance of the work by Strobl and Alvarado. After that, the title went to
Charlton Comics, where the atrocious art made even Dick Hall look like Carl
Barks circa 1948-1952!
Strobl also did the art for the two original JETSONS stories I have in MARCH
OF COMICS, so I'd say he was considered the "premier" JETSONS artist at
Western Publishing.,
Strobl was ACTUALLY CREDITED for his JETSONS art in HANNA-BARBERA SPOTLIGHT #
3, with stories written by Mark Evanier. This was published by Marvel Comics
in 1978, when Marvel briefly held the Hanna-Barbera license after Charlton.
By this time, however, Strobl's JETSONS were simply not on a par with fine
earlier Gold Key work. Pete Alvarado is also credited for the art on a
"Yakky Doodle" back up story.
It was nice to see these guys get credit on the printed page at last.
Joe Torcivia.
"Strobl also did most (if not all) of Gold Key's JETSONS comic."
Strobl certainly did MANY, and probably more than any other -- which would
put him into the "most" category.
Though, a fair amount of the Gold Key JETSONS comics were also done by Pete
Alvarado. The lead and final stories in issue # 1 may have been done by Dick
Hall (...better known for early Woody Woodpecker stories, and some "odd
looking Disney stories"of the early Gold Key period), with the cover and a
middle JETSONS story by Strobl, and a "Lippy the Lion" story by Phil De Lara.
After issue # 1, it was only Strobl and Alvarado on the JETSONS stories
(...though the "guest stories" may have had other artists) for the original
22 issues of the run. Issues 23-36 were exclusively reprints of the earlier
issues. Hall's stories in # 1, frankly, didn't look nearly as good as the
balance of the work by Strobl and Alvarado. After that, the title went to
Charlton Comics, where the atrocious art made even Dick Hall look like Carl
Barks circa 1948-1952!
Strobl also did the art for the two original JETSONS stories I have in MARCH
OF COMICS, so I'd say he was considered the "premier" JETSONS artist at
Western Publishing.,
Strobl was ACTUALLY CREDITED for his JETSONS art in HANNA-BARBERA SPOTLIGHT #
3, with stories written by Mark Evanier. This was published by Marvel Comics
in 1978, when Marvel briefly held the Hanna-Barbera license after Charlton.
By this time, however, Strobl's JETSONS were simply not on a par with fine
earlier Gold Key work. Pete Alvarado is also credited for the art on a
"Yakky Doodle" back up story.
It was nice to see these guys get credit on the printed page at last.
Joe Torcivia.
Cebarat
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1143 - 15 msgs
Message 309 -
2002-11-17 at 17:55:53
Larry Giver wrote:
> Pardon my little typo. American civil war was in 1860's,
> not 1960's.
> ---Larry Giver.
If you've read about or know anything about the 1960s in America, you might
consider challenging this statement, at least on a symbolic level... :-)
Chris Barat
> Pardon my little typo. American civil war was in 1860's,
> not 1960's.
> ---Larry Giver.
If you've read about or know anything about the 1960s in America, you might
consider challenging this statement, at least on a symbolic level... :-)
Chris Barat
Timo Ronkainen
- Don Rosa Strike
Message 310 -
2002-11-17 at 19:20:06
>Of course it would be a force to reckon with, BUT I´d guess most of those
>(at least in Finland) are subscriptions.
People could always cancel their subscriptions. But in the end, I'm afraid,
most of the readers doesn't care much if artists and writers get their
royalties or not. :-(
What could fandom do for creators? Perhaps we could send pleas to Disney
Italy, Egmont, etc? Would it help? Would it do any good at all?
Timo
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>(at least in Finland) are subscriptions.
People could always cancel their subscriptions. But in the end, I'm afraid,
most of the readers doesn't care much if artists and writers get their
royalties or not. :-(
What could fandom do for creators? Perhaps we could send pleas to Disney
Italy, Egmont, etc? Would it help? Would it do any good at all?
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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- Don Rosa Strike
Message 311 -
2002-11-17 at 19:34:17
timo ronkainen wrote:
>> Of course it would be a force to reckon with, BUT I?d guess most of
>> those (at least in Finland) are subscriptions.
>
>
> People could always cancel their subscriptions. But in the end, I'm
> afraid, most of the readers doesn't care much if artists and writers get
> their royalties or not. :-(
> What could fandom do for creators? Perhaps we could send pleas to Disney
> Italy, Egmont, etc? Would it help? Would it do any good at all?
We should hear what Egmont and others publishers have to say about this.
Maybe Rob Klein and others could shed some of light to the corporation
side of the matter? Why the policy is as it is? Would royalties and such
raise the price of the weeklies or just the re-prints like the hardbound
Rosa-books that are so popular.
Artist and writers should in my opinion get royalties for everything
that gets published after its appearance in the weeklies. They should
also get to keep originals as the publishers probably store the scans on
computers anyway.
As I'm no expert in the subject, I'd love to hear from those who are.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
>> Of course it would be a force to reckon with, BUT I?d guess most of
>> those (at least in Finland) are subscriptions.
>
>
> People could always cancel their subscriptions. But in the end, I'm
> afraid, most of the readers doesn't care much if artists and writers get
> their royalties or not. :-(
> What could fandom do for creators? Perhaps we could send pleas to Disney
> Italy, Egmont, etc? Would it help? Would it do any good at all?
We should hear what Egmont and others publishers have to say about this.
Maybe Rob Klein and others could shed some of light to the corporation
side of the matter? Why the policy is as it is? Would royalties and such
raise the price of the weeklies or just the re-prints like the hardbound
Rosa-books that are so popular.
Artist and writers should in my opinion get royalties for everything
that gets published after its appearance in the weeklies. They should
also get to keep originals as the publishers probably store the scans on
computers anyway.
As I'm no expert in the subject, I'd love to hear from those who are.
--
- Kai Saarto
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
Sigvald
Villain from "The Treasury of Croesus"
Message 312 -
2002-11-17 at 19:59:55
Hi all!
Can anyone tell me the name used in the US-edition for the
Turkish "Villain" in Don Rosa's "The Treasury of Croesus"?
Sigvald :-)
Can anyone tell me the name used in the US-edition for the
Turkish "Villain" in Don Rosa's "The Treasury of Croesus"?
Sigvald :-)
Timo Ronkainen
- Don Rosa Strike
Message 313 -
2002-11-17 at 20:14:22
>Would royalties and such raise the price of the weeklies or just the
>re-prints like the hardbound Rosa-books that are so popular.
Of course they should not. Reprints are gathering big enough profit for
publishers already, that few percents share from that profit for creators
wouldn't harm publisher nor Disney at all. But I'm afraid they could claim
that royalties would raise the prizes. :-/
Timo
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>re-prints like the hardbound Rosa-books that are so popular.
Of course they should not. Reprints are gathering big enough profit for
publishers already, that few percents share from that profit for creators
wouldn't harm publisher nor Disney at all. But I'm afraid they could claim
that royalties would raise the prizes. :-/
Timo
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Gary Leach
"strikes"
Message 314 -
2002-11-17 at 20:28:46
Don:
> Anyway, I ask all of you who think the thing to do is to write to
> Egmont or
> anyone else on my behalf to please NOT do so. If I can't work this out
> by
> simple ethics and honor and fair play among friendly people, there's no
> reason to try any other means. But thanks for the thought.
May not only those involved directly in this matter, but everyone here
on this mailing list, and anyone else who cares at all, respect these
words.
Dan:
So "Granny Clampett" is in truth (in the sitcom world) Daisy Moses.
Someone was being very sly in their cultural references there.
All:
The European Disney publishing power base switched from France (Disney
Paris) to Italy not too long ago, and now Disney comics creators there
are agitating for their rights. Interesting. Disney is indeed the
entity they, and all other creators who wants to see change, ultimately
have to get through to, and I'm not so sure that's quite the daunting
prospect it once was (or at least seemed to be). I hope I'm right.
Gary
> Anyway, I ask all of you who think the thing to do is to write to
> Egmont or
> anyone else on my behalf to please NOT do so. If I can't work this out
> by
> simple ethics and honor and fair play among friendly people, there's no
> reason to try any other means. But thanks for the thought.
May not only those involved directly in this matter, but everyone here
on this mailing list, and anyone else who cares at all, respect these
words.
Dan:
So "Granny Clampett" is in truth (in the sitcom world) Daisy Moses.
Someone was being very sly in their cultural references there.
All:
The European Disney publishing power base switched from France (Disney
Paris) to Italy not too long ago, and now Disney comics creators there
are agitating for their rights. Interesting. Disney is indeed the
entity they, and all other creators who wants to see change, ultimately
have to get through to, and I'm not so sure that's quite the daunting
prospect it once was (or at least seemed to be). I hope I'm right.
Gary
Sigvald
Badlands and other places in Don Rosa's stories
Message 315 -
2002-11-17 at 23:54:02
Hi all!
Can anyone please help me with this:
a) In Lo$ part III Scrooge goes to the Badlands. In what state
is that part of the Badlands?
b) Where is the land of the Pigmy Indians located.
c) In the end of "The Universal Solvent" our friends ends up in
a tunnel underneath a river in Duckburg. What is that river called
in the US-version of this story?
Sigvald :-)
Can anyone please help me with this:
a) In Lo$ part III Scrooge goes to the Badlands. In what state
is that part of the Badlands?
b) Where is the land of the Pigmy Indians located.
c) In the end of "The Universal Solvent" our friends ends up in
a tunnel underneath a river in Duckburg. What is that river called
in the US-version of this story?
Sigvald :-)