Sigvald wrote:
>That's *not* the problem here. My computer is well protected. The problem
>is that I can't stop this viruses from filling up my mailbox.
No, the problem is that I have to spend time deleting off-topic mails
because you keep on talking about viruses.
Please stop this nonsense, Sigvald. dcml is about DISNEY COMICS, not
viruses. This debate is going nowhere.
You are -><- *this* close to my killfilter!
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/
"Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
with the possible exception of bad news,
which obeys its own special laws."
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Vidar Svendsen
Another Greek "outlaw"
Message 46 -
2002-11-04 at 20:29:28
Sigvald
About the use of kill-filters
Message 47 -
2002-11-04 at 21:40:31
Klaus Harms <harms313 at web.de> wrote:
>I have extended my email kill filter: My mail server
>now automatically deletes anything that carries the
>string "virus" in the message body. No offense meant,
>Sigvald.
As long as you are doing the filtering by subject
it's completely OK, because then you are focusing
on subject, not on person.
Unfortunately some persons on this list now seems
to make this into a personal vendetta against me,
that's *not* serious and AFAIK that is usually also
considered to be bad netiquette. And calling *me* a
virus is definitely VERY close to personally insulting
me.
Anyway I take the signals and will try to calm
a bit down in the future, even though that will
sometimes be against my personal nature of
saying/writing exactly what I think there and
then.
Sigvald :-)
>I have extended my email kill filter: My mail server
>now automatically deletes anything that carries the
>string "virus" in the message body. No offense meant,
>Sigvald.
As long as you are doing the filtering by subject
it's completely OK, because then you are focusing
on subject, not on person.
Unfortunately some persons on this list now seems
to make this into a personal vendetta against me,
that's *not* serious and AFAIK that is usually also
considered to be bad netiquette. And calling *me* a
virus is definitely VERY close to personally insulting
me.
Anyway I take the signals and will try to calm
a bit down in the future, even though that will
sometimes be against my personal nature of
saying/writing exactly what I think there and
then.
Sigvald :-)
Dorilys From Gryffindor
Another Greek "outlaw"
Message 48 -
2002-11-04 at 21:56:45
I agree with Vidar, thats crazy. I just block Sigvald messages, sorry, but I
am tired from these virus stuff
Dorilys
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vidar Svendsen" <vidar-svendsen at c2i.net>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Another Greek "outlaw"
> Sigvald wrote:
> >That's *not* the problem here. My computer is well protected. The problem
> >is that I can't stop this viruses from filling up my mailbox.
>
> No, the problem is that I have to spend time deleting off-topic mails
> because you keep on talking about viruses.
> Please stop this nonsense, Sigvald. dcml is about DISNEY COMICS, not
> viruses. This debate is going nowhere.
> You are -><- *this* close to my killfilter!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> Vidar Svendsen http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/
>
> "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
> with the possible exception of bad news,
> which obeys its own special laws."
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
am tired from these virus stuff
Dorilys
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vidar Svendsen" <vidar-svendsen at c2i.net>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Another Greek "outlaw"
> Sigvald wrote:
> >That's *not* the problem here. My computer is well protected. The problem
> >is that I can't stop this viruses from filling up my mailbox.
>
> No, the problem is that I have to spend time deleting off-topic mails
> because you keep on talking about viruses.
> Please stop this nonsense, Sigvald. dcml is about DISNEY COMICS, not
> viruses. This debate is going nowhere.
> You are -><- *this* close to my killfilter!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> Vidar Svendsen http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/
>
> "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
> with the possible exception of bad news,
> which obeys its own special laws."
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
Tomas Österman
How about a little Christmas spirit?
Message 49 -
2002-11-04 at 22:09:31
Nils wrote:
I seem to remember another great Christmas story which was very much in the Barks spirit. Donald is a forest ranger and tries desperateley to get home for Christmas. I think it was drawn by Vicar. Does anybody know the story code? Do you mean D 99008? That's at least the one story that struck me when I read your description (please note that it is not drawn by Vicar).
/Tomas ÖBroadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. Click Here
I seem to remember another great Christmas story which was very much in the Barks spirit. Donald is a forest ranger and tries desperateley to get home for Christmas. I think it was drawn by Vicar. Does anybody know the story code? Do you mean D 99008? That's at least the one story that struck me when I read your description (please note that it is not drawn by Vicar).
/Tomas ÖBroadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. Click Here
Tommy
Italian names?
Message 50 -
2002-11-04 at 22:14:29
From: <xephyr at cwnet.com>
Hi all, this is my first post in this list, but I'm a member since a month
about. Excuse me for my bad English...
[cut]
There are many Italian members who know these matters better than me, but I
think that I can do a basilar list....
>
> English Name = Italian Name
> --------------------------------
> Mickey Mouse = Michelino Topolino (now just called Topolino)
I have never heard the name "Michelino", but probably it's true. I think it
has never used...
> Minnie Mouse = Minni Topolina (now just called Minni)
It's the same for the surname "Topolina"... I think it has never used, too.
> Donald Duck = Paolino Paperino (now just called Paperino)
The complete name "Paolino Paperino" is often used, e.g. from postmans or
judges... Also in D.U.C.K. Hortense tell Quackmore that "Paolino" is a
stupid name for a son...
> Goofy = Pippo
> Pluto = Pluto
> Daisy = Paperina (I believe she had a first name too, but I don't know it)
I have never heard too of a first Paperina's name...
> Black Pete = Pietro Gambadilegno (usually just called Gambadilegno now)
It's not true... "Pietro Gambadilegno", "Gambadilegno" and "Pietro" are all
used...
> Gyro Gearloose = Archemede Pitagorico (usually just called Archemede now,
> though formerly known as Giro Rotalibera)
The correct form is "Archimede Pitagorico", and name and surname are both
used... The first Archimede's italian name is "Giro Rotalibera", but it also
exists "Giro Girolamo".
> Beagle Boys = Banda Bassoti
> Magica DeSpell = Amelia
If we want to be pedant, there is also an epithet: "Amelia la strega che
ammalia", which signify "Magica De Spell, the charming witch"... But it
isn't a name... ;-)
> Gladstone Gander (Donald's lucky cousin) = Gastone Paperone
Gastone has also haved other names: in a few of old stories his name is
"Bambo" or "Reginaldo Paperotti", but this name appears in only one story, I
think...
> Uncle Scrooge/Scrooge McDuck = Zio Paperone/Paperon de Paperoni
> Huey, Dewey & Louie Duck (Donald's Nephews) = Qui, Quo & Qua
> Fethry Duck (Donald's weird cousin) = Paperoga
> April, May & June Duck (Daisy's Nieces) = Emy, Ely & Evy
> Morty & Ferdie (Mickey's Nephews) = Tip & Tap
> Melody (Minnie's Niece) = Melody
> Clarabelle Cow = Clarabella
Pheraps the surname is "Cow" in italian too. "Clarabella Cow"... I'm not
totally sure of this...
> Horace Horsecollar = Orazio
The complete name is "Orazio Cavezza"
> Madame Clara Cluck = Clara
> Chief O'Hara (Chief of Police) = Commissario Adam Basettoni
"Commissario" means "Chief of Police"... The name is "Adamo Basettoni"
> Grandma "Elviry Coot" Duck = Nonna Papera
Grandma Duck = Nonna Papera
Elviry Coot = Elvira Papera
> Duck Avenger/Super Duck (Donald as superhero) = Paperinik
> Super Goof (Goofy as superhero) = Super Pippo
> Gus Goose (Donald's lazy cousin) = Ciccio
I've heard also the name "Ciccio Oco"... I don't know if it's true...
> Eega Beeva (Mickey's friend from the future) = Eta Beta
> Ellsworth (Goofy's talking minah bird) = Gancio
The name "Gancio" is often accompanied with the epithet "il dritto", which
means "smart", "fox"...
I hope I've been helpful...
Bye
Tommy --- gorthan at hotmail.com ---
?Tell me, mister governor... How does it feel to exit from the story??
PKNA #14 "Carpe Diem"
Hi all, this is my first post in this list, but I'm a member since a month
about. Excuse me for my bad English...
[cut]
There are many Italian members who know these matters better than me, but I
think that I can do a basilar list....
>
> English Name = Italian Name
> --------------------------------
> Mickey Mouse = Michelino Topolino (now just called Topolino)
I have never heard the name "Michelino", but probably it's true. I think it
has never used...
> Minnie Mouse = Minni Topolina (now just called Minni)
It's the same for the surname "Topolina"... I think it has never used, too.
> Donald Duck = Paolino Paperino (now just called Paperino)
The complete name "Paolino Paperino" is often used, e.g. from postmans or
judges... Also in D.U.C.K. Hortense tell Quackmore that "Paolino" is a
stupid name for a son...
> Goofy = Pippo
> Pluto = Pluto
> Daisy = Paperina (I believe she had a first name too, but I don't know it)
I have never heard too of a first Paperina's name...
> Black Pete = Pietro Gambadilegno (usually just called Gambadilegno now)
It's not true... "Pietro Gambadilegno", "Gambadilegno" and "Pietro" are all
used...
> Gyro Gearloose = Archemede Pitagorico (usually just called Archemede now,
> though formerly known as Giro Rotalibera)
The correct form is "Archimede Pitagorico", and name and surname are both
used... The first Archimede's italian name is "Giro Rotalibera", but it also
exists "Giro Girolamo".
> Beagle Boys = Banda Bassoti
> Magica DeSpell = Amelia
If we want to be pedant, there is also an epithet: "Amelia la strega che
ammalia", which signify "Magica De Spell, the charming witch"... But it
isn't a name... ;-)
> Gladstone Gander (Donald's lucky cousin) = Gastone Paperone
Gastone has also haved other names: in a few of old stories his name is
"Bambo" or "Reginaldo Paperotti", but this name appears in only one story, I
think...
> Uncle Scrooge/Scrooge McDuck = Zio Paperone/Paperon de Paperoni
> Huey, Dewey & Louie Duck (Donald's Nephews) = Qui, Quo & Qua
> Fethry Duck (Donald's weird cousin) = Paperoga
> April, May & June Duck (Daisy's Nieces) = Emy, Ely & Evy
> Morty & Ferdie (Mickey's Nephews) = Tip & Tap
> Melody (Minnie's Niece) = Melody
> Clarabelle Cow = Clarabella
Pheraps the surname is "Cow" in italian too. "Clarabella Cow"... I'm not
totally sure of this...
> Horace Horsecollar = Orazio
The complete name is "Orazio Cavezza"
> Madame Clara Cluck = Clara
> Chief O'Hara (Chief of Police) = Commissario Adam Basettoni
"Commissario" means "Chief of Police"... The name is "Adamo Basettoni"
> Grandma "Elviry Coot" Duck = Nonna Papera
Grandma Duck = Nonna Papera
Elviry Coot = Elvira Papera
> Duck Avenger/Super Duck (Donald as superhero) = Paperinik
> Super Goof (Goofy as superhero) = Super Pippo
> Gus Goose (Donald's lazy cousin) = Ciccio
I've heard also the name "Ciccio Oco"... I don't know if it's true...
> Eega Beeva (Mickey's friend from the future) = Eta Beta
> Ellsworth (Goofy's talking minah bird) = Gancio
The name "Gancio" is often accompanied with the epithet "il dritto", which
means "smart", "fox"...
I hope I've been helpful...
Bye
Tommy --- gorthan at hotmail.com ---
?Tell me, mister governor... How does it feel to exit from the story??
PKNA #14 "Carpe Diem"
Søren Krarup Olesen
Thieves or...
Message 51 -
2002-11-04 at 22:17:44
DONALD:
> It is possible because the creator of the work chose to release it to
> the public domain. Anything can be given away free, if the owner
> chooses to do so. (I don't understand why this isn't immediately
> obvious.)
It's not easy to detect whether anything is public domain, if it isn't
explicitly written anywhere. Hence, I assume everything to be so unless
otherwise told.
> Who cares how little value you place on your own work? You still have
> no right to apply your pronouncements to the work of others.
Correct, but why do they put their precious work on the Internet then?
Do I find any of your manuscripts on the Internet, although it would be
so neatly protected by some default law. I guess not. (not to mention
the fact that I'd personally love to read them :-)
>> From the rest, I gather you simply don't believe in copyrights.
>> That's very
> nice, I'm sure,
"Nice"?! Apart from that, yes, you are absolutely right. I believe in
the absolute opposite of copyrighting. The Internet should be IMHO a
huge free public library from which you can search for things and get
the info you need for low-cost or for free. Some "books" are good and
others deal with the same topic but are better etc.
> [...] not simply ignore the law and declare that creators have no
> right to control the distribution of their own work,
And again: What law exactly are we talking about here? If you wish to
control your work, stay out of the Internet. Another possibility is if
you wish to earn money from whatever you do via the net, but that's a
completely different ball game.
> because to attempt doing so would violate some "philosophy behind the
> Internet" (whatever that means).
The term "violate a/some philosophy" is inappropriate, one cannot
"violate a philosophy", it doesn't make sense. I suppose, Don, that you
are too focused on law and order and regulations. As far as the Internet
is concerned it just doesn't work quite like that. Anyways, the
philosophy is simple: Share! I might add a few more long-haired hippie
phrases, but let's keep it simple. If you don't wanna share, bail out.
S?ren
> It is possible because the creator of the work chose to release it to
> the public domain. Anything can be given away free, if the owner
> chooses to do so. (I don't understand why this isn't immediately
> obvious.)
It's not easy to detect whether anything is public domain, if it isn't
explicitly written anywhere. Hence, I assume everything to be so unless
otherwise told.
> Who cares how little value you place on your own work? You still have
> no right to apply your pronouncements to the work of others.
Correct, but why do they put their precious work on the Internet then?
Do I find any of your manuscripts on the Internet, although it would be
so neatly protected by some default law. I guess not. (not to mention
the fact that I'd personally love to read them :-)
>> From the rest, I gather you simply don't believe in copyrights.
>> That's very
> nice, I'm sure,
"Nice"?! Apart from that, yes, you are absolutely right. I believe in
the absolute opposite of copyrighting. The Internet should be IMHO a
huge free public library from which you can search for things and get
the info you need for low-cost or for free. Some "books" are good and
others deal with the same topic but are better etc.
> [...] not simply ignore the law and declare that creators have no
> right to control the distribution of their own work,
And again: What law exactly are we talking about here? If you wish to
control your work, stay out of the Internet. Another possibility is if
you wish to earn money from whatever you do via the net, but that's a
completely different ball game.
> because to attempt doing so would violate some "philosophy behind the
> Internet" (whatever that means).
The term "violate a/some philosophy" is inappropriate, one cannot
"violate a philosophy", it doesn't make sense. I suppose, Don, that you
are too focused on law and order and regulations. As far as the Internet
is concerned it just doesn't work quite like that. Anyways, the
philosophy is simple: Share! I might add a few more long-haired hippie
phrases, but let's keep it simple. If you don't wanna share, bail out.
S?ren
Tomas Österman
How about a little Christmas spirit?
Message 52 -
2002-11-04 at 22:17:49
Nils wrote:
>I seem to remember another great Christmas story which was very much in the Barks spirit. Donald is a forest ranger and tries desperateley to get home for Christmas. I think it was drawn by Vicar. Does anybody know the story code? And I replyed:
>Do you mean D 99008? That's at least the one story that struck me when I read your description (please note that it is not drawn by Vicar).
Argh! D 99008 *is* written by Vicar. Please just ignore the part of my previous message that's put in brackets.
/Tomas Ö
Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. Click Here
>I seem to remember another great Christmas story which was very much in the Barks spirit. Donald is a forest ranger and tries desperateley to get home for Christmas. I think it was drawn by Vicar. Does anybody know the story code? And I replyed:
>Do you mean D 99008? That's at least the one story that struck me when I read your description (please note that it is not drawn by Vicar).
Argh! D 99008 *is* written by Vicar. Please just ignore the part of my previous message that's put in brackets.
/Tomas Ö
Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. Click Here
Sigvald
How about a little Christmas spirit?
Message 53 -
2002-11-04 at 22:38:24
Klartekst <info at klartekst.no> skrev:
>
> I have only been on the list for a few months,
> so I don't know if this has been discussed before:
>
> And can anyone on the list suggest other good non-Barks Xmas stories
> featuring Donlad or $crooge?
AR 109 - Donald Duck: Fir-Tree Fracas, by Don Rosa is a 4 page
classic published in Norway in 1988 and 1999.
Sigvald :-)
>
> I have only been on the list for a few months,
> so I don't know if this has been discussed before:
>
> And can anyone on the list suggest other good non-Barks Xmas stories
> featuring Donlad or $crooge?
AR 109 - Donald Duck: Fir-Tree Fracas, by Don Rosa is a 4 page
classic published in Norway in 1988 and 1999.
Sigvald :-)
Fabio Blanco
Another Greek "outlaw"
Message 54 -
2002-11-04 at 22:46:30
----------
I agree with Vidar, thats crazy. I just block Sigvald messages, sorry, but I
am tired from these virus stuff
FABIO
> Sigvald wrote:
> >That's *not* the problem here. My computer is well protected. The problem
> >is that I can't stop this viruses from filling up my mailbox.
>
> No, the problem is that I have to spend time deleting off-topic mails
> because you keep on talking about viruses.
> Please stop this nonsense, Sigvald. dcml is about DISNEY COMICS, not
> viruses. This debate is going nowhere.
> You are -><- *this* close to my killfilter!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> Vidar Svendsen http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/
>
> "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
> with the possible exception of bad news,
> which obeys its own special laws."
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
I agree with Vidar, thats crazy. I just block Sigvald messages, sorry, but I
am tired from these virus stuff
FABIO
> Sigvald wrote:
> >That's *not* the problem here. My computer is well protected. The problem
> >is that I can't stop this viruses from filling up my mailbox.
>
> No, the problem is that I have to spend time deleting off-topic mails
> because you keep on talking about viruses.
> Please stop this nonsense, Sigvald. dcml is about DISNEY COMICS, not
> viruses. This debate is going nowhere.
> You are -><- *this* close to my killfilter!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> Vidar Svendsen http://home.c2i.net/vidarland/
>
> "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
> with the possible exception of bad news,
> which obeys its own special laws."
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Donald D. Markstein
Thieves or...
Message 55 -
2002-11-04 at 23:27:51
> It's not easy to detect whether anything is public domain, if it isn't
> explicitly written anywhere. Hence, I assume everything to be so unless
> otherwise told.
Law-abiding people assume the opposite. You've made it clear where you stand
on obeying laws, but have yet to explain why the Internet is an exception to
every copyright law in the world.
> And again: What law exactly are we talking about here? If you wish to
> control your work, stay out of the Internet. Another possibility is if
> you wish to earn money from whatever you do via the net, but that's a
> completely different ball game.
Who the HELL do you think you are? Nobody has the right to order me to "stay
out of the Internet", whether or not I choose to make you a free gift of my
work -- and whether or not I meet your arbitrary, vaguely stated, and
fuzzily defined criteria of "earning money".
And when did a desire to earn money from one's work become a necessary
factor in whether or not one is permitted to own it? Most of you "property
rights don't exist" types are scandalized by a desire to make money.
Furthermore, the fact that you have decided unilaterally, for unstated
reasons, that copyright law does not apply to the Internet, does not make it
so. If you truly don't know what laws we're talking about, I suggest you
consult an attorney.
> The Internet should be IMHO a
> huge free public library from which you can search for things and get
> the info you need for low-cost or for free.
If you wish to read the work I make available on the Internet, you may do so
at my site, on my terms, whether my terms involve making money or not. If
you wish to share my work with your friends, you may do so by hyperlink, and
they may read it under the same conditions.
THIS is the freedom you are given by my placing material on the Internet --
NOT the freedom to pick it up and move it to a site of your own, and
circumvent whatever terms I choose to impose.
I do not understand why you have this difficulty in seeing the difference
between reading and stealing.
> The term "violate a/some philosophy" is inappropriate, one cannot
> "violate a philosophy", it doesn't make sense.
"Philosophy behind the Internet" was YOUR expression. Apparently, you've
decided your rather non-mainstream thoughts about ownership form some sort
of code to which we must all adhere, and if we disagree, then as you so
quaintly put it, "If you don't wanna share, bail out."
Again -- who the HELL do you think you are? If I were the one ordering YOU
to "bail out", at least I'd be addressing a professed enemy of the
long-established and well-understood copyright laws that protect me and
every other content provider on the Internet.
> I suppose, Don, that you
> are too focused on law and order and regulations.
And I suppose, Soren, that you are too focused on your apparent delusion
that you own the Internet, and are entitled to define the "philosophy"
behind it, and order people to "stay out of the Internet" or "bail out" if
they don't agree.
> (The Internet is an anarchy that works only because the good guys
> eventually kick out the bad guys)
Not true, apparently. You and others who defend theft are still here.
Quack, Don
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
> explicitly written anywhere. Hence, I assume everything to be so unless
> otherwise told.
Law-abiding people assume the opposite. You've made it clear where you stand
on obeying laws, but have yet to explain why the Internet is an exception to
every copyright law in the world.
> And again: What law exactly are we talking about here? If you wish to
> control your work, stay out of the Internet. Another possibility is if
> you wish to earn money from whatever you do via the net, but that's a
> completely different ball game.
Who the HELL do you think you are? Nobody has the right to order me to "stay
out of the Internet", whether or not I choose to make you a free gift of my
work -- and whether or not I meet your arbitrary, vaguely stated, and
fuzzily defined criteria of "earning money".
And when did a desire to earn money from one's work become a necessary
factor in whether or not one is permitted to own it? Most of you "property
rights don't exist" types are scandalized by a desire to make money.
Furthermore, the fact that you have decided unilaterally, for unstated
reasons, that copyright law does not apply to the Internet, does not make it
so. If you truly don't know what laws we're talking about, I suggest you
consult an attorney.
> The Internet should be IMHO a
> huge free public library from which you can search for things and get
> the info you need for low-cost or for free.
If you wish to read the work I make available on the Internet, you may do so
at my site, on my terms, whether my terms involve making money or not. If
you wish to share my work with your friends, you may do so by hyperlink, and
they may read it under the same conditions.
THIS is the freedom you are given by my placing material on the Internet --
NOT the freedom to pick it up and move it to a site of your own, and
circumvent whatever terms I choose to impose.
I do not understand why you have this difficulty in seeing the difference
between reading and stealing.
> The term "violate a/some philosophy" is inappropriate, one cannot
> "violate a philosophy", it doesn't make sense.
"Philosophy behind the Internet" was YOUR expression. Apparently, you've
decided your rather non-mainstream thoughts about ownership form some sort
of code to which we must all adhere, and if we disagree, then as you so
quaintly put it, "If you don't wanna share, bail out."
Again -- who the HELL do you think you are? If I were the one ordering YOU
to "bail out", at least I'd be addressing a professed enemy of the
long-established and well-understood copyright laws that protect me and
every other content provider on the Internet.
> I suppose, Don, that you
> are too focused on law and order and regulations.
And I suppose, Soren, that you are too focused on your apparent delusion
that you own the Internet, and are entitled to define the "philosophy"
behind it, and order people to "stay out of the Internet" or "bail out" if
they don't agree.
> (The Internet is an anarchy that works only because the good guys
> eventually kick out the bad guys)
Not true, apparently. You and others who defend theft are still here.
Quack, Don
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Armando Botto
Italian names?
Message 56 -
2002-11-05 at 00:14:28
Hi, Rich!
> Is the following list correct? If you know any early or additional names
attributed to the characters, or have corrections to contribute, please
advise:
Let me add some minor notes to Tommy's:
> Beagle Boys = Banda Bassoti
Banda Bassotti. Originally translated as "Banda dei Segugi".
> Uncle Scrooge/Scrooge McDuck = Zio Paperone/Paperon de Paperoni
Paperon de' Paperoni.
> Madame Clara Cluck = Clara
I don't know if she was ever called Clara, but the usual translation is
Chiquita.
> Eega Beeva (Mickey's friend from the future) = Eta Beta
And, as I was discussing recently with... Eta Beta himself ;-), his full
name (Pittisborum Psercy Pystachi Pseter Psersimmon Plummer-Push) was
translated as "Pluigi Psalomone Pcalibano Psallustio Psemiramide". It's
curious to note that the translator didn't understand that the final "Push"
was part of the name; he thought it was a sighing sound, and translated it
as either "pfui" or "psaff"...
Ciao,
Armando
> Is the following list correct? If you know any early or additional names
attributed to the characters, or have corrections to contribute, please
advise:
Let me add some minor notes to Tommy's:
> Beagle Boys = Banda Bassoti
Banda Bassotti. Originally translated as "Banda dei Segugi".
> Uncle Scrooge/Scrooge McDuck = Zio Paperone/Paperon de Paperoni
Paperon de' Paperoni.
> Madame Clara Cluck = Clara
I don't know if she was ever called Clara, but the usual translation is
Chiquita.
> Eega Beeva (Mickey's friend from the future) = Eta Beta
And, as I was discussing recently with... Eta Beta himself ;-), his full
name (Pittisborum Psercy Pystachi Pseter Psersimmon Plummer-Push) was
translated as "Pluigi Psalomone Pcalibano Psallustio Psemiramide". It's
curious to note that the translator didn't understand that the final "Push"
was part of the name; he thought it was a sighing sound, and translated it
as either "pfui" or "psaff"...
Ciao,
Armando
Timo Ronkainen
Thieves or...
Message 57 -
2002-11-05 at 00:16:41
>From: Søren Krarup Olesen <raptus at stofanet.dk>
>Correct, but why do they put their precious work on the Internet then?
Publishing in Internet can fully be compared in printing. You say anyone is
and should be allowed to copy and plagiate texts and other such material
completely freely from internet? Why do anyone print books? They can be
quite easily copied too. And if you print books anyone should be allowed to
copy them freely and print them as their own (sarcasm) :-/
>the absolute opposite of copyrighting. The Internet should be IMHO a
>huge free public library from which you can search for things and
Information is always free. You can go to public library and serch for info.
Copying material (someone's elses articles etc) is totally different matter.
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
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>Correct, but why do they put their precious work on the Internet then?
Publishing in Internet can fully be compared in printing. You say anyone is
and should be allowed to copy and plagiate texts and other such material
completely freely from internet? Why do anyone print books? They can be
quite easily copied too. And if you print books anyone should be allowed to
copy them freely and print them as their own (sarcasm) :-/
>the absolute opposite of copyrighting. The Internet should be IMHO a
>huge free public library from which you can search for things and
Information is always free. You can go to public library and serch for info.
Copying material (someone's elses articles etc) is totally different matter.
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
¨¨ Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
_________________________________________________________________
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http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Theresa Wiegert
Some OT reflections
Message 58 -
2002-11-05 at 00:29:42
hi all!
I have with great interest (actually) been following the discussions. I
guess I find it interesting because people show so much more of themselves
when it gets a bit more intensive like now.
However, I find that I don't like the tone of some of the latest postings
at all. Is it really *that* side of yourselves you want to show? I'm not
directing this to anyone in particular now, I just wanted to say, that I
find the nagging, complaining, almost ordering, and so on, tone of the
mails rather bad. It's not fun to read mails where you almost drive
someone off the list. Is that what you want?
In case you are dissatisfied with the writings of a person, please let it
be known politely, and why not in a personal email?
There can be no nice result of what is being said now. use politeness, and
kindness. We share an interest, and apart from that interest, we are
extremely different. (which is pretty fun!). Accept that!
I don't say much on this list, but I read almost every digest, and find
them fun. And I often wonder what people there are behind the messages.
Some of you I know better than other, but... well, I don't know what I
want to say here. better stop then!
I will just add one more thing: KVACK!
--
/Theresa
I have with great interest (actually) been following the discussions. I
guess I find it interesting because people show so much more of themselves
when it gets a bit more intensive like now.
However, I find that I don't like the tone of some of the latest postings
at all. Is it really *that* side of yourselves you want to show? I'm not
directing this to anyone in particular now, I just wanted to say, that I
find the nagging, complaining, almost ordering, and so on, tone of the
mails rather bad. It's not fun to read mails where you almost drive
someone off the list. Is that what you want?
In case you are dissatisfied with the writings of a person, please let it
be known politely, and why not in a personal email?
There can be no nice result of what is being said now. use politeness, and
kindness. We share an interest, and apart from that interest, we are
extremely different. (which is pretty fun!). Accept that!
I don't say much on this list, but I read almost every digest, and find
them fun. And I often wonder what people there are behind the messages.
Some of you I know better than other, but... well, I don't know what I
want to say here. better stop then!
I will just add one more thing: KVACK!
--
/Theresa
Tommy
Italian names?
Message 59 -
2002-11-05 at 00:37:07
From: "Armando Botto" <armando.botto at libero.it>
>
> Let me add some minor notes to Tommy's:
>
> > Uncle Scrooge/Scrooge McDuck = Zio Paperone/Paperon de Paperoni
>
> Paperon de' Paperoni.
Uh, what a mistake! :-) Joking apart, I didn't see that...
>
> > Madame Clara Cluck = Clara
>
> I don't know if she was ever called Clara, but the usual translation is
> Chiquita.
Ops... Clara Cluck... I didn't know who she is, so I forget her... Now I
know she's Chiquita... :-)
Thanks
Tommy --- gorthan at hotmail.com ---
?Tell me, mister governor... How does it feel to exit from the story??
PKNA #14 "Carpe Diem"
>
> Let me add some minor notes to Tommy's:
>
> > Uncle Scrooge/Scrooge McDuck = Zio Paperone/Paperon de Paperoni
>
> Paperon de' Paperoni.
Uh, what a mistake! :-) Joking apart, I didn't see that...
>
> > Madame Clara Cluck = Clara
>
> I don't know if she was ever called Clara, but the usual translation is
> Chiquita.
Ops... Clara Cluck... I didn't know who she is, so I forget her... Now I
know she's Chiquita... :-)
Thanks
Tommy --- gorthan at hotmail.com ---
?Tell me, mister governor... How does it feel to exit from the story??
PKNA #14 "Carpe Diem"
Simon De Beer
HooZoo
Message 60 -
2002-11-05 at 05:23:01
I know I should have paid attention to earlier postings but is there any way
I can get access to the HooZoo character data. I am having a little trouble
finding it.
Simon de Beer
I can get access to the HooZoo character data. I am having a little trouble
finding it.
Simon de Beer